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The Writer's Workshop: Six Months On A Writer's Site

Updated on October 4, 2012
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I’m into reflections in a big way. It seems to me that there is no better way to learn than to reflect on the past, pick up some lessons and then move on. So that’s what I’m going to do with this Hub. I’ve put in a fair amount of time now, six months to be exact, and I’ve picked up a few observations along the way.

I’m not going to bore you with statistics from my first six months. I’m not really into statistics all that much for the simple reason that I write on HubPages to improve my craft. The money I make on HubPages is just enough to keep me in ice cream bars for a month, so obviously I’m not here to get rich. I have a better chance of being left a million bucks by Bill Gates than I do of getting rich from writing Hubs.

So what follows is a series of observations gathered from my first 180 days. I’m sure I’ll have more observations after the next 180 and yes, there will be a next 180. You aren’t getting rid of me that easy!

If you get anything of value from these then great; if you find no value you can still print this Hub and use it as liner for the bird cage, or use it as toilet paper instead of the next Land’s End catalog.

Shall we begin?

HUBBER SCORE

I didn’t understand the Hubber score when I started and I still don’t today. I actually had a score of 100 for two days; today it is 90 and I swear on a stack of Bibles, I have no idea why it has changed. In fact, the 100 came after about a month on this site when I knew next to nothing. Now that I’m reasonably aware of the goings on at HubPages and I have some sort of experience, my score has dropped ten percent. In other words, I have been rewarded for longevity and knowledge with a decrease in my score. Thank God my grades in college weren’t determined that way or I would have never graduated.

Another way to look at it is that HubPages is a great forum for leveling the playing field in life. None of us liked those little goodie-two-shoes in school who were the teacher’s pet and who did everything perfectly. At HubPages those little over-achievers are kicked in the behind and taught what it felt like for the rest of us in school. Go ahead and try to be perfect, Miss Priss! You’ll get what’s coming to you in spades!

PHANTOM FOLLOWERS

As I write this I have 803 followers. I can tell you with all certainty that a large percentage of them have never left a comment on one of my hubs, or at best they left one comment on one hub. I believe, and without a doubt this is a subjective belief, that there are a lot of Hubbers who follow people just so they can rack up their own followers. The question that has to be asked is why do they do that?

It’s kind of like some kids I knew growing up who had all of their awards on their bedroom dresser. You know, the Mr. Congeniality Award and the Miss Kiss Up Award. They had very little value but they sure made those kids feel good. Melt them down and you might get 50 cents, enough for a couple bottles of pop, but that was about it as far as value.

IF YOU DON’T MIND I’LL JUST BORROW THAT IDEA OF YOURS

Have you had this happen to you? You finish writing what you believe to be a great Hub; it gets a lot of views and a substantial number of comments, and then within the week one of your followers writes a Hub that is substantially the same thing as what you wrote. Um, dude, that looks a lot like mine! No way, man, that was my idea….I mean look, I used ten more periods than you did and twenty more commas. No way is mine like yours!

Sigh!

ACCOLADES

Melt them down and go buy two bottles of pop! I mean come on! They look pretty I guess but I’m not sure what value they have. I’ve got ten of the little buggers and before you bow in my direction let me tell you I have no idea what four of them mean. They are basically the Mr. Congeniality Award all over again, except that I never won that award when I was in school. How could I? Sister Mary Attila hated my guts!

Hey, if you are into little round circles with numbers inside of them, then go for it! I know a couple Hubbers who are great with crafts. They might be able to help you make those accolades into craft items and then you could put them on your bedroom dresser right next to the Miss Hottie Award that was voted on by the football team.

HUB SCORE

Again, no clue! Currently I have one Hub that has a score of 97 and it has 123 reads. Down the list I have another with a score of 91 and it has 2,205 reads. It would take the FBI, the CIA and a team of mathematicians from MIT to figure out what makes a Hub score.

I have this picture in my mind of the HubPages Administration, sitting in their offices, throwing darts at a big dart board. On the board are numbers ranging from 46-100 and whatever number they hit is your Hub score for that day. That explanation makes as much sense as any I have heard so far.

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

There was a Hubber recently who was doing a lot of spamming; I have to assume it was all an attempt to garner followers and somehow raise her score and earnings. Unfortunately, it didn’t take long for that little over-achiever to be found out by her fellow Hubbers, who all started un-friending her. I’m a big believer in Karma and that young lady got a firsthand taste of Karma at HubPages.

Genuine people attract genuine people. Phonies do not last too long on any forum and HubPages is no different. If you are making a genuine and honest effort to follow others then others will follow you. If you are leaving meaningful comments then you will receive the same. If you are writing quality Hubs then your following will grow. If you are an active part of the HubPages community then that community will embrace you. They will share your work and they will recommend you to others.

Phonies need not apply. We will find you, we will hunt you down, and we will ignore you just like we ignored the teacher’s pet on the playground.

RUDE AND OBNOXIOUS

We have all had them, right? The chosen few who feel it is their duty to let you know what you did wrong, or feel it is their God-given right to shout your opinions down and teach you the error of your ways. They are few in number but they are determined to make their presence known.

Listen, I have no problem with someone who disagrees with me. Feel free to drop me a note via email and I’ll discuss all of your points with you. Feel free to invite me onto a related forum and we can debate until the cows come home. However, if you feel that my comment section is your own personal soap box, I will delete you so fast it will make your inflated head spin. Of course, then you can shout about personal freedoms and how your freedom of speech is being taken away from you. Please….get a life! I like to think of my site as a benevolent monarchy. I treat people with respect and compassion, and I expect the same. If you don’t like those rules then hit the road and don’t let my benevolent door hit you in the butt on the way out.

