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Hub beginnings - What I wish I knew before I wrote my first hub.

Updated on May 11, 2017

Before you write your first hub read this article


If you're just writing on HubPages

for pleasure and you honestly don't care if you generate traffic to your hubs this article isn't for you.

If earning a residual income writing

here on HubPages is not your goal then your time reading might be better spent reading another Hub.

If you're self publishing of online articles and Hubs

is just for you and you desire no audience to read your stuff, then click off this hub now.

But if you desire to write high profile,

frequently visited , often returned to, and Hubsense relevant articles that generate money making clicks from your readers - than let's get started.

I've jumped headfirst into HubPages.

I became fully engaged in HubPages from my first sign in however I made some crucial mistakes I wish I didn't right from the beginning. It slowed me down in reaching my first month goals I had set. It also caused me to have to work twice as hard fixing small things that I didn't realize were so important. These fixes have amounted to a large sum of time that I easily could have avoided if I used the advise in this Hub from the get go.

I know you may skimming this article so let me get right to the point and establish a few things:

  • I am a newbie. I'm OK with that. Everyone was at some point.
  • I am just learning. It's been a wonderful experience so far.
  • I made some mistakes right out the gate and have been correcting them.
  • I didn't take the time to learn before I began. I didn't realize I should have.
  • I read more than I write on Hubpages at this stage. If you're new you should too.
  • This hub is from those perspectives.
  • I'm hoping to help you avoid my same mistakes.


Source

STOP! Don't publish yet!


If you just can't wait to start writing
skip to step 3 but don't publish it!

You're excited, you found the HubPages platform, you feel like it's a fit, the freedom and potential sounds like something you've always wanted to do. You are excited to write, you have several things ready to cut and paste and put online. You have some great ideas and your fingers are wiggling ready to begin typing your ideas.
Wait, rewind, slow down, hold on, don't publish anything yet. I'm serious don't publish anything yet.

Top three things to do before you publish.

1) Join the community first. Before you publish start connecting with the community.

  • Find like minded Authors and follow them. Leave them honest fan mail and rate up their work. Look for those that have been here for awhile and have a high hub author score. They are successful for many reasons and have usually written about how they've done it.
  • Read the Hot Hubs and see how the authors write and the unique styles that are successful here.
  • Read the Frequently Asked Questions section and then ask questions you don't see there.
  • Browse the Forum section learning from the discussions there. Join a few of those discussions and get a feel of how quickly the Veteran Hubbers reach out and help.
  • And by all means spend several days reading and watching everything in the Learning Center.

2) Learn about basic SEO if you haven't yet.

  • Pay special attention to choosing the correct title of your hub.
  • Learn about keywords and specifically how to find and use them in your article. This is so important and will dramatically impact the success of your writing.
  • You may benefit from this hub I wrote on the subject :
    "Understanding SEO - the Definitive Beginners Guide". (currently being edited)

3) Wait to publish your hub. Write it, add to it, proof read it, add to it. Sleep on it.

  • Let it rest sometimes up to three days.
  • Re-edit, re-read, run spell check, let it rest.
  • Re-edit again even small typo's, add more keywords and capsules let it rest.
  • While it rests unpublished, the Hubscore actually increases. Usually up to 9 points.
  • Wait, don't hurry let it be your new strategy.

Source


Hub Success

I want you to succeed in your writing here.

Just like most authors on HubPages I understand the importance of quality hubs. Its similar to a neighborhood whose home values are effected by the value of those homes around them. I want to share with you why the above three tips have already improved my traffic and hub quality.

1) The HubPages community.

I have connected with amazing people all around the world. Many who have been on HubPages for 3 to 4 years. I have also received quality input on what I'm doing well and what I need improvement in. These tips have changed the popularity of my hubs almost over night. My hubauthor score increased from a low 62 to a 88 in 3 days. The community you engage in has a noticeable impact on the readability and will also help your hubs in search engines. Do yourself a favor and make the best of this community. Its rich and complex. Utilize this community because friends here mean more quality search results out there.

2) Learning SEO.

Upon the advice of many veteran hubbers including lrohner I went back and corrected some of my hubs. I learned basic keyword elements, and began to rebuild my hubs. I did an experiment with my lowest scoring hub at that time. I changed the title, added keywords, added capsule elements such as video, newsfeed and some quality graphic elements. My hub score went from 50 to a 62 within 32 hours. It's still on the rise. Proof enough for me to spend the next several weeks doing the same thing to each of the hubs I've already written that I want to see do well.

