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Merry Christmas! Or Happy Holidays!?

Updated on November 13, 2016

Tis the Season of Love and Joy!

Why are so many people worked up over these simple words that should symbolize happiness and joy? There are several holidays being celebrated throughout the month of December, some religious, some not, yet some people seem to think their particular holiday should take precedence over everyone else’s. The loudest voices seem to be those of Christians who are angry that Christmas is no longer viewed as the main celebration of the season.

As a Christian, I believe Christianity is supposed to exemplify love, peace, kindness, mercy, forgiveness, and charity, as did our Lord Jesus Christ when He was here on this Earth. Yet sadly, when I look around I do not always see self described Christians exhibiting these qualities.

Holiday Celebrations in December

Peace on Earth Good Will Toward Men
Peace on Earth Good Will Toward Men | Source
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Family celebrating Kwanzaa | Source
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Thanks to http://lovefromtheoven.com | Source

The Merry Christmas versus Happy Holidays Grumble Is Back Again

Recently I read where one person wrote the following:

“I am sick and tired of every year when CHRISTMAS comes around, there are people who want to take CHRIST out of CHRISTMAS. It might offend someone. Well how about all of the CHRISTIANS? What about offending us because you are taking our CHRIST out of CHRISTMAS!?!? CHRIST IS CHRISTMAS!!! If you aren't celebrating CHRIST then why are you celebrating? CHRISTMAS is about the birth of our SAVIOR! CHRISTMAS is one of a few holidays left that celebrate my CHRIST! Leave my holiday alone!!! And tell everyone MERRY CHRISTMAS, not Happy Holidays! Repost if your not ashamed”

A Few December Holidays Coming Up

Here is a list of a few of the holidays that take place between December 1st and New Year’s Day around the world:

6 - St. Nicholas Day (International)

8 - Bodhi Day - Buddha's Enlightenment (Buddhist)

12 - Virgin of Guadalupe (Mexico)

12 - Mildad un Nabi (Islamic)

13 - Santa Lucia Day (Sweden)

16 - Las Posadas (Mexico -- December 16 though December 25, 2016)

21 - Yule, or the Winter Solstice

25 - Christmas (Christian, Roman Catholic, International)

25 - Hanukkah (December 25, 2016 through January 1, 2017)

26 - Boxing Day (Canada, United Kingdom)

26 - Kwanzaa (African-American - Dec. 26, 2016 - Jan 1, 2017)

January 1 New Year’s Day

(Most of the dates on the above list were found on the Interfaith Calendar. You can access that calendar in its entirety by clicking here. There are in fact several more holidays on the world calendar, but I listed the main ones here so that people can see that the month of December does not belong to Christians alone.

More December Celebrations

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Santa Lucia celebration | Source
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Thomas Kinkade Christmas Chapel | Source

The USA Is Becoming More Diverse Everyday -- Whatever Happened To Religious Freedom? To Peace On Earth Good Will Toward Men . . .

The person who wrote the rant above about some nameless mythical person taking the Christ out of his/her Christmas must not be aware that the United States is a very diverse country and becoming more so every day.

There are hundreds of thousands of people living here who have celebrations during the month of December, but not Christmas celebrations. Is Christmas the only winter holiday that should be recognized in this country? Have Christians become so self-centered that they cannot allow for anyone else’s celebration?

Just as the writer of the rant above wants to know why someone is taking the Christ out of his/her Christmas, many of these people who do not celebrate Christmas are probably wondering why they must have Christ forced into their special holiday, and why Christmas supersedes their special holiday.

The United States is supposed to be a place where people have religious freedom. Many people came to this New World to be able to worship as they wished without fear of persecution. What has happened to that attitude of tolerance? Are we to reinstate the inquisition for people who do not worship as Christians believe they should?

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Jesus Christ Should Be a Part of Everything Christians Do Everyday

Let me just say that as a Christian, I believe Jesus Christ should be included in everything we do every day all day long. If that is not possible then perhaps we should rethink what we are doing that we cannot include Him in whatever it is.

