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The Good Things About HubPages

Updated on January 20, 2015

Full Disclosure

I’ve been pretty harsh in my views about HubPages of late. I spared very few the written lash as I pointed out the shortcomings of staff and management.

There is no reason for me to repeat those shortcomings. My point has been made and now I move forward, and part of that forward journey is making sure I, in all fairness, point out the positives about that writer’s site.

This article was inspired by a comment I saw on Facebook. A former member of HubPages asked the question: Has HubPages done any good for anyone?

A valid question, and one I felt I needed to address, since I have been one of the harsher critics of late.

So this is my response to that question.

Friends for life
Friends for life | Source

I Can Only Answer for Me

I understand the frustration and yes, anger. Although my goals were never about money when I joined HP, I can certainly understand why others are pissed off. Times are tough economically, and making money online sometimes means the difference between paying a utility bill or having the power disconnected. So this is real for many of you out there.

I can only answer for me.

I joined HubPages against my will. My wife insisted that I join a writing community so I could obtain valuable feedback from my peers. She explained, accurately, that growth would not happen for me if I stayed safely tucked away in my writing studio free of interaction. I needed to put my writing out there and have it judged by other writers.

My plan, quite honestly, was to post a handful of articles to placate my wife, and then be done with HubPages. I gave it the old college try, it didn’t work out, and now it’s time to move on to something else. That’s what I was going to tell her after I put in a week.

And yet, three years later, I am still here.

No one is more shocked than I am.

Something happened during that first week that I could never have predicted: I discovered I loved interacting with other writers. I found acceptance where I did not know acceptance existed.

And that leads us to the first thing I receive from HubPages….the “warms and fuzzies” of friendship.

Warms and Fuzzies

I have over two thousand followers on HubPages, but they are not all friends. It would be foolish and untruthful to say that they all are friends but…..I can honestly say that several hundred of them are my friends, and to this day I find that remarkable.

To date I have met two of them. Two out of several hundred, and yet I consider them all my friends.

In a time when society has raised the drawbridges and become less social; in a time when trust is at a premium and true interaction is flimsy at best; somehow I have managed to form true friendships with hundreds of people without ever leaving my home.

I know their names. I know the names of their family members. I know what they do for a living. I know when they have suffered losses, and I know when they have enjoyed triumphs. I know the names of their pets and what their dreams are….I cry with them, laugh with them, rejoice with them and mourn with them.

From Tucson to Tuscany….from New York to York….from Dubois to Dubai….I have friends around the world, people who care about me and people I care about.

HubPages did that for me!

I built my writing platform at HP
I built my writing platform at HP | Source

Standing on a Platform

For three years now I have given you all advice on how to be an effective freelance writer. I spoke to you from experience. Over three years ago I quit a full-time teaching job and, without a safety net, embarked on a writing journey, so when I told you what worked and didn’t work, I was speaking from the harsh realm of experience.

I told you that a freelance writer needs to build a platform, a body of work that shows his/her skills as a writer, and part of that platform is an online presence. Your articles need to be circulated online. The Google gods must be aware of you.

HubPages has provided that platform. This is what they do. They give writers an online address where their work can be displayed. For the most part they do this well. I am quite certain they understand Google and the marauding Pandas much better than I do, thus increasing our chances, as writers, of having our work seen by the masses.

Their suggestions on how to make articles SEO-friendly are right on. They understand the world of keywords, and they pass that knowledge on to writers free of charge.

There can be no denying that fact.

Springing into the Future

HubPages is, in fact, a springboard for writers. I have made contacts at HP. I have met editors and publishers and certainly readers. I have learned about effective ways to write and publish, and every single day new information is delivered to my inbox.

That information, in turn, will help me in the future as I take my career in new directions. HubPages has, literally, allowed me to become known in the writing community. The name Billybuc….and more importantly, Bill Holland, now is recognizable in dozens of countries. That may not have happened without HubPages, but that is merely conjecture. The fact is that it did happen because, partly, HP was here for me.

I will always be grateful for HubPages
I will always be grateful for HubPages | Source

So Where to Now?

