This Week's Network Site Migrations (9/14 – 9/18)

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  1. samanthacubbison profile image88
    samanthacubbisonposted 10 months ago

    https://hubstatic.com/15204155_f1024.jpg

    We are excited to announce that LevelSkip, Holidappy, TurboFuture, and FeltMagnet have been rendered by our front-end publishing platform and are currently live! ReelRundown and WanderWisdom are soon to follow!

    1. EricFarmer8x profile image98
      EricFarmer8xposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      I am very curious to see what the effects of these changes will be.

      I suppose for now I will keep publishing new hubs.

    2. Robert Sacchi profile image88
      Robert Sacchiposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      What are the advantages of the site migration?

      1. profile image0
        Marisa Writesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        The advantage is that HubPages will be on the same servers and using the same platform as the rest of Maven (its parent company), which will save operating costs for them.

        1. Robert Sacchi profile image88
          Robert Sacchiposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Good for Maven but neutral or bad for the authors?

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            Marisa Writesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            On present evidence . . .

        2. DrMark1961 profile image96
          DrMark1961posted 10 months agoin reply to this

          As far as I know servers do not care what platform you are using. The only reason I can figure for this change is that they are doing this because Maven told them to do so since they would be able to fill the page with more advertisements.
          I do not think they are saving operating costs but they are making more money at this point.

          1. profile image0
            Marisa Writesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            They have moved to the Maven servers as well as to the Maven platform, so that is saving them money.

            Once everything is migrated to the Maven platform, they no longer need a server room at HP headquarters - if indeed HP headquarters survives at all - and they can sack the HubPages programmers.

            I said this a long time ago, Dr Mark - you could have a very successful website if you moved all your articles to your own website on Wordpress.com.   Might be worth starting to think about it.

            1. samanthacubbison profile image88
              samanthacubbisonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              There are no HubPages-specific programmers. Everyone works for the Maven at large. There is a lot of collaboration between teams.

              1. JerryFisher profile image95
                JerryFisherposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Samantha, Maven must be aware that presumably all articles, certainly my own have fallen off a cliff in Google ranking since you have done this migration. Have they got a plan to somehow get Google to rerank them after this is finished? For one I can no longer be bothered yet again writing fresh edits for mine for re ranking. I've done that many times with success in the past only to see them drop like a stone when only Maven had something to do with this and not myself.
                And why do you think Google has done this? Do you think the sites are taking too long to load because of the enormous video, or, perhaps ad stuffing?

                1. DrMark1961 profile image96
                  DrMark1961posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  I think you are correct in that Google has done this because of increased load time. I also think the increased bounce rate is terrible for our sites and Google is going to continue to lower their page rank.
                  Even if Maven fixes all of the mistakes, which is doubtful, the pages are unlikely to ever move back up.

            2. DrMark1961 profile image96
              DrMark1961posted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Thanks Marisa prior to this change I really did not think it was worth the effort. Now I am seriously thinking about it.

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                Marisa Writesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                The main thing is to be sure you have a copy of every Hub, just in case. 

                If you decide to go ahead and need some help, I've got lots of time on my hands right now and would be happy to do the basic setup for you, no charge. Just PM me.

              2. lobobrandon profile image89
                lobobrandonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                I am spending this weekend looking into a platform to set up my own site for gardening articles with multiple authors in case things go south and people need a new site. Github with Jekyll is what I am looking into. Seems a bit complicated, but I guess I will figure it out.

                1. DrMark1961 profile image96
                  DrMark1961posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  This seems like it is turning into a self-inflicted Panda wound. I was not looking forward to setting up a site but that sounds like a good option.

                  1. lobobrandon profile image89
                    lobobrandonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    Yeah setting one up is a good option. There's also HTML code you can place which tells Google there is another version out there that is the original, so you can have copies of your hubs online without affecting your traffic, all while letting your site age like a good wine. If something goes wrong, you just strip out this one line of code from every article and your site is the new home of all your work.

                    Medium does this a lot. People can copy entire articles and place the original source which Medium puts into the right HTML markup.

                    You have plenty and definitely enough to have a successful site on your own.

          2. JerryFisher profile image95
            JerryFisherposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            Looks to me like Maven (and us) have copped a huge ranking penalty because of that unbelievably ugly video ad across the top of the page. I was just reading this under Google SEO guidelines:

            Avoid distracting advertisements
            We expect advertisements to be visible. However, you should not let the advertisements distract users or prevent them from consuming the site content. For example, advertisements, supplement contents, or interstitial pages (pages displayed before or after the content you are expecting) that make it difficult to use the website

  2. Robert Sacchi profile image88
    Robert Sacchiposted 10 months ago

    When I go into a Hub that's on a network site, SPINDITTY.COM for example, I don't see a way to add comments.

    1. ChitrangadaSharan profile image91
      ChitrangadaSharanposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Regarding comments—I have asked this question earlier too, in another thread. Without the comments section, there can’t be any interaction or feedback from the readers, which I believe is important for the writers. Recently, I have not been able to comment on some of the wonderful articles, and that is disappointing.
      Secondly, the profile image of the author is not visible.
      Hope someone clarifies.
      Thank you.

      1. Robert Sacchi profile image88
        Robert Sacchiposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        You are right.  Reader feedback is an essential element to making HubPages a good place to post articles.  It helps improve products overall and increases everyone's body of knowledge.  it would terrible if the comment feature is not available.

  3. Glimmer Twin Fan profile image96
    Glimmer Twin Fanposted 10 months ago

    Regarding FeltMagnet...Love the look of it however....