It is my humble opinion that no one can take Christ out of our homes, or our hearts, unless we allow that to happen. Mere words like Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays have no bearing on whether or not Christ resides in our homes and our hearts. The fact that everyone in the world is not celebrating Christ does not prevent me (or you) from doing so every single day.

Tailor your holiday message to the person.  Be inclusive.
Tailor your holiday message to the person. Be inclusive. | Source

Tailor Your Celebratory Message To the Person and Be Inclusive

There is no reason we cannot say Merry Christmas to acquaintances, family, and friends, whom we know are celebrating Christmas, but if we are not sure, then wishing someone Happy Holidays would seem to be the considerate thoughtful thing to do instead. Christians are supposed to be thoughtful and considerate are they not?

Happy Holidays is a good way to include everyone in the many celebrations taking place in December, instead of singling out one particular group or favoring one particular group over another. The origin of holiday is holy day. What is wrong with saying “Happy Holy Days” to people, so as to be inclusive rather than exclusive?

When Did Christmas Really Originate?

In fact, Christmas was celebrated in some form for centuries before Jesus Christ came to this world, and many of the Christmas traditions people around the world, and especially here in the United States enjoy, are rooted in Winter Solstice, Yule, Saturnalia, and other celebrations pre Christ (http://www.historyofchristmas.net/). In so many ways, Christmas is just Winter Solstice, or one of these other festivals, with a new name.

These same festivals are still celebrated to varying degrees around the world all these centuries later, so what makes you think Jesus is the reason for the season when the holiday season existed long before He was born? When the holidays were celebrated in virtually the same manner before He was born as they are now?

Jesus may be the reason why YOU celebrate the season, but He may not be the reason other people are doing so. It would be great if everyone were a Christian, but here in the United States we are a country of religious tolerance where everyone may worship – or not – according to their own beliefs.

No One Can Take Christ Out of Your Christmas or Out Your Heart Except YOU

There are so many more important things taking place in our world, it seems a waste of energy to me that we are arguing over whether we should say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. Why not put all that energy to work helping the millions of homeless people, unemployed, and underemployed people, in our country?

For years now, I have said that the best sermon is the one you live, not the one you preach. Show how much you love Christ by doing His work and helping the less fortunate this holiday season -- and all throughout the New Year, until they are back on their feet and able to help themselves again.

Jesus not only came to give His life to pay for our sins, but to set an example of how He wants Christians to conduct themselves. It seems to me the qualities He exemplified were forgiveness, mercy, charity, patience, kindness, and yes, a decided impatience and contempt for arrogance and selfishness.

If your Christmas joy is so dependent on hearing “Merry Christmas” from everyone you come into contact with, how meaningful can it be in the first place when a few words can ruin it for you?

The Spirit of Christmas used to be that time of the year when we think about people other than ourselves. A time when we forget about our own selfish wants for a little while and concentrate instead on the needs and happiness of other people, especially those less fortunate. Why don’t we bring that spirit back to Christmas, stop warring over words, and start doing the work God has assigned to us?

No one can take Christ out of your day, your Christmas, your home, your heart, or your life -- except YOU.

© 2011 C E Clark

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      Robert Sacchi 10 months ago

      Good points.

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      C E Clark 10 months ago from North Texas

      Robert Sacchi, those people who insist on pushing Christmas onto people who want no part of Christmas or Christianity are already considered rude -- just not by people like themselves. They are the minority. They seem like the majority because they are loud and obnoxious.

      I think mainly people want to believe the worst lies they hear because there is no law written (government law) or not written (social law) that says a person can't wish someone a Merry Christmas if they want to. Just as there is no law against praying in school or anywhere else.

      It is only the few ignorant people who either don't know there is no law preventing them from praying wherever they please or using the holiday greeting of their choice, or who refuse to accept that no such laws exist, who continue to carp about not being able to pray in public places or greet people with Merry Christmas.

