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My Frustration With My Hubpages Progress

Updated on July 24, 2012

What Does the Problem Seem to Be?

I decided to write this hub for three reasons. First, I have been frustrated with my own lack of progress, though I have attempted many things to try and improve overall success in this arena. Second, it is hoped that other new hubbers will feel a little less frustrated or inept knowing that it is not a quick process to break in to Hubpages and make quick money, or get the high number of hub views coveted. Finally, it would be nice to have some new advice from expert hubbers and/or others that could lead to greater success.

So where do I stand right now? I joined Hubpages 6, almost 7, months ago. I have 40 Hubs. This will be my 41st hub. My hubber score has stayed in the range of about 85-92 or so, and at the present, my hub scores range from 60-79. The most frustrating number, however, is that my page views are consistently very low, even with new hubs published. My hub that has gotten the most page views ever was published in January and has received 247 views total. My earnings have gone up just slightly, by pennies, each month. I don't seem to be getting any hits on Amazon, though almost all of my hubs have an Amazon box on it with relevant items showcased, and my Google Adwords account does not seem to be working out very well.

So What Have I Tried?

I have tried doing many things to make progress with Hubpages. Here are some examples:

1. I read the tutorials in an attempt to understand Hubpage expectations.
2. I have attempted to write hubs with good content. I have written hubs about many different subjects in an attempt to find subjects that are interesting and have value to others.
3. I have attempted to understand SEO and tried to learn what I could about finding the right key words.
4. I have gone to the forums to read information from others and written my own questions.
5. I read others' hubs, comment, follow others.
6. I have reviewed my hubs, revised, and tuned the titles.
7. I always try to use correct grammar, vocabulary, and punctuation so as to not detract from the writing.
8. I have tried to find websites to submit to for backlinks. I have used the suggestions of others and signed up for accounts with various sites to add my hubs to these directories.

So What Am I Going To Do?

I have really enjoyed writing on Hubpages. This is a great community of writers who for the most part are very supportive of each other and encouraging to each other. I love writing and it has become quite a fun hobby (along with photography) for me. It's a chance to get away from my regular daily activity and create something I can be proud of. Obviously it would be nice to make some money from writing, but the experience is much more valuable. I will continue to write hubs, will continue to learn all I can, and continue to be an active member of this community.

I very much enjoy reading all of the hubs that I get a chance to view. I may not be able to comment much (I try to do all I can), but my Hubtime is limited each day.

I am very thankful for those like Teaches12345, BarbaraKay, billybuc,and a couple of others who are faithful to read and comment. That means a lot and the feedback is invaluable.


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      Lizam1 5 years ago from Victoria BC

      Hi, Wondering how things are with you and just noticed that Nia Fox suggested a follow up. I think that's a great idea. I have to say I felt smug because I was increasing my hits but two weeks ago that drastically reduced! Lesson to self - stay on top of what else is happpening.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Hi Nia, welcome to Hubpages. I never thought about a follow up. I love writing with Hubpages and the people are awesome. It CAN get frustrating when traffic is slow. Yes this article got a lot of attention. I'll have to think about a follow up. Thanks for reading.

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      Nia 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Thanks for the article Triple, I joined a couple days ago and am addicted. I haven't written about anything that wasn't related to romance in ages so I'm using Hubpages to try and get my political voice back as well as delve into other topics of interests. I'm using my website, yahoo group, facebook, twitter and goodreads account so I hope to drive traffic (if for nothing more than to share my many opinions...LOL). It looks like you article has received many views and a lot of feedback which is great... so are planning a follow-up?

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      @vocalcoach-thanks so much. I have gotten lots of great advice and yes, people have really rallied around. that's what I love about hubpages. I have definately learned to write for fun and enjoy the community. ignugent-thanks for stopping by and commenting. I appreciate everyone here.

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      ignugent17 5 years ago

      It is good to know your frustrations and you being honest to your readers. I am so glad to read your hub. I read also the comments and I get some of their points.

      Have a nice day! :-)

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      Audrey Hunt 5 years ago from Idyllwild Ca.

