Fear of Facebook - Are we virtually losing touch with reality?

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   francetalesposted 15 years ago

   *not feeling it*

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      What Misha is saying (I think) is that there is a difference between some one who spams the forums all the time, being called a "spammer. "
      
      And you - who dropped a link to the same hub in at least 5 forum threads. And was told that was spam.
      
      I told you the same thing.
      
      But, you are not a spammer because you do not do that all the time.
      
      You were excited about a blog post and you wanted to tell everyone about it.
      
      But you chose to leave the same link and message on several forum threads at the same time.
      
      That is spam.
      
      You are not a spammer.
      
      Unless you do the same thing tomorrow. And the day after. Then you will be banned. Misha is giving you good advice.

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         Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Mark,
         Yeah, that was pretty much my point.
         I never thought I have to go into such detail with adult, let alone teacher...
         Because telling a kid "you are a loser" brings up losers, "you are a thief" brings up thieves, etc. In my ivory tower I thought every teacher should be aware of this... Guess it was another illusion...

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   Mishaposted 15 years ago

   And you teach children? No wonder public education is a failure if teachers do not feel the difference here... every kid does, btw, online and offline...

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   francetalesposted 15 years ago

   *still not feeling it*
   
   You cannot bait me into some silly argument. I must have been such a terrible teacher in the US because the best aviation graduate school in France hired me to teach English. I must be the cause of "the failure" of public education. I really must not know what I am doing.

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   SweetiePieposted 15 years ago

   Francestales,
   
   If you believe in yourself that is all that matters .

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   Mishaposted 15 years ago

   LOL, the same difference is here. I never told you you are the reason of public education failure
   
   And, while your English and French skills may be excellent, I think your skills in psychology and especially children psychology need some refreshing/improvement.

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   SweetiePieposted 15 years ago

   In the end no one really knows.  I had teachers that I thought were excellent and that other people did not like and vice versa.  Each teacher has a special gift, and I think everyone has something to contribute in this lifetime.  In the end none of this matters.

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   Neil Sperlingposted 15 years ago

   In my hub - "Does Mentoring online work" - I give a perfect example of how the internet can enhance relationship building. 
   
   I also agree with Misha - "even partial restricting does not work"
   
   I think the Solution is simple with kids (not easy, just simple) - teach kids to think for themselves - to look at the big picture........ but more than that! - "look at the picture through different frames."
   
   That is an NLP technique where you do not change the picture you view - but if look at it from different points of view, thus we would see different things. Changing the frame around the picture of life truly makes the picture of life different.

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   francetalesposted 15 years ago

   Misha
   you said, do you feel it, and I repsonded *not feeling it*, ummmm that's irony or satire or something like me saying yes I understand your point but I'm not feeling it, it doesn't mean I don't understand it, and then you go on to attack my intelligence and ability as a teacher. Maybe your social skills are what needs brushing up on. I would never think I knew someone well enough through a few forum posts to say such things. I cannot find where I personally attacked you but I can find a few examples of personal attacks on your part.
   
   BTW
   I agree with you about the limiting use doesn't work. I'm against limiting as a way to "save" children from the perils of Facebook, Myspace, *insert this months new evil here*. The use of limiting to "set limits" for children to provide structure and expectation is important, but that can be done with anything.
   
   If a child wants to spend 8 hours a day on Myspace a parent has already failed somewhere else. There is a bigger problem than Myspace and limiting use of Myspace is not going to address that problem. The problem didn't begin with Myspace ad is not going to end with limiting Myspace use. That's a cop out. Limits need to be set well in advance of a problem. Limits should be proactive and not reactive. When limits are in reactive they almost always fail.

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      Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      As most arguments online and offline, this seems to be a result of misunderstanding. I definitely misunderstood what you tried to say, hence my reaction I'm glad we are more or less on the same page now. I don't think I made any personal attack on you, but if you feel that way, I apologize.
      
      My social skills definitely are not perfect, and I am working hard on improving them, thank you for pointing this out
      
      To avoid further misunderstanding, please take a note that enclosing words into stars does not make them sound ironic. This syntax is reserved for expressing something there are no smilies for - or for using instead of all caps. Also, using irony in multi-cultural communication often gets misinterpreted, and I try to avoid it as much as I can.

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   francetalesposted 15 years ago

   What a nice message. I don't usually get too upset when people criticize teachers and the job they do because it just simply is not possible to imagine what it is like if you haven't done it before. And if you have, you generally don't say the kind of things that get said by the criticizers.
   
   It is easy to come across mean if you are dealing with children who don't have limits and expectations set at home and are not used to it. It used to bother me but now I know what I am doing so if little Johnny doesn't like me tough.
   