I suspect I will eventually leave. I don’t know when that will be. My friend Cristen suggests I should leave today and take whatever writing talent I have to greener pastures. She also suggests, and accurately I might add, that my efforts would be better served by following other paths. There is no doubt that the monetary payback for all the thousands of hours spent at HP is ridiculous, and I could make much more money if I concentrated my efforts in other pursuits.

She is right and yet I remain.

Shortly after I arrived at HP, I set a personal goal of writing 1,000 articles at HP. I am now at 927. I am fairly certain a change of direction will happen once that goal is attained sometime in April.

Loyalty runs deep in my veins. This is where I got my beginning, and this is where I made hundreds of wonderful relationships, and those things cannot be tossed aside easily….and yet I will have to leave eventually, because I have big plans that demand more and more of my time and effort. I am three years into a five-year plan. I can visualize my success in five years. I know it will happen.

I cannot say the same about HubPages.

And that saddens me.

But this is not about sadness. This is about thanks.

Thank you to the community of fine writers who have supported me for over three years. You will never know how much I truly appreciate you. You do not receive what you deserve at HP, and I’m sure many of you will leave eventually, but I want you to know how important I believe you are.

And thank you to HubPages for giving me the opportunity to spread my wings and fly. Those wings will carry me elsewhere eventually, but there will always be a place in this writer’s heart for the site that gave me a place to grow.

2015 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Deb, I agree with you completely. This is a great place to be until bigger pastures show themselves....and I love that you don't forget your roots.

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      Deb Hirt 2 years ago from Stillwater, OK

      HP is a temporary stomping ground and will be for many. The important thing is that it give us all the co fined that we need to end up where we want, in paying pastures. Thanks to you, you have helped many of us get to that path, and I never forget my roots.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Jeannie!

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      Jeannie InABottle 2 years ago from Baltimore, MD

      I am happy to hear that, Bill. :-)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Jeannie, that is very kind of you to say, and I thank you. I doubt I'll leave. I will have to cut back for sure. Novels take so long to write, and that's where my creative heart is....but HP is my family, and friends like you will keep me here I'm sure.

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      Jeannie InABottle 2 years ago from Baltimore, MD

      Bill, I consider you one of my friends and I hope you do not ever leave HubPages. Sure, sure, you might almost be at a 1000 hubs, but perhaps you should aim for 1000 more. ;-) Or maybe I am just being selfish trying trying to keep you here. Only you know what is good for you.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I know, Glimmer, and I had to write this because I've been critical of HP in a few articles. I love it here, and I want HP to be the best site possible.

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      Glimmer Twin Fan 2 years ago

      I'm glad you wrote this Bill. Sometimes I think that people only want to write about the bad side of things, and I'm not just referencing you, but most situations in general.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hi Cris,

      I think I gave the wrong impression. I doubt I'll ever completely leave HP, but I will have to cut back considerably on my writing here. Of course you can contact me for writing advice. If for some reason I were to leave here, you can always contact me at holland1145@yahoo.com

      love from Oly

      bill

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      CrisSp 2 years ago from Sky Is The Limit Adventure

      Not really looking forward to the day you'd say goodbye to HP but hey, the show must go on and I wish you nothing but the best in and out of HP.

      Don't forget you have a friend up north who'd be more than happy to welcome you in a true Canadian fashion.

      And as always...love and twinkle to you from the sky. ~

      P.S. Can I still contact you for some writing and publishing advise in the future? :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      That's very kind of you, Liza. I appreciate your lovely words. Have a superb week!

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      Graham Lee 2 years ago from Lancashire. England.

      Hi Bill. A sad day indeed when you cut down to maybe one hub a week. I am unable to comment quite as much as usual at the moment. I do though read all of your output as do many other readers. Keep going as long as you can.

      Graham.

