Decoding "Fossil" Fuel Myth: Earth Creates Petroleum, It is Unlimited?

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  1. Revirio profile image41
    Revirioposted 3 years ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/15748236_f1024.jpg
    First, we have to understand that the reach of the human hand is limited. We can not go far into the earth. We can not go down and survey the porous aquifer, or the deepest underground water resources. What happens inside the earth -- that -- we do not know.

    When petroleum was first discovered and invented, the Arabs in the Arabic regions were very happy: Now they had got a real handle on the Creator~problem. Now they could say that God exists, because how come the earth-planet emits such a useful thing as petroleum. And, they said, it
    (i.e., petroleum) could be also unlimited? What if the planet earth has some underground mechanism connected to the ocean whereby it creates petroleum hour by hour?

    This happiness among the Arabs became a thing of pain among the intelligentsia of the West. Because it placed Arab religion over the science of the West. So the Western intellects formed a myth, a bogus story that dinosaurs and other such things got inside earth, and over billions of years, it became petroleum. They made it seem limited, when it is unlimited in reality.

    1. Misbah786 profile image81
      Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      https://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_31.html
      Petroleum has become the most important fuel in the production of energy to humans. All interpretations associated with this sentence accepted and have a direct connection with the verse 80 of Surah Yaseen.

      See this:  Mediterranean Journal of Social Sciences -- MCSER Publishing, Rome-Italy Vol 5 --No 19 ---August  2014     

      Topic: Biodiesel in Holy Quran: Among The Review of The Arabic Lexicography and Modern Science

      https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio … rn_Science ( PDF version)

      1. Revirio profile image41
        Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        You are a gem, and you have a keen and studious mind.

        1. Misbah786 profile image81
          Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          The word "gem" reminded me of a friend. I once told a friend, "You're a gem." The response was that everyone is a gem; some are just more polished than others.
          Thank you for your positive words. Greatly appreciated!

          Blessings to you!

          1. Revirio profile image41
            Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            smile

          2. Revirio profile image41
            Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I remember that.

            1. Misbah786 profile image81
              Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

              Have I ever told you about that before? Just Wondering....

              1. Revirio profile image41
                Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                Yes.

  2. Revirio profile image41
    Revirioposted 3 years ago

    It's 11 pm of night here. Bye. I'll meet with you again. We're into this matrix together!

    1. Misbah786 profile image81
      Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Google gives me 2 definitions for the word Matrix:

      1) a mass of fine-grained rock in which gems, crystals, or fossils are embedded.

      2) the cultural, social, or political environment in which something develops.

      I think you are talking about the fossils one. wink


      Good night to you!

      1. Revirio profile image41
        Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        smile

  3. Misbah786 profile image81
    Misbah786posted 3 years ago

    Assume, if it truly ends, what do you believe is the best alternative? Let's explore...

    1. Revirio profile image41
      Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Tesla's solar power solutions for home usage is a good option. Here is a very good video exploring the options that we have in our minds:


      The Empathic Civilization | Jeremy Rifkin | Talks at Google

    2. Revirio profile image41
      Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this
      1. Misbah786 profile image81
        Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Oops... you here? What about a bicycle? Less pollution and no energy needed. It is a great workout as well. So no gym is needed to maintain yourself fit. All easy! Don't dare to think my idea is old-fashioned. wink I can prove it's not.
        https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/04/23/ … le-energy/
        To fuel the bike, the cyclist must eat a bit more food to obtain energy to push the pedals. But that food is a form of renewable energy — it ultimately comes from the sun. And thanks to the bicycle’s marvelous efficiency at converting mechanical power to forward motion, the required energy input is minimal.

        According to the Encyclopedia of Energy, bicycles can cover a given distance using one-thousandth of the fuel that an automobile uses. If we were to rely on crop-based fuels for automobiles, there would be a concern about using up all our farmland to provide fuel for transportation. Not so with using food to fuel humans riding bicycles.

        It’s with a reduction in oil use that bicycling really trumps the other renewable resources. Wind and solar displace electricity, which in the U.S. is generated almost entirely with coal and natural gas to the extent fossil fuels are used. Accordingly, windmills and solar panels displace very little petroleum. It’s our transportation sector that is oil-based, which means that bicycling principally displaces oil.

