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   Ruth Angelposted 9 years ago

   Is it a natural reoccurring Earth cycle? Or is it due to human productivity? I want to hear your opinions on this ongoing controversy.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Its hard to prove either way, if you ask me. I say the human population and what we do is pretty small in comparison to the size of earth. I say, logically, the earth is so gigantic and the sky so vast that our little emissions cannot have that much effect. Therefore I would guess it is a naturally reoccurring earth cycle.
      Why?

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         Ruth Angelposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         There has been recent studies that show our ozone layer has essentially begun to rebuild itself. The more I research the controversy the more inclined I am to believe that it is simply a natural occurrence that happens every few thousands of years. Also other studies have shown that below surface temperatures of the oceanic floor have been a factor in the glaciers melting.  I find some of the United States weather patterns a bit contradictive to global warming. For instance, I live in New Mexico, in an area where we have not seen a sufficient amount of rain fall in more than 10 years. Yet, in 2014 and current, we have experienced quite a bit of flooding here in my town. And what about all the flooding that was happening in Texas not too long ago?  But everyone wants to use the fact that California is sustaining a drought to defend their global warming theories.

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            mrpopoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            The ozone layer's recovery is most likely due to the ban on chlorofluorocarbons in the 80s. As far as I'm aware the ongoing recovery is largely a natural process but the hole in the ozone layer was a direct consequence of human activity (which is why this is happening in a span of 30 years as opposed to "few thousands of years").
            
            What I'm most amazed is the process that we went through. The scientific community found a problem with our refrigerants, chemical engineers created alternatives that do not destroy the ozone layer, and the international political community implemented that solution. Thus we get to have air conditioning while not destroying the ozone layer.
            
            It's too bad we aren't as proactive as we used to be.
            
            By the way, flooding is not contradictory to global warming/climate change; in fact, it's to be expected, according to these scientists: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic … as-deluge/

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         mrpopoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Would you say the same of a tumorous cell or a hostile bacteria or virus in relation to the human body?

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      Hxprofposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I've no doubt that it's naturally occurring.  In centuries before the industrial revolution, humans experienced cooling/warming trends that affected the entire planet.  If man plays any role in modern climate change, its infinitesimally small.  Because climate change is out of our control, all political attempts to change it will fail.

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         Ruth Angelposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         It is out of our control. Though I do agree with some climate scientist that believe that we should do everything we can to protect our ozone layer. By implementing carbon taxes we could not only prevent high levels of emissions, but it would create better opportunity nation wide if those tax dollars were subsidized to government programs that could benefit those trying to come out of poverty.

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      jackclee lmposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Doc snow and I have each created hubs to debate both sides as a first on HubPages - I hope everyone will check them out and vote.
      Thanks.
      http://hubpages.com/education/Climate-C … e-Are-They

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   Kevin Goodwinposted 9 years ago

   I think that it is a combination of the two. Humans certainly do not help the environment as much as they should, but the climate can also change quickly due to things like and asteroid strike on the Earth. That would point more to global warning being caused by natural reasons. So I am not sure this question will ever have enough evidence to prove either nor a political answer.

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   colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

   It is an estimated $1.5 trillion per year industry.
   
   My opinion is that climate change is a hoax.

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      Ruth Angelposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Climate change is most definitely an actual occurring event. I just find it hard to believe that some would implicate that it is exclusively due to human productivity.

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         mrpopoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Who believes it's exclusively due to human productivity?

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            Ruth Angelposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Mostly conspiracy theorist. (I'm speaking from my own experience with people. I work at a hotel and I meet a great deal of people. )

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               colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Oh okey dokey, you work at a hotel and have experience with people.
               Huh?

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               mrpopoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               I can't wrap my head around these conspiracy theorists. Do they believe that there's a cover up regarding anthropogenic climate change - despite 97% of highly published climate researchers believing human activity is a significant factor?

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                  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I have no idea what "they believe" in regard to your question. 
                  Sorry, I'm not going to spend time researching that.

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                     mrpopoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     My question (directed at Ruth) was to inquire what exactly is the cover up regarding the "conspiracy theorists" that believe human activity is the only cause of climate change. If most highly published climatologists agree that human activity is a significant factor it's hardly a conspiracy.
                     
