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Can somebody please explain to me or send me the link to where it is explained (step by step) as to how we promote the amazon products? Do I pick a product and then write a story that leads up to the product? Where do I place the links? HELP!
Hi Debbiestrange there are Hubs, forums and maybe some Q & A's on this topic. Use the search bar to find your answer
I don't write a story to promote a particular product on Amazon, but I have read where it is a great thing to do, and it increases the odds of you earning from the Amazon capsule. On all my hubs, I simply put in a keyword or phrase that relates to my hub and get a selection of items on Amazon that is related and those are what I display. "Most" of the time they are related. After doing that, you need to check on them and make sure. If not, you may need to tweak the keywords or phrase you used to narrow down what may appear.
I've never used the auto select feature on Amazon, Dale. I usually hand pick my products according to the article I am writing. Of course, my hubs are especially about the products being used in the How-to or repair articles. Some pay quite well.
I have used this feature on EBay, however. Sold a $500 item there just last week! I still don't know if I understand how we get paid for EBay sales though. I don't see my share of the sales on my account, but I may not be looking in the right place.
Hello, Randy. I did not go into the hand picking of an item, as it would be a tad taxing on me to try to explain that one, lol. I do that at times, as I am an Amazon Seller and on some hubs, I do have products that will list as related on the hub.
As for Ebay, the only sense I can make out of trying to figure it out, is that the revenue will be paid via the HP program at some point. I am relatively new here, just coming up on my first "paycheck" so I am not sure where my slim Ebay earnings will show up at.
it's a mystery to me too, Dale. My EBay sales list a bunch of items I've apparently sold but i can't see where anything but the EBay clicks--not worth much at all-- have ever been listed in my payment history on the program. If I can't see any and don't find out something pretty soon I'm goins to stop using EBay. Amazon pays well with no waiting for the money until HP takes their cut.
Perhaps I'm missing something here. I hope so!
Well, Randy, keep me in mind if you learn more about it, as it is a mystery to me as well. I have looked around for an answer, but have not found nothing at all.
Perhaps someone in the know will cut us a break, Dale! But anyway, if I don't find out something soon I'm going to take the EBay capsules off of my hubs. Homey don't play that!
Hmmm...."someone in the know" sounds so mysterious Randy! But, yes, maybe we will learn something.
Ha! It's always a mystery whether someone "in the know" will actually respond or not, Dale!
I wonder has anyone got paid for any EBay sales since it became part of the HP program. Not the petty little impression pennies, the 60% commission on the sales.
No. At the time HP offered it eBay had already made the change to pay per click. Actually, a while before that, even.
You're not going to like the answer, Randy.
eBay pays by the click, not a sales commission. You can find how much by going to earnings, earning reports and changing "all programs" to "ebay". The sales report is worthless for finding out what you've actually earned.
What eBay does is change the EPC based on valuable they think the clicks are. A sale will generally raise it and a new sign up is good, too. A bid is worth less and several clicks with none of these kinds of things will decrease the EPC.
I've been using eBay since HP made it available to everyone and doubt I've earned more than $5 a month, if that. I've just about decided I don't like it although I'll probably continue to use it as a way of giving a reader a choice, which I think google likes to see.
What??? You mean I sold a $500 A/C and don't get any commission on it? I would have probably sold one on Amazon if the stupid EBay capsule had not been displayed on the hub and netted at least 30 or 40 bucks. Why those dirty........! I'm removing every one of my EBay capsules if that is the case. This sucks the big one !!!
I'll remove ebay from the hubs that are written based on reviews for amazon. However, will let ebay be on other hubs as I do get some clicks.
Not me! Why in heck would I allow them to stay? Someone's making the commission on the sales I've made and It isn't me. I've already began removing everything EBay on mine and will remove the affiliate code from my settings! This is a rip-off pure and simple. Now I am going to have to advise everyone NOt to use this crappy program!
Haha As long as I don't have amazon based stuff there I don't mind actually. Not really looking forward to making sales there and I doubt people will even buy when they search for those topics. But, some inquisitive people may click
I understand, but when you sell products which net you 40 or 50 dollars a pop on one affiliate, and perhaps $.39 on Ebay for the same product, it's a no-brainer.
I wonder how many other writers are still waiting to be paid dollars and are only getting pennies instead? This program is a rip-off to anyone who sells product on their hubs. The honest truth. I suppose it's for those who do not sell any products and are happy to get anything at all. Sorry, Homey don't play that!!
Well, that is a good explanation. I was curious as well. I am like you, however, not making much for sure there on Ebay, but Google may like the options choice.
No, this is unacceptable. I've sold over a thousand dollars worth of stuff and all I get is the pennies on my account? Screw this!! The same sales on Amazon would net me at least $600! Out they go!!!!! What a rip off!! Does HP only get 40% of the pennies? I doubt it very seriously! I am P.O.ed now!
Where's a staff member for me to chew out about this? Let me guess, it's the dern weekend and they aren't here?
Won't do any good - they'll send you to eBay to try and make sense of their policies. That's what they did for me, anyway.
Seems that eBay made the change to this pathetic system some months ago and that HP gets the same deal we do as far as payment per click goes. I would assume that they will earn more because they have a LOT more clicks, but eBay won't put out any really hard information about how they figure EPC so I'm not even sure about that.
I've only got one big ticket item on eBay, but if it ever hits that instead of the Amazon capsule right next to it for the same thing I'll be as mad as you are. I really have thought about taking that one off the hub.