      Maybe it's a good thing these people refuse to acknowledge they really have nothing to whine about and that in fact nothing is preventing them from doing these things, because if they did, they might start forcing their beliefs onto other people more forcefully.

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      Robert Sacchi 10 months ago

      Yes, exactly. I wonder if Mr. Scrooge getting annoyed when someone says "Merry Christmas" will some time in the future be considered normal and those characters who insist on telling him "Merry Christmas" will be considered rude.

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      C E Clark 10 months ago from North Texas

      Yes, to accommodate a lot of people it is sometimes necessary to call a celebration something other than Christmas or Hannakah, etc. A lot of employees means some of them may not be Christian, though nowadays many nonChristians celebrate Christmas, just not the Jesus part.

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      Robert Sacchi 10 months ago

      This year is seemed more in the what is/is not proper to say. For example an office End of Year Party instead of a Christmas Party. Sort of like what clothes are out of style I suppose.

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      C E Clark 10 months ago from North Texas

      Robert Sacchi, there were no headline stealing incidents this year regarding the Christmas greeting unless you count Mr. Trump saying that Merry Christmas will now be acceptable again. Some people took him seriously and joyfully started shouting Merry Christmas again when really they need never have stopped.

      There is no law regarding this issue after all, except that the state (government) cannot promote any particular religion above others, so if you're on the government clock you have to restrain yourself until after you clock out. Anyone not on the government clock can say whatever they want wherever they happen to be.

      I have never had anyone tell me I couldn't say Merry Christmas or anything else regarding a holiday greeting. I have heard several people say people tried to force them to act otherwise, but I have never personally experienced that. Far as I can tell it's all in their own minds. The whole Merry Christmas wars thing seems ridiculous to me even if they are/were real, and I have no hard evidence that they were.

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      Robert Sacchi 11 months ago

      I can't think of any lawsuits or other complaints this year. Maybe I'm missing them or maybe people have drawn the same conclusion you have on the subject.

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      C E Clark 11 months ago from North Texas

      Robert Sacchi, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this subject. I apologize for taking so long to get back to you. Today are the first comments I've responded to in nearly 2 months and so we are now in the Christmas season as it happens. I do think people put too much energy into trying to force others to accept their own beliefs. I really think there are more important issues in the world that need to be addressed than how one greets others during the holidays or whether a creche is on public property.

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      Robert Sacchi 13 months ago

      It seems the Christian vs Secular argument is as much a part of the season as anything else. Some kind of protest or lawsuit is bound to crop up this fall concerning a holiday display or something. I guess the litigious folks also need to celebrate the holidays in their own way.

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      C E Clark 18 months ago from North Texas

      Shyron, thank you for coming by and bringing attention to this article. People should express the greeting that most suits them during the holidays or whenever. Unless you work for a government agency, there is nothing to stop you from saying whatever you wish. Forcing people to say one thing or another is wrong, whether it's the Donald's idea or somebody else's.

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      Shyron E Shenko 20 months ago from Texas

      Au fait, I just heard the Donald say how we will be saying "Merry Christmas" we I have news for the Donald. I never stopped saying Merry Christmas.

      Hope all is well with you.

      Blessings my dear friend

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      C E Clark 21 months ago from North Texas

      Colorfulone, thank you for commenting and sharing your thoughts!

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      Susie Lehto 21 months ago from Minnesota

      I love to say Merry Christmas, Au fait. But, at time I will say Happy Holidays too. I will always proclaim that Jesus Christ is the Reason for the Season. It is He that I celebrate. - God Bless!

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      C E Clark 22 months ago from North Texas

      Paul Kuehn, thank you for reading and commenting on this article. It's unfortunate so many people are consumed with such a minor issue in the season of love. Thanks for the shares also. Hope all is well with you and yours!

