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The Writer's Workshop: Six Months On A Writer's Site

Updated on October 4, 2012
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I’m into reflections in a big way. It seems to me that there is no better way to learn than to reflect on the past, pick up some lessons and then move on. So that’s what I’m going to do with this Hub. I’ve put in a fair amount of time now, six months to be exact, and I’ve picked up a few observations along the way.

I’m not going to bore you with statistics from my first six months. I’m not really into statistics all that much for the simple reason that I write on HubPages to improve my craft. The money I make on HubPages is just enough to keep me in ice cream bars for a month, so obviously I’m not here to get rich. I have a better chance of being left a million bucks by Bill Gates than I do of getting rich from writing Hubs.

So what follows is a series of observations gathered from my first 180 days. I’m sure I’ll have more observations after the next 180 and yes, there will be a next 180. You aren’t getting rid of me that easy!

If you get anything of value from these then great; if you find no value you can still print this Hub and use it as liner for the bird cage, or use it as toilet paper instead of the next Land’s End catalog.

Shall we begin?

HUBBER SCORE

I didn’t understand the Hubber score when I started and I still don’t today. I actually had a score of 100 for two days; today it is 90 and I swear on a stack of Bibles, I have no idea why it has changed. In fact, the 100 came after about a month on this site when I knew next to nothing. Now that I’m reasonably aware of the goings on at HubPages and I have some sort of experience, my score has dropped ten percent. In other words, I have been rewarded for longevity and knowledge with a decrease in my score. Thank God my grades in college weren’t determined that way or I would have never graduated.

Another way to look at it is that HubPages is a great forum for leveling the playing field in life. None of us liked those little goodie-two-shoes in school who were the teacher’s pet and who did everything perfectly. At HubPages those little over-achievers are kicked in the behind and taught what it felt like for the rest of us in school. Go ahead and try to be perfect, Miss Priss! You’ll get what’s coming to you in spades!

PHANTOM FOLLOWERS

As I write this I have 803 followers. I can tell you with all certainty that a large percentage of them have never left a comment on one of my hubs, or at best they left one comment on one hub. I believe, and without a doubt this is a subjective belief, that there are a lot of Hubbers who follow people just so they can rack up their own followers. The question that has to be asked is why do they do that?

It’s kind of like some kids I knew growing up who had all of their awards on their bedroom dresser. You know, the Mr. Congeniality Award and the Miss Kiss Up Award. They had very little value but they sure made those kids feel good. Melt them down and you might get 50 cents, enough for a couple bottles of pop, but that was about it as far as value.

IF YOU DON’T MIND I’LL JUST BORROW THAT IDEA OF YOURS

Have you had this happen to you? You finish writing what you believe to be a great Hub; it gets a lot of views and a substantial number of comments, and then within the week one of your followers writes a Hub that is substantially the same thing as what you wrote. Um, dude, that looks a lot like mine! No way, man, that was my idea….I mean look, I used ten more periods than you did and twenty more commas. No way is mine like yours!

Sigh!

ACCOLADES

Melt them down and go buy two bottles of pop! I mean come on! They look pretty I guess but I’m not sure what value they have. I’ve got ten of the little buggers and before you bow in my direction let me tell you I have no idea what four of them mean. They are basically the Mr. Congeniality Award all over again, except that I never won that award when I was in school. How could I? Sister Mary Attila hated my guts!

Hey, if you are into little round circles with numbers inside of them, then go for it! I know a couple Hubbers who are great with crafts. They might be able to help you make those accolades into craft items and then you could put them on your bedroom dresser right next to the Miss Hottie Award that was voted on by the football team.

HUB SCORE

Again, no clue! Currently I have one Hub that has a score of 97 and it has 123 reads. Down the list I have another with a score of 91 and it has 2,205 reads. It would take the FBI, the CIA and a team of mathematicians from MIT to figure out what makes a Hub score.

I have this picture in my mind of the HubPages Administration, sitting in their offices, throwing darts at a big dart board. On the board are numbers ranging from 46-100 and whatever number they hit is your Hub score for that day. That explanation makes as much sense as any I have heard so far.

