The Muslims in Dearborn do not get it . . .

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  1. TexasLadyJuanita profile image69
    TexasLadyJuanitaposted 6 years ago

    What I would say about the Muslims rallying against our First Amendment in Dearborn, Michigan: They don't understand that the First Amendment protects Americans from a state religion. The religion of Islam, if nothing else, is a state religion. If they want a state religion, this is the wrong country to want to live in.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I would say that Dearborn's authorities dropped the ball since they're even allowing such an event at their Civic Center.     There are many things and many ideas and many political theories that should be nipped in the bud when they run entirely opposite to common patriotism and common decency.   
      That's the same group who, in 2009, were already picketing in the streets and outright saying they admired Osama Bin Ladin and that they'd like to see Israel wiped off the map & a mushroom cloud over it.

    2. pisean282311 profile image60
      pisean282311posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      muslims rallying against first amendment is obvious...instead of muslims ,usa had to understand it...Islam is political religion...sharia is their goal...u like it or not, they are honest about it...sharia is what they think is best possible system...

  2. Mighty Mom profile image87
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Here is how USA Today covered the protest.
    Sounds like it was interdenominational and centered on PEACE and TOLERANCE.
    Denouncing the Muslim violence.
    Is there a different rally that you're talking about?

    DEARBORN -- Sending a message of peace and unity, hundreds of people rallied Friday afternoon on the steps of Michigan's largest mosque to protest the anti-Islam film that has sparked violence around the world.

    Under a banner that read "Repel Evil With Good," a dozen Muslim and Christian leaders spoke to the crowd at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn. They slammed both the controversial film, titled "Innocence of Muslims," and the extreme response that has erupted around the Muslim world over the past week.

    The rally was the first anti-film protest in the United States, Muslim leaders said.

    "We're gathered here to show our unity," said Imam Hassan Al-Qazwini, the religious leader of the Islamic Center. "The movie ... does not represent Christians ... it represents a bunch of bigots, liars, and hateful people. We're against bigotry and hatred.

    "This is a hate movie ... please respect our holy prophet" Muhammad.

    At the same time, Al-Qazwini and other speakers criticized the violent response to the film by some Muslims.

    "What you saw in Libya and Pakistan, the violent reaction ... does not represent the whole Muslim community," said Al-Qazwini, referring to the escalating violence in those areas and the recent murder of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

    In Pakistan on Friday, at least 15 people died and 168 were injured during anti-film protests, according to The Associated Press.

    "I ask Muslims to be cool," Al-Qazwini said. "There is no need to get excited."

    The rally drew a range of Muslim leaders, both Sunni and Shia of different ethnicities. Christian ministers from Baptist, Catholic, Episcopal, Lutheran and Methodist denominations also spoke to those gathered.

    The Rev. Ed Rowe of Central United Methodist, a historic church in Detroit, soke out against the people who created the anti-Islam film.

    "They are responsible and blood is on their hands," Rowe said. He said people like the filmmakers should be locked up for instigating violence.

    But he also urged a peaceful response to the film.

    "We will not become violent," Rowe said. "If you respond to violence with violence, you become the very thing you hate."

    The Rev. Charles Williams of Detroit echoed that message, saying "violence is not the answer. Peace is the way."

    Robert Bruttell, chairman of the Interfaith Leadership Council of Metropolitan Detroit, said that the positive relations in Detroit among different religions can serve as a model for the rest of the world at a time of tension.

    "We're working hard to build a community together," Bruttell said.

    Hassan Chokr, 25, of Dearborn Heights attended the rally. He said Muslims should "fight back with love" when their religion is attacked.

    If Muslims respond with violence, "you give them (anti-Islam people) gas -- fuel to the fire," Chokr said.

    Michael Hovey, an interfaith leader for the Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit, also spoke at the rally on behalf of Archbishop of Detroit Allen Vigneron.

    Hovey quoted from remarks made last week in Lebanon by Pope Benedict XVI, who spoke about the importance of religious freedom and peace.

    Dawud Walid, director of the Michigan branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that violent Muslim protesters are actually acting against Islam.

    "We can't take the law into our hands," Walid said. "The prophet Muhammad never returned insults with injury."

    1. TexasLadyJuanita profile image69
      TexasLadyJuanitaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      "Breitbart reported:

      Islamic leaders in Dearborn, Mich. are holding a rally this Friday night to build momentum for the passage of laws that prohibit speech or expression that hurts “the religious feelings of Muslims.”
      There you have it. We must never pass any laws against our First Amendment rights. What is next? Burning books? Then what?

      Put together in response to the film “Innocence of Muslims,” rally organizer Tarek Baydoun said, “We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to sow the seeds of hate and discord against the religious beliefs of others.” Rally co-organizer Osama Siblani added, “There is a need for deterrent legal measures against those individuals or groups that want to damage relations between people, spread hate and incite violence.”

      In other words, it appears one of the goals of the rally will be the eventual creation of blasphemy laws: laws that would reflect an international movement toward banning speech that is critical of Islam or Mohammed."

      We must never allow our First Amendment rights to be changed. What would be next? Burning books? The terror attacks were done for a reason - they had been planned out in advance = the goal is this attack on free speech. It will get worse unless America takes a stand.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image80
        Uninvited Writerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        That is the root of your misinformation "Breitbart reported"

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    Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago

    , rally organizer Tarek Baydoun says that so-called blasphemy laws are necessary to prevent speech that hurts the "the religious feelings of Muslims."



    That's the quote from the info I found online from a newspaper quote.

    Honestly, maybe there should be some "blasphemy laws" set up.    (OH WAIT---we used to have those in our common laws of public decency etc.!    But alas, now anyone can spout all kinds of carp in public and be covered under "free speech" and "tolerance".)

    Guess what's happening??-----When decent Americans no longer have the right to call out people on public insults and slander and blasphemy,   then the Muslim community gets a leg-up to inserting their Islamic "blasphemy" laws.     When will people get a clue and stop tolerating every anti-Christian, anti-American idea that gets spouted on our streets and on our tvs and in our schools??!

  4. Mighty Mom profile image87
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Aside from breitbart.com and one or two other right-wing blog sites, there is no news coverage of this.
    However, I did find this article about Dearborn being a mecca (pun intended) for America's burgeoning anti-Islamist movement.
    Looks like there's lots of concern over Sharia law there.
    http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighb … lims/3360/

 
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