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Goodbye Alternate Poet

  1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    Alternate Poet....I like to refer to him as AP....tells me he won't be posting in the forums anymore.......

    Just want to say I'll miss him!.....

    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/mlmvicbc/2915530_177.jpg

    1. dutchman1951 profile image61
      dutchman1951posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      he will be missed, his counter points and civil discussion kept us more honest. regardless weather you liked him or not. He was a good opponent for discussions. He made you think.

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      Baileybearposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      really...I put him down on a hub as a person that makes very worthwhile comments on forums

  2. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    It happens.

  3. Haunty profile image82
    Hauntyposted 6 years ago

    AP is definitely someone whose posts I enjoyed reading. Hope he stays as china man though. smile

    1. dutchman1951 profile image61
      dutchman1951posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      he is posted in a few threads so maybe he will

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    china manposted 6 years ago

    From AP
    Farewell friends and enemies alike :-



    I leave you all
    Religions hissing vipers heads
    a mirror
    The beggars ball of drooling right wing fools
    a bat
    The simple fool a simple dunces hat

    To be or not to be, ah, that was the question
    tis nobler that I retire this fight
    I will still rage, rage, against the dying of the light
    good night.

    1. ceciliabeltran profile image79
      ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      out out brief candle
      life is but a fleeting shadow
      a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage
      and then is heard no more

      it is a tale full of sound of fury
      signifying nothing.

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        china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Amazing how good old Will managed to sum up these forums before even useful electricity was invented, never mind computers and the internet big_smile

        1. ceciliabeltran profile image79
          ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          it is truly amazing. He really got human nature down pat.

          I love him...I was in London when they discovered his first theater under a parking lot, was it.  anyway, back to alternate poet...

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            china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            So was I - when the Globe stumps were found, I was working on surveying and repairing the major bridges nearby at the time.

            So - about AP, you didn't like him much then ?  I thought he had a nice line in irony and originality going myself big_smile

            1. ceciliabeltran profile image79
              ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              errr...there are many boys disagreeing with me here...they are all a blurrrrrr.... I do have favorite sparring partners though. just because they are so easy to disprove. lol.

  5. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Sounds like our dear friend the Alternate needs an alternate to the alternate!
    So long AP. Happy (non-campaign) trails.
    MM

  6. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...i figure he likes art.....

    here's a send off present for you AP....hope you get to see it up close....

    http://www.easy-oil-painting-techniques.org/images/22pearl2.jpg

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ah!  The Lady with the earl peering !    I can see it so I guess he can too big_smile

  7. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...do you mean you're also AP?....don't be kiddin' around with me.....so you're not gone?

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

      1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
        SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        well the cat's out of the bag....was going to cook a nice dinner, with lots of wine...a  nice send off dinner....and all that....guess it's not necessary....glad you're stayin'...so i'll just sip on my glass of wine anyway....and relaaaaxxx abit.


        ...how's the day in China today....it's Saturday (or should say Sunday)...no work...just play.....so whatcha playin' today....anything interesting?

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          china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Just chillin' really.  We have had a hectic week and poor old Sukie is working all day so I am on my own.  I seem to have gained some more work so my 5 year holiday feels like it is over and I have to get on and do some stuff soon. 

          You enjoy that wine and dinner and I am there in spirit big_smile

          I have been wound into the travel industry - so if you or anyone wants to come visit good ole China I can arrange that as well now smile

          Nice warm day here, so sitting at this glass fronted box half naked - don't look !

          1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
            SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            ha ha...i won't look.....

            5 year holiday!?....not bad!...i guess...

            so what do you mean 'wound into the travel industry'....?...like an agent?

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              china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Promotion for the best Company operating in China at the moment. If your local travel agent mentions me then you are in the right place for the best China experience, second to directly visiting me of course big_smile

              My main work here is teaching and that is a 16 hour week, hardly enough to register on the work-ometer after a lifetime of 14 hour days and seven day weeks in busienss.

              1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
                SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                ...i'll keep that in mind....so I just say 'china man sent me' LOL! or 'AP sent me'...j/k!....when i'm serious i'll connect.


                I still like that 16 hour a week thing tho!  if you can afford it, why not.....i'd probably have a hard time with the 16 hours some weeks.

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                  china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  The teaching is pretty easy if you catch oral English, no stretch unless you make it hard.    The pay is in the middle class range here - so it is much more than enough to live on and travel in the 3 month holidays.

                  I am getting more serious about things because we plan to get married soon!  a kind of kick start back to reality smile

                  What is the charity about that you 'head up' ?

                  1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
                    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    ...i work with really low income families (not just poverty - lots of dysfunction) and mental health and addictions....and as you know poverty in N.A .terms.

                    thinking about making a change though within the year...i'm an accountant by profession...maybe I'll dive into gov't or private sector....i do like the charitable sector however...just need a change....my job takes me into politics which I like...advocating for changes relevant to the mandate of the org I work for - the people that access the services...i'd miss talking to elected gov't officials etc....if i went into the gov't or private sector...wouldn't be able to do it anymore.

                    So, when are you getting married?