3) Wait to publish your Hub.

The first several hubs I published I did immediately. I did so after a solid proof read and a genuine feeling of satisfaction with the content and the overall feel of the article. What I didn't realize is that if you let your hub sit the hubscore rises. I don't publish my hubs until they reach a score of 59. This takes 2-3 days. This also gives me time to adjust, do more research, add elements and finalize any keyword analytics. Don't hurry this step. Your overall score and quality of hubs will increase rapidly.


Other usful tips to learn


Do's

  • Write about things you love. Research those topics you want to write about. Do it naturally. Don't just be after the higher per click topics. When you are passionate about your subject your readers will be too.
  • Keep your hubs evergreen. Think of topics that will stay relevant longer. Use a different simple URL and get specific with your title. This article is an example of that. Look at the URL and title and see how they differ. This allows me to tweak my title if in the future I need to adjust it to make it current or more relevant. This approach will keep my article from getting stale and drop in rank and visits.
  • Group your hubs together. Group like subject, group like topics, group like themes. This simple step will lead to more clicks and viewer ranking.
  • Use RSS feeds to your hubs. Google loves content that is fresh on webpages. By putting an RSS feed or newsfeed in your Hub the content on your Hub will be fresh even if you don't change anything. If you can't find RSS feeds that match your topic use your own Hub RSS feed.
  • Add a video that's relevant. Keep it short but interesting. Use a high quality video. This will keep readers engaged and interested and will slow down your bounce rate.
  • Use royalty free pictures. Use credits or attribution if required. Stay on the path of integrity.
  • Use HubKarma as many times as it is relevant in each of your hubs. You'll find people using your Hubs in their Hubs soon enough. It really does come back to you.


Do not's

  • Don't put a picture in the top field of your hub. This is a prime adsense section.
  • Don't delete comments that disagree with you. You want discussion and return readers. Even negative comments can add value. Delete vulgar comments and report them.
  • Don't sign up for eBay or Kontera for awhile. Both won't be of any use to you until you are writing and gaining readers on HubPages for awhile. Try it if you want to but you'll have time later when your writing has gained momentum and you can target these tools better.
  • Don't overuse Amazon sales. Pick relevant specific items for your Hubs. If you can't really suggest a product, then don't. It will appear tacky. Your readers aren't dumb.


Conclusion

You have so much more to learn on HubPages. It just doesn't stop. Don't become overwhelmed just begin to shift your thinking for the long-haul. Set some goals and look down the road. If you invest the time now, your Hubs will continue to gain readers and will quite possible be earning you income well into the future.

Leave me a comment and let's continue the conversation.

If you haven't joined HubPages it's free and the community is fantastic.

Happy Hubbing -

-saintodd


I'm a paid author - almost (February 6, 2011)

Made my first 1 cent today. I'm on my way.
Made my first 1 cent today. I'm on my way.

Update on my AdSense earnings (February 18, 2011)

Today  I was pleasantly surprised to find my earnings a cool $10.30
Today I was pleasantly surprised to find my earnings a cool $10.30


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    • FaithDream profile image

      FaithDream 6 years ago from (Midwest) USA

      Well said. Your thoughts are enlightening. Now I should go back & read some of those I read already. :)

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      Thanks FaithDream. I appreciate your affirmation and postings.

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      simeonvisser 6 years ago

      I see you are doing well here on HubPages, saintodd. You have learned a lot in just two weeks time!

      Just one question: why did you decide to move your blogging over to your HubPages site? There are profound differences between a blog and HubPages; the latter is for writing articles rather than blog posts.

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      dalwil 6 years ago from NY

      Great advice. Thanks for sharing your experience with the "newbie" community. I sure did learn a lot from your hub and bookmarked for future references.

      P.S. congratulations on your first penny. I am jealous:0))

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      Monisajda 6 years ago from my heart

      Santodd, at least I don't feel alone, my adsense report looks similar LOL.