LEARN TO WRITE IF YOU WANT TO IMPROVE AS A WRITER

Maybe my teaching background is overpowering my better sense, but too bad. Good grammar is mandatory if you are to advance your craft as a writer. A good writer’s voice, and I’m talking about your own, is necessary if you are to advance your craft as a writer. Quality and original material are necessary if you are to advance your craft as a writer. All the bells and whistles are worthless if you can’t write. You may be great at designing a visually-pleasing Hub but if the writing sucks the writing sucks! How’s that for blunt?

SO MUCH MORE; UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN

And we will meet again if you are an active member of this community. I’m planning on staying here and I hope you will join me.

As I stated before, HubPages is a platform for me to improve my craft; having said that, I have received much more on this journey. I have been lucky enough to make some very dear friends in six months, dear friends who I would love to meet in person one day. They are my kindred spirits, my soul mates of writing, and I will always be grateful for their following and friendship. Numbers and accolades mean very little to me but those friendships….WOW….they mean everything!

2012 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

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      mariexotoni 4 years ago

      Enjoyed reading this :) voted up

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Marie, thank you!

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      Dr Pooja 4 years ago

      In simple words your observations are so true and you teach so much by writing that I am sure you must be an adorable teacher. Hat's off to you .

      Voted up and shared!

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      Blurter of Indiscretions 4 years ago from Clinton CT

      Don't let your butt get hit by the benevolent door...ha! My door isn't as nice as yours :) I could learn from you!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dr. Pooja, thank you so much; I'm not sure how adorable I am :) but I did love teaching.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Julie, that made me laugh! Thank you my friend and Happy 4th of July to you and yours.

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      ExoticHippieQueen 4 years ago

      You made me laugh all the way through and so many truths that I'm sure Hubbers think about but don't verbalize (or write). Everything you said, especially about being genuine is right on. I don't get the scores either. Mine just dropped into the 80's for the first time since I joined, probably because I hadn't published anything in a while. But, as you say, who knows? Unfortunately, writing things that must be previously unpublished to send out to try to get published while trying to also create new hubs here is a difficult task, that is, if you want to have a life and get anything done in addition! Hubpages doesn't care about my issue, though! Great hub, Bill!

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      Ghaelach 4 years ago

      Morning Billy.

      An Enjoyable read and hears to more accolades and success.

      LOL Ghaelach

      PS: Have an enjoyable 4th

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      Terrye Toombs 4 years ago from Somewhere between Heaven and Hell without a road map.

      Absolutely beautiful and well put. Loved every word of it...hey, wait...you were talking about me! I'm sorry I borrowed all of your ideas and I can't even spell wet paper bag! :) VUMS!

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      Katheryn 4 years ago from United States

      Billybuc - I know I can always count on you to get my first chuckle of the morning. All those ice cream bars are baaaahd for you; better switch to broccoli spears! As for the mysterious hub scores; perhaps they use the same methods that Google uses for their algorithms. Happy 4th to all.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Exotic, it is a busy life we writers have, isn't it? There are days I wonder if I have lost my sanity completely. Who am I writing to? who is reading this dribble? is there anyone out there? LOL Thanks my friend.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ghaelach, thank you so much; if I get any more accolades I'll give them to you as a gift. :)

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hey Sis, any plans for a party today with that cowboy! YeeHaw! Ride 'em girl.

      Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Travel, thank you for the visit and I'm very happy I gave you a chuckle this morning. Have a wonderful 4th of July (if you live in the U.S. of course)

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      poojasd7 4 years ago from India

      nice ranting ;)

      on a serious note, enjoyed your writing as usual...very lucid it is.

      being a new hubber I got to know a few things here.. thanks for sharing your random thoughts :-)

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks, Poojasd! Nothing like a good rant now and then.

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      Peter V 4 years ago from At the Beach in Florida

      It was great waking up and reading this! Gave me a smile. Thanks, and nice work for only being on here 6months!

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      beaddve1800 4 years ago from Toronto

      I have not yet at my six months on HubPages, and I have not had the feeling. Yet, I am scared of signing up the AdSense because I heard Google is very tight-up to users outside US.

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      poojasd7 4 years ago from India

      :-) can understand it.

      anyways, call me Pooja.

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      Jackie Lynnley 4 years ago from The Beautiful South

      Wow, I have been here over three years, if not in this name (working pretty hard at times) and I have never seen 100, in fact 97 is as high as I have seen.

      You cover a lot of ground here!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Internpete, thank you very much; glad I could give you a smile.

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      Paula 4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      bill...In the words of the great philosopher, Arthur Fonzarelli, a.k.a "Fonzie"........."Yo, Dude!.....you tell 'em!!" I like your style.

      Don't you just hate it when you get a song STUCK in your head and all day long.....over and over.....you bust out in musical splendor.?......."Hit the road, Jack, and don't you come back, no more, no more...hit the road, Jack and don't ya come back no more!"

      How many times must I tell you, bro.......ya gotta watch out when ya just spit out those catchy phrases.....around those of us so easily sucked in by the power of suggestion??!!

      **but I guess if you say so.....I'll have to pack my bags and go...that's right! Hit the road, Jack and don't you.......... come back.....no more....no

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Beaddve, I had not heard that about Google...anyway, best of luck to you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Pooja; you can call me Bill.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Jackie, I have a lot of ground to cover and not a lot of time. The years are passing much too quickly and I have a lot to do. Thank you my friend; as I said, I have very little faith in Hub scores. :)

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Oh thanks a lot, Paula...now guess who is stuck with that damn song the rest of the day? You are either the funniest person I know or the most cunning...or both.