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      Paul Richard Kuehn 22 months ago from Udorn City, Thailand

      This is another well-written article which I enjoyed reading. I agree that a lot of people are making a big deal of saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. As a country of religious tolerance, we should accept that not all people are Christians. What is disturbing is that many people feel that in the name of political correctness Happy Holidays must be used instead of Merry Christmas. On this point, I will be politically incorrect! I am sharing this hub with HP followers and also Facebook followers. Go Packers!

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Peggy W., thank you for sharing his article! I hope people will stop focusing on the greetings and start concentrating instead on the reason for the season -- love and joy!

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      Peggy Woods 2 years ago from Houston, Texas

      This very subject came up recently with someone and as we are nearing the holiday season I am sure more people will be having their own thoughts regarding the subject. Sharing your well written article again as it seems topical to the upcoming season of year.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Prasetio30, thank you for stopping by. If you celebrate Christmas, I hope yours was happy and peaceful. May God bless you and your family with a healthful, prosperous, joyful year, all through 2014!

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you pstraubie48 for reading and sharing your thoughts on this issue. I agree with everything you wrote here. This was originally published in December 2011, so it's enjoyed a lot of views over the last 2 years. I don't know if it has made any difference in how people look at this silly argument about which greeting is best, but I do agree with you that bickering over it is petty and I'm sure it puts sadness on the angel's faces to hear that bickering at a time when people should be happy and grateful.

      Thank you for your kind wishes and blessings. I hope the same for you and your family along with a healthy, happy, peaceful New Year all through 2014!

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Peggy W for stopping by and for your good wishes! Hope you and your family's Christmas was peaceful and happy and that this coming New Year will be the same.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Shyron, thank you for the votes, the share, your positive comment, and most of all for being my best friend!

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Rebeccamealey, thank you for reading and commenting!

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Deborah-Diane for reading and sharing your thoughts on this issue. I think it is so sad that a lot of people allow this issue to patronize their thoughts every year at Christmas. It seems simple to me. Wish those people a merry Christmas if you know they are Christians, and if you're not sure, be considerate of their feelings and say happy holidays. To do otherwise is to suggest everyone who is not celebrating Christmas is misguided.

      Whatever the reason, it is every person's right not to celebrate or recognize Christmas just as it is the right of Christians to do the opposite. Freedom of religion is not a one-way street, not does it mean forcing one's own religious beliefs onto other people.

      Jesus was not into dissonance of any kind. He likes order and harmony. The best sermon is the one you live, not the one you preach, yell, scream, etc. People learn from those they respect and people who go about living their beliefs quietly and respectfully of others have far more influence on the people around them than people who are continually at odds over even the smallest things.

      Thank you Deborah-Diane for being one of my best friends here on HP and for your kind words. I try to be as balanced with my articles as possible and to provide my sources so that people have a starting point if they want to explore further and learn more.

      This article is, however, entirely my own take on this issue of the Merry Christmas wars. I just think it is so sad that anyone gets so deeply involved in this issue instead of enjoying the season and making it as much as possible, a season of love, kindness, and inclusion -- if only it would last all year long!

      Happy Christmas to you and your family!

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      prasetio30 3 years ago from malang-indonesia

      This Christmas tree just for you. It brings with it hope, joy, love and peace. Merry Christmas, my friend. God bless you.

      Prasetio

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      Patricia Scott 3 years ago from sunny Florida

      hi Living our lives like every day is Christmas and putting Christ at the forefront of that would make this issue a moot point it would seem.

      At least on one side of the issue. I have just recently posted on this topic as well because my ears were tired of hearing the bickering and disdain on this issue.

      A month when we should let go of the pettiness should be this one for sure.

      Thanks for sharing this AuFait and Merry Christmas to you and Happy Holidays to all who do not celebrate Christmas.

      Angels are on the way to you this morning ps

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      Peggy Woods 3 years ago from Houston, Texas

      This seemed like a natural one to revisit and once again share. Happy Holidays to you and those you love.