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      Monisajda 6 years ago from my heart

      Oh, and yes, I noticed the same thing, if I keep my hub unpublished for a couple of days, its score gets higher.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @simeonvisser - thanks for the post. I read your journey and most of your articles, you have a great gift. Thanks for sharing it. To answer your question: I still blog on several sites, my own about several specific things and as a ghostwriter which I hope to do more of. I joined HubPages to refine my skills, write articles that are specific, informative and SEO driven. My style still incorporates my love of life lesson gleaning but I incorporate that into specific teaching points. I also just for fun write some poetry on HubPages. This is a totally different thing. I haven't figured out how to make that work yet with SEO, but I'm reading about it. Hope that answers your question. If not let me know.

      @dalwil - keep hubbing and learning. It just gets more fun with each new level and challenge. Think long term. We'll get there.

      @Monisajda - thanks for the post and the follow. I love your hub topics and plan on reading more of your stuff. Keep it up!

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      simeonvisser 6 years ago

      @saintodd: Yes, that answers my question. I was just wondering because some people are not aware of the differences between blog posts and content on HubPages - it is not a blog with ads for example - but you come across as well-informed about what HubPages is, that is a good thing!

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      ImChemist 6 years ago

      Welcome to hubpages and thanks for your great hub.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @imchemist - thanks. Glad to connect

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      chunho01 6 years ago from Malaysia

      Nicely written. I did not realize that I did one of the 'Do Not', that is I placed a picture in the top field of my first hub.

      Like your last comment: "I'm a paid author - almost"

      My feedback on this hub, humorous and informative

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @chunho01 - glad it helped. Once I began to notice the little things I missed, it raised my ranking and the adsense seemed to match my articles better. Thanks for the feedback.

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      Cindy Lawson 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands)

      Very good Hub and lots of excellent advice. One rule I do break pretty much all of the time is to put a picture at the top of my hubs, and the Adsense adverts still appear above it regardless. I have to say that to the best of my knowledge this has never been bad for my traffic, and I do receive Adsense payouts every month now. I have no idea if I would be far better off by not doing it though, as I have never tried.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @mistyhorizon - thanks for the input. I haven't been on Hubs long enough to know how much it's impacted your earnings. I noticed a difference in my adsense hits, but I'm still waiting to meet my first payout. Every month will be sweet! Thanks for the encouragement.

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      Chrystal Mahan 6 years ago from Michigan

      This is one of the best newbie articles I have read thus far. I look forward to taking more time to check out more of your hubs.

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      StarCreate 6 years ago from Spain

      Great advice here for a newbie to stumble across, thank you so much! I am finding the advice of real writers on here a genuine education, and actually filling in all the gaps from the learning center :-)

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      Judowolf 6 years ago

      Dear Saintood, Thank you for the informative article, As a newbie it was very helpful. I have a question for you. How long were you on Hubpages before you wrote your first article, Thank you

      Judowolf

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @cmahan - thanks for the post. Good to connect with you. I'll be looking up your Hubs too.

      @StarCreate - this community is the best one I've run across. There is such a genuine heart to help each other and to bring growth in a positive way. It's a huge advantage for us trying to become better writers. Thanks for connecting!

      @Judowolf - I published within 5 minutes of joining! I did so quickly because I didn't really understand the nuances of SEO and online journalism. I've learned a lot, but only scratched the surface. I've been seeing some solid success as far as attracting new traffic. Hope these thoughts helped you too. Thanks for the post.

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      jagandelight 6 years ago from Florida

      thanks for the tips.

      Can you check out one of my hub and give advice, I would appreciate it.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @jagandelight - I posted on your Hubs. Hope it helps. Thanks for reading.

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      ladyjane1 6 years ago from Texas

      Nicely done and to the point. I made so many mistakes when I first started on Hubpages and I wish I had this article back then but somehow I got through it and I did a lot of reading and learned quite a bit. You obviously have learned a lot for being on Hubpages for such a short period of time, but what you say is great advice. Voted up and shared. Cheers.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @LadyJane1 It's been a great community and I'm really enjoying meeting people. The quality of writing that I've found here has been really informative, and the how to be a better hubber articles have really challenged me. Spending time in the Extreme Hub Makeover forum and opening myself up to some healthy critique also helped me. I'm like you, read-read-read. It's all here. Thanks for the vote up and share. I appreciate it. Happy hubbing.

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      1spiritualexhort 6 years ago

      Thank you for your open and honest advice. I'm investing my time as a new Hub participant to study and learn from the experienced writers. Thanks again, for encouraging and informing each of us who desperately need your advice.