        1. Revirio profile image41
          Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          +1.

        2. Revirio profile image41
          Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this
          1. Misbah786 profile image81
            Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Though, I would prefer a manual bicycle. It's fun. smile

            1. Revirio profile image41
              Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              smile

              1. Misbah786 profile image81
                Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                I removed the links two of them were gov. links. smile
                ¿Estás ocupado?

                1. Revirio profile image41
                  Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Me quedan 40 minutos. Entonces comenzará el programa de televisión "Do Took".

                  1. Misbah786 profile image81
                    Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                    Ah, okay! @9  right?

  4. Misbah786 profile image81
    Misbah786posted 3 years ago

    Very nice and interesting video though it was uploaded 11-years ago. big_smile Thank you for sharing!

    1) He said that the fault lies with: our government and business leaders are relying on 18th-century ideas. They are very old fashion I know. lol!
    2) What Google needs to do is prepare a global civilization. I agree they have brought the human races altogether, Have created a biosphere consciousness.
    3) If human nature is as the Enlightenment philosophers claimed, then we are likely doomed. It is impossible to imagine how we might create a sustainable global economy and restore the biosphere to health if each and every one of us is, at the core of our biology, an autonomous agent and a self-centered and materialistic being.
    4) What is the mission? (it's ours) Our mission is to help prepare the groundwork for an empathic Civilization( It connects the evolution of communication and energy development in civilizations with psychological and economic development in humans.) Let's help them to lead the way into this new era.
    5) He said that their CEOs are two different institutions i.e. Global companies and the world's Cooperatives.
    6) He said, If we don't do the energy savings, we will lose. They believe all energy has to be local. Whatever business emerge has to be local.
    7) In the 21st century, hundreds of millions--and eventually billions--of human beings will transform their buildings into power plants to harvest renewable energies on-site, store those energies in the form of hydrogen and share electricity, peer-to-peer, across local, regional, national and continental inter-grids that act much like the Internet. The open-source sharing of energy, like open source sharing of information, will give rise to collaborative energy spaces--not unlike the collaborative social spaces that currently exist on the Internet.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-empa … n_b_416589

    I was working on one of my drafts when I saw notification of your response. I am writing an article on forgiveness according to different schools of thought with the help of the HubPages community (we are discussing the topic of forgiveness on a broader level on a forum post). I have posted a forum discussion and have discovered a lot of new ideas and concepts regarding forgiveness.
    https://hubpages.com/education/forum/35 … orgiveness
    It's a long conversation. And I'm having trouble with the article as well. I don't believe it can be accomplished in a single piece. I suppose it must be in parts. It discusses psychological, philosophical, sociological, and political grounds for forgiveness, among other things. I wanted to make it unique, like nowhere else on the web, so I created a survey, and several respected people assisted me by providing their feedback. Now I'm attempting to compile all of the data. smile

    1. Revirio profile image41
      Revirioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      +1.

  5. Misbah786 profile image81
    Misbah786posted 3 years ago

    A very interesting fact is that all our energy comes from the sun, one way or another. No? The sky is the limit but there is a lot beyond the sky as well. smile
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvett … 28e22165ed

    1. wilderness profile image89
      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Some 440 nuclear plants are in operation in the world, producing around 10% of the world's power.  Not one KW of that production came from the sun.

      1. Misbah786 profile image81
        Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Nuclear energy is perhaps more correctly called a form of stellar energy. It's called  Nuclear fission

        **Two types of energies nuclear fission and fussion. So what's the difference?

        In the core of the Sun hydrogen is being converted into helium. This is called nuclear fusion. It takes four hydrogen atoms to fuse into each helium atom. During the process some of the mass is converted into energy.

        Nuclear fission= Nuclear power plant ( technically powered by sun) here's how?

        **Fission is the splitting of atoms, either by radioactive decay or by collisional impact. Certainly radioactive decay occurs because the sun contains many radioactive isotopes including thorium, uranium etc. Basically fission happens irrespective of any environmental constraints because it is an intrinsic property of radioactive nuclides.

        "Although the energy produced by fission is comparable to what is produced by fusion, the core of the sun is dominated by hydrogen and at temperatures where hydrogen fusion is possible, so that the dominant source of energy per cubic meter is in fusion rather then the fission of very low abundance radioisotopes. Fission is not a significant source of energy so long as the temperatures and densities are high enough for fusion to occur."

        https://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/a11197.html


        Another Important Question: Is sun a star?