      Hi tripleamom - I'm back again to see how you're doing. You've been given so much good advice and wow - look at all you friends. Let me know how I can help you - I'm reaching out :)

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Thanks Corgerson. I really appreciate the advice and comments. I really do write for the fun of it, but when you look at numbers, it can get frustrating. I totally agree that the people here make Hubpages worth it all.

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      UltimateMovieRankings 5 years ago from Virginia

      An interesting look at your time here at HubPages. I think the more you write the more views you will get. One of the pieces of advice I got when I was starting out was this little nugget...."The hubs you write today will not really start working for you until about a year"....this of course is going with the thinking that your hubs are not current news subjects.

      In my case I do a ton of movie hubs....looking at my top ten view getters right now...7 of the 10 are over a year old.....1 is 8 months old and the last 2 are my most recent ones that I published.

      Hopefully once the views start trickling in the flow will continue to improve with each passing month and each written hub. I have seen my hubs go from 5000 views a month to 10000 views a month to 20000 views a month to my current total of 47000 views a month.

      But ultimately it boils down to having fun on my case I was thrown out of the earnings program a month into the HubPage all my views really do not mean a thing....I continue to participate because of the many great people I have met over the last 20 months.

      So I have my fingers crossed that the last 8 weeks since you wrote this hub have been successful ones and the next 8 weeks will be even better....voted up and interesting and useful.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Thanks T4an- Thats one of the reasons I wrote this. I knew others were feeling like I was. Appreciate the comment and the vote. :)

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      T4an 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario

      Hi TripleAMom,

      You almost sound like my twin. I thought I was reading about myself. Very good hub and voted up again.

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      Rajan Singh Jolly 5 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

      TripleAMom - from the comments by such wonderful writers you must have seen that it takes time to really pull traffic and money. But worry not, keep going at it faithfully.

      Some things that I do are : read, comment and share hubs, do keyword research and include keywords in the title tuning and summary, link to others' hubs, use as many capsules as you can in hubs, interlink hubs on the same topic, share hubs on social networking sites and leave backlinks.

      In due course, traffic and money will improve.

      Wish you all the luck.

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      writtenworks 5 years ago from San Diego, CA

      I don't think Google is looking for anything. They are making sure only real established people and businesses get ranked, as simple as that. For the little guy, or people trying to do stuff for small reasons, I doubt it is going to work to get anywhere with SEO. You have to work with a company, or write a very large amount of articles. As I said before, I think "fun" should be driving this whole thing.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Hey collegedad, nice to hear from you :) I totally agree with writing what you enjoy. I've been trying out different things, but for the most part, different things that I enjoy. Still not completely sure what Google is looking for, but I try. I really haven't gone to check each of my hubs, but they haven't been doing much on Google to date. The advice has been very helpful since writing this hub though. Lots to take in. I'm pretty illiterate when it comes to "marketing" a hub, but I love the writing. Just trying to maximize what I can do here. I've enjoyed yours though. Keep at it!!

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      collegedad 5 years ago from The Upper Peninsula

      I appreciate where you are coming from TripleAMom. I've been on hubpages approximately five months now and am just starting to get the hang of things. Billybuc pegged me on the head when he said you need to find a niche. I enjoy writing about everything and anything, which has taught me that certain areas of categories draw more traffic than others. I still have a few more categories to explore, but I feel that once I settle in the traffic and $$ will increase.

      I will tell you this. When a hub is ranked on the search engines you do get traffic. I have published 52 hubs now and the 7 that I wrote specifically for the search engines provide 70% of my traffic. I'd rather write fun hubs even if they only get 30 views, but sometimes you have to feed Google what it wants.

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      writtenworks 5 years ago from San Diego, CA

      What I have learned fro so much work online is that relationship building really trumps all. It doesn't matter how much SEO you have built if you have no real connections. Communicating with writers and making a good connection is one of the best things you can possible do.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Shampa sadhya-the best part of being a part of this community is the relationships formed and the encouragement to one another. I also feel priviledged to be a writer and am enjoying this forum. Trinity-it has been frustrating to feel I have done what I could and not made progress, but I am going to keep at it and see how it goes. I think it helped to write this hub and feel encouraged by others. I hope as you read the comments written to me, you will feel some encouragement also, because I think a lot of people deal with the same issues. We need to write for fun and let the rest come. Will enjoy checking out your site. John, will enjoy hearing your ideas, but will also enjoy keeping up with your writing as well.

