Are you fully recovered from Penguin and subsequent updates?

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  1. Cardisa profile image89
    Cardisaposted 11 years ago

    When Panda hit I was a newbie so was not affected directly. Buy When the Penguin swooped down on us I was badly affected. I though those hubs that were doing great would never fully recover. The hubs I saw taking off and earning me money were new hubs. My best performers pre-penguin were struggling. Then gradually hub number one started to climb again and I can report that my best performing hub has recovered 100% and doing better than before. Others have recovered by between 50 - 80% but I am keeping my finger crossed.

    Have your Panda hit hubs recovered fully?

    1. ptosis profile image68
      ptosisposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hell no. I believe it's beyond my control, with backlinks no longer 'count' and Page Rank no longer count (my domain is PR3) My most traffic hub is a PR2 and this is what it looks like:

      I believe part of the reason is the new profiles. I regret going over to the new profile and unable to go back to the old profile where I had more control and folks could search JUST ME.

      - one pissed off hubber

      1. profile image0
        summerberrieposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Off topic, but enjoyed your photo gallery hub, well done! Did not comment but voted it up, ect....

        I've often wondered about the new profile page, too. My views dropped around the time I switched as well. They are improving now but still unpredictable.

  2. carol7777 profile image76
    carol7777posted 11 years ago

    I am still new enough not to notice a difference.  Most of my hubs are static and some get views.  Not always sure how it all works.

    1. teaches12345 profile image78
      teaches12345posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm with you on this one, Carol.  I haven't a clue yet as to what happened and is happening.  We'll learn through time I guess.

  3. Dannytaylor02 profile image71
    Dannytaylor02posted 11 years ago

    im new enough not to to know what panda and penguin are?? haha

  4. mbyL profile image67
    mbyLposted 11 years ago

    Yes, I recovered some weeks ago and not only this I have now over 100% more views than I used to have it before!

  5. shampa sadhya profile image78
    shampa sadhyaposted 11 years ago

    I don't understand Panda and Penguin factors but what I have noticed is that visits are very low. It is actually disheartening. God knows when it will recover!

  6. lobobrandon profile image89
    lobobrandonposted 11 years ago

    Panda and Penguin updates, especially Panda keep happening at least once a month. So, there's not much that can be said. But my traffic is getting back to normal.

  7. paradigmsearch profile image59
    paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
  8. Cardisa profile image89
    Cardisaposted 11 years ago

    Sorry I am just returning guys. Maybe I can offer some tips on how I turned my hubs around.

    The hubs that fell to rock bottom after the big Panda, not the small updates each week, these hubs had to be looked at.

    Here are some tips:

    1) If you were using the auto link feature or hub Karma feature that hubpages used to have, you need to go back and remove all the links from those hubs. Not only that, you need to double check your link sources to make sure they are from reputable sources.
    2) If you have product links you need to do tow things (a) double check to make sure your product links are relevant to your hubs and (b) If you have more than 2 links per 500 words remove them. Google will view your content as overly promotional if you have too many products on your page.
    3)Make sure you are not using keywords too many times in your article. Forget the 2 - 5% Ratio and just write naturally.
    4) Place your primary keyword to the left of your title.
    5) Never leave and article too long without editing it. Find a few lines to tweak. Trust me no article is perfect. Change around some capsule, add something different. Check spelling and grammar again and again.
    6) Don't fluff your article with irrelevant information in order to make it long. I see this quite often here on HP especially for recipes. Add just the right amount of personal touch to give your readers a sense that you know what you are saying then get to the point and stick to it. Never let your readers have to scroll too far to get what they need.

    1. shampa sadhya profile image78
      shampa sadhyaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Cardisa, Thanks. I will definitely try to look into my hubs according to your suggestion. I want to ask you one small question that I use 6 Ebay product links for the hubs which are around 1200 to 1500 words long, is it O. Kay?

      1. Cardisa profile image89
        Cardisaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Hi Shampa, that should be okay. If you find one product is getting more sales than the others, then just keep that one, but 6 per 1200 words should be okay. I am really talking about hubs with 8 or more products with less than 800 words. These hubs often look crowded with product capsules.

        1. shampa sadhya profile image78
          shampa sadhyaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Cardisa, Thanks a lot for answering my query. Your detailed explanation seems to be helpful.

    2. Xenonlit profile image61
      Xenonlitposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, Cardisa! This is the first time I have read something that I can work with. I will be looking into this.

    3. Ms Dee profile image87
      Ms Deeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Cardisa! The weekend I read your tips here and found there was one I'd not known about. "If you have more than 2 links per 500 words remove them." I went through ALL my hubs Monday and cut down the number of Amazon ads accordingly. Now, about 72 hrs later my traffic has risen almost back up to the point it was on Nov 14, 2012. I don't know the timing of the Penguines or Pandas, but something happened that day causing a 55-60% drop in traffic which never fully recovered until today. Thanks so much for sharing these tips, and the one about Amazon ads in particular!! smile

  9. dhannyya profile image80
    dhannyyaposted 10 years ago

    I was highly affected by penguin in April...later i found out the reason why I was of my hubs was copied...when i unpublished that hub my traffic returned within hours....later on September 28th because of an update from hubpages my traffic again...i was also lighly affected by panda update on sep 27th....october was bad...but i found a recovery on Nov 5..i came to know that there was again a panda update on Nov 5..

    this is a play of luck..i feel so....but hubpages is the best platform to write....dont quit...if you are affected you will recover in the next update...

    1. Dame Scribe profile image57
      Dame Scribeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Why on earth would you let somebody make 'earnings' from your hard work? yikes all you had to do was file a DMCA and request the 'offending' site remove your article and 'G' would've slapped them down in the SERP's too. Take that same article, rewrite it and repost. smile Don't run away when somebody copies your hard work.

      1. Cardisa profile image89
        Cardisaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Dame Scribe is right. Next time you ask for help as soon as you find one of your articles copied. Don't unpublish.  I have had tons of work stolen and never removed or rewrite any of them. HP has your date and time tagged when first published so you can prove the article is yours.

  10. safiq ali patel profile image68
    safiq ali patelposted 10 years ago

    My hubs must have passed Panda and Penguin because hub scores and traffic have improved since.

    1. dwachira profile image79
      dwachiraposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      A lot of confusion is on after the Google Penguin on how to link build for backlinks. Certainly, links from low quality sites are a NO NO to Google and even if you have backlinks from authority sites, they have to be relevant to your content. Google has tightened its algorithm on backlinking. The following article explains why and how a site can recover if it was hit by the Penguin update. … ilding-SEO

  11. waynet profile image68
    waynetposted 10 years ago

    Well getting beaten up by a Panda was quite embarrassing to be honest and then a Penguin....Psssh time I am gonna get medieval on their ass!

    1. viryabo profile image94
      viryaboposted 10 years agoin reply to this


  12. Howard S. profile image89
    Howard S.posted 10 years ago

    My account has gone up and down radically every few weeks, apparently due to Panda. Penguin did not affect me unless positively, which wasn't supposed to be possible. Something else happened in December that took down certain hubs while leaving others--I never figured out any rhyme or reason.

    So about 10 days ago I began reducing Amazon ads per your guideline. It made no difference. What used to be my very best hub, successfully selling expensive Amazon products, is still getting only 0-1 page view per day. On the contrary, a hub that has recently zoomed ahead still has 11 ads for 1800 words (I removed 5, but was reluctant to go too far as long as it's still working well!).


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