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      Liza Treadwell Esq aka Liza Lugo JD 2 years ago from New York, NY

      Bill, if you think you have been blessed by this writing community, understand that it is because you have blessed all of us with your talent, prose, and candor. You are one of a kind. Kudos to you on another great hub.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you very much, Rajan. i think all of us who have taken the time to really get to know each other have learned from each other. I appreciate your kind words and feel the same way about you, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      It definitely is, vkwok. It jump-started my writing career and I'll always be grateful.

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      Rajan Singh Jolly 2 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

      Hubpages for me has been my first writing platform and something that I know has given me the confidence to write whatever little I can. So it will always have that special place in my heart.

      I wish you stay here even after your goals are met though I understand your increasing commitments may not allow you to do so.

      Trust me Bill, I have learnt a lot from you about how to write.

      I wish you the very best wherever you are, my friend.

      Love and blessings.

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      Victor W. Kwok 2 years ago from Hawaii

      Hubpages is definitely a good place for writers to start their growth.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I finally made it, Faith. I don't know what happened, but I was never notified of your latest. I'm sorry for the delay in responding.

      blessings always

      bill

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      Faith Reaper 2 years ago from southern USA

      Oh, Dear Bill, I meant to add that another great thing about HP is that I can always depend on you, a loyal follower, to show your support by always stopping by, reading and commenting whenever I published. So, having said that, I have missed your presence on my latest : ) ... for I am so used to you being one of the first to show your support. Hope all is well. Peace and blessings always

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 2 years ago from United Kingdom

      This is a beautiful love letter. I've got mixed feelings here. Part of me wants to see you succeed. I feel so happy when I see someone I know achieve their dreams. The selfish part of me wants you to stay so I can glean your pearls of wisdom. Whatever happens I want to thank you for giving me the confidence to continue on my own journey and I hope that we can stay in touch.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      peachpurple, I think that's saying quite a bit. Thank you!

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      peachy 2 years ago from Home Sweet Home

      all i can say is HP gives us professional and novice writers a great place to explore

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you amazmerizing...I love your profile name.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Anna, that was a lovely thing for you to say. Thank you so much. I could never totally leave all of you. I'd be without friends and that just won't do. :)

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      amazmerizing 2 years ago from PACIFIC NORTHWEST, USA

      Kudos on that plan and all your personal success, both here and moving forward... off to take a look at that blog...hmmm

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      Anna Haven 2 years ago from Scotland

      Your goals are definitely achievable and if trimming back some Hub time gets you there, then it is definitely worth it.

      You are Hubpages for many people to be honest Bill, and you really are 'the public friendly face' albeit in an unofficial but definitely people elected role.

      You can visit anytime and share your wisdom. Grab your dreams and find that crucial opening. You deserve that clever, silver tongue of yours to speak magic words onto paper, and make you a very successful novelist.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Bill. I won't say for sure....I have no idea when the HP journey will end. I do have other priorities that demand my time, but maybe I can juggle several balls at the same time. We shall see.

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      Bill De Giulio 2 years ago from Massachusetts

      Hi Bill. This really does sound like the beginning of the end. I'm sure there are going to be many people who will miss you here but I think there are endless opportunities for you out there in the writing world. HubPages is a great community and a great way to venture into the world of writing. But, anyone who desires more will eventually have to move on. I'm not sure if HPs will be the same without you but I know everyone here wishes nothing but the best for you. Until that day arrives we will continue to look forward to reading the next Billybuc hub.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Catherine, it really is a good place to interact, meet new people, find encouragement and, like you said improve writing skills. Thank you for your kind words of encouragement.

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      Catherine Giordano 2 years ago from Orlando Florida

      A very honest piece of writing. Perhaps you will raise your goal to 2000. I'm sure we will all miss you. and I'm also sure we will all miss you. HubPages has helped me to improve my writing skills and introduced me to friends from all over the world, too.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lorenzo, thank you for the kind words. I'm not leaving totally, but I will have to cut back.

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      Lorenzo M Vasquez III 2 years ago from El Paso, TX

      Bill,

      Amazing hub! I must say that I appreciate your contributions to the community. You've been very helpful and influential in my quest to become a proficient writer. I'm mostly silent on hubpages but I follow your work closely and find it very respectable. I look forward to continuing to grow as a writer while following your work.