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      John MacNab 5 years ago from the banks of the St. Lawrence

      TripleA: Thanks for the comment. Yes, I am writing for the fun of it, but I may soon have to write due to necessity. If and when I do, I will share any money making ideas re Hubpages. Thanks again.

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      Trinity M 5 years ago

      TrippleAMom I know exactly how you feel! You put in all the hard work and sometimes it feels like you’re trudging through mud. I hope things work out for you and I will keep checking in to see your progress and get some useful tips from you :) Hang in there!

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      Shampa Sadhya 5 years ago from NEW DELHI, INDIA

      Voted up and interesting!

      The best part of your article is that though you expressed your frustration in it but at the end there is a ray of hope with the recognition you received from some HP hubbers. Today, there may be a small number but one day it may turn out to be a huge one. So, why to worry just have patience. I am here for the last 16 months and I wrote only 44 hubs. So, you can well understand that my earning is very meager but still I am bound to stick to it because it has given me the status of a writer. May not be a great one but still... Thus, have patience and Good Luck!

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Made and Ron Hawkins-thanks for reading and commenting. Writtenworks-wow, 100+ hours per week. Amazing. Definately will write from passion and see what happens. Jean-Ann and Ruth, thanks for taking time to write. Elani-Lee-congrats on some that are doing well. Sweetie Pie-I tried a blog before and it was hacked. Think I will try it again. Bill suggested the same thing. Alaxia-will read the hub you posted. Not sure what you mean by buddy up, but I'm open. John McNab-thanks for the comments. Would love to find an article on Google that high. Yeah, I understand not making much, but I really am working on writing for the fun of it. Sounds like you're doing the same thing.

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      John MacNab 5 years ago from the banks of the St. Lawrence

      TripleA: Next month, I will have been writing on Hubpages for two years. So far I've only written 54 articles and have 74 followers ( most of whom I suspect become non-followers after a few weeks). This month 25/07/2012, I have made $3.60 - really heady stuff.

      The reason why I haven't made any more is because I don't work hard enough at it. I only write when I find something interesting to write about - interesting to me, that is.

      Still, I get a boost out of entering a subject on Google and finding my article number two to three. The hub I've had most views of is the one about recognizing blind spots, but if I remember correctly it has only had one or two comments.

      p.s. TripleA - I have never seen a Hub with this many comments before - keep up the good work and remember us all when you become a millionaire.

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      Cara Alex 5 years ago from Somewhere in the United Kingdom

      I think we are thinking along the same lines with Hub Pages -

      Do you want to 'buddy up'?

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      SweetiePie 5 years ago from Southern California, USA

      One of the best things you can do is forget the hubscore and write for you, which will attract page views. Also, honestly it is harder now to put up a hub and get a large amount of traffic than it was in 2008-2010. You still can do it, but it takes more work, etc. I also recommend branching out and writing on your own blogs and other sites. I have about 12 blogs I update from time to time, Examiner, and Hubpages, and having a variety of things keeps you inspired, and gives you different opportunities to put yourself out there traffic wise.

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      Elani-Lee 5 years ago from Los Angeles

      Thanks for sharing. I have the same problem with most of my Hubs. However, I do have a few that get lots of traffic. The problem is that I"m not really sure what I did to get so much traffic on those few, or how to expand that to the others. Keep at it though, we will eventually figure it out!

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      Jenn-Anne 5 years ago

      What an open and honest hub! It sounds like your experience is fairly typical. I am pretty new to all this myself but I've decided not to spend lots of time and emotional energy worrying about hubscores or seo or tweeting, etc. For me right now it is just about writing. Maybe the rest of those things will come in time or maybe not. Would I love to earn some extra money here? Sure. But that isn't a priority. Hang in there and best of luck to you!