      Have a safe and enjoyable 4th my friend; stay cool and be good! Oh hell, don't you dare be good...no fun in that at all.

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      Terrye Toombs 4 years ago from Somewhere between Heaven and Hell without a road map.

      I wish, Bill. He's gotta work. But he's off tomorrow, so we might be able to catch some fireworks if they haven't been cancelled due to the HIGH fire danger. We might head up to the lake tomorrow. :) Do a little skinny dippin, etc. :) *wink*

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      Modern Lady 4 years ago from Chicago, IL

      Congrats on everything you've accomplished in such a short amount of time. This was a very enjoyable read.

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      Paula 4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      I'm FUNNY.......trust me, "cunning" requires far too much energy!......funny is easy. I would do as you suggest and "be good"....but then I'll have to wear a name tag.............do not mix firecrackers and matches.........and go easy with the sparklers........they get hot as a damned bitch!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Wink right back atcha Sis!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Modern, thank you so much; I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Yes, Paula, you are FUNNY! Bev sends greetings and best wishes...for some reason she likes you. :)

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      Shelley Watson 4 years ago

      If only Sister Attila could meet you now, sure she would love you! Happy 4th to you and yours! Thanks for the great read!

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      Paula 4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Hi Bev!!! I like you too, girl! Pray for your patience and tolerance everyday, you know!!! Bless your stable mind......considering your live-in situation.....I'm just sayin.........

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      Austinstar 4 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

      Hey BillyBuc - Nice points here. I've been here on HP for 2 years now. I don't even have as many followers as you do. But I know most of them and I hope they read what I have to say from time to time.

      I also have decorative accolades and a Hubber score that generally stays in the 90's and has been to 100 many times. I think once you hit 100 it should stay there, but that's just IMHO.

      I try to read as many hubs as I can and comment on each. But I don't do it unless I mean it. If I have nothing good to say, I will say nothing. Doesn't mean I hated the hub, just that I had nothing to say about it. Perhaps it was already said.

      At any rate, we love you at HubPages and hope you stick around forever!

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      Sheila Brown 4 years ago from Southern Oklahoma

      I write because I enjoy it and if I make some money in the mean time, that's great! I aways try to show gratitude and generosity when I leave a comment. I would never try to run someone down or hurt their feelings. I have been fortunate to not have any being ugly to me, yet. I too would delete them. HubPages has been wonderful experience for me and I find that most people here are exceptionaly kind and helpful. You my dear are definately in that group.

      I'm sure you have said many things here that most of us would like to say, but haven't had the guts to do so. More power to you! You just keep on writing and we will keep on reading! Happy 4th !

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Cyber! Happy 4th to you and yours as well.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Paula, message received, laughed at and passed on!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Austin, you are a kind soul. Thank you so much; it is impossible to comment on every new hub! I would never sleep or eat if I did so, but I do try to give attention to followers weekly at least. I appreciate you and your kind words. Have a great 4th!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sgbrown, thank you so much! I love HubPages and totally enjoy people like you. Have a great 4th of July and I'll see you down the road.

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      Joshua Zerbini 4 years ago from Pennsylvania

      Bill, I am with you on those hub scores, and laughed out loud with your vision of the dart board. That is so true, you know they are doing that every day! LOL Thanks for the informative scope of your past six months bud! Have a great day!

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      Suzanne Ridgeway 4 years ago from Dublin, Ireland

      Bill, What a great article, photos and video (yes, i did watch the entire video!). So many "hit the nail on the head" moments!! As a newbie of 2 months I recognise so many of my thoughts here. Interesting what you say about followers and a spammer in particular. In your video when you say life is too short, ever since I lost my mum suddenly in 1997 it is what I remember when times are tough. Spot on Bill! Thank you for a fantastic hub, first time I have voted every available box!! Will share this gem and hope you are enjoying your July 4th!!

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      Christy Birmingham 4 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Thank-you for offering us these reflections. I look at my hub score each morning but really don't know why it fluctuates... it's a hidden formula :) I vote up and am pleased to have met you here Bill.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Josh! Get out that dart board and post your own score for your hubs. It's the only method that makes sense. LOL Have a great 4th of July!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Suzie my friend, you are a gem! Thank you and I hope you enjoy this summer day and that it is filled with happiness.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Christy, you are a joy to know! Thank you for your unfailing support.

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      Amy Becherer 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      The world today is all about self-promotion...the art of the salesman. I've been fortunate with my paintings selling themselves, but today it is the enterprenurial spirit and advertising that adds up to wealth. With the internet the dominant means of communications across the globe, and everyone eyeing a piece of the pie, it takes moxie and technical savvy to succeed. But, you have to have something to sell. You hit the nail on the head, Bill, stating first and foremost, writers must have something fresh to say and the ability to convey their message dynamically. Quantity, scores, followers, raise visibility, but can't help someone with a poor product. I recently read an online article regarding self-publishing and the excellent advise given was "don't be too anxious". The author advised taking the time to make sure that what you put in front of the world is precise, grammatically correct and exactly the writer's intent. First impressions are everything. Poor skills stand out like a sore thumb and few are given a second chance. Your observations, Bill, hit the bulls-eye, right on the mark. Thank you

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Amy! Believe me when I say I respect you as a quality writer and your words mean a great deal to me. Have a wonderful 4th of July; sending you peace and happiness today and all days.