    A couple of things, and I'm a bit biased because I write a lot on crafts, is that I wish that the article pics on the desktop version were vertical instead of horizontal.  I think that when people are looking at crafts (and other sites, like recipes) readers want to see a larger image.   That "eye candy" draws them in to an article.  Unfortunately that narrow pic doesn't do much for any of the articles.  It does look better on the mobile.

    Also, on the home page of FeltMagnet, it used to be that there were sections (like Painting) that had a small box that a reader could click on to take them to that area of interest.  It seems to be a bit more disorganized now.  There's the top menu, but once you scroll past, it's not easy to find various categories. 

    Finally, curious what the algorithm is for how many articles show up on the category menu pages (i.e. Textiles & Sewing or Painting).  There are not very many articles on that page and it is not real obvious how to navigate to a subcategory such as Quilting.

    Edited to add...Is there a plan to make quizzes non-static or are they staying the way they are?  Mine are placed near the beginning of my articles and it looks kind of weird so see that before pics and text. That will help me decide if I want to get rid of them. Thanks.

    I will say that once in an article, the photos look much much much better!!!  They seem to be larger and sharper and that helps with viewer experience on articles like this.  Thank you for improving the pics.

    1. ChitrangadaSharan profile image91
      ChitrangadaSharanposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Same questions. Following the thread.

    2. samanthacubbison profile image88
      samanthacubbisonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Hello,

      Comments have been disabled until further notice. They are not supported on our new platform, so we must manually find a way to reinstate them.

      On the main page, photos are square, so I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about category pages? It is odd that it changes. Again, something that came with the platform. We do not have any plans to change the layout anytime soon, but it has been brought up internally.

      Similarly, category placement and quizzes have also been brought up, but no plans currently to change anything. I'm sorry I don't have a more concrete update.

      We are working on different algorithms to feature different articles, but there is a set number of articles that will appear on each page.

      1. Glimmer Twin Fan profile image96
        Glimmer Twin Fanposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Thanks Samantha - With respect to the pics, I was talking about the pics in the category pages.

        1. theraggededge profile image98
          theraggededgeposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          I'm seeing square.

          I wish they were a bit smaller so there were more articles visible.

        2. samanthacubbison profile image88
          samanthacubbisonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Gotcha.

  4. Shesabutterfly profile image95
    Shesabutterflyposted 10 months ago

    I know ad placement is not changing, but are staff looking into the large ads at the bottom before and throughout the related articles section? Reelrundown and WanderWisdom have the same issue that Dengarden has. Some of the ads in that section are too large causing articles to overlay the ad which makes certain article titles hard to read.

    1. samanthacubbison profile image88
      samanthacubbisonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      I haven't heard anything about that, no. But I'll ask.

      Edit: So we can understand what you're talking about, please send a screenshot to team@hubpages.com if you can.

  5. Sam Shepards profile image93
    Sam Shepardsposted 10 months ago

    Don't know yet, I like the design better, but having polls disappear and youtube video's in the articles show up as a gray square without the video + a 20-25% drop in readership right after migration of pethelpful (probably, because some articles of mine were on popular lists and right after migration they weren't on the main page anymore). I hope things will be ok again in a month or two.

    1. Sam Shepards profile image93
      Sam Shepardsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      It does seem earnings per view/click are better.

      1. Sam Shepards profile image93
        Sam Shepardsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        I was wrong, it was a couple of days and now declining steadily since migration. Will wait for a turnaround by Christmas.

        1. Robert Sacchi profile image88
          Robert Sacchiposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Any possible explanation for the decline other than the migration?

          1. JerryFisher profile image95
            JerryFisherposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            My guess is your Google ranking. Since they slapped a humungous video across the top I think Google has taken exception to this ad stuffing and sent all sites spiralling downwards. I know my most popular article has gone from page 2 on Google to page nowhere since these changes. Makes me really mad because I've built that article up over time to over 11,000 careful words so it would rank well and now its completely tanked. The whole article looks like a complete mess starting with a huge video ad that immediately is an off putter for a reader. Then (my article is how to sell cars) they have to step past completely irrelevant ads like bad breath, with the most grotesque close up in someone's mouth full of yellow teeth and cavities.

            1. Robert Sacchi profile image88
              Robert Sacchiposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              I understand your anger.  HubPages often cuts out my Amazon ads, which are article related, supposedly to keep the ranking up in Google.  What they did with the migration apparently helped HubPages at your expense.

        2. ChitrangadaSharan profile image91
          ChitrangadaSharanposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, the page views have declined considerably. Around 60 to 70 percent in most of my articles, since the migration.

          1. Robert Sacchi profile image88
            Robert Sacchiposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            It seems they caused much grief for the authors will little benefit.

      2. sallybea profile image98
        sallybeaposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Definitely, I have not seen it better.  It really is frustrating though that the UK pages are not being shown at their best.  Often there is no video at the top of the page and the ones that are showing are not relevant to the hub.  The Amazon Ads are still not being shown in the UK.

        1. theraggededge profile image98
          theraggededgeposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          My earnings are down to a third of what they were at their best, and my traffic is half.

          It's depressing.

  6. theraggededge profile image98
    theraggededgeposted 10 months ago

    The new sites are still not displaying properly to people in the UK. All that needs to happen is that you add a proper privacy notice in line with GDPR. Any indication if this will be implemented soon?

    1. samanthacubbison profile image88
      samanthacubbisonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      It's being worked on, but I haven't been given a date.

    2. sallybea profile image98
      sallybeaposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      The lack of ads is definitely impacting on Amazon earnings, not a single sale so far this month.

  7. Jodah profile image91
    Jodahposted 10 months ago

    Hopefully I don’t have anything new moved to those Network sites until comments are enabled.

  8. theraggededge profile image98
    theraggededgeposted 10 months ago

    Exemplore has gone over - traffic is falling even lower than previously. Down to half of last year's.

 
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