                  2. Sab Oh profile image58
                    Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    If you're really serious about teaching you make the effort to build your skills and always improve. Doesn't have to be 'difficult' like a chore, but if you're not challenging yourself something is wrong.

  8. Joy56 profile image60
    Joy56posted 6 years ago

    Just get married, and have a lovely little china man, or woman.....   why wait???????  so Alternate Poet is gone for good, but you are staying around? Does that mean China Man will write poetry, or Alternate Poet is just staying out of forums
    hmm

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Just get married in China is a complex business!  Here the family is strong and I get all of them along with the girl.  This is both good and bad from my perspective, good because they are lovely and take you in big style.  Bad because they operate as a unit and I am only one of a group, good for my soul maybe - but hard when I have been boss all my life big_smile

      AP is only gone from the forums - and don't worry, china man loves you just the same big_smile

      1. Joy56 profile image60
        Joy56posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        yeah it does sound a little complicated actually.  RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!  why is nothing ever straight forward....

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          china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          No - I have quit running - I have totally submitted to my new lot in life, being dominated half way around the world by a girl half my age, half my size (exactly) and a heart bigger than I could ever imagine.

          Added to that she is prettier than any centrefold ever was and I am definately hooked for life   big_smile

          1. Joy56 profile image60
            Joy56posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            oh no i did not mean run away from her.... I meant with her, away from the family..... You are such a romantic fool.... In the nicest possible way, where did you meet her?????????

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              china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The family is part of the package - and to be honest I welcome the idea of having a 'family' here in China, balances nicely withthe 'family' in the UK.

              At an Interpretation school - out of all the fantastic English speakers she was the only one who also understood what the words really mean. For second language speakers irony, wit and inference are really difficult; she attracted my attention with her looks and attracted my mind when she was the only one there who fell about laughing at my jokes big_smile

              I am relly lucky that she has such an advanced sense of humour as you would realise if you saw me big_smile  She says that she loves me because I am a bargain - so big and so cheap !

              1. Joy56 profile image60
                Joy56posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                kinda two for the price of one bargain.  Love knows no age, if it feels right, it is right.

          2. Sab Oh profile image58
            Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            " she is prettier than any centrefold ever was"


            .......


            That seems like sort of an odd 'compliment'

            1. Joy56 profile image60
              Joy56posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              she is so beautiful i have seen a picture of her,. are you jeaous of his happiness???????

              1. Sab Oh profile image58
                Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Why would I be jealous or begrudge someone a healthy happiness?


                You don't find that to be an odd 'compliment'?

                1. Joy56 profile image60
                  Joy56posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Not if someone thinks girls in centrefold are beautiful.  I never look at girls in centrefold, and apparantly cant understand beauty as men see beauty.   i cannot understand why you are being bitchy about the whole thing though, it is not nice at all

                  1. Sab Oh profile image58
                    Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    But a "centerfold" is not exactly an example of something of the 'virtuous' beauty type, you know? People look at centerfolds for lurid pleasure but certainly not with admiration or respect. It would be like boasting that one's partner is better at sex than a whore. Well, whores are probably good at sex but that is certainly no compliment. Centerfolds are people who reveal themselves for money. I'm pretty sure most would not appreciate the comparison or the cheap objectification it carries.

                    Comparison with a model or a film star I could understand, but "centerfold" just seems creepy and disrespectful (I would also say that bringing up the body of someone that one supposedly loves, in such an inappropriately personal and objectifying way is inherently inappropriate, but...).

                2. ceciliabeltran profile image79
                  ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  A little bit, like the bench mark is a playboy centerfold.

                  So either that is a compliment or a degradation.

                  But then, many boys fall in love with their first centerfold, so it may be an actual honor to be called such.

                  I personally would rather be compared to an angel, a supermodel, a movie star or a goddess...but centerfold is too much like the song of FLight of the conchords:

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmDTSQtK … r_embedded

                  no offense but yeah...definitely strange description.

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                    china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    But your descriptions are so 'old hat' and a little prudish if you don't mind me saying so.  Women may not like it so much but then not many bear comparison I suppose.  Most normal people have shed their inhibitions about these things much the same as the attitude to the nudes that the old masters were so fond of.

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              china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              It is conventional behaviour to compare a girls beauty with something - wouldl you prefer I compare her to a summers day ?  a little old hat don't you think in this  modern enlightened age.

  9. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...bribery might work!....and guess it's good for Sukie to get a look at things from another angle.....

    ...the dysfunction is generational many times....kids that were placed in foster homes...now adults/teens raising children...not all of them have risen above what life dealt them as kids...it's tough for some...they just never were given a break or never found the courage to rise above their environment...and became a product of it...that's just one example btw.....it's amazing what some people have experienced and how they struggle and some rise above and fly......

    ...some would consider my take on things as 'leant leaning' - remember him lol ....but...there are some people that just need a hand up....we're not all strong, or smart or whatever....big_smile

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I remember him !

      It is amazing how some people rise above the worst things and others go under.  Complex critters aint we?   