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      Janine Huldie 4 years ago from New York, New York

      Another great hub and totally enjoyed reading this as usual it seems with your hubs though. Thank you for your insights on this and for always putting it out there straight forward. Sharing and voting up of course!

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      toknowinfo 4 years ago

      Hi Billy, You have been a wonderful asset to our writing community since you joined. I always enjoy your writing, but I particularly enjoyed your random thoughts about Hub Pages. Now you got me thinking some random thoughts. But I am still compelled to rate you up, interesting, funny, and useful. Mostly, though, I want to congratulate you on your 6 month milestone, and tell you I look forward to more of your writing.

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      IntegrityYes 4 years ago

      This hub is one of the best ones ever. Keep writing great and informative ones,Billy.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Janine, thank you very much! Your comments are always appreciated.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      toknowinfo, I appreciate you and thank you for the well-wishes. I'll keep doing what I do and I look forward to traveling this path with you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Integrity, thank you sir! I wish you a blessed and happy day!

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      Vincent Moore 4 years ago

      I like a writer who get's right to the point. Your six month tenure here has been outstanding, your accumulation of friends and hubs is astounding. But as you indicated accumulation of numbers for the sake of numbers is foolhardy indeed, it comes back to bite us in the butt. But heck I joined a little over two years ago under Saddlerider1 found I was more a poet than a short story writer. Accumulated close to a 1000 followers and ran a score constantly between 95 and 100.

      Once I decided to create a pen name to associate and relate to my poetry and made it my new username along with shaving down to just over 300 followers and tossing the rest due to as you cited never leaving me a comment just a follow. I found some genuine followers and they are still with me today. My score now hovers between 90 and 95 but who gives a scratch?

      If I can hang on to the few I have who are interested in my work then Vincent is a happy camper. I know that you write from your heart and soul as well and I see many of the followers I have also follow you and your creative writes. Thank you for sharing your life with us, we have some similarities. My past haunts me still and I lay it down when my Muse works on me late in the night.

      If you don't like poetry, I am not one to follow, but if you should dare then maybe we both will share. Nice meeting you billybuc, I admire you being a man's man and saying it as it is without the frills and fluff. Peace and blessings to you sir.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vincent, thank you sir! I am still in the process of eliminating follows who don't follow, but I'm getting there. I have seen you often on Facebook and for some reason simply haven't hit the right buttons to follow your work. I will correct that omission now.

      I appreciate your words. If we have walked a similar path then you are a man I would like to meet.

      Happiness to you today and all days, Vincent!

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      Cynthia Calhoun 4 years ago from Western NC

      Your hubs are like my daily cup of joe - er tea - but they're just such a breath of fresh air. I have no idea about Hubscores or any other scores on this site. The one and only thing I can figure out is that the more I linger on the site, the more my score drops. It actually forces me to go to other things. Ha!

      I admit I like accolades. You see, if I "see" the goal, I'll work for it. If there's no goal, I'll tromp along until I do find a goal to achieve. The accolades show me where I've been - really, nothing more. They are little badges of motivation for me and that's it, but that's why I like them. It pushes me to do more.

      As for rude hubbers...hmm, I usually only delete the spammy ones. I have, in the past, let people have their vents on my comments, I leave a polite comment and then I ignore them. Sometimes it's hard, but after reading what you and others do, I feel less obligated in publishing comments that make me cry - a few have. I might just have to delete those little insidious blurts of spastic anger.

      I feel like I've soared as a writer here on HP. So much so that I'm giving this (and a few other internet things up my sleeve) a shot at full-time income. I dunno if I'll make it, but I'll sure have fun trying. :)

      Now, I'll "steal" your idea and I'll think about writing another grammar hub...just for fun. :)

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      Christina Lornemark 4 years ago from Sweden

      What a great way to celebrate 6 months on HubPages Bill! Hubscore, accolades and numbers of followers are only a way to measure something that isn't measurable! Maybe that is the reason why we don't understand the fluctuations in hubscores:) I enjoyed reading this hub and I am glad to have the pleasure of "meet" you and others here. Well done and congratulations to you and your great achievements so far!

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      Maria Magdalena Ruiz O'Farrill 4 years ago from Borikén the great land of the valiant and noble Lord

      I was trying to have the time to read this hub. You made me smile with your honest way. I feel happy to know I am normal when I read what I have felt by someone else.

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      Kathy Sima 4 years ago from Ontario, Canada

      You have a way with words, Bill. Thanks for sharing your HubPages observations with us. This hub was fun to read, and I look forward to reading what you've learned in the next six months!

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      farmloft 4 years ago from Michigan

      Your thoughts are a lot like mine, but I doubt I've ever had any hubs stolen...and I had to think awhile to know what you meant by accolades - oh, yeah, that's what those things are called!

      Encouraging to all to keep improving the craft. Thanks.

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      DoItForHer 4 years ago

      After all the overwhelmingly postive comments, this Hub's score is down to 56.

      *imitates Scooby Doo* "Rrruh?"

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      Donna Hilbrandt 4 years ago from Upstate New York

      Congratulations on six months. I love your theory behind the hub scores. I think you might be right about the dart board. I also wholeheartedly agree with you about two things: 1.Being genuine will gain you an audience of people who actually read your work. 2.Good grammar and quality writing is essential. Badly written work is a huge pet peeve of mine. Great stuff here. Keep writing, as I enjoy your work :)

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cyndi, you and people like you are an absolute joy for me. I love the community I have found here and I love having a little Sis to talk with about life and all. I hope you are having a wonderful 4th of July and thank you my dear friend.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Tina, thank you! The biggest accolade that I have received is the accumulation of friendship I have gained. I appreciate you my friend.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lastheart, it is a pleasure getting to know you; thank you for our new friendship.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Savingkathy, thank you! I hope you are enjoying HubPages as much as I am. Have a wonderful 4th of July!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Farmloft, love your name. I'm going to buy a farm in three years and then I'll mark off one more thing on my bucket list. Thank you for the visit.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dolt....that was very funny and it wouldn't surprise me at all. Thanks for the visit.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Donnah, thank you, and I enjoy your work as well. Let me propose a toast that we have many more months sharing each other's work.