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      Becky532 6 years ago

      Thank you SO much for this hub!! As a new hubber I learned a lot from this hub on how to get off to a good start. Your hub is a great reference that I keep going back to. Thanks again and happy writing!

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      Michelle Simtoco 6 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

      I remember how I started out and was so scared of making a mistake. We all learn from them, including me! :)

      Good news! Good news! This hub has been nominated on the Hubnuggets! This way please to read and vote: http://hubpages.com/hubnuggets6/hub/Hubnuggets-in-...

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      LyndaD 6 years ago

      Great hub. I'm new here as well and have a lot to learn. I think keywords are what I am struggling with the most. I see you have helped out others. I'd love for you to swing by my profile and read some of my hubs. I am open to any suggestions. I'll be checking out your hub on SEO as well.

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      Elayne 6 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      You laid it out well for newbies and oldies. I am sure I could go back and improve on the hubs that are not doing so well. Congrats on your nomination, and good luck.

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      graceomalley 6 years ago

      This is very helpful. I am a writer at heart, and like to just write and get it out there. Thanks for the push to research SEO. As far as advice to wait so that hubscore will go up, is that so that readers will be more likely to reader a hub with a better score? Or is the hub in a better position for search engines with a better score?

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      Jefsaid 6 years ago from London, UK

      Excellent hub and advice. I have been guilty of being too hasty. I will be book marking this article.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Becky532 - I'm glad it helped you. Keep reading and keep learning. Thanks for the comment.

      @ripplemaker - learning from our mistakes makes them a little more bearable doesn't it. That is great news about the nomination, thanks for bringing it to my attention. VERY COOL!

      @LyndaD - Don't get too stressed out about the whole process. Give yourself time. There are many wonderful resources here. You just have to keep digging in and learning. It will come trust me. Keep your eyes on the long term, and enjoy the ride. Thanks for asking me - I'll swing by your profile and read some of your hubs and give you a heads up. I also highly recommend "Extreme Hub Makeovers" in the forum section. They helped me greatly.

      @elayne001 - Thanks for stopping by! I'll be looking for your hubs.

      @graceomalley - Hello. Yes to all you said, and it also has caused me to really publish the best hubs I can. It's just like writing anything you're trying to perfect, if you slow down a bit the final product is more more enjoyable to read. Hope that answers it, if not let me know.

      @Jefsaid - thanks for the comment and the bookmark, I appreciate it.

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      Pamela Oglesby 6 years ago from United States

      Congrats on your nomination. I think you're hub had a lot of valid points.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Pamela99 - thanks for the kudos I really appreciate it. Thanks for the visit and the comment. Hope to connect with you more in the future.

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      ernestsweet 6 years ago from Townsville, Australia.

      Thanks for the great content saintodd, I wish I had found it a little earlier;) You have definately given me a lot to think about.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @ernestaweet - I'm glad the info helped. I've found using these tips has really improved the quality of my hubs and the traffic too.

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      amybradley 6 years ago

      We are two of a kind here! I too made all of these same mistakes and even more at first, I'm happy and proud to say that I have learned so much since then and even more here from you as well. Very useful and informative, thanks you for the great advise on waiting a few days before publishing, I wasn't at all aware of this yet.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @amybradley - thanks for the comment. Just FYI recently I was working on a Hub editing, researching and building it for about a week unpublished. The score rose much higher than any other Hub I've used this technique with. I wont tell you the published number but it's now one of my top ranking hubs. It's almost like being rewarded for spending the needed time writing quality posts.

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      Becky 6 years ago from Oklahoma

      Very good advice, thanks for sharing what you've learned at HubPages.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Becky - thanks for the comment. I hope the info was helpful. I'm still learning everyday new and helpful tips. I'm working on a new Hub about it right now.

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      Matt_Anselmi 6 years ago from Gaithersburg, MD

      Wow! This is great- I'm so glad that I read this and am inspired by your fast success!

      Thank you!

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Matt_Anselmi - glad to hear that! It's amazing learning from our mistakes. Sometimes it quicker to learn from others mistakes. Thanks for the comment and the fan mail. Looking forward to reading your Hubs. Good to connect.

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      Money Glitch 6 years ago from Texas

      Great points, I'm bookmarking for the next time a newbie as me questions about getting started. Congrats on being selected as a HubNugget nominee. :)

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Money Glitch. Thanks for the kudos. That means a lot that you'd send this along to those it can help. No greater compliment to me than an experienced Hubber would do that with one of my articles. Good to connect with you.