Consider mine gone!! why would I advertise the same product on Ebay when it only nets me pennies when i can earn 40 or 50 dollars on Amazon? This is why I don't want Amazon to become part of the HP program. I'd rather deal with the affiliate myself, not get paid through HP. I'm taking all of my EBay products off my hubs and replace them with Amazon instead. This was a stupid idea if they knew this was how it was going to work! And to think I kept wondering when I was going to get paid my share for the list of sales on my account
It suggests on the page we get 60% of the sales commission and HP got 40% unless a referral was also paid out of HP's share. What else could this section mean? If HP does the same with Amazon they can kiss my popalooly!!
Thank you all for the help. I am in the process of doing my first Amazon hub; wish me luck.
Ok..Hub complete. I think I did it correct. It wasn't as difficult as I thought it was going to be.
Looks good, Debbie. Not sure about it being done right or wrong. I have never done one, lol. I certainly don't see anything weird about it. All is related and a good topic as well.
Nobody seems to have given you much advice about sales hubs in general, Debbie, so here is some from me
Sales hubs need to be targeted. Either choose a detailed group of products (ie best watch for less than $10, or navy blue ladies short-length overcoats) and write hubs around around the products, pointing out the good and the bad points about the product.
If its something you have already bought, you can be completely original, but customer reviews on Amazon are a good place to look for reviews.
You are not trying to make a cold sell, you are wanting to channel someone who is looking to buy that product through to Amazon, so that you get the commission.
Write for people who have their credit card in their hand, wanting to buy.
I think they trust you more if you point out any negative stuff you have read about it as well as the positive.
In fact they probably trust you because you made the effort to put some words on a page (have you looked at sales sites, just rows and rows of product links and no original descriptions).
The most successful marketers drill down through a range of products for just one product (or range of them) that is not necessarily highly searched for, but is individually searched for. If you don't know, guess. Keep an eye on the search terms that bring people to your hub and you will see how detailed you need to be, or perhaps it will give you ideas.
People with a credit card in their hand to buy know what they want. They typed exactly what they were looking for into the search engine.
The trick is to write about that specific product so that they find your hub, read it, like it, click through to Amazon and go shopping.
It doesn't matter if you hardly get any visits to your hub, so long as each visitor you get buys, you know you have done it right:)
I have a hub like that I wrote about 2 weeks ago on another account. Its only had about 30 visits, but its made about 15 sales!
The hub you wrote is fine - good title, nice products, it will likely do well at Christmas, but for all year round selling you really need to target a specific product.
Of course there is no limit to how many products you target as you can write as many hubs as you like!
PS I wish someone had told me all this when I started out. I tried to write sales hubs that were informational, and that doesn't work.
People read, go away, think about it, decide its a good idea, then go shopping through someone else's link because they don't know about cookies and commission and such stuff.
By the way, be careful of your word ratio on your hub, it is at least 50 words per product and I think yours was a bit short. The longer your hub is, the more keywords you can get in, so the more chances of being found by search.
Wonderfully shared, Izzy! Thanks. I have no experience in that area, and you have provided a gold mine!
Hey Izzy since you've got experience can you look over my latest hub and let me know if it's done right? I guess it's fine but I'm no expert and it's just my second sales hub.
Wow, you've put a lot of information into that hub! If I was looking for a glass cooker hood, I would probably buy from you!
I am a bit concerned that there might be too much information and too much choice, but don't change the hub because that hub looks like being a great resource for people thinking about glass cooker hoods.
I'm not an expert, I just learnt my knowledge from some of the greats on here, who are no longer posting.
Which also means that a search of these forums will throw up some gems when it comes to online selling.
Thanks I've got a similar hub on general kitchen hoods and guest users sent me private mails asking for more info based on specific types with a choice as I've written. The other hub too is similar but has range hoods of various styles. This is more specific and I guess people like choice
I've had a hub where I spoke of just 3 products they were the best but they were all form the same manufacturer. Got plenty of comments that I didn't approve saying that I was biased and was clearly a sales rep for that company - But, I knew those products personally plus the other amazon reviews too showed they were the best. That's the reason I've begun writing with a larger choice and I see to it that there are the best from various brands included
Izzy..thank you so so so much!!! You have helped me a great deal; great advice and wonderful information.
You're welcome (and Dale too!)
One other thing I didn't go into much detail over was types of products that sell, and this is where you use your nose.
Look at popular TV programs in your area for what the kiddies want. Your supermarket for what families are looking for. TV adverts, magazine adverts, billboards all promote products that people will come home and look up on the internet at some point, usually after they have read and heard all the sales patter, and want to buy.
This is where you come in. Find out who sells it (Amazon or eBay) and offer price comparison or something, or just stick to Amazon (you seem to get more commission with Amazon).
If neither sells it, and it is a popular item, then you could still write about it and hope Google ads take up the slack.
Another interesting point on this is that a lot of people don't actually read all of your hub, they scroll through it and pick up salient points (this is where bullet points help).
One item I have for sale is overpriced on Amazon and eBay and half the price on another site altogether (who doesn't offer affiliate sales).
So I wrote on the article that site X sells it a lot cheaper and that they should buy it from there until Amazon reduce their price. I also said I had no affiliation with this other site, but added that buying the group of products from Amazon was actually their best buy if they don't want to go to site X.
Guess what, the sales I am getting are the whole group of products from Amazon (and the occasional individual one!), so even if site X is getting sales from me, I am not losing out really.
I took the leap and published my first hub of this nature, lol. I got inspiration from all that has been shared in this topic. Thanks for the insight and inspiration!
Good luck! Had a quick peek at both your hubs and they are both nicely laid out and should do well if you can attract search traffic
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