      Lorenzo

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Martie, I agree with you totally, and I'm not leaving completely. YOu are still stuck with me.

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      Martie Coetser 2 years ago from South Africa

      Has HubPages done any good for anyone?

      Well, via HubPages I have met the best of friends. I have learned more about the world and its people in the past 3 yrs in HubPages than during my entire life, and I am sure I have taught others more about my world than they have ever learn before. My perspectives on all topics have expanded. My perception of reality has changed from idealistic to realistic. My English has improved with 100%. HubPages has given me the opportunity to write all my unresolved issues out of my system, and thanks to the support of my friends, I was able to get over it and move on to where I am today - freed from all shit in my soul.

      The money is not much, but always welcome.

      So, where are the greener pastures?

      Billy, as usual I am in agreement with you.

      Take care! HubPages will be pretty boring without you!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      DDE, not leaving, just cutting back. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you ChitrangadaSharan. Don't be sad. I will still be around; just not as often.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dip Mtra, you must sign up for Adsense. You can learn about it in the Learning Center.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Venkatachari, perhaps not leave, but just cut back??? I think that is much more likely, so thank you, but I think you will still have me here.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cristen, it's a "date." :)

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      Devika Primić 2 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Writing on Hubpages has certainly got me a steady plat form. You leaving HP is disappointing.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 2 years ago from New Delhi, India

      It is sad to read that you are thinking of leaving HP! I enjoy reading your hubs and have learnt a lot from them. But I wish you all the best for everything ----in your writings and life in general.

      I started writing at HP two years ago and I have become very much attached to this community and even if one of them leaves, I feel sad, although I have not met anyone of them in real life. This is the most precious feeling of being here at HP.

      Thanks for sharing and this one was very emotional!

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      Dip Mtra 2 years ago from World Citizen

      Bill, I also wish to monetize my articles. How do I go about that? Please help.

      Thanks,

      Dipankar

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      Venkatachari M 2 years ago from Hyderabad, India

      It's a disappointing news, Bill, to know you are going to leave us within 3 months. I have been with you here only since 5 or 6 months and am getting much inspiration from you. So, I will lose a great friend.

      But, it's true that you should find your green fields and can't stick with this dry place. I hope I can be able to read your works wherever you go.

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      Cristen Iris 2 years ago from Boise, Idaho

      I can't wait! And then we will write about it and post it on HubPages. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Michael my friend, not so fast. I'm not gone yet. I have some thinking to do, and some rearranging and balancing. Perhaps I can have the best of both worlds.

      You are a blessing, my friend. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sandra, thank you so much, and I wish nothing but the best for you. Perhaps I can find a balance. I'm kind of an all or nothing kind of guy, but maybe that's what I need to work on.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Doris, I'm so happy that you have found friendships here, and thank you for the encouragement and friendship.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Faith, you have given me every bit as much as I've given you, so thank you. You are a good friend and I greatly appreciate you.

      blessings and hugs coming your way

      bill

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I will remember, that, Flourish, and I thank you for it.

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      Michael-Milec 2 years ago

      Hi my friend , and so long...

      But before we part, let me disagree with you on you opening statement, you were never harsh in your statements or writings , you are speaking objectively, in sincerity out of your untainted heart. You have given us your best of personal experience all you know would help us to become better in our endeavor only if we embrace your teaching and gift of love.

      It's jus obvious your moving forward, since seeds of blessing you were sowing are just about to bring a greater harvest.

      Once again voting across but funny.

      May good Lord continue blessing you and in return you remain blessing to us all.

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      Sandra Joy Eastman 2 years ago from Robbinsdale MN

      Gosh Bill I could spend hours just reading your comment section. I bet you also must spend hours just answering all these. You do a fantastic job. I read both your articles both about the bad and the good about the hub. They were both great. Enjoying all the comments and I agree that if novel writing is a goal it should become your priority. I've had to make that decision in my life and even though I have only been on hub pages for short time I'm quickly realizing that it is a community of writers who hold each other up and it Is not a money maker.