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      daniademirci 6 years ago

      Thanks for sharing! This gave me a great place to start as I'm making goals for the next month.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @daniademirci - goal setting is HUGE! I'm so glad you caught that. When you set in front of you the destination you are looking to arrive at, you can really dig your teeth into what you need to do to get there. Thanks for the comment and for reading. Keep Hubbing!

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      goodjohnbuck 6 years ago from Ohio

      This is a super helpful post! I'm just getting started on HubPages and am really delighted by some solid advice from a more experienced Hubber! Thanks!

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      ohiogoatgirl 6 years ago

      how very helpful! this newbie thanks you! *thumbs up*

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      tebo 6 years ago from New Zealand

      Thanks for this. I have read it but will re-read and check out your other hubs. You have done well in 4 weeks. I need to spend more time on here. Very encouraging.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @goodjohnbuck - this is such a great community to learn from. I'm glad you read my Hub and took something away from it. I'll look forward to reading what you post.

      @ohiogoatgirl - thanks for the post and the thumbs up. By the way you have one of the most unique pen names I've ever seen.

      @tebo - thanks for the post. It's amazing what response I've received from this Hub. Thanks for reading and be encouraged. It's completely possible to do this, and each day is a day full of learning and growth.

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      thedietview 6 years ago

      thanks for this it was really helpfull

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      BJ Ryan 6 years ago

      Thanks for such a great article. Very encouraging and thought provoking. You also clearly have a unique 'voice' which is something I realise I need to pay more attention to :o)

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      caribqueen 6 years ago

      Quite informative hub. Lots of information. Thanks for guiding us and showing us how to improve our hubs. Knowledge is power and we have to keep at it. Many thanks for being our friend. I am reading and researching all the time. There is so much to gain in the time we allot ourselves to spend on hubpages. Good Luck and keep posting.

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      Gemma Sidney 6 years ago from Co Clare, Ireland

      Thanks for the useful hub. I'm just starting out too, so I'm sure some of those tips will be very useful to me. I've been on HubPages about the same amount of time as you and you've made way more money than me so far! It's not just about the money though right? ;-)

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      crochet48 6 years ago

      Now, THIS is good. I didn't know this before and I've been here for a while. I know lrohner from other sites, so you are getting advice from someone very knowledgeable.

      I'm bookmarking your hub to use for my own future earning strategy.

      Thanks!

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      Ask_DJ_Lyons 6 years ago from Mosheim, Tennessee

      I found this hub extremely useful. Thank you! It's one of those I want to read more than once to absorb all the tips.

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      Erin LeFey 6 years ago

      This is a wonderful and inspiring hub! I've been on hubpages for over a year and like you, started off wrong and had to learn by myself, the hard way. At first I was just writing for myself and wasn't part of a community but now I'm engaged fully and am enjoying the ride so much more. I'm one of the ones that don't make money from my hubs, I'm not really concerned with that, but I read your article anyway and really was motivated by it. I'm doing all the right things, so why not go ahead and profit from it too? Thanks so much for all the great advice, you should be a motivational speaker. Voted you up and useful!

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      Ingenira 6 years ago

      Excellent work, saintodd, despite you are quite new. It really showed that you have read A LOT, and that's the most important step you have taken. I wished I knew what you wrote when I started. It'd have helped me to progress faster. Nevertheless, I was not in a hurry.

      Newbies should really read this hub.

      And I think you deserved the Hubnugget ! :)

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      Jasmine 6 years ago

      Great hub for newbies but also for us who have been here for a while! I completely agree with you on all that you wrote. I always published my hubs immediately after writing them, but yesterday I wrote three and decided to save them unpublished until they reach a higher score.

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      lbidd54 6 years ago

      Wonderful hub.....I wish I had read this when I first started.

      Thanks and best of luck to you!

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      Susan Mills 6 years ago from Indiana

      Congratulations on your hubnugget win! This was an excellent and informative article.

      My hub topics don't generate much clicking, so I'm totally jealous of your $10.30. You obviously have a steep learning curve, thanks for sharing!

      I'm going to check out a few of these ideas and see if I can't break the $5.00 mark!

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      Will Mays 6 years ago from North Kingstown, RI, United States

      Very nice hub on an important topic. Thanks, Saintodd!

