Please can you give me some input on this

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   TessSchlesingerposted 2 years ago

   https://hubpages.com/travel/Olvera-Spai … in-the-Sun
   
   Too many photos?
   Too little text?
   
   I could write up some history of the area.

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      snakeslaneposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Tess, You have some amazing photos in this piece. My only suggestion with regard to presentation is to consider using thumbnails to tighten it up a bit. An example where this is done very effectively is in this photo essay by Ann Carr:
        https://letterpile.com/personal-essays/ … ham-On-Sea

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         TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you. Haven't thumbnails been outlawed by hubpages?

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            Marisa Wrightposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I don't think so.  However I must admit, I never use them.  I'm not sure how good they would look on mobile, which is how most people view our Hubs.

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               TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Okay. thanks.

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            snakeslaneposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Um, this article was just published two weeks ago, so apparently not. I don't view anything on mobile so hadn't considered that. Marisa probably knows best. 

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               Marisa Wrightposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               We're being told by HubPages that it's vital to check the "Mobile" preview when we write Hubs, because the great majority of our readers see how our Hubs that way.  That's why they got rid of the right-floated capsules (grrrr....).   
               
               Tess might be confusing thumbnails with the half-width capsules.
               
               The only reason I've never used the thumbnails is that I've never had a Hub which was too photo-heavy, so I've never had to confront that problem.  Thinking about it, if I do have what I'd consider "too many" photos for a Hub, I'd write another Hub to use them.
               
               Personally, I rarely bother to click on thumbnails anyway, so I suppose I've assumed other readers might not either - so I guess I feel that if I consign a photo to a thumbnail, it's "wasted"  and not being put to a good enough use.  But that's just my opinion.

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                  DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  That is an interesting comment, because when several of my hubs were edited by hub pro that took my images and made them into thumbnails. I added a lot of images to my hubs on dog breed selection since if someone is considering a new breed they need to see plenty of images.
                  So do you think it worthwhile to go back and edit those hubs to return the images to the way they were?

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Like I said, I've never liked thumbnails much, so I haven't experimented with them.  Maybe someone else will chime in who has more experience of them.  However, I'd say the thumbnails would be OK in the situation you describe, because the reader has a strong reason to click on the thumbnails and look at them carefully.

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                     Sherry Hewinsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     I like to use thumbnails if I'm showing a step by step process. I think people will click to look at those.

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                        Marisa Wrightposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        I thought I'd play around with them and tried to add a few to an existing Hub, but I can't even see how to do it?

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                           snakeslaneposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           In the photo capsule, on the left, at the top there's a box for display style. Click down to find thumbnail.
                           I just tried it and a thumbnail of my photo popped up on the page.
                           
                           Edit: And they look not too bad in the mobile preview. Cool.

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                  snakeslaneposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks Marisa, I understand checking the mobile view when writing a Hub. But I'm not able to check the mobile view when looking at an article written by someone else. Or is there a way to do that?

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      kenneth averyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      @snakeslane:
      I may be a bit out there to offer you any input, but I feel very comfortable at using Two photos if the text is supported. But then again, I like to eat Parmesan cheese on sour cream and onion chips.

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         snakeslaneposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Hey Kenneth, Not sure if you are replying to my post or Tess, but glad you're out there. And pass the chips!

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            kenneth averyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            @snakeslane -- Thank you so much. By the way, I have never commented on your pen name, snakeslane, I LOVE IT! And you can have all of the delish chips that I have.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago

   I think it looks good, but personally I'd start with the "Views from Olvera" section as your first paragraph instead of the current one.   Follow it with the image of you on the moonlit night. Those two things establish your credentials to write about the place, and gives the reader confidence in your opinions.
   
   I would immediately follow that with the "Backpackers' delight" paragraph.  Then your paragraph about retirees (with a suitable heading), followed by the image of the guitarist - the caption about the English community will give retirees confidence.
   
   From that point on, you can start posting images and information, arranged however you like.  Don't forget to include your original first paragraph somewhere. In my opinion, the section about the pueblo blanca policy should be right at the end, with the images of the houses - for me that was the least interesting part of the piece.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks l. Excellent advice. Will fo.

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   Will Apseposted 2 years ago

   I look for quick info.
   
   I want to know:
   Where a place is (with a map).
   What kind of people visit/live there
   What there is to do -- swimming, walking, climbing, horse-riding, bandit-dodging, whatever
   Places to visit -- markets, museums, parks etc
   Nightlife
   Hotels (with prices)
   Climate
   Nearby towns
   I also like the history (in brief)
   Best to give old folks an idea of what they can do, what kids can do etc, etc
   
   And I like it in easy-to-scan, well labelled sections. But you know, that is just the way I am.
   
   For real traffic it might be better to go for something like 'castles in southern Spain', or 'white hill towns Spain'...
   
   Google Searches related to 'white hill towns spain':
   
   white villages spain map
   white towns spain map
   pueblos blancos spain map
   pueblos blancos map
   white towns of andalusia
   arcos de la frontera spain
   pueblos blancos route
   route of the white towns
   
   There is not much competition for those terms, incidentally.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Brilliant advice. Thanks Between you and Marisa, I have a lot do do. Truly appreciated.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago

   No, I don't think there is - except on your own phone, of course.

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      snakeslaneposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      So, I know this is a lot to ask, but if you get a moment, anytime it's convenient, could you, would you check the link to Ann Carr article and tell me what you see on mobile view with regard to thumbnail situation, I'm curious. No pressure...

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         Marisa Wrightposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I have an old, fairly small phone so I'm probably not the best judge. 
         
         On my phone, the thumbnails are pretty useless.  I can click on them to see them full-size - however the thumbnails are so small, I can't tell whether they're worth making the effort, so I probably wouldn't bother, I'd just go on reading.  On an iphone or tablet, they might be OK.

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            snakeslaneposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for doing that.

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