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      Ruth Pieterse 5 years ago

      Such an interesting hub that really goes to the heart of what we are trying to do here.

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      writtenworks 5 years ago from San Diego, CA

      TripleAMom, great article. Unfortunately for yourself, as well as myself and so many thousands of others out there, you have been fed a lie and scammed into believing in topics such as "SEO" and "backlinking" and "good content." The truth is that these issues are for the most part irrelevant, you could SEO a page optimally and years and years could go by and you won't see any results anyways. The same with backlinks. Unfortunately, if you are going to do this, you are going to have to do it because you love it, not for financial gain. I have created my own revenue sharing website,, and I have put an incredible amount of time and money into the site. Unfortunately, however, no matter what I do, getting sign ups is very difficult, and so has getting search engine traffic.

      It is mind boggling to me the amount of false information going around on the internet just to make a few bucks selling you a book or a system, or some monthly thing you pay for.

      I created my site from my passions and beliefs, and I worked 100+ hour weeks on the code and design to offer the highest and most valuable site I possibly could to website visitors including authors. All this being the case, Google doesn't seem to give a damn :-\

      Google has made it extremely difficult to get traffic now. It could take you years to make progress in this area. If you write because you love it, and just keep doing it, you hopefully could increase your income over time a small amount.

      This is just my two cents from 100+ hour weeks, and way more effort than I even want to remember putting into all of this.

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      Ron Hawkster 5 years ago from United States of America

      One other suggestion: If you check your traffic sources (under my account) and then look at the numbers for each domain, and look at the totals, it should give you a good idea for which one is providing your highest source of traffic. If some of them are providing more of a traffic it gives you an idea what is already working, whether you can push that angle more, and whether you should spend some resources to bolster the ones that aren't providing enough traffic.

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      Madeleine Salin 5 years ago from Finland

      Thanks to billybuc I was sent here. I can really relate to this hub. You probably do most things right. I'm sure you'll have more visitors and comments since you are in a few groups on facebook with other hubbers. I know billybuc does all he can to support you and he has a bunch of friends who do the same. Good luck and keep writing! :)

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Lizam1-Thanks for writing. Much of what I have been hearing so far is to use pinterest, hubpages, twitter, and others such as that to post your links to hubs. Read and comment on others hubs and follow them. Keyword searches are important. If you message me your email address, I will send you over some of the emails I've gotten from some seasoned hubbers. I'll also make sure to follow you.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Sweetsusieg, thanks for the advice and the comments. I have been reluctant to commit to the 30 day challenge just due to other commitments, but I write as often as I can. I will be going on vacation next week and hope to have time to write more. Look forward to it. I am enjoying getting to know so many more people through this hub and will have quite the time reading hubs by everyone!! Looking forward to that too though. :)

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      Lizam1 5 years ago from Victoria BC

      Hello . I have just found you and I like this hub. I too am at the frustration stage - so if any of the tips you received helped and you have time I would appreciate any suggestions. Best wishes and congratulations on your quality hubs! Looks like we joined around the same time.

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      Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan

      Being new can be frustrating in itself! You are doing all of the right things, keeping up putting your Hubs out there to read is good! Using social sights such as facebook, twitter and Pinterest will help too! Here is something you may not have thought about or if you have, have been a little hesitant to try it. 30 Hubs in 30 Days. Write at least 1 Hub per day for the first 30 days then promote them the next 30. You may not get the desired traffic right away, but it will also keep you so busy writing you won't worry too much about traffic. There are also 'groups' on facebook that tweet each other's Hubs, try to find one of those to join.

      I will say it looks as though this Hub here may help out a lot!

      Best of Luck to you!

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      Mark G Weller 5 years ago from Lake Charles, LA.

      I too have those frustrations, I have written on HP for almost a year and a half and still have not gotten the first $50.00 payout. I get told how good my writing is by many many friends here and I appreciate that, but I am poor and need to create an income somehow. Hang in there Wendy, we both will get there sooner or later.