      I have found 'giving a hand up' to turn into 'bites the hand' more times than not big_smile  Take care of yourself - but don't stop doing it !  It is just the hard part of the deal.

      You must be near the bottom of that bottle I guess?

  10. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...nite AP!...gonna hit the sack...up really, really early tomorrow...going hunting!...i'll post some pics from a mountain top tomorrow nite.

    ...now put some clothes on wuldya....Sukie's comin' home!...she'll wonder what you've been up to....dishes need to be done...laundry is piling up...let the cat in....and where's lunch/dinner? big_smile

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      not for hours yet big_smile

      Night - pleasant dreams.

  11. Joy56 profile image60
    Joy56posted 6 years ago

    Hi China Man, just read you were banned as Alternate Poet, that explains a lot.... I don't believe it.....

  12. Pearldiver profile image87
    Pearldiverposted 6 years ago

    Oh AP.... It's just like camping! Or perhaps consider it like darning big_smile  Don't let it rip the sole out of ya!

    You have friends here... so you're a lucky sock! smile
    Hell no one wanted to talk to my shoes.. even though I put them in the middle of the dinner table big_smile

    1. Joy56 profile image60
      Joy56posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      there must be a hidden messae there somewhere..... i am not understanding.... hi Pearldiver, nice to see ya

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile   no worries here mate !   AP has been banned off and on many times, this is just the last and final big_smile

      Only an Aussie would put their boots on the table mate !  here in China we leave 'em at the door.

  13. Randy Godwin profile image91
    Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

    But AP was so much better looking than China Man!  Who did you piss off now!

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile  A christian of course big_smile    But the lovely moderators were very kind about it all and offered me the choice of keeping one or the other.  I think that they love me secretly big_smile

      1. Joy56 profile image60
        Joy56posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        EVERYBODY LOVES BOTH OF YOU. EVEN THE CHRISTIANS.
        tongue

      2. Randy Godwin profile image91
        Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I figured as much!  There's never a hungry lion around when you need one!  You mean you actually know what the moderators look like?

  14. thirdmillenium profile image60
    thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago

    But why?

  15. ceciliabeltran profile image79
    ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago

    For those too lazy to check out the link. Here's a clip of the lyrics:

    "You're so beautiful
    like a...tree
    or a high class prostitute
    (you're so beautiful)
    You could be a part time model
    but you'll probably still have to keep your normal job
    (a part time model)
    spendin part of your time modelin..
    and part of your time next to me.
    My place is usually tidier than this."

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for that - I can't get Youtube here.

  16. pisean282311 profile image52
    pisean282311posted 6 years ago

    what , why? AP is a value addition to forums..He must keep expressing his views...

  17. ceciliabeltran profile image79
    ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago

    err as opposed to precise, china man.

  18. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...hmmmm.............hi AP....

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good morning SOH - how has your day been so far ?

      1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
        SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        good...i was hunting today......big_smile....it was a great day...i'll post some pics....didn't get a deer...only ones in sight were on the roads....next weekend....i'm going out again!

        but....i see this thread went into a direction that was really too bad.....poor you.....

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          china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Don't fret about it - just someone on a wombstick working in tandem with a troll - maybe they were just alone on a sunday with nobody else to talk at.

          Yes - lets see the pics, one of the few things I miss are the big empty almost wide spaces to walk in.

          1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
            SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            yea...too bad.....

            one more to upload to photobucket....i'll be back.....

          2. ceciliabeltran profile image79
            ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            sweetie, we can't all agree with your sentiments. Yes, especially if they're a little controversial.

  19. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    a couple of bears...not a good pic...but...

    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/mlmvicbc/bearandcub.jpg

    part way up the mountain...clear cut...going up forest logging road...
    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/mlmvicbc/forest.jpg

    logging road we were driving on...
    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/mlmvicbc/forest1.jpg

    ...water rushing off the mountain....lots of heavy rain today
    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/mlmvicbc/streamfromrain.jpg

    came across a herd of Elk at about 7:30 a.m. ....on our way to the mountain we were going to drive up...

    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/mlmvicbc/Elk.jpg

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      china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Nice - slightly blurred pics work fine, they sharpen up with a bit of imagination and a working memory big_smile

      Nice place to be, lucky you !

      1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
        SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        ...it was a great day....yea...some of the pics are through the windshield lol...sometimes there is just no time to get it set up right.......it's gone in a flash.....and lots of rain, fog and a bit of hail doesn't help either......

        I posted some others on the good morning thread last Sun/Mon....I was up in the same area.

        Next weekend, I'll post one of me 'locked and loaded'....just for fun lol....I'm usually just taking pictures..........

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          china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I pretty much gave up trying to get 'wild' shots, apart from the very occasional lucky break it can take so long waiting for the right moment it spoils the walk smile

          1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
            SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            anyway later....it was long day...was up way too early....lots of fresh air and all that...

            hey...you should post some pics of China....I'd love to see that....will ya? will ya?......

            ....get that laundry done before Sukie gets home wuldya?

            it was great chatting again!

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              china manposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Yep - always nice chatting with you  - I am off to work now - later maybe smile

 
working