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      TripleAMom 4 years ago from Florida

      I always enjoy seeing what you have to say. You are so right that if you write for the sake of improving your craft, the numbers really don't matter. And...I so agree about the bad writing. Grammar DOES count. Anyway, congrats on 6 months and looking forward to more.

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      Dianna Mendez 4 years ago

      Well, I didn't write this, but it reflects pretty much my sentiments as well. How about I just copy and paste it as my hub? I'll just add a couple of photos, sentences and a video to mine. Congratulations on your six months, Bill. Looking forward to much more from your view of the world.

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      Skarlet 4 years ago from California

      Good one Billybuc,

      I don't know what those scores mean either. I have also had a 100 score very briefly, and stay anywhere from 87-91 most of the time. I just ignore those now. Love the old photo you included.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      TripleAMom....love your Hub name by the way....thank you very much. It's been a great six months and the best thing I could have done in order to improve as a writer. I look forward to many more months of reading your hubs and watching you grow as well.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dianna, you can take this and use it any old time you want...I'll put a bow on it and name it after you. :) Anything for one of my most loyal followers. Thank you my dear and I hope your 4th was fantastic.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Skarlet! It's always nice to see you; I love using old photos and from the comments I'm not the only one who enjoys them. I appreciate you stopping by.

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      Dexter Yarbrough 4 years ago from United States

      Congratulations on 6 months, Billybuc! Looking forward to seeing more of you!

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      Victoria Lynn 4 years ago from Arkansas, USA

      Another interesting, reflective hub! I love your random thoughts. I love how you are serious and funny at the same time. I can relate to some of these things--like some hubs that get few views but are ranked really high. And vice versa. What's up with that?

      You have been cranking out a lot of cool hubs in only 6 months. Impressive. So glad I met you here! (Oh, and I voted up and all the way across!)

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      Tammy 4 years ago from North Carolina

      It is really nice for someone to honestly reflect on the Hubpages adventure. I have to agree that it is mostly good. Like you, I have had three hubs plagarized word for word, and ideas copied immediatley after publishing at least 2 times. I see too much of that and I have seen several that look like carbon copies of yours. There are a few fake people and some with real mental issues, but they are ignored easily enough.

      Hubbers like you make it worthwhile to sign in every day. You are one of the best people I have encountered on here and definately one of the most genuine. It has been a pleasure to follow you on your six month journey and a priviledge you call you my friend. Keep up the good work.

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      kygirl89 4 years ago from West Virginia

      I greatly enjoy HubPages too because I want to improve as a writer and I love being a part of a writing community. I can't wait until I reach my first six months and can reflect on them. I wonder how much knowledge about the site I'll gain by then. After reading your hub I feel less concerned about the scores and more about the learning that is going on here, thank you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Dexter! It's been a thrill meeting people like you, so much talent and genuinely nice people.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vicki, thank you! I consider you a friend which is remarkable since we have never met...but that's the magic that is HubPages!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Tammy, I owe you and several others a debt I will gladly keep repaying. Your encouragement and nice words kept me going early on, and your friendship is a treasure. Thank you so much; I'm having the time of my life on HubPages.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kygirl, thank you for visiting and you are very welcome. People reached out to me six months ago and gave me encouragement; I plan on paying it forward and I know you will do the same when you have six months. Keep writing; you have talent and you will only get better.

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      DS Duby 4 years ago from United States, Illinois

      Your honest outspoken hubs are great examples of what keeps me writing on Hubpages. In my short time here I've had my share of ideas copied, having one of my hubs hit 3000 views in 1 day and 2 days later read a new hub from someone with the exact same details only rewritten, not plagiarism technically, but very rude and unoriginal, and very few of my followers even know what I write about, I know they don't read my stuff, but I do have a few loyal friends that make it all worth it. So thank you for keeping it real and sharing your honest insight with us all. voted up and interesting.

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      Joseph De Cross 4 years ago

      Gee! always late to the party; Bill might stop following me pretty soon... (jk) Billy What can I tell you... How's been going on? Nah, that is too borrowed. What I notice is the amount of commenters on your hub... Why is that?? Is it the honey with no much money (sorry HP) but lots of soul rewarding..? I agree with your points and you made me laugh!! Sorry if I sound like Josh younger bro' at Walmart, but We are funny people and we cannot change. Have been following on and off, due to a day job that lets me go home by 11pm Eastern Time. So I apologize if I cheat and skip some hubs. Just one question: I think the reason of your score is the because you share bev's pic walking that mountain...don't you think? Maybe a bot or whatever the gurus call it... might think you are spamming your hubs with some pixels of the same grade. Jokes aside, it's been a pleasure to have met you in here. I think your dad is up there watching over you. You see the smile and the feelings in your heart? That's the sign...you see? We are really good people interacting with good people...I don't even know why I wrote this long...maybe the one up there wanted you to have a good time... and we love to make people smile. Thanks billy and happy belated 4th of July, Well is 9pm in Tacoma. Have a good one Billy

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      DS, thank you! I thought I was following you only to discover, once again, that I was mistaken. What a shock! LOL...I appreciate your words; I have been horrible of late in following everyone I want to follow; too much work piling up and not enough hours. I will make a better effort and be in your corner shortly.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lord, you became quite loquacious all of a sudden. :) Thank you for your kind words. I have had a blast here on HubPages and have met some incredibly nice people and talented writers....and yes, you are included. I appreciate your comment about my dad and I think you are probably correct.