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      Audrey Hunt 5 years ago from Idyllwild Ca.

      Very glad to meet you here on hubpages. You've made a good choice. And just look at all the good advice you've gleaned from these "cream-of-the-crop" hubbers. It's all been said and the only thing I will add is to enjoy the journey and continue writing. I've been here just over 2 years and couldn't be happier. My hubscore used to worry me a little, but I'm over that:)

      I will make sure to follow you , rate your hubs and share them. And here's a big hub-hug to make you feel better. Voted up and will share!

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      Melanie Shebel 5 years ago from Midwest USA

      Hang in there! I've found that the greatest help is to use titles from the Weekly Topic Inspiration. Those are really keyword friendly and after writing a bunch of those and studying your hub stats, you start to really get the keyword stuff. (This is similar to how it happened for me, although, it wasn't on HubPages... it was my own personal blog... just studying stats.)

      Let me know if you need anything. We're all here for you. :)

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Stayingalivemoma-that's one of the reasons I wrote this. I know others can identify. I know that I'm writing what I enjoy, so the practice is priceless. The money would be nice though. Carlysullens-Thanks for writing. Welcome. Some people have written hubs that have taken off, but it often takes a while to get going. I am really technologically illiterate, so it has taken me a while to learn all of the keyword stuff, SEO backlinks, etc. I'm still learning. For some this might not talk so long. Will enjoy getting to know you and your writing. Will follow.

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      Terrye Toombs 5 years ago from Somewhere between Heaven and Hell without a road map.

      I, too, feel your pain, triple, as billybuc will attest to (I whine to him daily!). :) I've decided to look at it as 'practice.' Hope you start to find success and I agree, baby steps.

      I hear that taking the 30 hubs in 30 days challenge has help some folks meet their goals. Just a thought.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Thank you everyone for all of your comments and suggestions. I am reading and taking them all to heart. I really do enjoy the writing aspect, and having this many comments giving advice and support shows how awesome this community is. Still learning to research keywords etc.

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      CarlySullens 5 years ago from St. Louis, Missouri

      Nice to meet you. I am a new hubber and I find this hub helpful to me. Not that it will detour me away from writing but just bringing the reality to what can be expected in what time frame.

      You seem to have a good number of people here, patting you on the back and cheering you on. Hang in there. I look forward to reading your hubs and getting to know you more.

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      Valerie Washington 5 years ago from Tempe, Arizona

      I can really identify with your frustration. I have been on HubPages for 11 months now and am just now nearing 10,000 views. I have yet to cash out $50. I am only at about $31 as of today, but I love to write though and just the fact that almost 10,000 people have read what I've written makes me feel good. Keep up the good work!

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      Jeff Gamble 5 years ago from Denton, Texas

      Wendy keep at it. It can be super frustrating at times, not knowing if you are doing the right things to have your articles produce revenue. I know you are writing to write and not to cash in, so I'm sure you'll stick with it. Just keep swimming :-)

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      Ron Hawkster 5 years ago from United States of America

      I noticed you mentioned you go to forums to read and ask questions. I didn't see a note about promoting your hubs there. Several people have correctly noted that while writing high quality content is one part of the deal, the other part is promoting their work. The trick then becomes to find forums that suit what you like to write about, and to consistently promote your work in those forums.

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      moonlake 5 years ago from America

      I thought I was following you but found I wasn't so now I am. You have very good hubs it will just take awhile. It's not easy to come up to the top and I've been here four years and still don't make much money. I think when hubbers have tons of followers and have lots of hubs that's the ones that make the money. If your good enough to knock out hubs everyday than maybe the money will come in. I don't really know the answer to all of it. I wish you luck and don't give up.

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      kelleyward 5 years ago

      HubPages can be so up and down. I hope you find what you are looking for here. I hope the best for you! Kelley

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      Randy Godwin 5 years ago from Southern Georgia

      Sorry, but HubPages is simply a ghost of its former self. Many of the former greats have fled for greener pastures. I wish I could say writing quality content would pay off here eventually. I wish I could. Thing have been heading downhill here for a year and a half now with no end in sight. I hope it will get better but with the way the site is being operated now i have little hope this will happen. But enjoy your writing, this is mostly what you will get from it here. Sorry!