      I see you've posted quite a few Hubs already... do you have any tips for attracting Comments? Is this a matter of joining a Community? Writing style? just wondering...

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      Tammy 6 years ago from USA

      Great advice! Thanks for sharing your success here at HP.

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      craftdrawer 6 years ago

      These are some great tips for beginners and experienced Hubbers!

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @thedietview - your welcome, hope it helped.

      @BJ Ryan - Thanks for the post I appreciate it. When we can find our voice, its sometimes hard not to sing.

      @caribqueen - I completely agree with you, what a fantastic community of writers.

      @Gemma Sidney - You're right it isnt just about the money. If it was people would have left a long time ago. Keep writing quality hubs and doing your best to create traffic. You'll see results.

      @Ask_DJ_Lyons - A lot of time went into research before I came up with this information here. I'm glad you find it helpful.

      @Erin Lefey - money can't be are only motivation but I agree it will be nice to get a payout. Keep doing what you're doing because you love to do it. Without that kind of passion all our writing would be flat and see through. Thanks for the vote up. Believe it or not I am an inspirational speaker! Glad it shows in my writing.

      @Ingenira - Thanks for the kind words. I was really excited to win. Pretty cool indeed. Yes - I should have clocked how many hours of reading went into this hub, I'm glad it shows. Good to connect with you.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @vox vocis - I'd love to hear how that is going go for. I have been doing an experiment with a hub I'm writing believe it or not its not finished but is in the mid 60's and holding. Don't want to get greedy but I wonder how high it could go before publishing. Thanks. I'll be looking for your posts.

      @sueroy333 - I recommend you start a niche blog site and create back traffic. Your humor writing would work well. Just a suggestion, I get a lot of traffic to my hubpages via backlinking to niche blog sites I moderate. Might seem like a lot of work but you could create, launch and connect a few of your hubs to it in a weekend. I recommend the blogger.com platform but there are some other really good ones as well. Keep it up! Don't give up! Write, write, write.

      @Clarke Stevens - thanks. Comments seem to happen organically and from my limited experience are usually viral. Just concentrate on the quality of your hubs, continue to dig into the community by posting yourself and it will happen. Search the Hubpages forums or articles and you may found a hub someone wrote on the subject. You may also try asking it as a question in the hubpages tutorial area. Good luck and keep writing.

      @tlpoague - your welcome. Thanks for the comment and for reading.

      @craftdrawer - they helped me out a lot and I've noticed the quality of my hubs and traffic have increased since I've been using these tips. Thanks for commenting.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      Hi all I just posted a new hub on this subject. Its a little different its VIDEO driven. Check it out and let me know what you think. Should I do more VIDEO hubs? Did it help in your learning? Thanks I appreciate your time.

      https://hubpages.com/literature/A-Video-Tutorial-o...

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      Angie Jardine 6 years ago from Cornwall, land of the eternally youthful mind ...

      This is just the most lucid and helpful hub I've read on HP, saintodd. I'm a newbie and there is no doubt I'm floundering so thank you for the insights. Now, to try and remember them all to put them into practice.

      Angie

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      rozwhitephd.com 6 years ago from Kenosha, WI

      I share your sentiment! Overcoming the "bluners" in the beginning is a huge time commitment. This is a definite must read before getting started.

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      Kat 6 years ago

      The title of your hub caught my eye and that's why I read it. You don't explain why the hubscore goes up when you wait to publish. I'm a stickler for proofreading and once I feel all looks good, I want to publish immediately.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @rozwhitephd.com - Thanks for the post. I'm glad you're a life learner too. It's amazing what experience can teach us if we let it.

      @Kat - I've asked around and no one seems to know why this happens. By all means publish when you feel the "itch", writers have to do what they have to do. There is a deep satisfaction in hitting that publish button isn't there?! This article is a collection of my experiences, observations, and methodology that I'm integrating into all my hubs. It seems to be gaining me new and return readers. Use what you can and discard the rest. Thanks for commenting.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Angie Jardine - Thanks for the input. Don't worry or feel like you're floundering. Take it one step at a time. You can do this, just continue to look down the road and think long term. You'll become better at what you do and each little tidbit learned will build your knowledge base and eventually create your unique online voice. Keep it up!

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      Kat 6 years ago

      There is indeed that satisfaction of hitting that publish button - well put!