      I will continue to write Hubs but I do have to put my novel writing as a priority. we can always learn from other writers and having a strong community is a great uplifting thing. Keep writing and we'll keep learning.Take care and blessings to you.

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      Doris H. Dancy 2 years ago from Yorktown, Virginia

      You already know that I am relatively new to HP, but the short time that I have been here I have made so many friends. That is why I love this community of writers. The connections have encouraged me, prayed with me, and those like you have taught me. You would be greatly missed if you left, but there is nothing like following your vision.

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      Faith Reaper 2 years ago from southern USA

      It is truly amazing what happened when we first joined. I had that same experience, not really thinking that anyone would care what I had to say or read anything, but alas, they did and they still do. As you have stated, the best part ever is making really true friends here. There are a lot of great writers and down-to-earth good people on these pages. That, in and of itself, is the best blessing of all around HP Town.

      Thank you for being a friend and a blessing to me, dear Bill.

      Peace, blessings and much love always

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      FlourishAnyway 2 years ago from USA

      Sometimes it is best to stop, reflect and regroup before moving in any direction. While you do so you might edit old hubs to boost traffic. I would miss you if you went away. It's not an all or nothing game, just remember that.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Randall, great reflection and suggestion, and I thank you. I'll certainly take it under consideration.

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      Randall Guinn 2 years ago from Pinellas Park, Florida

      With myself, writing began here as a means of making a few extra bucks. When I realized that wasn' going to happen, it became about trying to get a decent score. Finally I realized that none of that really mattered so much, as long as I enjoyed creating the hubs, and reading other's work here as well. A hub a week is still a significant contribution I think. I remember many years ago when I wrote a couple of novels, at times I would stop to write a short story. It gave me a chance to get away from the novel, and then come back to it with a fresh outlook.

      Best wishes with your novel writing!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vicki, I'm so glad you are making more money. My hubs will never make much, but that wasn't the reason I came here anyway, so no loss. I would miss the friendships, though, so no way am I leaving completely...just scaling back in April. Thank you, friend.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      No cold turkey, Jackie. I promise! and thank you, my friend. We've been together a long time and I ain't leaving for good.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Diva, thank you. I do need to spread my wings, but I doubt that means leaving for good, and if you ever make it to Washington, Bev and I will buy you lunch. It would be our pleasure.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      easylearningweb, I will take your advice, because it is logical and sound. Thank you. I never intended to leave completely, but I do need to find more balance for other projects.

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      Victoria Lynn 2 years ago from Arkansas, USA

      Very well said! I don't think I'll ever leave completely, either. I was doing one hub per month, but that has tapered off. I'd like to get back into it. I, too, have friends (including you) all over the world. And the feedback on writing has been wonderful, too! On a positive monetary note, I'm actually making more passively than I ever have, so that's a nice bonus! I enjoyed your hub.

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      Jackie Lynnley 2 years ago from The Beautiful South

      Waaaaaaa! You can't be serious!

      I know how it does take so much of our time; have to agree that is a good reason to leave especially if making no money. I have been cooling my heals here myself of necessity and probably won't be back like I was but surely you can do that too? Just wean yourself from us Bill; don't pull no cold turkey. OK?

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      ArtDiva 2 years ago

      Why am I not surprised at this? Got the sense from your last article "that these times they are a changing." You, as a professional writer, and from this pesrpective alone, I can't imagine the "time in" for so little, friendship and community aside. A lot of hours could be put more productively to follow your dream. I think your friend is right, it may be time to move on. It may be your time to take your own advice, spread your wings and fly. So glad meeting you, hope you stick around, even if but with less time spent with friends. And, maybe, since only up the next state over, I might drop in and say hello on my travels, if welcome.

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      Amelia Griggs 2 years ago

      Hey billybuc, stay and don't leave. Did you ever think that you might be one of the main links between many other hubbers? I think the amount of articles you have written is amazing but more than that, how much traffic a hub like this one receives within an 8 hour period is very impressive. You have a big following and you are an important person, so even if you choose not to write a lot on Hubpages you could still stay in touch while you move on to do other things.