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

There was a Hubber recently who was doing a lot of spamming; I have to assume it was all an attempt to garner followers and somehow raise her score and earnings. Unfortunately, it didn’t take long for that little over-achiever to be found out by her fellow Hubbers, who all started un-friending her. I’m a big believer in Karma and that young lady got a firsthand taste of Karma at HubPages.

Genuine people attract genuine people. Phonies do not last too long on any forum and HubPages is no different. If you are making a genuine and honest effort to follow others then others will follow you. If you are leaving meaningful comments then you will receive the same. If you are writing quality Hubs then your following will grow. If you are an active part of the HubPages community then that community will embrace you. They will share your work and they will recommend you to others.

Phonies need not apply. We will find you, we will hunt you down, and we will ignore you just like we ignored the teacher’s pet on the playground.

RUDE AND OBNOXIOUS

We have all had them, right? The chosen few who feel it is their duty to let you know what you did wrong, or feel it is their God-given right to shout your opinions down and teach you the error of your ways. They are few in number but they are determined to make their presence known.

Listen, I have no problem with someone who disagrees with me. Feel free to drop me a note via email and I’ll discuss all of your points with you. Feel free to invite me onto a related forum and we can debate until the cows come home. However, if you feel that my comment section is your own personal soap box, I will delete you so fast it will make your inflated head spin. Of course, then you can shout about personal freedoms and how your freedom of speech is being taken away from you. Please….get a life! I like to think of my site as a benevolent monarchy. I treat people with respect and compassion, and I expect the same. If you don’t like those rules then hit the road and don’t let my benevolent door hit you in the butt on the way out.

LEARN TO WRITE IF YOU WANT TO IMPROVE AS A WRITER

Maybe my teaching background is overpowering my better sense, but too bad. Good grammar is mandatory if you are to advance your craft as a writer. A good writer’s voice, and I’m talking about your own, is necessary if you are to advance your craft as a writer. Quality and original material are necessary if you are to advance your craft as a writer. All the bells and whistles are worthless if you can’t write. You may be great at designing a visually-pleasing Hub but if the writing sucks the writing sucks! How’s that for blunt?

SO MUCH MORE; UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN

And we will meet again if you are an active member of this community. I’m planning on staying here and I hope you will join me.

As I stated before, HubPages is a platform for me to improve my craft; having said that, I have received much more on this journey. I have been lucky enough to make some very dear friends in six months, dear friends who I would love to meet in person one day. They are my kindred spirits, my soul mates of writing, and I will always be grateful for their following and friendship. Numbers and accolades mean very little to me but those friendships….WOW….they mean everything!

2012 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Jessica!

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      Jessica 3 years ago

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Soares, my pleasure! Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.

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      SoaresJCSL 5 years ago

      Great Hub with useful information.

      Totally enjoyed reading this.

      Thanks for sharing

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Billd01603....so happy that you found this a worthwhile read.

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      billd01603 5 years ago from Worcester

      Very enjoyable Hub. Voted up and Funny.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cathleena, I am about as focused an individual as you are likely to meet. Always been that way, since I was a kid. Thank you and I'm glad you enjoyed my ramblings.

      bill

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      Cathleena Beams 5 years ago from Lascassas, Tennessee

      I enjoyed reading your humorous reflections on being with HubPages six months. You are quite an achiever and so focused. I need to learn from you to stay focused. Loved this one, voting up, useful, awesome, interesting and sharing!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Patty, I always smile when I see you pop up. Thank you my dear; good things await you on HubPages!

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      Patty Kenyon 5 years ago from Ledyard, Connecticut

      I am definitely adding this link to my Hub!! I didn't see it before but as usual Awesomely Done!!!! You are always so genuine and write from your heart!!! I love reading your Hubs!!!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Natural, thank you for the visit. I'm glad you found it interesting!

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      Natural World 5 years ago from Oklahoma 2012

      Interesting and genuine! Thank you.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ouch! We need to do something about that! Drop me an email and let's talk....holland1145@yahoo.com

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      T4an 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario

      My numbers have really gone down too. Only 20 people have looked at my hubs in 24 hours. Pretty bad...