      I hope you had a great 4th and I'll see you down the road.

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      Melanie Chisnall 4 years ago from Cape Town, South Africa

      Bill, I really admire how brutally honest you are in your articles - there is no egg shells with you, and it's so refreshing! I agree with what you've written here - some of it is really annoying to those of us that take the time to be polite, friendly and write quality articles, so thanks for pointing some of these out! Congrats on your 6 months here! :)

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      Ishwaryaa Dhandapani 4 years ago from Chennai, India

      Happy 4th of July! This is an uplifting read! Like you, I am here for 6 months. I completely agree with your points as the similiar things have happened to me! I am here to write 100 percent quality hubs and encourage fellow-hubbers with their deservingly good work. Your engaging and honest hub serves as an ideal lesson for many of us, new hubbers & old hubbers alike! Congrats! Well-done!

      Thanks for SHARING. Useful, Awesome & Interesting. Voted up and Socially Shared.

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      Mary Beth Adomaitis 4 years ago from Southern California

      Interesting observations... i too often wonder about how the hub score is calculated. Keep on keeping on!

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      Ron Hawkster 4 years ago from United States of America

      Billy,

      Good hub.

      "If you don't mind I'll just borrow that hub."

      Some people have difficulty complimenting you so they do the next best thing: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." Yes, I have noticed it. They may borrow the idea, but I know they can't beat the original.

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      Ashish Joshi 4 years ago from India

      Well said, Sir...

      I too am yet to decipher plenty of tit-bits here.

      You hit the bull's eye with almost every observation of yours, for say 'Phantom Hubbers'. I too made this mistake during my very early days but realization doomed upon me sooner than later which even made me feel guilty, but now I sincerely try to visit the people I'm following.

      Kudos to you for this one.

      'up' and much...shared as well.

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      myownlife 4 years ago from london

      A very useful hub specially for new hubbers like me, I am hanging around here for about a month and trying to learn the key things and thinking of writing more, I know I am not being able to manage my time, sometime the saying: Where there is a will, there is a way, is also being failed, and here thing your six months experience hub is fruitful enough for me.

      Voted up

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      Russ Moran 4 years ago from Long Island, New York

      Thanks for this Hub Bill. I've been on HP for a bit over 4 months and I share some of you thoughts. I thought I was the only one confused, if not dazed, by the Hub and Hubber scores.

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      Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Has it only been six months? You seem like such a pillar on HP, I would have sworn you'd been here longer than me (just over a year).

      You are absolutely right about the numbers. They will drive you nuts if you let them. And if you do, you've missed the point of HP.

      Keep the good work coming!

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      TheHomePlate 4 years ago from Springfield, IL

      Excellent at what you do. I have chosen to follow you because I believe you are not only a talented writer, but have refreshing points of view. I look forward to your next 180 days.

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      Mary Craig 4 years ago from New York

      Lord thought he was late to the party? Look at me! Sorry, family got in the way.

      There is so much to say about this hub and it's comments I really don't know where to start! "I like to think of my site as a benevolent monarchy", do you practice that at home or should I ask Bev? Of course even a freindly monarachy has it's power, "hit the road and don’t let my benevolent door hit you in the butt on the way out'. Yes, I too am singing Hit the Road Jack, thank you Paula! But then I read on and I get stuck with "It's My Party and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, you would cry too if it happened to you!" Now that came from Lord's line about being late to the party and fits in with the personalities you sometimes come across...those very few hubbers who think this is their personal dictatorship!

      Anyway, as always this was a great hub with great points and humor in every paragraph. In six months you have accomplished more than a lot of hubbers who have been here for three years.

      I must admit my very, very favorite part of this hub is where you said, and I quote, "I’m planning on staying here and I hope you will join me." Though not a question, my answer is yes, yes, yes. I too am planning on being here for a whie and cannot imagine hub pages without your wit and sagacity! (Is that a good one teacher?)

      Voted up, useful, funny, and interesting.

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      Jeannie InABottle 4 years ago from Baltimore, MD

      I am still convinced Hub Scores are one of life's greatest mysteries. For the life of me, I can't figure out how any of it is determined. When I went on vacation for a few days and did not read any hubs, nor did I comment or vote on any hubs, my score hit 100. Once I was back and participating again, it dropped. Hmmm.

      It has been fun following you and I hope your next 6 months are even better than your first! Great hub and voted up!

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      Trinity M 4 years ago

      billybuc 1st I’d like to congratulate you on your 6 month anniversary; it’s a pleasure to have someone around like you so I’m looking forward to the next 180 days.

      As for all the points you address in your hub, all I can say is “Amen”. You are SO right, I too have no idea what hubber or hub score is, I have way less followers than you and three quarters of them are phantoms, and I don’t know why people bother to be rude on others’ hubs, we are here as a community and if you don’t agree with something be nice or move along. Thank you for setting such a wonderful example and for being a very supportive and great friend to me personally.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      MelChi, thank you so much! Life is too short for beating around the bush! Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes. LOL I appreciate you as always.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ishwaryaa, in the short time I have known you I have found you to be a genuine and passionate human being. I am glad you believe in quality work and I appreciate you visiting and your kind words.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      MBA...I will indeed keep on! Writing is my passion and I don't need a Hub score to tell me when I'm doing well.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ron, excellent point my friend! I guess I should be flattered. LOL Thank you so much!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ashish, I am in the process now of eliminating followers who I never hear from; it is liberating and the right thing to do. Thank you my new friend; I greatly appreciate you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Myownlife, time management is always the biggest problem for writers. If you have another job it is difficult, or if you are like me and writing is all you do, there are so many distractions to take you away from writing.