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      Enlydia Listener 6 years ago from trailer in the country

      I didn't really feel like a newbie...and then I read this article. I realize that in many ways I choose to "go my own way"...and sometimes it is good to follow the rules. Thanks for this info, it has given me insight for today.

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      Article Written By Margaret Minnicks 6 years ago from Richmond, VA

      Well, you learn something every day. I did not know that your hub score rises by just sitting. I have been publishing my hubs as soon as I finish them. I am going to try out this method to see what happens.

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      HPWriter 6 years ago from USA

      I am glad that I read your hub. I am a newbie. These tips will sure helps. Thank you :)

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Enlydia - what a great revelation. I agree a mix of doing our own thing and following the rules in HubPages is the balanced approach, or that's what I do anyway.

      @revmjm - try it out - if you edit and access it over the course of a few days you may be surprised how high the number actually gets.

      @HPWriter - glad this helped. Welcome to HubPages.

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      batzmaru 6 years ago from Malaysia

      Excellent post. I especially like the tip of letting hubs sit and gain score. I learned something new today (Yay!!). Thank you.

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      Kat 6 years ago

      Also thanks for the tip on not putting a pic in the first spot, as it's good for AdSense!

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      Gigi Thibodeau 6 years ago

      This one's great, too! I'm a professional writer, and I've been blogging for two years, but I just joined HubPages two weeks ago. It's a whole new experience for me, and I'm loving the process of learning from other people here as well as from the learning center. Thanks for all the good, solid advice.

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      Barbara Radisavljevic 6 years ago from Templeton, CA

      You taught me a lot I didn't' know. I had no idea hubs could rise in score just sitting. I've had one sitting for a few weeks and it's at 63 now. I didn't leave it sitting for that reason. It just hasn't completely 'jelled" yet. Some hubs come more easily than others, and this one just isn't ready to face the public yet. Others practically write themselves.

      I really like having a picture on top, since I think that helps pull readers in. I had no idea I might be pushing Google away by doing that.

      I really do need to rework some of my earlier Hubs. I'm still trying to define myself and my niches here. I tend to write here what best fits this format rather than Squidoo or my blogs. I don't have much time to write these days, as my web site for my business needs revamping. My goal this year is to try to write at least one Hub or Squidoo lens a week and one post for each of my three blogs a week and to try to add a Zazzle product to my store each day. So far I'm behind because of the web site crisis, but I'd really like to add more Hubs. Ten isn't very many.

      You mentioned that our scores on unpublished hubs can rise before we publish them. What I've been wondering is how they get views before we publish them. My work in progress has had six views. Mine don't count, do they? Just wondering.

      Thanks for sharing the lessons you've learned here. I've been here on and off for over a year now, but still feel like a newbie because I've published so little.

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      CharlesWells 6 years ago from Nashville, TN

      Excellent article and great insights. Looks like you got a great start for only being here a few weeks. I agree with most of the ideas except not putting an image in the first capsule. I do agree it is prime real estate. Therefore put an Amazon module or even better a big affiliate banner or image linked to an affiliate site up there. Get big money for the hits instead of splitting Adsense dimes with Hub Pages.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @batzmaru - I use that one all the time on every hub. Glad it helped

      @Kat - {thumbs up!}

      @Gigi - go for it! You're right its such a unique platform online writing, but I bet you'll do well. Nice hubs. Thanks

      @WannaB Writer - no picture up top is just my personal preference. I make my first text box just big enough to comfortably fit the prime adsense box and then I create my next box with an image in it. Some people do it the opposite way. I'm still experimenting with the results. You aren't pushing Google away just giving them the first spot.

      Sounds like you have some great goals. I set goals too and also adjust them accordingly to my life. I am thinking long term and have a 3 and 5 year plan.

      I've asked around and no one really knows why the score increases. I think its a gift for taking the time to really edit. And yes your views do count, and can change your bounce rate.

      @CharlesWells - Thanks. Good tip about affiliate images etc. There is more than one way to earn an income on Hubs. Well worth checking out. Nice videos by the way.

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      IntegriousProject 6 years ago from Chicago, IL

      Great help. Now I'm just wondering if I can bookmark this hub so I can come back to it later and reread some of those tips....

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Integrious - thanks for the post. Yes you can bookmark it both through your browser or through hubpages. To do it through hubpages there is a drop down box right below the add just beneath my avatar on the upper right side of this article. Hope that helps.