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      T4an, I went from 89 to 96 in one day last week and have no clue....I simply quit paying any attention to it.

      I really appreciate you taking the time to stop by and comment.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Newbie, the best advice I can give anyone is to write quality hubs and get involved with the community....once everyone gets to know you then you will have a base of views to build on....but your hubs have to be interesting enough to read. :) Best of luck to you, and if I can be of some help, drop me a line.

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      T4an 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario

      Billy, I just read this again. Love it just as much as the first time. :) I was at 96 and then dropped to 92 without even writing anything. I don't understand it either. Oh well...

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      New Newbie 5 years ago

      Thank you for this liberating article.

      I thought I was alone in not understanding the scoring system. I even told a friend I felt that Hub Pages are operated by the Wizard of Oz. I think your idea of the dart board is more like it.

      I’ve been a member for 10 days. It has not been encouraging to see my numbers dropping and not know why. To tell the truth that was taking the fun out of writing and submitting Hubs. Now I’ll just try to ignore them fluctuating and not hustle comments or followers and see how it works out. I'm not trying to write enough to make

      Thanks again

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Carol, I'm glad you enjoyed it and thank you. To answer your two questions, yes and yes!

      Feel free to drop me a note if you have any other questions; I don't mind at all. Someone had to help me early on....over and over again. :)

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      carol stanley 5 years ago from Arizona

      Loved this article and think you are hilarious...I am trying to get a few answers and you seem to know your way around here ...I will ask and maybe get an answer.

      1. Can we do book reviews

      2. Is first person articles about interesting experiences okay?

      Well those are all for now..Thanks SO Much. Kepp writing.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Chrisinhawaii....thank you! I just don't think that's what the comment section should be about. It's only happened three times for me but it was three times too many. Anyway, I appreciate you dropping by and Aloha to you as well.

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      chrisinhawaii 5 years ago

      Another terrific hub, Bill. Congrats on hitting 6 months! As another one of your commenters said, I thought you'd been here a lot longer, though...

      I like what you mentioned about not giving haters space on your hubs...I had one guy that was being a dummy on a couple of my hubs, but I let his comments go through. But ya know, it's just like you said: we're not obligated to let them trash us on our own sites. They can use their own hubs for that if they feel the need...benevolent butt...=) I can't imagine anybody taking issue with your writing. Losers...haha!

      Aloha!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Angel, don't get carried away! LOL

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      Amber Lynn 5 years ago

      Well, since I have your permission... :)

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      That was funny Angel..thank you for the laugh, and you can use my site as a soap box anytime you feel like it. :)

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      Amber Lynn 5 years ago

      This little box is my personal soap box and I will put what I want in here!!! Just kidding lol billybuc, you are a very talented writer, and I really enjoy reading your work. Excellent job

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Rosie, I echo your words completely. This is a forum I greatly enjoy and I love the friendships I have made. Thank you!

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      Rosie writes 5 years ago from Virginia

      Enjoyed your hub - I don't try to make too much sense out of it all, just love to write and create. I'm glad there is a forum for me.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kimberly! I truly do appreciate you, more than you probably realize.

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      kimberlyslyrics 5 years ago

      I just loved this hub

      thankyou

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cheetah, the day you figure out that mystery please let me know.

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      cheetah786 5 years ago

      i am not touching 75. your hub score decreased to 90 for no reasons, why is this so..?

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Margarita, that is very kind of you; I mention that because I know you mean it and you aren't just saying it to be polite. I respect that very much.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      T4an, if you love to write then just write; don't be concerned with scores at all. Thank you my friend!

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      T4an 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario

      Billybuc, I love this hub. I have no idea how the scores work either. I was 97 last week and then when down to 90. I have no idea why. I plan to read this one again. Voted up!

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      MargaritaEden 5 years ago from Oregon

      Another very enjoyable, entertaining and practical hub Bill! You are such a good writer!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kelly, it is darn near impossible to give everyone attention. There are days I just won't read anything from anybody because of time constraints...then I feel guilty and read fifty the next day. LOL..Thank you for reading mine through; that means a lot to me. Rest assured I do the same with you.

