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   Mslabrown48posted 10 years ago

   Why should I give teachers the benefit of doubt on excusing them for children failure?
   
   Are we letting the teachers putting the blame on bad parenting so they are not responsible for the children's education.

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   poppyrposted 10 years ago

   Bad teachers can of course affect your child's grades, but it's the parents' responsibility to ensure that their child behaves, pays attention in class, doesn't disrupt other students, works hard, does their homework, etc.  It's ridiculous how some people blame the teacher for their child's bad grades when it's the child who doesn't try!  The teacher has to teach 20-30 students, it's not their fault if the child hasn't been disciplined at home and therefore doesn't know how to behave in class.

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      Mslabrown48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Okay, yes but I have a student who is a LDS and a majority of his classes are co taught and I have on numerous occasions offer help with getting assistance with technology and my time to request that they send me something as what he's expected and m

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      DaisysJourneyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Mslabrown - if your child has an IEP or 504, the school HAS to provide him with the accommodations/modifications in his learning plan!  The teacher may not have a deep understanding of teaching LDS students.  You may need to be mama bear on this!

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   cjhunsingerposted 10 years ago

   Mslabrown
   To answer your question, we should not, as the price is much to great. Hopefully there are still many good teachers in the classroom, but sadly they are being displaced by the greed for power and money by the unions.There is a greater involvement by the federal government in our schools that seems to be pursuing an anti-exceptional agenda which is rooted in the educational process. We, as a nation, now rank among third world countries in academic achievement and we pale to others in the sciences where the future rests.
   As Hilary Clinton once said in a speech, it takes a village, but is that not where the idiots come from?
   The horror of our educational system is not a stand alone problem  that can be addressed, as a single issue however. Parents or the lack there of is a participant, drugs, promiscuity and babies having babies, The sense of a government sponsored entitlement and wedge issues, race, gender superiority, language, a disavowing of American culture and heritage and the seeming lack of any expectation of individual achievement; all factors.
   Which is the mirrored image, a society and government in  decay or our schools that have failed?
   Thank you for the question Mslabrown.

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      Mslabrown48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      To respond to your answer to my question. Do you have children? How was your educational process?

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Mslabrown-Four sons all college educated. My education, as my wife was 45 to 60 children in a classroom with high expectations of discipline and achievement-

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      Mslabrown48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Okay that being established. Do you know of anyone who has difficulties in learning. Because if you were, I  would hope that if your parents and you yourself expected your children to to the best of their ability and your parents expected the same. W

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Mslabrown--You might what to reword your last post.

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      Mslabrown48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Okay, I was asking that do you know of anyone who has problems learning simple things as to reading well and understanding what they just read? I would like to think that being that your parents expected you to be academically capable of learning.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Mslabrown--Not all are equal, but with that considered there still must be an expectation for achievement, even at a reduced level. A child must feel wanted and important and must have/feel some level of purpose.

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      DaisysJourneyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Mslabrown, I have taught many students w/ learning difficulties.  They ARE teachable, and some of them have been my hardest workers, but others have been disruptive because of fear.  It's my job to change the fear to curiosity.

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   DaisysJourneyposted 10 years ago

   Have you visited your child's classroom?  (And I could ask myself if I've visited every student's home?)
   
   In any given day, I have 125 students. About 27 per class.  My classes are made up of a mix of high ability, on-grade level ability, and struggling ability, as well as special education (either learning disabilities, social issues, special needs, etc).  In that mix, I have students who will work incredibly hard all year and students who will do next to nothing all year.  I had students this year who read at a kindergarten level (in 8th grade) and some who already read at an 11th grade level.  I want all of my kids to succeed because every child is teachable.  But there are some students who don't want to learn.
   
   MOST of the parents I've been in contact with are caring, want their children to succeed and try to be supportive.  I try to celebrate success in my room, even when it's raising someone from kindergarten reading levels to 4th grade reading levels.  That child is still not on grade level, but was able to make some good gains, so celebration is key to keeping him/her encouraged.  And I let all my parents know when their child does something awesome.
   
   But, unfortunately, there are parents who don't support me for whatever reason. The child with 47 absences whose mom says she doesn't want to take the child to school because she doesn't like to get up early.  The parent who curses me out because HER daughter cursed me out.  And a handful of other parents.
   
   I don't think we have a vast number of "Bad parents" out there.  (I think most of our parents want the best for their kids).  But, I do think we have this generational culture of poverty in our urban schools and we have parents who are not as prepared or don't have the resources they need to help out at home.  I think some parents (of all socioeconomic levels) want to be "cool" and will support their child over the teacher.  Other parents always think the teacher is making things up because "Teachers didn't like me when I was in school." and some parents are stressed out (because tweens and teens are wacky when puberty hits!).
   
   When a parent visits my classroom, it's amazing.  She sees what I see, and I admit there's a certain amount of pride when the mom says "behave cuz I like this lady!"  Give us some grace, please!  Hear both sides, visit the classroom, talk to your teacher and your child's other teachers to see how your child behaves for ALL the teachers.  Good luck!  Thank you for asking!

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      Mslabrown48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your comment DaisysJourney. I have been trying to get services for my son for a number of years prior to him entering middle school. He has been in positions where he was made to feel like a outsider and yes he did feel left out of the

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      DaisysJourneyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      This hurts my heart for your son.  I wish you were in my school so I could join you as an advocate for your son's education.  Please keep persevering, talk to his teachers and get Mama Bear aggressive if you have to!

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   Mslabrown48posted 10 years ago

   I feel that sometimes there is a case where the parents are not always working to make sure their children's education is best. But there's a problem with the education system when a bad teacher is not relieved of his or her duties until they commit a no no! Forgive me for saying but it happens and everyone hears about the teacher who abuses their relationships with kids but those seem to be the teachers who sometimes have the students who are not failing unfortunately. But get a teacher who leaves a child on the side lines and feels her job is good because a least the rest of the kids did well. I have been there for the school and every time I try to see things their way, it's hard for me when I communicate with them as much but reciprocating is hard for the teachers. Something much change.

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