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      James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago

      You give sound advice in this Hub. Well done! It is very good.

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @James - thank you!

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      siddhu333 6 years ago

      sir,i am a new hubber i published 3 hubs out of which for 1 hub i got 10,000 views but google adsense status shows that my account is disabled by google for violation of tos......what should i do now plzzz help me so that i will be carefull next time

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @siddhu333 - violation of TOS can happen for many reasons. I suggest:

      1)You try and contact customer support about the issue

      2)if that doesn't work try reading this useful hub https://hubpages.com/community/Warning-About-Googl... by hubber Jamie Brock. She had a similar experience and this hub walks your through how you may be able to fix it.

      3) if you still have questions try posting your question in a the Hubpages forum area. The answer will probably be there.

      Hope that helps

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      Nicole Taylor 6 years ago from Toronto

      Thank you I was so overwhelmed I was ready to abandon ship before I started. It seems like a lot to learn. I think one of my main concerns is backing up facts. If you know the facts to be true because you have lived it, do you still need to research on line and find more back up. I am a little gun shy of the article I just wrote so thinking maybe submit a poem first. LOL I found your information to be very helpful and you are the first I have made any comment to of any kind. Thanks again. A very newbie to this.:)

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Nicole - don't give up keep going, it keeps getting better! To answer your question: If it's a personal subject and something you lived you probably don't need to back it up. If it's fact based use the rule of cross checking the fact from 3 sources (I personally use 4-6 cross checking resources). Use quality sources before opinion blogs or forums (although those offer great perspective). Relax and enjoy the process. It's well worth the effort to create a quality article. Hope that helps.

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      The LEAP man 6 years ago from Limerick Ireland

      Great hubpage thanks for your pointers extremely helpful. I am getting views and hits but no comments how do I get people talking

      regards

      Graham

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      saintodd 6 years ago from Suffolk, VA

      @Graham - thanks for the comment. I've read several hubs on it, that's always a good place to start. There are some people who really have that side of hubpages down.

      From my perspective, some of my hubs get huge comment threads some don't. The theme I see that attracts huge comment threads is 1)Its usually an informative or teaching hub 2)It's getting huge amount of views compared to the comments left 3)Although I get posts from different users, generally authors on hubpages are the most to comment, at least on my hubs.

      So if you haven't yet, read a hub or two about the subject, make sure you are commenting on others hubs, and try and write hubs that draw people in. For me the most success so far has been when I write informative/educational hubs. My poetry or more personally written hubs really are dead in the water.

      If you're already doing that, then give it some time. It will begin to happen. Remember everything on HubPages has to be worked on with the long term in mind.

      Hope that helped.

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      VivBounty 6 years ago from Canada

      Excellent Hub, saintodd! 2 points glaring at me are the prime Adsense area which never occurred to me and too many Amamzon links to products which I have found out only in the last 24 hours, a hub I wrote back in October has just been tagged for being over promotive. I've since gone through it and put only one link for every 50 words or so as the guidelines say, but I wish I'd known this before I started publishing. Thanks again for a very helpful hub which I have bookmarked for my ongoing learning and improvment.

      Prosperous Blessings,

      VivBounty

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      Kevin 6 years ago from Whistler Canada

      Thanks for the advice. I will try these methods out for my next hub.

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      Write Lady 5 years ago from United States

      Though I signed up on Hubpages more than a year ago I never did anything with it. I decided it was time to get serious about using this great resource, but I was worried about all there is to learn. You broke down the information and explained important tips clearly--without making me feel stupid (as a newbie). Thank you for all the valuable information! Blessings to you~ WriteLady

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      Tams R 5 years ago from Missouri

      Impressive! I know you published this awhile back but it is still relevant for newcomers. Inspiration to continue. Thanks!

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      Mageplasm 5 years ago

      Very insightful. Thanks man!

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      elsiebeth 4 years ago

      Thanks for your hub. I just published my first hub so I need all the advice that I can get. I know Monroe, Washington. I lived in PeEll , Washington for about five years. Have you heard of it? It's even smaller than Monroe. Now for a comment on your hub, it was great. I almost didn't read it though because of the opening remarks about wanting to make money. I thought it wouldn't apply to me. I just want to learn how to write better. Needless to say, I'm not going to turn down money if it happens to come my way either. With that in mind I kept reading and am very, very glad I did. Thank you.

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