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      Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      Hey Bill - yeah you better stay around HP!

      That being said, I feel like some days in order to keep up with everyone I love? It is impossible!! There are so many talented writers - I play heck trying to read everything but I do stick with the same crowd for sure.

      I have had a pretty good experience with HP...I have learned a ton, met some very cool peeps and made a buck or two. I do not pretend to understand hubber or hub score - it's greek ta me - most days anymore I have no idea what my score is or how many reads I have had!

      I do enjoy following you and I always read you thru to the end because you are very good at it:) Vote up as always!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Christy...I'll go take a look now!

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      Christy Birmingham 5 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Hi Bill, a quick note to let you know I've linked to this hub in my newest one about motivation :) Your hub is in the 'success story' box. Take care my friend.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vox, I like that; I think I can definitely live with that. :)

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      Jasmine 5 years ago

      You're welcome! I guess, those people want to be like you - maybe you can take it as a compliment (lol)

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vox, thank you! That's actually one reason I don't get very upset over it. In the end it is quality of writing that will count. I have great faith in the intelligence of people and I believe they appreciate quality over quantity any day. I really appreciate your kind words.

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      Jasmine 5 years ago

      Great hub, billybuc! It made me laugh! I have to reflect on those who thought you wouldn't mind if they borrowed that idea of yours (lol) - their hubs may be similar to yours, but never better, or at least, just as good!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ashish, we shall see!

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      Ashish Joshi 5 years ago from India

      I'm sure it'll happen unless they don't exist here anymore.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ashish, that would be wonderful but I haven't seen it happen in six months time. Perhaps I'll take your suggestion and hold off on eliminating some. Thank you my friend; it's always a pleasure to hear from you.

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      Ashish Joshi 5 years ago from India

      You are right, Sir. There're always some who would enter the party through the main gate and soon leave through the hind.

      Why do you even bother to eliminate? Who knows, may be they come back to the party sometime and choose to stay!!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ruby, I love your description of this hub as a rant. It didn't start out that way but seemed to take on a life of its own as I was writing...which is pretty much how I write all the time. Thank you and it's nice to have company with regards to these topics.

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 5 years ago from Southern Illinois

      All of your questions echo mine. We will never know why our hub score drops overnight, or why a hub had a lower score than others with the same amount of views. If my score stays in the 90's, I'm a happy camper. 96 was my highest score and it only lasted two hours. I love to write. I must say that I am thankful for a place to write and hopefully improve. I liked your rant. It was an honest attempt to understand, there's nothing wrong with that. Cheers my friend.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Love....:)

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      lovedoctor926 5 years ago

      Thank you billybuc.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Great fishing on American Lake, Kathleen, or at least there used to be. Thanks for giving me a pass on the American League! :)

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      Kathleen Cochran 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Anybody who lives in that beautiful part of the country can root for whomever they choose. Spent best four years of my life living on American Lake on Fort Lewis in the late 80s.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Love, if I'm an inspiration then I am humbled and grateful. That's what HubPages is all about. Thank you and I like your new profile picture. :)

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kathleen....I really hate to tell you this...but I have to root for Seattle since they are our team here in the Northwest...but I do agree with you about the designated hitter if that helps...and my favorite team growing up was the Cardinals, so I get points for that, right? LOL

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      lovedoctor926 5 years ago

      Hi Billybuc,

      I really enjoyed this hub. There is much food for thought here. Your tips are very helpful. The icecream bar statement made me laugh! Your hubs are fantastic! You are a great inspiration for all the newbies and writers here. I just read your biography and I must say that you have very good credentials. Looking forward to reading more.

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      Kathleen Cochran 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Braves aren't doing great right now. Lost the last two to the Cubs - one of my other favorite teams, so it didn't hurt too much. Chipper is going to the AllStars - probably for sentimental reasons and taking the spot of some young guy who'll go next year after Chipper retires. Who do you follow? Please don't say a team in the AL. I think so much of you. Pitchers bat in the game God plays.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Awww, Trinity, you are easy to be friends with. I love your attitude and your warm personality and it is a pleasure supporting you. I appreciate everything about you and I look forward to many more months of us supporting each other.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Jeannie; the same thing happened to me in late January; we lost power for six days and when the power came back on my score had increased. Too funny! Maybe that's their way of telling me to not write so much. LOL Thank you Jeannie!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Mary, you ended with a great word and yes, that was a good one!

