What do you think about this quote from the movie FURY?
Brad Pitt's character says, "Ideals are peaceful. History is violent."
Do you agree? What do you think it means?
I would say that history when you are living it is often unpredictable. It only begins to make sense years after the events. The ideals of Engels and Marx resulted, in the 20th Century, in forms of communism that did not meet their ideals. And they were violent forms at that. The idealists of the 19th Century did not have crystal balls and could not know where their ideals would lead the people of the 20th Century.
Many national anthems have violence in them. Certainly this is true when it comes to bombs bursting in air with the US anthem and there is blood in the French anthem. Many people get their freedom through violence. Surprisingly, the Australian national anthem is rather peaceful since federation came about through peaceful means.
Ideally the First World War was to be a six month do in which Australian soldiers got a nice trip overseas and arrived in Europe in time to do garrison duty before heading home again. It didn't quite work out that way.
The path of history is shaped by warfare, and war is decidedly violent. With the use of explosive devices, it is often a random violence, so it's not a matter of selection. Whether a highly principled, well-motivated individual or a self-serving coward, there's no "merit system" involved; if you commit (or are committed) to war, you are at risk. Whether combatant or noncombatant, only the most sophisticated weapons technology or a selective approach (e.g., a sniper) allow us to discriminate.
We observe that those circumstances, abuses or injustices that have developed in history have had to be addressed by war, so there are legitimate reasons for conflict. I haven't seen the movie, so I haven't heard the statement in context, but I have to agree with the statement.
I would agree with both points. I would love to know the context more. Its true, ideals are peaceful, comforting at times even. Life is not always idea however, and history is made up the lives of so many. The quote seems kind of random, an oxymoron, but they seem to just be two comments next to each other. Both are true.
The second part about history is interesting, because some history isn't violent. Perhaps it is seen as such because the most violent things make the news and long term they have staying power. Innocent life lost is recorded for our good, even though so violent, because we hope to not repeat that violent history. Some do anyway. An interesting question thanks for asking.
Evidence does suggest the quote contains a large amount of truth.
The process of growing or evolving always seems to involve some level of destruction of a current known existence against resistance.
Not much in life comes easily or without a (price) to pay.
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