        Answer: Yes, it is. The Sun is a 4.5 billion-year-old yellow dwarf star – a hot glowing ball of hydrogen and helium – at the center of our solar system. It’s about 93 million miles (150 million kilometers) from Earth and it’s our solar system’s only star. Without the Sun’s energy, life as we know it could not exist on our home planet.

        From our vantage point on Earth, the Sun may appear like an unchanging source of light and heat in the sky. But the Sun is a dynamic star, constantly changing and sending energy out into space. The science of studying the Sun and its influence throughout the solar system is called heliophysics.

        See this: https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/solar-system/sun/in-depth/

        In nuclear fission, atoms are split apart, which releases energy. All nuclear power plants use nuclear fission, and most nuclear power plants use uranium atoms. During nuclear fission, a neutron collides with a uranium atom and splits it, releasing a large amount of energy in the form of heat and radiation. More neutrons are also released when a uranium atom splits. These neutrons continue to collide with other uranium atoms, and the process repeats itself over and over again. This process is called a nuclear chain reaction. This reaction is controlled in nuclear power plant reactors to produce a desired amount of heat.

        Nuclear energy can also be released in nuclear fusion, where atoms are combined or fused together to form a larger atom. Fusion is the source of energy in the sun and stars.

        https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/

        **Does the sun do nuclear fission?

        Although the energy produced by fission is comparable to what is produced by fusion, the core of the sun is dominated by hydrogen and at temperatures where hydrogen fusion is possible, so that the dominant source of energy per cubic meter is in fusion rather then the fission of very low abundance radioisotopes.

        https://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/a11197.html

        The fusion neutrons have more than enough energy to cause fission. Hence, proved sun still plays important part. Without fusion there would be no fission.

        ***Without fusion, there would be no life on Earth.
        ***The fusion neutrons have more than enough energy to cause fission.
        ****There are two main advantages of fusion over fission. First, fusion reactions produce absolutely enormous amounts of energy, much more than fission reactions. The other main advantage is that fusion does not produce radioactive, toxic waste products like fission does.

        https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/de … ion-381097

        So what makes the star shine?

        https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/St … ion13.html

        It's complicated and tricky but the  source is 'sun' and interesting fact is that 'The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System'

        1. wilderness profile image89
          wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          I'm sorry, but nothing you have said here indicates that the fission of Uranium (or any other fissionable fuel) requires the sun.  It doesn't.

          In fact, all heavy elements have come from stars, far off stars that went nova, and in that manner a star is necessary even if it died billions of years age.  But not our sun.

          Beyond that, we will undoubtedly one day learn to control fusion (we can produce it now, but cannot control it) and will likely use that as a source of energy.  But it still won't come from our sun.

        2. profile image0
          Poetic Phantomposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          This seems tricky but yes technically everything is coming from Sun as you said Sun itself is a star. I think, we can use thorium instead of uranium in future as an alternative.
          Thorium is an element that can be used as a fuel in the nuclear cycle. It is an alternative to uranium, and the technology to facilitate the use of thorium has been around since the 1960s.

  6. bhattuc profile image84
    bhattucposted 3 years ago

    It will be a matter of great joy and happiness if the source of petroleum is unlimited and is being manufacture somewhere deep in the earth hour by hour!
    The future sources of energy are going to be primarily the battery electric power, solar power, and nuclear power. What will be the ratio of them that only the coming time will be disclosing to us. Because of safety reasons we do not know what will be the future of nuclear energy but solar and electric batteries are going to be there in a big way.

    1. wilderness profile image89
      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      While it's true that batteries produce energy from chemical reactions, that energy is severely limited (how long does an AA battery last).  Mostly batteries are a method of storing energy, by recharging the battery, which requires a different source for that energy.  Wind, tidal, geo-thermal, solar, nuclear, petroleum, etc.

      1. profile image0
        Poetic Phantomposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I think, we can use solar energy to charge batteries. Interesting discussion

        1. wilderness profile image89
          wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Absolutely we can, and do.  Just my opinion, but in the short term I expect to see humanity use more and more solar energy, and less and less from fossil fuels.

          Eventually it will likely go to fusion, but that could be decades of centuries in the future.

 
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