      It's been a terrific six months but for me, the best part is meeting people like you. What a great medium, where we can make friends from all around the world, and help each other with support and kind words. I love it.

      Thank you my friend; have a wonderful weekend and I'll see you round the bend.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      HomePlate, I really appreciate your words. I try to be open and honest; life is too short for this boy to beat around the bush. I look forward to watching you grow as a writer and thank you.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kathleen, thank you! How is your favorite baseball team doing? One thing I have found writing full-time is that I lose track of time and even seasons; I have to keep reminding myself that it's baseball season. Anyway, thank you for visiting and the kind words.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      rfmoran, you have a lot of company when it comes to confusion. I still look at the score every day but I certainly don't lose any sleep over it. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Myownlife, time management is always the biggest problem for writers. If you have another job it is difficult, or if you are like me and writing is all you do, there are so many distractions to take you away from writing.

      Anyway, thank you!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ashish, I am in the process now of eliminating followers who I never hear from; it is liberating and the right thing to do. Thank you my new friend; I greatly appreciate you.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ron, excellent point my friend! I guess I should be flattered. LOL Thank you so much!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      MBA...I will indeed keep on! Writing is my passion and I don't need a Hub score to tell me when I'm doing well.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ishwaryaa, in the short time I have known you I have found you to be a genuine and passionate human being. I am glad you believe in quality work and I appreciate you visiting and your kind words.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      MelChi, thank you so much! Life is too short for beating around the bush! Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes. LOL I appreciate you as always.

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      Trinity M 5 years ago

      billybuc 1st I’d like to congratulate you on your 6 month anniversary; it’s a pleasure to have someone around like you so I’m looking forward to the next 180 days.

      As for all the points you address in your hub, all I can say is “Amen”. You are SO right, I too have no idea what hubber or hub score is, I have way less followers than you and three quarters of them are phantoms, and I don’t know why people bother to be rude on others’ hubs, we are here as a community and if you don’t agree with something be nice or move along. Thank you for setting such a wonderful example and for being a very supportive and great friend to me personally.

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      Jeannie InABottle 5 years ago from Baltimore, MD

      I am still convinced Hub Scores are one of life's greatest mysteries. For the life of me, I can't figure out how any of it is determined. When I went on vacation for a few days and did not read any hubs, nor did I comment or vote on any hubs, my score hit 100. Once I was back and participating again, it dropped. Hmmm.

      It has been fun following you and I hope your next 6 months are even better than your first! Great hub and voted up!

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      Mary Craig 5 years ago from New York

      Lord thought he was late to the party? Look at me! Sorry, family got in the way.

      There is so much to say about this hub and it's comments I really don't know where to start! "I like to think of my site as a benevolent monarchy", do you practice that at home or should I ask Bev? Of course even a freindly monarachy has it's power, "hit the road and don’t let my benevolent door hit you in the butt on the way out'. Yes, I too am singing Hit the Road Jack, thank you Paula! But then I read on and I get stuck with "It's My Party and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, you would cry too if it happened to you!" Now that came from Lord's line about being late to the party and fits in with the personalities you sometimes come across...those very few hubbers who think this is their personal dictatorship!

      Anyway, as always this was a great hub with great points and humor in every paragraph. In six months you have accomplished more than a lot of hubbers who have been here for three years.

      I must admit my very, very favorite part of this hub is where you said, and I quote, "I’m planning on staying here and I hope you will join me." Though not a question, my answer is yes, yes, yes. I too am planning on being here for a whie and cannot imagine hub pages without your wit and sagacity! (Is that a good one teacher?)

      Voted up, useful, funny, and interesting.

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      TheHomePlate 5 years ago from Springfield, IL

      Excellent at what you do. I have chosen to follow you because I believe you are not only a talented writer, but have refreshing points of view. I look forward to your next 180 days.