      I think that is what I will end up doing because I am embarking on bigger writing projects but my heart belongs to Hubpages because it has been my springboard too.

      Plus there are a lot of cross links with other sites too.

      Cheers!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Deb, I really do appreciate that. Thank you! I've tried to grow and become a better writer. You were one of my first followers and I don't forget loyalty like that. Thank you for your friendship.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Genna, that is such a nice thing for you to say. Thank you so much, my friend. I suspect you're stuck with me for quite some time, but I won't wear out my welcome on a daily basis. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Mary. That's what I'm going to do. I'm not burned out on HP, but I need to spend less time here and more time writing books...but I'm not leaving good friends like you.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      He Lil Sis, how ya doing? Who knows, right? I'm not leaving, but I do have to give more time to novel-writing....that's what is calling me and I have to listen to that voice. So fewer articles....fewer days here....but never leave. I love my friends too much to just leave. I don't think HP will ever be a money-making machine, but there is no price on the friendships.

      Hugs, lil Sis...you are great!

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      Deborah Neyens 2 years ago from Iowa

      You have grown more than any other writer I follow here and I am proud to be both one of your early followers and your friend!

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      Genna East 2 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      Bill, I know we’ve all stated this, time and again, but I think it bears repeating. You are one of the reasons we stay with HubPages. :-) I can’t imagine this community without Bill Holland. You are our friend, teacher, inspiration, and just about everything else in between. Quite selfishly, I hope that you do not leave. However, when you do some time in the future, we will certainly understand. Other hubbers have flown off to well-deserved, greener pastures. Such is life, my friend. In the interim, we will continue to enjoy the superior work and camaraderie of BillyBuc, who continues to inspire writers “to spread their wings and fly.” Thank you!

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      Mary Hyatt 2 years ago from Florida

      I started on HP three years ago, and even though I wander to other sites every now and again, I always come back to HP.

      Maybe you should concentrate more on writing your books. Maybe you are getting "burned out" on HP: who knows??

      You've been a good friend on mine for a long time!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you smilealot. I never meant for this to be a goodbye, but just musings about a change in directions that won't allow me to be here as much. I love this community too much to leave forever.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      MizB, only a writer could write that comment. Chuckles and truths abound in your words, and I thank you. I feel the same way about you and this community.

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      Cynthia Sageleaf 2 years ago from Western NC

      Yep...I check my account once every coupla days. :) I'm *so* glad I met you on here. You've become a big brother to me. It's been an interesting three, going on four years (for me anyway), hasn't it?

      I was so zealous about writing here. Writing the perfect article. I burned myself out, though. Then I started blogging and well, I'll admit I was woefully unsuccessful at it - if you look at it from a financial perspective. I was always more successful at HP for that. I needed to write during all this time: I needed words and community so badly.

      Now, I don't know what the future holds. Just when I think I'll write here more or blog more or crank out a book, life seems to take interesting twists and turns. I will have to let you in on the story sometime soon, but suffice it to say that I may be leaving my current gig in favor of being a translator and program director in another county. It would involve writing grants, too. I don't know how my love of writing and Spanish directly fits into everything, but dang it...perhaps really feeling like I'm making a difference again just might. Right now...I'm just tired. After tutoring, teaching, working, going to grad school, and trying to write on the side for two years....I'm just tapped. I want to write more on my blog and here...but each time I sit down to do so, my heart and mind balk at the moment. So, I just am trying to be gentle with myself. Keep working on the writing that I love to do in whatever form it happens to come out. Journaling, that ghost story...all in due time, right?

      But, maybe I'll end up back here. Who knows. I'm not even going to try to predict in. Heck, in a week's time I may find I have this job, have to leave in the middle of the school year, sell my house and settle two hours away. Life. It gets interesting. All the time. :P Hugs, Big Bro.