   Good teachers are the most hard working people I have ever met. Teaching is not a job you can do half heartedly. Sure there are some that try, but they usually quit. It is too tough a job to not fully committ to it.
   
   Bon Courage, as the French say, never Bon Chance or good luck.

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      SweetiePieposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry I made you look silly.  That was not my intention.  I did not even see you had posted a reply.  I think teaching is a very challenging job and I comment you .

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    LOL you seem to talk to yourself Francetales
    
    Well, I witness there was a post from Sweetiepie here Francetales is answering. Why she deleted it is beyond my understanding.

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    SweetiePieposted 15 years ago

    Honestly I delete some comments because I reconsider what people will say.  However, all I was saying was as a former substitute teacher I commend teachers and I think they deserve lots of respect. 
    
    Also, saying things are beyond your understanding is sort of silly.  I have my reasons, please think before you speak .

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       Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Hey, lady, you made Francetales looking silly. Usually people apologize when they make something like this unintentionally.
       And I don't see anything silly in saying that something is beyond my understanding when it is

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    SweetiePieposted 15 years ago

    Stop calling me hey lady.  I did not see Francestales had posted this.  I am sorry if it looked funny, but in all the times I have posted anything Misha, you have never made one complimentary comment towards me.  I have my reasons as I reconsidered what people would say about my post.  You compliment other ladies on the forums make nice comments towards them, but not once with me.  Stop telling me how to behave because I think you should behave more nicely also.  You could try making a nice comment about what I say once and while rather than always challenging me.

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       Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I love you, too
       Why don't you try to make some nice comment towards me instead of following me around the forums, opposing whatever I say, and trying to command me? I surely will reciprocate. Remember old saying - what goes around comes around?
       Oh, and I actually like one of your previous avatars - the one with a necklace

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    SweetiePieposted 15 years ago

    Oh thank you about my necklace.  However, I actually do not follow you around the forums LOL.  I thought your driving hubs were always interesting.

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       JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       dear sweetiepie,
       Though you have not mentioned my name, I hope it is me, who have written a hubpage on necklace.
       Are you satisfied with the same?
       If not pls tell me.
       Jyoti Kothari

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       webismineposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       SweetiePie, you always come up with interesting avatars and I like the way you describe your avatars in your profile page

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          SweetiePieposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks, did not see your nice comment until just now. 

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Thanks Sweetiepie!

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    JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years ago

    there is a good joke about;
    It was 2000. Not many Indians using e-mail at that time.A non resident Indian came to India seating with his friends described ' Hey,do you know , in USA we do marriage with E-mail'.
    One of the friends replied ' Oh! we still do it with the female only.'
    Jyoti Kothari

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       dingdongposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Nice Old Joke, but good recall..!

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    Ms Soozposted 15 years ago

    I think that if you are worried about your children adopting bad habits with social networking, then you need to set an example for your children.
    
    Often we are so busy with our "adult" lives that we forget that our kids are not simply our kids, but young humans who are learning how to act thru numerous means like parents, friends, the internet, tv, radio etc. If you do not effectively interact with your children, they will not learn how to effectively deal with people regardless of how great they interact on Facebook, Myspace etc.
    
    Of course, I don't have any children! But, I have learned that parents are one of the most important influences to their children. You don't have to be perfect, you just have to pay attention to the little buggers
    
    Anyways, my opinion only! Sometimes I wish the world is not as reliant on technology- but then again I wish I lived in Japan (the tech nation!) so I guess i'm a hypocrit! LOL
    
    It's good to read these forums, I've only been on here 2 months, and I really enjoy everyone!
    
    -Ms. Sooz

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    patnamohanposted 15 years ago

    

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    LOL sort of. But kids can be much more instrumental than this, you probably just don't remember your worst moments, or still don't perceive them as such

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    DonnaCSmithposted 15 years ago

    Actually, Facebook has helped me stay in touch with real friends. I used to run a boarding and lesson barn. I have retired from it, but a group of my students and clients and I are facebook friends. We share photos of horses, pets and events in our lives. We get together in real life when we can, but since distance, time and life prevent us doing that very often we love meeting online.
    
    I have met several people in real life after meeting them on line via forums and email. So, I think the internet has actually enhanced my contact with the "real" world.

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    carpesomediemposted 15 years ago

    Does anyone remember the days when Facebook was exclusively for use amongst college kids?  Back then, it was about keeping in touch with friends, things like that, but now that it's opened to everyone, it's lost that connection with folks like me who were there from the start.

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