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      Kathleen Cochran 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Has it only been six months? You seem like such a pillar on HP, I would have sworn you'd been here longer than me (just over a year).

      You are absolutely right about the numbers. They will drive you nuts if you let them. And if you do, you've missed the point of HP.

      Keep the good work coming!

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      Russ Moran 5 years ago from Long Island, New York

      Thanks for this Hub Bill. I've been on HP for a bit over 4 months and I share some of you thoughts. I thought I was the only one confused, if not dazed, by the Hub and Hubber scores.

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      myownlife 5 years ago from london

      A very useful hub specially for new hubbers like me, I am hanging around here for about a month and trying to learn the key things and thinking of writing more, I know I am not being able to manage my time, sometime the saying: Where there is a will, there is a way, is also being failed, and here thing your six months experience hub is fruitful enough for me.

      Voted up

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      Ashish Joshi 5 years ago from India

      Well said, Sir...

      I too am yet to decipher plenty of tit-bits here.

      You hit the bull's eye with almost every observation of yours, for say 'Phantom Hubbers'. I too made this mistake during my very early days but realization doomed upon me sooner than later which even made me feel guilty, but now I sincerely try to visit the people I'm following.

      Kudos to you for this one.

      'up' and much...shared as well.

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      Ron Hawkster 5 years ago from United States of America

      Billy,

      Good hub.

      "If you don't mind I'll just borrow that hub."

      Some people have difficulty complimenting you so they do the next best thing: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." Yes, I have noticed it. They may borrow the idea, but I know they can't beat the original.

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      Mary Beth Adomaitis 5 years ago from Southern California

      Interesting observations... i too often wonder about how the hub score is calculated. Keep on keeping on!

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      Ishwaryaa Dhandapani 5 years ago from Chennai, India

      Happy 4th of July! This is an uplifting read! Like you, I am here for 6 months. I completely agree with your points as the similiar things have happened to me! I am here to write 100 percent quality hubs and encourage fellow-hubbers with their deservingly good work. Your engaging and honest hub serves as an ideal lesson for many of us, new hubbers & old hubbers alike! Congrats! Well-done!

      Thanks for SHARING. Useful, Awesome & Interesting. Voted up and Socially Shared.

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      Melanie Chisnall 5 years ago from Cape Town, South Africa

      Bill, I really admire how brutally honest you are in your articles - there is no egg shells with you, and it's so refreshing! I agree with what you've written here - some of it is really annoying to those of us that take the time to be polite, friendly and write quality articles, so thanks for pointing some of these out! Congrats on your 6 months here! :)

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lord, you became quite loquacious all of a sudden. :) Thank you for your kind words. I have had a blast here on HubPages and have met some incredibly nice people and talented writers....and yes, you are included. I appreciate your comment about my dad and I think you are probably correct.

      I hope you had a great 4th and I'll see you down the road.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      DS, thank you! I thought I was following you only to discover, once again, that I was mistaken. What a shock! LOL...I appreciate your words; I have been horrible of late in following everyone I want to follow; too much work piling up and not enough hours. I will make a better effort and be in your corner shortly.

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      Joseph De Cross 5 years ago

      Gee! always late to the party; Bill might stop following me pretty soon... (jk) Billy What can I tell you... How's been going on? Nah, that is too borrowed. What I notice is the amount of commenters on your hub... Why is that?? Is it the honey with no much money (sorry HP) but lots of soul rewarding..? I agree with your points and you made me laugh!! Sorry if I sound like Josh younger bro' at Walmart, but We are funny people and we cannot change. Have been following on and off, due to a day job that lets me go home by 11pm Eastern Time. So I apologize if I cheat and skip some hubs. Just one question: I think the reason of your score is the because you share bev's pic walking that mountain...don't you think? Maybe a bot or whatever the gurus call it... might think you are spamming your hubs with some pixels of the same grade. Jokes aside, it's been a pleasure to have met you in here. I think your dad is up there watching over you. You see the smile and the feelings in your heart? That's the sign...you see? We are really good people interacting with good people...I don't even know why I wrote this long...maybe the one up there wanted you to have a good time... and we love to make people smile. Thanks billy and happy belated 4th of July, Well is 9pm in Tacoma. Have a good one Billy