      I have one hub with almost 70,000 views and several more around 50,000 views, but they got them before the great crash a while back. Just so you know how it "used to be".

      I only write fiction here now to get a few critiques on it before moving it elsewhere. It' good for this if nothing else.


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      Sherry Hewins 5 years ago from Sierra Foothills, CA

      I really liked your hubs on email hoaxes and scams and frauds. It seems like they would be good useful and searchable topics too. I've been here 7 months and am working on my 50th hub. I really do find that hubs with a practical component like the how to articles and product reviews do the best google-wise, I think they do better if they're a little bit fun too. I'm no great success story, not making a ton of money or anything, but I do have a few hubs with close to 2000 views, and I'm seeing a positive direction with the pennies, so I hope my advice is helpful. Good luck to you.

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      Poohgranma 5 years ago from On the edge

      ". I will continue to write hubs, will continue to learn all I can, and continue to be an active member of this community." So there you go, you have your answer. It takes time and Hub Scores are one of the largest mysteries in the world... Mine is down to 90, I think, but it's my own fault for being busy elsewhere. You'll get there!

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      Janine Huldie 5 years ago from New York, New York

      I am relatively new here, but can sympatheize with your frustrations. Just want to say I hope you don't give up, because I just took a glance at some of your other articles and you really are an excellent writer.

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      John Sarkis 5 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

      ...give it time as it takes quite a while before your start seeing results.

      Great hub - heartfelt!


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      Richard Ricky Hale 5 years ago from West Virginia

      Triple A Mom, glad you wrote this. If you are in it to make some cash, "as most of us are", you need to try and research useful articles. How to make paint, how to improve your gas mileage, how to make a kite, ect. Money articles and health are two top topics, as well as the how to articles. You have to get your keywords right so your articles rank high on Google. If the search engine can't find your article, neither will readers. Easier said then done, but it is very possible. Have you used your stat display to check for key words. Sharing articles on Facebook and Twitter go a long way as well. My best advice, write a useful series. For example, "only example", articles on classic cars. You can write on several classic cars, one per article. Once you have wrote 5, you can begin to link them together. Start a blogsite and right associated articles, then link them to Hubpages. I find it best when I write articles on a variety of subjects. Give it time to hit the search engines, usually takes a month or so to rank after a hub is published. Say you write on 10 subjects, see which one does best and write more on that article. I know it is tough and easier said then done, but you can do it. Your a great writer, you just need to find your traffic. If you have any questions about this, I will help you the best I can. With all due respect, Ricky.

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      WillStarr 5 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      I have found that having an interest in the work of others, and commenting on it has both improved my own work and attracted attention to what I write. If I comment on the fine work of others, they in turn want to know what an old man like me has to offer.

      I devote at least an hour a day (usually more), commenting on the great work I find here on HubPages.

      Good luck!

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      Stacy Harris 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

      My opinion... stop stressing about the money aspect. You answered your question right there, you realize that it takes time. I have been here for almost a full two years and it has just been very recent that I have noticed that I am making any thing other than pennies. Now - the truth is, while I would love to make millions, I hate the SEO stuff and backlinking... you know - the work of it. So enjoy the writing and just give it time. Let the stuff stew and be active (or as active as you can) in the community. If you read a hub - make sure you leave a comment. This gets your name out. But otherwise, keep doing what you are doing. But more imporantly - build a name for yourself. You have time. There is no deadline. That means it will come in time. After all, I have been around for awhile and I am just starting to see things starting to come in. But then again, I have some time behind me and well over 200 hubs written. Makes a difference! Good luck and just enjoy the process!

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      Tammy 5 years ago from North Carolina

      Hi TripleAMom,

      I am sorry for your frustration. The hubs of yours that I have read have been really good. If you would like feedback, suggestions, or help with SEO let me know and I will be happy to email you. Hang in there and don't give up if writing is what you want to do.