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      Rebecca Mealey 3 years ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

      This is a question we all wonder about. I usually say Happy Holidays on line, but here at home it is Merry Christmas all the way. Good Hub!

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Merry Christmas Au fait, my dear friend.

      I agree with everything in this hub.

      Voted up, UAI, and shared

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      Deborah-Diane 3 years ago from Orange County, California

      I agree with you completely that Christians should exemplify love and acceptance. I have relatives of many different faiths, including Jews and Muslims. I know they are faithful to their religion and it is important to them, so I respect them for it. I tend to wish people Happy Holidays, and that is what I have printed on my Christmas cards. My Christian faith is important to me, but I don't expect it to be important to everyone.

      Au fait: I have so much respect for your well-researched articles, and I enjoy reading them very much. I really enjoy your friendship here. Since I know from this article that you, too, are Christian, I wish you and your family and very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Sam, for your kind wishes. It's warmed up considerably here, in the 60s, and may reach 70 by Thursday. Winter will be back eventually, but for now the ice is melted and winter coats are only necessary for the native Texans who think anything under 90 degree F. is cold. Happy Christmas!

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      samowhamo 3 years ago

      Thank you Au Fait. I actually have seen Prancer that was one of my favorite films as a child I haven't seen it in a long time though. One of my other favorite Christmas movies is National Lampoons Christmas Vacation that movie is hilarious. Have a Merry Christmas Au Fait and may you and your family be safe my good friend. :)

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Sam (Samowhamo), hank you for stopping by and sharing your thoughts and memories on Christmas. I like a Christmas Carol too. I especially like the movie with Michael Caine playing Scrooge -- A Muppets Christmas Carol. If you haven't seen it, check it out at your local library. It's pretty funny at times, and Caine is my favorite Scrooge.

      You might also like the Christmas movie called 'Prancer.' It was one of my daughter's favorites and still is.

      Thanks for the votes and your kind words too, Sam. You are one of my best friends too.

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      samowhamo 3 years ago

      My favorite Christmas story has always been A Christmas Carol mainly because it's a good story and because it teaches people what Christmas is truly supposed to mean (the Ghost of Christmas Present has always been one of my favorite characters in the story).

      Voted up and beautiful Au Fait I hope everything is fine where you live and have a Merry Christmas you are a not just my best follower but you have also become a very good friend to me here on hubpages. :)

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you moonlake for sharing and pinning this hub! Before you know it, we'll be looking back at Christmas. Time goes too fast!

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Shyron, for sharing your heritage, and your thoughts on this issue. I really think people make too much out of a few words and should concentrate instead on the things that matter. The spirit of their special holiday and the ways in which they can make the world a better place for all regardless of religious beliefs.

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      moonlake 4 years ago from America

      Came back to share and pin this hub. You reminded me that Christmas is not far off.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Galadriel Arwen, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this issue. I don't think there is anything in the text of this article that disagrees with you, other than to say that businesses often bow to the wishes of their customers in the name of staying in business, not because any law requires them to do so.

      I'm sure you must realize that social pressures, regardless of the law, can be very influential if only because people who do not conform end up suffering, often financially. It's easy to say they shouldn't give in if you are not the person whose business is going broke, or you are not the person who can't get a job because you refuse to go along.

      Living under a bridge can be really tough no matter how right your position on holidays or religion may be. God may eventually reward you, but it can be an extremely difficult time while you wait for that reward.

      Personally, I think too many people depend on other people to give them happiness through submission to their wishes. My relationship with God is not dependent on other people or what greeting or wish they speak during a particular time of the year. It's nice if they want to include me in their celebrations, but not so nice if they get adamant about how I should celebrate and what I should celebrate.

      This article isn't about law. It's about people who imagine that everything regarding religion has to be their way or they can't be happy, can't enjoy their special holiday, or can't enjoy the season.