      Anyway, thank you!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      rfmoran, you have a lot of company when it comes to confusion. I still look at the score every day but I certainly don't lose any sleep over it. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kathleen, thank you! How is your favorite baseball team doing? One thing I have found writing full-time is that I lose track of time and even seasons; I have to keep reminding myself that it's baseball season. Anyway, thank you for visiting and the kind words.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      HomePlate, I really appreciate your words. I try to be open and honest; life is too short for this boy to beat around the bush. I look forward to watching you grow as a writer and thank you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Mary, you ended with a great word and yes, that was a good one!

      It's been a terrific six months but for me, the best part is meeting people like you. What a great medium, where we can make friends from all around the world, and help each other with support and kind words. I love it.

      Thank you my friend; have a wonderful weekend and I'll see you round the bend.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Jeannie; the same thing happened to me in late January; we lost power for six days and when the power came back on my score had increased. Too funny! Maybe that's their way of telling me to not write so much. LOL Thank you Jeannie!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Awww, Trinity, you are easy to be friends with. I love your attitude and your warm personality and it is a pleasure supporting you. I appreciate everything about you and I look forward to many more months of us supporting each other.

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      Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Braves aren't doing great right now. Lost the last two to the Cubs - one of my other favorite teams, so it didn't hurt too much. Chipper is going to the AllStars - probably for sentimental reasons and taking the spot of some young guy who'll go next year after Chipper retires. Who do you follow? Please don't say a team in the AL. I think so much of you. Pitchers bat in the game God plays.

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      lovedoctor926 4 years ago

      Hi Billybuc,

      I really enjoyed this hub. There is much food for thought here. Your tips are very helpful. The icecream bar statement made me laugh! Your hubs are fantastic! You are a great inspiration for all the newbies and writers here. I just read your biography and I must say that you have very good credentials. Looking forward to reading more.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kathleen....I really hate to tell you this...but I have to root for Seattle since they are our team here in the Northwest...but I do agree with you about the designated hitter if that helps...and my favorite team growing up was the Cardinals, so I get points for that, right? LOL

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Love, if I'm an inspiration then I am humbled and grateful. That's what HubPages is all about. Thank you and I like your new profile picture. :)

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      Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Anybody who lives in that beautiful part of the country can root for whomever they choose. Spent best four years of my life living on American Lake on Fort Lewis in the late 80s.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Great fishing on American Lake, Kathleen, or at least there used to be. Thanks for giving me a pass on the American League! :)

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      lovedoctor926 4 years ago

      Thank you billybuc.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Love....:)

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 4 years ago from Southern Illinois

      All of your questions echo mine. We will never know why our hub score drops overnight, or why a hub had a lower score than others with the same amount of views. If my score stays in the 90's, I'm a happy camper. 96 was my highest score and it only lasted two hours. I love to write. I must say that I am thankful for a place to write and hopefully improve. I liked your rant. It was an honest attempt to understand, there's nothing wrong with that. Cheers my friend.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ruby, I love your description of this hub as a rant. It didn't start out that way but seemed to take on a life of its own as I was writing...which is pretty much how I write all the time. Thank you and it's nice to have company with regards to these topics.

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      Ashish Joshi 4 years ago from India

      You are right, Sir. There're always some who would enter the party through the main gate and soon leave through the hind.

      Why do you even bother to eliminate? Who knows, may be they come back to the party sometime and choose to stay!!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ashish, that would be wonderful but I haven't seen it happen in six months time. Perhaps I'll take your suggestion and hold off on eliminating some. Thank you my friend; it's always a pleasure to hear from you.

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      Ashish Joshi 4 years ago from India

      I'm sure it'll happen unless they don't exist here anymore.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ashish, we shall see!

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      Jasmine 4 years ago

      Great hub, billybuc! It made me laugh! I have to reflect on those who thought you wouldn't mind if they borrowed that idea of yours (lol) - their hubs may be similar to yours, but never better, or at least, just as good!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vox, thank you! That's actually one reason I don't get very upset over it. In the end it is quality of writing that will count. I have great faith in the intelligence of people and I believe they appreciate quality over quantity any day. I really appreciate your kind words.

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      Jasmine 4 years ago

      You're welcome! I guess, those people want to be like you - maybe you can take it as a compliment (lol)

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vox, I like that; I think I can definitely live with that. :)

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      Christy Birmingham 4 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Hi Bill, a quick note to let you know I've linked to this hub in my newest one about motivation :) Your hub is in the 'success story' box. Take care my friend.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Christy...I'll go take a look now!

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      Kelly Umphenour 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      Hey Bill - yeah you better stay around HP!

      That being said, I feel like some days in order to keep up with everyone I love? It is impossible!! There are so many talented writers - I play heck trying to read everything but I do stick with the same crowd for sure.

      I have had a pretty good experience with HP...I have learned a ton, met some very cool peeps and made a buck or two. I do not pretend to understand hubber or hub score - it's greek ta me - most days anymore I have no idea what my score is or how many reads I have had!

      I do enjoy following you and I always read you thru to the end because you are very good at it:) Vote up as always!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kelly, it is darn near impossible to give everyone attention. There are days I just won't read anything from anybody because of time constraints...then I feel guilty and read fifty the next day. LOL..Thank you for reading mine through; that means a lot to me. Rest assured I do the same with you.