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      Linda Bilyeu 5 years ago from Orlando, FL

      Hi! I'm glad Deborah shared this on Facebook :)

      HP takes patience and like Julie said baby could be frustrating, but think of all the fun you are having in the meanwhile! :)

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      Deborah Brooks Langford 5 years ago from Brownsville,TX

      I am so glad that billy has shared this on Facebook.. I understand your pain. I will try and help you I will start sharing..

      hugs and blessings


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      Candie V 5 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

      Ok.. one thing at a time. I've been here for 3 years. Most people (unless they write tech stuff) don't start earning for at least a year. Takes Google a bit to know you. Hub scores go up and down. Don't look at them as your babies. They have a life of their own. I have some that were consistantly in the high 70s to 80s and now hover around 50-60. No worries. Used to be that anything over 75 was considered 'high good', but my overall hub score has rarely been over 69.. now it's 73 - no understanding that at all.

      When I joined I was lucky to be adopted by some of the then-greats here and they gave me this same advice.. so take heart, write from the heart. You'll find your groove. One piece of advice I was given was to have an identity for different types of writing.. one for recipes one for tech etc. I have 3 I write under, but Candie V does the best for what I've done to date. I shall follow you and see what I see - and send you notes. Maybe they'll help?

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      Dianna Mendez 5 years ago

      Hi! I am there with you in the low hits. It takes time and consistent building of a style or niche to really draw hits or money. I don't expect to reach my goal for at least another year. I will also take a look at your hubs and give you some ideas. Hang in there.

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      Michelle Liew 5 years ago from Singapore

      Apologies, Triple Mom! I thought it was BIll who wrote this as he's shared it! The comment is definitely for you!

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      Michelle Liew 5 years ago from Singapore

      Hi Bill, yes. We all go through trying what the whole notion of SEO is...freelance writing is now and will never be the same with the presence of high technology. It causes some frustration, especially when writing poetry, say a haiku for example. We cannot have titles that are too long for haikus and poems or they lose their effect. Yet, it's hard when trying to manage SEO! Good points. Thanks for writing!

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Rolly--appreciate the support a lot. I really like the writing and love the support from Hubpages. Couldn't find a better writing community.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Julie DeNeen, $1 per day would be great. I could live with that. Thanks for commenting and any suggestions would be really appreciated. I think others reading this would benefit as well.

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      Rolly A Chabot 5 years ago from Alberta Canada

      Keep at it Triple... You are doing a great job... Bill is so right, find something you are passionate about and direct it to the audience you are looking for.

      The door is open here as well should I be able to help... Hugs

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      Blurter of Indiscretions 5 years ago from Clinton CT

      Hi there! I blogged for years with very little traffic (not on HP) so I know the frustration. I will take a bit to look over your hubs and see if there is any advice I can give. It sounds like you are doing all you can! For me, it was about lowering my expectations of what I would earn. My goal right now is to consistently make $1.00 a day...just to give you an idea! It is all about baby steps....Hang in there!

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Hey Bill, tried to email and it returned with a technical failure. Checked and had the right email. I do write for the writing, and I guess success is when I feel I have written something I feel good about. But many of the articles I write I also want to get into the hands of others. Particularly ones with a mental health component. That is what I do and what I am most passionate about.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I hope you do email me; I think I can help you out. The other thing to ask yourself is why do you write? If the writing itself is your goal then how do you measure success? If money is the goal, or views, then we can increase those for you within a month.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      Hey Bill, always can count on you to respond. Thanks. Will definately send an email. I did want to write this so others will have an opportunity to see they're not alone. Not everyone gets off to a huge leap all at once. I'm willing to keep writing, having fun, and seeing where it will lead.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hey you!

      Well, I love that you are being honest and expressing your frustration. I doubt seriously if you are alone in the feelings you mentioned in this hub. One thing I might mention is that looking back over your hubs I am uncertain what your niche is. I know you are a very good writer but I have found establishing a very clear niche helps with views. Find a topic that you are comfortable with and then keep hammering at it.

      I have several other suggestions but I would rather give them to you in a private arena. Why don't you email me at and I will share them with you.



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