Beta Title Tuner

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   imatellmuvaposted 14 years ago

   The help instructions for the Beta Title Tuner says that you can click on any hub to change the title to improve traffic.
   
   BUT, when I click Beta Title Tuner, only one of my hubs populates. I have another hub, that I would love to use this tool for.

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      Abbasangelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      None of mine come up, I didn't think it worked.
      
      They must only think that one of yours needs fixing.

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         imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe because all of your titles are AWESOME!!!

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            Abbasangelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            They really can't be!! I just don't think the title tuner knows what to do with them!!
            
            Thanks!

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               imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Irohner pointed out that the hub title appears if there are suggestions, and doesn't when they're not. So it is likely that you have sufficient keywords in your title.
               
               My problem is that I have the word "love" in my title. The search for love directs traffic towards romance and icky stuff like that. My article is about being frugal.
               
               So it's back to the drawing board...whimper, whimper, sob, sob!!

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You can change the title of your hubs at any time, with or without the Title Tuner tool.
      
      If the tool has suggestions for a hub, the hub's title appears. If it has no suggestions, the hub doesn't show up. Simple.

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         imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I know, but I like that the title tuner offers suggestions. It's an easy fix. But since the instructions said that the title tuner can be used for any hub, I was interested in the tuner offering suggestions for those other hubs, especially one, that's screaming help me!

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   Toby Hansenposted 14 years ago

   All that I ever get from the daft thing is a suggestion to add "a" or "the" to the title. If I did that my Hub would end up being called "A the day in the life of a Joe the Bloggs"
   
   NB: Hub title made up to prevent people getting their keyboards in a knot

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      Abbasangelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ha ha....

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      imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think I read in the Learning Center that their still working on it. Perhaps what  I experienced is an area that's still under construction.
      
      ....and obviously the suggestions for your hub didn't make ad-sense!....get it sense!!! ahahahahaa

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   arthurchappellposted 14 years ago

   I find its suggestions impractical - it takes a keyword and suggests similar words - So if you write about why you think football is the greatest game, it will give you random words associated with football, sport, etc - most often they won't work in substitution for what you have anyway.  It's a good idea but I find it doesn't work for me

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      simeonvisserposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The words are not random. The suggestions are the keywords that were used most often to find your hub in search engines, with the exception of words that already appear in the title. It can be useful sometimes to include these words or to create a subtitle.
      
      So if yo have a title "Cookies recipes - A step-by-step guide" and you find that many people search for 'chocolate cookies', you can add the word chocolate in the title. If the title gets too long, you can replace the subtitle 'a step-by-step guide' with something else.

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         1974posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly what simeonvisser said above.  If your Hub is not getting traffic from searches, how would the title tuner be able to suggest improvements?  Take a look at the title tuner suggestions, and then go look at your keyword stats for the same hub.  You should see a striking similarity between the two.

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            imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I truly considered that...1974 I'm rolling up my sleeves...I've got some work to do!!!
            
            You and simeonvisser are awesome!! Thanks!!!

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         arthurchappellposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         aye, though it often expects the title to be a synopsis ofthe overall conyent. A title, "A review of Shakespeare's Hamlet' is self explanatory - following Beta tuners would make it go, "Being a critique of the Tragedy of Hamlet noble Prince Of Elsinore, Denmark, over a family dispute, in a time of war, treachery, madness and bloodshed."

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            simeonvisserposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It is important not to go overboard but even one or two places higher in Google's ranking can make a world of difference. If people see their keywords in the title then they really like that. Being ranked in position 8 or position 5 can make a real difference so it is worth it to add more keywords.

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      imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      @Arthurchappell, whoa....that's a lot of title...I can see it coming down my street!!!!
      
      @simeonvisser, I'm learning more and more about the importance of keywords. This is exactly why I wanted to use the tuner for one of my other articles...but can't...boo hoo hoo!!