      Lord

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      DS Duby 5 years ago from United States, Illinois

      Your honest outspoken hubs are great examples of what keeps me writing on Hubpages. In my short time here I've had my share of ideas copied, having one of my hubs hit 3000 views in 1 day and 2 days later read a new hub from someone with the exact same details only rewritten, not plagiarism technically, but very rude and unoriginal, and very few of my followers even know what I write about, I know they don't read my stuff, but I do have a few loyal friends that make it all worth it. So thank you for keeping it real and sharing your honest insight with us all. voted up and interesting.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kygirl, thank you for visiting and you are very welcome. People reached out to me six months ago and gave me encouragement; I plan on paying it forward and I know you will do the same when you have six months. Keep writing; you have talent and you will only get better.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Tammy, I owe you and several others a debt I will gladly keep repaying. Your encouragement and nice words kept me going early on, and your friendship is a treasure. Thank you so much; I'm having the time of my life on HubPages.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vicki, thank you! I consider you a friend which is remarkable since we have never met...but that's the magic that is HubPages!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Dexter! It's been a thrill meeting people like you, so much talent and genuinely nice people.

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      kygirl89 5 years ago from West Virginia

      I greatly enjoy HubPages too because I want to improve as a writer and I love being a part of a writing community. I can't wait until I reach my first six months and can reflect on them. I wonder how much knowledge about the site I'll gain by then. After reading your hub I feel less concerned about the scores and more about the learning that is going on here, thank you.

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      Tammy 5 years ago from North Carolina

      It is really nice for someone to honestly reflect on the Hubpages adventure. I have to agree that it is mostly good. Like you, I have had three hubs plagarized word for word, and ideas copied immediatley after publishing at least 2 times. I see too much of that and I have seen several that look like carbon copies of yours. There are a few fake people and some with real mental issues, but they are ignored easily enough.

      Hubbers like you make it worthwhile to sign in every day. You are one of the best people I have encountered on here and definately one of the most genuine. It has been a pleasure to follow you on your six month journey and a priviledge you call you my friend. Keep up the good work.

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      Victoria Lynn 5 years ago from Arkansas, USA

      Another interesting, reflective hub! I love your random thoughts. I love how you are serious and funny at the same time. I can relate to some of these things--like some hubs that get few views but are ranked really high. And vice versa. What's up with that?

      You have been cranking out a lot of cool hubs in only 6 months. Impressive. So glad I met you here! (Oh, and I voted up and all the way across!)

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      Dexter Yarbrough 5 years ago from United States

      Congratulations on 6 months, Billybuc! Looking forward to seeing more of you!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Skarlet! It's always nice to see you; I love using old photos and from the comments I'm not the only one who enjoys them. I appreciate you stopping by.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dianna, you can take this and use it any old time you want...I'll put a bow on it and name it after you. :) Anything for one of my most loyal followers. Thank you my dear and I hope your 4th was fantastic.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      TripleAMom....love your Hub name by the way....thank you very much. It's been a great six months and the best thing I could have done in order to improve as a writer. I look forward to many more months of reading your hubs and watching you grow as well.

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      Skarlet 5 years ago from California

      Good one Billybuc,

      I don't know what those scores mean either. I have also had a 100 score very briefly, and stay anywhere from 87-91 most of the time. I just ignore those now. Love the old photo you included.

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      Dianna Mendez 5 years ago

      Well, I didn't write this, but it reflects pretty much my sentiments as well. How about I just copy and paste it as my hub? I'll just add a couple of photos, sentences and a video to mine. Congratulations on your six months, Bill. Looking forward to much more from your view of the world.

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      TripleAMom 5 years ago from Florida

      I always enjoy seeing what you have to say. You are so right that if you write for the sake of improving your craft, the numbers really don't matter. And...I so agree about the bad writing. Grammar DOES count. Anyway, congrats on 6 months and looking forward to more.