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      Smilealot 2 years ago

      I think the reason for your frustration is because you love this place and community so much. As the saying goes....we get angry at those we love the most....I think what I'm trying to say is, if you have to go, at least come back once in a while...please. ( I tried to leave, as you know, but I felt the need to come back, and I don't have a fraction of the adoring fans you have here!)....good to hear you give a more positive perspective Bill:-))

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      MizBejabbers 2 years ago

      Hear! Hear! I think you said a lot today, my friend. I want to thank you for being here and being a friend to me. I have learned so much from HubPages and a lot about today's publishing business from you. I needed that, because I was about 25 years behind. I'm still behind because I haven't had the need at this point to learn about SEOs and some of the other new-fangled terms brandished around here like a kid with a plastic sword. That day is coming, however. I had someone just today ask me if I was going to retire this year.

      HP has let me break in to the writer's community and make friends with like-minded people without leaving my own living room. It hasn't cost me a penny like going on writers' retreats do. I haven't had to pay big bucks and eat vegetarian meals (or even Crescent Dragonwagon's cornbread) to meet great people like you. So, here's to you, and I hope you stick around for a long time.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Deborah. I suspect that's exactly what I will do. I appreciate the suggestion and thanks for stopping by.

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      Deborah Morrison 2 years ago from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

      Bill, thank you for sharing your honest experience as a writer on Hubpages. I also read your previous article that outlined some of the problems that you were having with your Hubpages experience. I would suggest that you do not have to make an 'either or ' decision. Perhaps you can move ahead with writing your novel, and then still write articles for Hubpages, but much less frequently. Once you have met your goal of 1,000 articles (which is highly impressive) then you have a great collection of article to build on ... perhaps just one article a month, or one article per season, or one article per year ... just a suggestion and something for you to consider.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Brad, that is very kind of you to say. I have received far more than I have given here. You, and many others like you, have given me exactly what I needed as a writer and a human being...acceptance. So thank you!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You are very welcome, helpmeinpoor. Glad it was helpful.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lea, you won't be rid of me. I just need to back off a bit and concentrate on novel-writing. Never fear, you will still hear about the quail and chickens, and when that book of yours is completed, I'll be ready.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Manatita. I didn't mean for this to be goodbye...just a focus on other things in addition to HP.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...I ran out of dog turds, Mel, so nothing but sweetness today. Thank you my friend. I'll be around...not as often, but still that fly on the wall you can't get rid of.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Blossom, I understand completely. I am appreciative whenever you take the time to stop by. Thank you!

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      bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

      billybuc

      A 1000 hubs is quite a milestone, as is 1 million vieThese stats are amazing and yet they don't come with any real monetary rewards.

      That is really the question for hp to answer, followed by how did all these hubs and views help hp and google?

      I never even signed up for the money rewards, and a good thing because my stats wouldn't get me a shiny new penny.

      I know that it wasn't your goal to make money here, but and the experience you mention is worth a lot, but the hp scoring for hubs, and hubbers doesn't relate to any writing skill.

      The writing skill should relate to the kinds of stats that you have achieved here. I would like to see the scoring changed to reflect hubs, views, and comments to replace the current mystery algorithm used by hp.

      I say that knowing that my score would be single digits, but that is OK.

      Thanks to you and your wife for making a difference here on hp.

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      Melody Byron 2 years ago from New York, NY

      As a new member of HP, this article gave me lots of insight on how to utilize this platform. Thank you!

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      Sparklea 2 years ago from Upstate New York

      Billy Buc, I SO dread if you leave, it will be one of the saddest days of my life. I PRAY you at least remain on FB. And let us know where your greener pastures will be. But growth means moving on and I get that.

      I always look for you when I am online and I will continue to do so. AND, when I finish my book, I will be asking for your input. That would be the most important aspect of completing my book. Praying for you all every day and hope you have recovered from your all nighter with the quail birth. God bless you and wherever you go I will follow. I thank God for you. Sparklea :)

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      manatita44 2 years ago

      Ah, Bill, sounds like you may be heading for greener pastures. Still, good of you to see the positive side of them too. They do help. I have written a Hub about this, too.