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      MargaritaEden 4 years ago from Oregon

      Another very enjoyable, entertaining and practical hub Bill! You are such a good writer!

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      T4an 4 years ago from Toronto, Ontario

      Billybuc, I love this hub. I have no idea how the scores work either. I was 97 last week and then when down to 90. I have no idea why. I plan to read this one again. Voted up!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      T4an, if you love to write then just write; don't be concerned with scores at all. Thank you my friend!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Margarita, that is very kind of you; I mention that because I know you mean it and you aren't just saying it to be polite. I respect that very much.

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      cheetah786 4 years ago

      i am not touching 75. your hub score decreased to 90 for no reasons, why is this so..?

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cheetah, the day you figure out that mystery please let me know.

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      kimberlyslyrics 4 years ago

      I just loved this hub

      thankyou

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kimberly! I truly do appreciate you, more than you probably realize.

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      Rosie writes 4 years ago from Virginia

      Enjoyed your hub - I don't try to make too much sense out of it all, just love to write and create. I'm glad there is a forum for me.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Rosie, I echo your words completely. This is a forum I greatly enjoy and I love the friendships I have made. Thank you!

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      Amber Lynn 4 years ago

      This little box is my personal soap box and I will put what I want in here!!! Just kidding lol billybuc, you are a very talented writer, and I really enjoy reading your work. Excellent job

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      That was funny Angel..thank you for the laugh, and you can use my site as a soap box anytime you feel like it. :)

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      Amber Lynn 4 years ago

      Well, since I have your permission... :)

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Angel, don't get carried away! LOL

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      chrisinhawaii 4 years ago

      Another terrific hub, Bill. Congrats on hitting 6 months! As another one of your commenters said, I thought you'd been here a lot longer, though...

      I like what you mentioned about not giving haters space on your hubs...I had one guy that was being a dummy on a couple of my hubs, but I let his comments go through. But ya know, it's just like you said: we're not obligated to let them trash us on our own sites. They can use their own hubs for that if they feel the need...benevolent butt...=) I can't imagine anybody taking issue with your writing. Losers...haha!

      Aloha!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Chrisinhawaii....thank you! I just don't think that's what the comment section should be about. It's only happened three times for me but it was three times too many. Anyway, I appreciate you dropping by and Aloha to you as well.

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      carol stanley 4 years ago from Arizona

      Loved this article and think you are hilarious...I am trying to get a few answers and you seem to know your way around here ...I will ask and maybe get an answer.

      1. Can we do book reviews

      2. Is first person articles about interesting experiences okay?

      Well those are all for now..Thanks SO Much. Kepp writing.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Carol, I'm glad you enjoyed it and thank you. To answer your two questions, yes and yes!

      Feel free to drop me a note if you have any other questions; I don't mind at all. Someone had to help me early on....over and over again. :)

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      New Newbie 4 years ago

      Thank you for this liberating article.

      I thought I was alone in not understanding the scoring system. I even told a friend I felt that Hub Pages are operated by the Wizard of Oz. I think your idea of the dart board is more like it.

      I’ve been a member for 10 days. It has not been encouraging to see my numbers dropping and not know why. To tell the truth that was taking the fun out of writing and submitting Hubs. Now I’ll just try to ignore them fluctuating and not hustle comments or followers and see how it works out. I'm not trying to write enough to make

      Thanks again

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      T4an 4 years ago from Toronto, Ontario

      Billy, I just read this again. Love it just as much as the first time. :) I was at 96 and then dropped to 92 without even writing anything. I don't understand it either. Oh well...

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Newbie, the best advice I can give anyone is to write quality hubs and get involved with the community....once everyone gets to know you then you will have a base of views to build on....but your hubs have to be interesting enough to read. :) Best of luck to you, and if I can be of some help, drop me a line.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      T4an, I went from 89 to 96 in one day last week and have no clue....I simply quit paying any attention to it.

      I really appreciate you taking the time to stop by and comment.

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      T4an 4 years ago from Toronto, Ontario

      My numbers have really gone down too. Only 20 people have looked at my hubs in 24 hours. Pretty bad...

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ouch! We need to do something about that! Drop me an email and let's talk....holland1145@yahoo.com

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      Natural World 4 years ago from Oklahoma 2012

      Interesting and genuine! Thank you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Natural, thank you for the visit. I'm glad you found it interesting!

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      Patty Kenyon 4 years ago from Ledyard, Connecticut

      I am definitely adding this link to my Hub!! I didn't see it before but as usual Awesomely Done!!!! You are always so genuine and write from your heart!!! I love reading your Hubs!!!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Patty, I always smile when I see you pop up. Thank you my dear; good things await you on HubPages!

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      Cathleena Beams 4 years ago from Lascassas, Tennessee

      I enjoyed reading your humorous reflections on being with HubPages six months. You are quite an achiever and so focused. I need to learn from you to stay focused. Loved this one, voting up, useful, awesome, interesting and sharing!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cathleena, I am about as focused an individual as you are likely to meet. Always been that way, since I was a kid. Thank you and I'm glad you enjoyed my ramblings.

      bill

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      billd01603 4 years ago from Worcester

      Very enjoyable Hub. Voted up and Funny.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Billd01603....so happy that you found this a worthwhile read.

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      SoaresJCSL 4 years ago

      Great Hub with useful information.

      Totally enjoyed reading this.

      Thanks for sharing

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Soares, my pleasure! Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Jessica!

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