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   L.L. Woodardposted 14 years ago

   I thought Title Tuner was inactive because each time I try to use it, it tells me "no hubs available" or something along those lines. After reading the responses here, I realize it means the Tuner has no suggestions. Thanks all.

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      simeonvisserposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, that's right. It takes time for HubPages to collect enough keyword data from search engines for your hubs. Whenever it has enough data it will analyze your title and provide you with keywords that could be added. Most of the time my title tuner has no improvement suggestions for my hubs.

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      imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      @L.L. Woodward, I'm learning a lot from the responses here too, especially from simeonvisser.
      
      @ simeonvisser,  Who are you simeonvisser?
      ....Why you're a Hubber-Hero!!!!!

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   Valeedposted 14 years ago

   Hi! Beta title tuner did worked for one of my hub. The suggestions made by this tool are the keywords that are mostly used in search engine searches but does not exists in your hub title. So, sometimes fixing the title can help you improve on your traffic. Happy hubbing!

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      imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Got it Valeed! I am trying to consider key words for the title to one of my hubs, without taking too much away from the content. I'm doing keyword research to improve the title, but thought that the tuner would offer suggestions that I am perhaps overlooking.
      
      Thanks Valeed...nice profile pic!!

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   IzzyMposted 14 years ago

   Thought I'd slip in an odd little story about the title tuner.
   I have a hub about the Massacre of Glencoe which you may know is about a clan fight in Scotland hundreds of years ago.
   But the title tuner kept suggesting I add "nesper Indians" into the title.
   As there were no Indians in Scotland at that time I thought it odd to say the least.
   Not knowing what a nesper Indian was, I googled it, and there in the number 1 position is my hub!
   It took a lot of headscratching to figure out where I'd referenced Indians at all.
   It was in a comment made by another hubber!
   So, comments do count towards google searches!

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      L.L. Woodardposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      IzzyM, thanks for sharing that story. I'd never considered that comment content would also be fodder for Google.

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      imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Someone recently told me how comments help the search engines.
      
      So you never had to change the title AND STILL became a #1? Pure Awesomeness!

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         IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         LOL, I'm #1 for a keyword I didn't aim for, that no-one is searching for (well thats a lie - 4 people were searching for it)and is worth zero!
         
         Actually the hub is at #6 in google for its chosen keywords

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            imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            What's the title, I want to read It?!

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               IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Massacre of Glencoe. Sorry I can't link it here and I have that many hubs it'll be hard to find. When you get to my home page, put the title in the search box and it should come up

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                  imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  You did say that in your original statement, but I wan't sure if that was the exact title. It sounds quite interesting!!
                  
                  Even still I could have found it by going to your profile page....silly me!!

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                     IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks for stopping by and commenting
                     It might be high up in google but not many people look up historical things...

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                        imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I went back to the story and found the anwer to the question I asked. I don't know how I missed that! Sorry!

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   camloposted 14 years ago

   Most of my titles are now perfectly tuned, with the help of the Title Tuner, but I don't like the titles I now have at all. One Hub title even has the same word twice, once with its UK spelling, and once with its US spelling. But the Hubs are doing better for it, so that's all right with me.

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      imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Everybody say Camlo's in da' house  ...whuuuut?...Camlo's in da' house!!
      
      I have this one article that I need to change the title for, but the current title is not being picked-up by the Title Tuner. So, I have been using the google adwords:keywords, which for me is a bit confusing.
      
      I understand the importance of keywords (now), but finding and using all of the right words and still have a catchy title is a bit trying. In one sense catchy IS traffic, but I want to be sure that I do get the traffic because of the title.

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   Midnight Oilposted 14 years ago

   Just tried 'Title Tuner' on my latest Hub title - "Time Bandits : Stop Them Robbing Your Time", and it blew the page up hehehehe
   
   It's either a super title or so rubbish it spat it out !!

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      imatellmuvaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You must have the Midas Touch!! You're King Beta!!!!

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