      You're certainly a necessary voice on Hub Pages, and perhaps they themselves would be sad to see you go. Folks love you and your support Team also. More Joy and Light, Bro.

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      Mel Carriere 2 years ago from San Diego California

      This site is strangely addictive and they use numbers as barbs in your side that beg you to write just one more hub to see if you can push that number. But all that aside I have learned a lot here on Hub Pages, from you and from other writers that has helped me expand and develop my web-writing presence. Whether this will bear fruit or not remains to be seen, but I think it will if I am patient and persistence.

      I, for one, really hope you stay. In the meantime I am glad you have backed away from the ledge a little bit and are not throwing dog turds today. Great hub!

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      Bronwen Scott-Branagan 2 years ago from Victoria, Australia

      It would be sad to see you go, but if you do, I wish you well. I haven't been very active here lately - responding to all my friends' work can be so time consuming and take a big bite out of what I write in my books. Blessings.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Michelle, you can't get rid of me. :) We will stay in touch, no matter what direction we both take. That's what friendships are all about, and you are a friend.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you pages, and your friend request has been accepted. Friendships...that's what it has been about for me since the first week here. They are valued greatly and always will be.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cristen, I expect it, and it will come back at you, as you expect....and pictures will be taken, and laughs and hugs shared, and it will be a grand time my friend. Thank you!

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      Michelle Scoggins 2 years ago from Fresno, CA

      Well Bill I certainly understand your stance, I have not been as active with HP as I once was. I have not published in a few weeks ( I checked this morning). It is unfortunate that this site is a doubled edged sword for us writers, we are great for each other but our hard work is only recognized by those of us that interact and fall short of monetary reward. So I get it.

      You are definitely ready to fly and place your work elsewhere as Cristen mentioned. You have been a great supporter for me and one that I really connect with so I will follow you wherever your journey may lead. I could not asked for a better community of people and if I relied on this as a source of income I would be out of here too.

      I am excited to watch you as you go and where it leads you. Just know that you have many followers that are loyal and are rooting for you. Who knows we may rub elbows again somewhere but no doubt will stay in touch.

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      Dennis L. Page 2 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border

      I am what one would call a fair weather Hubber. I haven't written anything on this site for quite some time and yet I still pop in to check on things. I only happened upon this article because I noticed my good Facebook friend Nellianna Hays had liked your post. Like you, I have gained many worldwide friends that have lasted throughout the years because of various writing sites. However, writing on these sites for me has never been about making money because the harsh reality is nobody will get rich in these venues. I tip my hat to you and the countless hours you have dedicated to the writing community. I am now on my way over to Facebook to put in a friend request so I can follow you there, as well.

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      Cristen Iris 2 years ago from Boise, Idaho

      Bill, I'm so glad you wrote this piece. It echoes my thoughts and "warm fuzzies" about HP. Those things make the decision of staying or leaving all the more difficult. I totally agree that HP is a springboard for writers.

      I can't think of any better place to start than here. I too am grateful for every person I've encountered and every article I've read or comments I've gotten.

      And I'm so glad that you were here when I got here!

      Everything has it's positives and negatives. A balanced, rational approach is needed. You provided that.

      You'll be adding one more real live human HP visitor to your list soon (this year I hope). I will give you just as much crap in person as I do online. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Melissa, too funny, but a bit unsettling too. LOL Kidding...yes, I'm pretty easy to find online, and I'm counting on my friends hanging in there with me.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Mike, we'll talk, my friend. I need to finish this novel and then I can think of other avenues. Thanks for the faith you have in me.

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      Melissa Propp 2 years ago from Minnesota

      Way to look on the bright side! If/when you do leave hubpages, you had better leave a forwarding address. Of course, we have your website and blog and facebook...we know how to hunt you down! :)

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      Old Poolman 2 years ago

      Bill, you know you can't get away from us that easily. I still believe there is a "Writers School" sometime in your future. It could bring in more bucks than you make writing for Hub Pages, and the world would be a better place because of what you do. We need to talk about this one day soon my friend.