colluding hubbers

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   xobliamposted 13 years ago

   This idea was just passing through my mind and I was wondering if anyone else had thought of something similar.
   
   The idea is simple. I was wondering if a group of hubbers got together to write theme hubs and interconnected those hubs through links if it wouldn't pay off with the seo bots.
   
   Is such a concept ethical in the hub community and is it even legal ?
   
   If it is possible then I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in tackling such an experiment in group writing ?
   
   Collusion is simply a strategy of grouping together in the hope of getting better results.
   
   Colluding hubbers might be a worthwhile experience.
   
   What do you think ?

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      Super Chefposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There was a 60 day hubber challenge around 4 months ago and was very effective if you look for sunforged it will be in her profile. Also just search for 60 day challenge. Details are there of how they did it and what happened. I believe this is very legal.

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   Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

   I recall seeing a forum post by Paul Deeds saying that HubPages discourages collusive linking, which could violate the Google webmaster guidelines.
   
   Edit - here is the reference:
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/49303#post1126859

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      sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The original question refers to interlinking of hubs. Which actually would have no relevance to any links provided(I didnt actually read)..
      
      1. We are not webmasters , we are sharecroppers (in our capacity as Hub writers) so "webmaster" guidelines not relevant (in this case)
      
      2. Interlinking of hubs as far as google would see is simply inlinking within a single domain ..whether you do that automatically via the HP feature in the sidebar , using a plugin on your wordpress site that links related content or just create links to pages that your buddies wrote ...your still just inlinking within the domain. All Hp writers are one webmaster to a SE.
      
      
      3. Actually, was not part of the 60 day challenge - we just used the hubmob model to integrate each other for easy navigation, no intentional, planned text linking was performed, I dont think it would actually be very worthwhile to try and organize an aspect of that variety.
      
      As for "her" profile!
      
      Sunforged is all male!
      
      
      
      
      btw - its hard to use "collusion" and ethical in the same sentence in the scope of any scenario.
      
      try "cooperation" instead

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         Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The link that I provided was Paul Deeds' answer to a question about interlinking of hubs. The reference seems relevant.

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   wyanjenposted 13 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/55279
   
   Each week the HubMob writes about a different topic.
   There is an RSS feed in every hub, and for every topic rmcrayne does a round-up that includes all the hubs.
   
   Lots of links
   
   

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   xobliamposted 13 years ago

   Thanks all... I checked out those links and the information was very helpful.
   
   I need to do more research but it looks like the HubMob might be close to want I had in mind.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   I am in the 60 day challenge. The second running of the challenge.

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      nasus loopsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      good luck with that Cagsil

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   Sunny Robinsonposted 13 years ago

   Christoph Reilly and Shadesbreath play off of each other's hubs.  It's really funny to watch.  Is that what you meant?
   
   Anyway, I'm with the others here.  Hubmobs are the way to go, as far as grouping up with other hubbers to write themed hubs.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   it still is .. I could see why it would be a forum post worth referencing as the site owners views are paramount, even of more importance then Goofles, - but google is referring to websites not webpages within a site.( I was referencing the google link)
   
   ..think about it? why would an automatic interlinking of pages done via "related hubs" be ok - but intentionally linking pages together for whatever other relationship would not? or using a hubkarma tool be any different?
   
   ..sometimes a public statement is just a  public statement
   
   Im pretty much chatting for theories sake, again, I dont think its an effort worth pursuing, if you are to decide to work in a business group, you would want to leverage multiple locations, not just within one domain.
   
   The HP interpage seo is really strong, it just doesnt need any help.

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Good analysis. The site owner's statements are relevant, but their actions even more so.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   ^ LOL, that sounds way more sinister than I intended!
   
   The designers of this site are light years ahead of me as far as understanding what creates a strong optimized supersite with community involvement and a promise of longevity. It is very important to maintain a proactive method to maintain quality methods.
   
   Im just nitpicking that the distinction of intent is imaginary and the specifically linked guideline referenced how a webmaster is suggested to think not some peon "pagemasters"

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It is my impression that the kind of interlinking being discussed here is something HubPages knows about. If they don't prevent that, I don't think that individual hubbers should be overly worried about participating, that was my point. On the other hand, if someone wants to behave in a particularly "ethical way," they should do some research and then decide for themselves.

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   tritrainposted 13 years ago

   I'm more worried about colliding hubbers.
   
   I'm fragile and break easily.

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      skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    Yeah, I can see that.

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    xobliamposted 13 years ago

    Now you people have me a little confused.
    
    Might say you have the right side of my brain colliding with the left side.
    
    The type of linking I was thinking about was similar to what Master Edmonson suggests we do when his captains offer us the option of linking to hubs inside the House of Hubbers.
    
    Let me rephrase that....after you finish a hub you get that thing with a choice of keyword links and you can simply click a link if you so choose.
    
    I personally don't like the option since the choices usually don't add value to my topic.
    
    The type of colluding i was thinking of, and it might be termed ethical colluding if you agree with me, is a buddy writing experiment where if I am talking about How to avoid credit card scams.....and another hubber on the team wants to write a hub listing credit card scams that I can later link to then I have a direct and valuable link to go to.
    
    Same idea as Master Edmonsons linking strategy only better IMO.
    
    Thanks all for the thoughts....

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       Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Linking to related hubs that your readers may find valuable cannot be a bad thing, nor unethical. That is the whole idea behind linking.

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    Gordon Hamiltonposted 13 years ago

    Most aspects of this topic have already been covered but there is one other factor which I recall happening on a site very similar to Hub Pages, roughly about two years ago. (Emphasis - it was not Hub Pages!!)
    
    Basically, two members of the site (one of whom was an acquaintance/sort of friend of mine) decided that they were going to tackle a project like this by covering very closely related subjects from their own perspectives and linking to each other's creations for additional value. Great theory and probably useful to visitors to either one's sites, in the spirit of appropriate linking.
    
    The problem? I still sort of laugh when I think about it (OK - I know I shouldn't) but amazingly they fell out because they each accused the other of not outbound linking enough in relation to the number of inbound links received. Yes, it was incredibly petty - but to the best of my knowledge, those two former friends are still not speaking.
    
    That was with two people involved - imagine the potential with five, ten, or more involved!!
    
    Great idea in theory, though!

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    CYBERSUPEposted 13 years ago

    I agree with Website Examiner that this type of linking should fly, a be of value.

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    xobliamposted 13 years ago

    I see your point GH but I think we should give this idea a test by forming a small group.
    
    I say we load the cannons with rubber bullets in case GH's assessment holds true and sh%@%^% hits the heavenly fans and go for it.
    
    What topic would be most beneficial and who's in.
    
    _________
    
    Seriously though I may be jumping the gun.
    
    Here's another idea that someone might give me feedback on. If I go and read an article written by GH and find a word that I want to work with could I not then make a deal with GH to provide the link to my hub. Wouldn't it be a simple private message process.
    
    Would that be breaking the rules of this platform ?
    
    I can't see how it would. It would be a win win win situation IMO. GH wins - I win - and Hubpages wins if the spiders dig deeper through the topic related link.

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