                     My question wasn't directed at you and as far as I can tell you don't even believe in climate change altogether, let alone that it's caused exclusively by human activity. You don't need to apologize to me for not doing something that I didn't ask you to do in the first place.

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                        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                        It must be SUMMER TIME!
                        United States High Temperatures - Monday, Aug 10
                        
                        
                        http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/nation … ecast-maps

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                           mrpopoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                           I'm not sure what that has to do with my comment.

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                              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                              It didn't have anything to do with your comment. 
                              It is just news.

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         PeterStipposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         True, it's hard to believe that some people deny climate change in the first place. But people believe in the strangest things.

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         PeterStipposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Humans, That's to say 7 billion, have an enormous impact on this earth.
         We change our environment , building cities,roads,industry,agriculture ground.
         Just look at Google Earth and you see how the human species has changed the world..
         You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that such an impact on land and sea has consequences.
         We are living in an age where our climate is changing. This because the planet changed due to human behaviour.
         Humans are the cause of the climate change. And it is a world wide change not a local one (looking only at the U.S. Is thinking locally.)

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   PeterStipposted 9 years ago

   Climate Change is a fact. Ask all the scientists in the field if climate change is true and over a 95% will tell you that it's a fact.
   The cause is a different matter. But one thing that has an enormous influence is the livestock industry. The production of meat and dairy products leaves and incredible carbon. The best thing for the environment would be to eat less meat.
   To be vegan and drive a car is better then to drive a bicycle and eat meat or fish.

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      Ruth Angelposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I've heard of many contributions to carbon emissions, but I have to say, this is the first time i've ever heard of livestock industry imposing risk.   
      
      Also, Neil Degrasse Tyson's response to people who don't believe in climate change is the absolute greatest.
      “Now we have a time where people are cherry picking science, the science is not political. That’s like repealing gravity because you gained 10 pounds last week.”

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   PeterStipposted 9 years ago

   The fact that not everybody knows about the fact that the livestock industry has a huge impact on the climate is because it's an unpleasant fact. The lobby of the meat industry is enormous so they rather want the public opinion focused on cars and water consumption.
   But cows need loads of grass every day, grass needs loads of water. Cows shit and fart loads every day, pardon my language. That's a lot of methan.
   Really, it has a huge effect on the environment.
   But it's easier to say "oh, the big corporations are to blame, etc. but we could change climate change if we eat less meat. Best of course is vegan but if everybody would eat half the consumption of meat that the did it would matter.
   
   P.s. I'm not speaking about animal rights etc... But purely factual.
   Have a look at Google with lifestock and climate change.
   
   I agree with Neil, but sometimes scientific facts become emotional inconvenient. Tell a die hard smoker the scientific facts and he won't like it. Just so with die hard beef eaters.
   
   Good question.

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   Aime Fposted 9 years ago

   I used to have a sheet that listed out all the best and worst food options based on how they affect the environment but I think it's been lost among my millions of other school notes. It was a pretty eye-opening read. I do clearly remember that red meat was the worst thing you could eat. I hardly ate red meat before that but my consumption now is virtually nothing. If I remember correctly the most environmentally friendly meat was poultry.
   
   I do believe that humans have a profound affect on climate change but I've stopped arguing about it. At this point the only thing I care to discuss with anyone is how to live life in a way that's kinder to the environment, because surely we can all get on board with that, right? Positive changes in how we treat the environment in general will then have a positive effect on the issues regarding climate change, so it's a win-win.
   
   As for climate change, it's not necessarily something you can see when you look out your window. The earth has been getting warmer over the past several years. Climate and weather are different things, weather is what you can step outside and experience in any given moment (and climate change affects that, too, as has already been mentioned - droughts, floods, etc.).

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      PeterStipposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      yes, you can argue if there is or isn't a climate change for ever, that's what newspapers and the tele loves. In the meantime  it's not bad to take care at the environment in an your own way. It doesn't hurt.

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   Live to Learnposted 9 years ago

   I think it is part of a naturally occurring cycle which we are probably exacerbating by human activity.

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