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Why is any intelligent observation by Christians about anything attacked?

  1. royalblkrose profile image59
    royalblkroseposted 5 years ago

    Why is any intelligent observation by Christians about anything attacked?

    I recently answered a question about evolution, based on scientific facts, using proper grammar, syntax and definitions and was attacked for it. Great scientists such as George Washington Carver, Albert Einstein, Joseph Lister all had strong belief systems and were unashamed of either their brilliance, or their beliefs.

  2. junkseller profile image83
    junksellerposted 5 years ago

    When non-scientists talk about theories, what they generally mean by it is that it is a possible explanation for a given phenomenon. Scientists, however, would call that a hypothesis--which is the beginning of a theory. It becomes a theory as research and evidence are developed which support the hypothesis.Over time, a theory becomes more 'true' by the preponderence of supporting evidence and the interweaving of multiple avenues of inquiry, but very few, if any, theories reach the level of absolute truth--what one might consider a law, such as gravity.

    And so criticizing evolution for being "unproven" doesn't really make sense. It isn't supposed to be or meant to be. It is by definition a work in progress.

    Think of it like this: You hold a seed in your hand and suspect that if you put it in the ground it will grow into a tree. That is a hypotheses. After you plant the seed and it grows into a tree, you could then call it a theory, but it would only be a weak theory since you have only one small experiment (and not a very good one) to support it. Now imagine thousands of people plant seeds and they all grow into a trees. The theory becomes stronger. As theories go, Evolution is like a forest. There is a LOT of evidence to support it. That doesn't mean it is some absolute truth. That doesn't mean it has all the answers, and it certainly doesn't explain everything about how trees grow, which is kind of like asking how exactly humans evolved from some other species. Whether we know exactly or not doesn't mean we don't have strong evidence that we did (or have a multitude of potential explanations), just like not knowing exactly how trees grow doesn't mean we can ignore the forest.

    People who talk about theories being unproven or say things like "theories are theories" or all theories should be taught, don't display any awareness that theories exist along a spectrum of truth and it suggests that they have very little, if any, scientific training. While you are free to comment on scientific issues, you should not expect that people will not correct you if you are wrong about basic scientific principles. I don't consider that an attack. Nor does it have anything to do with your religion.

    1. royalblkrose profile image59
      royalblkroseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      thank you for your input.  now. as I stated in my answer to the evolution question- nothing has been REPRODUCED in that theory. no primordial soup, piltdown man was the skull of a pig...

    2. junkseller profile image83
      junksellerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Evolution says life evolved. It doesn't make any claim to know every little step along the way. Nor is it a theory about the origin of life. You are asking it to do things it makes no claim of being able to do.

    3. dianetrotter profile image69
      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      hypothesis is an educated guess, based on observation. Usually, a hypothesis can be supported or refuted through experimentation or more observation. A hypothesis can be disproven, but not proven to be true.  http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistry10

    4. royalblkrose profile image59
      royalblkroseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      @ junkseller,- my observation in the evolution debate is that NOTHING been proven- NOTHING-no logical chain of evidence as in other aspects of science.

    5. junkseller profile image83
      junksellerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Evolution=genetic change over time. Has been observed in lab experiments and is supported by things like fossil records, morphological similarities, biogeography, studying DNA, developmental biology, etc. Plenty of evidence.

    6. royalblkrose profile image59
      royalblkroseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      @ junkseller if there is plenty of evidence for evolution, why is it still a theory- goes against standard scientific protocols....

    7. junkseller profile image83
      junksellerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      It always will be a theory. Over time, future evidence will simply deem it to be more or less likely to be correct. Much of science is founded on theory. Cell theory, germ theory, theory of relativity, climate change, etc.

  3. dianetrotter profile image69
    dianetrotterposted 5 years ago

    Royal, I think it demonstrate how powerful the Living God is.  There are those who feel infidels should be killed.  Most people are not willing to criticize the religion.  They know they may get zapped.  But the real fear is that Jesus Christ is God and we will be held accountable for the eternal choice we make.

    "You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror."  James 2L19

    1. royalblkrose profile image59
      royalblkroseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      thanks for your input... you may be right...

  4. profile image0
    Larry Wallposted 5 years ago

    Part of being a Christian is witnessing to others and this can be in many forms, including discussions about things that have no clear cut answer. Thus, if you are talking to a non-Christian about evolution and creation you are going to get disagreement and since neither side can prove the other side right or wrong, you are going to end up with an aggressive argument. There is middle ground, but many will not accept. I contend that God created the plan for evolution when he created the world. Every evolutionary step that has been taken has been part of God's master plan. Some Christians will point to the creation story in the Bible, which I do not believe can be taken literally and others, the more scientific type, just refuse to accept the concept of a higher power. We can prove that man has evolved over the centuries. We cannot prove that God exists. Christians know that he does, but even those who dismiss the idea of a supreme being, cannot prove that he does not exist. Thus, the conflict is probably destine to continue for eons to come.

    1. royalblkrose profile image59
      royalblkroseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      interesting... the evolution question is an example.. I am attempting to create a dialogue... being a christian is not the same is being devoid of critical thinking skills

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      Larry Wallposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Royalbkrose: You are right. Many scientists who are Christians just cannot accept the idea of evolution by chance.. I do not think we will ever find a consensus and I am not sure we have to find this ultimate answer. If we do,will it change anything?

    3. profile image58
      The Watcherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      'We can prove that man has evolved over the centuries'.  Maybe we can, maybe we can't.  Maybe God is providing these 'answers'  asked by our power of questioning (which He gave us) by divine revelation.

  5. lone77star profile image83
    lone77starposted 5 years ago

    I would disagree with your question. You speak in generalities which, frequently, are not true.

    "Any intelligent observation?" By this you seen to imply that "all" intelligent observations by Christians are attacked. You would have to know every possible instance and that would prove difficult if not impossible. Even so, I think you would find exceptions to your "rule."

    But it also depends upon what is said (observed). And it depends upon the audience.

    Anything that goes against anyone's beliefs will frequently be attacked, especially if the holder of the belief has a sensitive ego.

    So, this could go for Christians and non-Christians, alike. Anyone could observe something and potentially find someone on Earth who would disagree and attack the observation. It's all about ego.

    1. royalblkrose profile image59
      royalblkroseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      as an observer of the interactions here on hubpages I have noticed intelligent thought out answers to questions posed by Christians, or thought out answers posted by Christians are quickly pounced on and denounced- sensitivity or no.

 
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