      Thank you again for taking an interest in this article! :)

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, fantastic hub, I agree with everything written here, that people in our country are free to worship the religion of their choice or have no religion if that is their choice.

      My gggrandfather on two sides fought in the war of 1812, but I do not know their religion, I can only surmise that they were Christian and their beliefs were passed down to my grandmother and on down to me. On the other hand my ggggrandmother was Cherokee, I know that because of the stories that were past down from my ancestors, then I found her 'Dawes roll' number.

      A Dawes roll number was given to each American Indian when the white man took their land and forced them onto the trail of tears, she was in that march to Oklahoma. My point is I don't know her religious beliefs or if she had any. I only know that I am a Christian, and will be saying Merry Christmas to all.

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      Galadriel Arwen 4 years ago from USA

      I was responding late to your comment above: {Au fait 9 months ago from Texas Galadriel Arwen, thank you for commenting on my hub and sharing your thoughts!}

      Sorry you were unable to pull up your comment and that I am late with a reply. Freedom has always been a very important issue in our family. We are a family of patriots and even fought in the war of Independence from England so that individuals could be free to live and have the religion they choose as long as they do not harm others and live within the law

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      Galadriel Arwen 4 years ago from USA

      AU fait, You do not understand what I wrote. I am not a member of the majority because I am white. I am a member of the minority as a female and a senior citizen. I believe freedom should be for everyone to believe whatever they want. God gave us the freedom to believe and live life the way we choose, why don't you give people the same rights. As long as people are not breaking the common law or forcing others to believe in their religion, leave them alone.

      People who attempt to stop others from this God given freedom, not only hurt themselves but others. Recall the Salem witch trials? That series of hearings and prosecutions of people accused of witchcraft in colonial Massachusetts, between February 1692 and May 1693 this was a true representation of what you suggest, preventing celebrations. When you stop others from expressing themselves and their belief what have you accomplished? There is nothing wrong with diversity and learning about others customs and belief. That study is educational and a worthy pursuit. That is why when we started this country we began with a Bill of Rights.

      The rights of each citizen. I do not know where you live but I was never allowed to pray in school and children where I live are not allowed to pray either, at least not so others can see.

      As an enforcer of the civil law for over 25 years it is unbelievable to me that anyone thinks that making laws will make everyone follow it. Laws are made to protect the innocent and correct the guilty if in jail or with fines. We came to America to be free and express the religion we choose. Personally, I believe that anyone who thinks that protecting others from learning religions or preventing the celebrations or those religions is a good idea must live in a make believe world.

      Everyday little children are harmed by others because they have not been informed or educated about the differences in the world. Shutting out the world from your home is not a solution. The freedom of information and the freedoms provided by our Bill of Rights are the only way to protect our families, our youth, our elders and our heritage. Once you white or black out history, hide the truth, and pervert the past, you are begging for the worst things in history to repeat.

      Let them celebrate as long as they are not hurting anyone else and not breaking any law.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Daddy Paul for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Lifelovemystery, thank you for stopping by. Glad you don't let a few words spoil your celebration!

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Peggy W for sharing this article. Christmas is just 80 days away! You are so right when you say it will soon be here.

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      Daddy Paul 4 years ago from Michigan

      I say Merry Christmas. Good article.

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      Michelle Orelup 4 years ago from Houston, TX

      I say Merry Christmas, but it doesn't bother me if people say Happy Holidays.

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      Peggy Woods 4 years ago from Houston, Texas

      Came back to share this once again since we are fast approaching the holiday season of year.

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      samowhamo 4 years ago

      You to have a good night.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      OK, think it's nite-nite time for me. Have a good night Sam.

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      samowhamo 4 years ago

      Your welcome and its not that I don't like my screen name its just that I am so use to being called by my real name but as I said you don't have to call me by it if you don't want to call me which ever way.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Sam, the reason I start with your screen name is so people will see it and maybe want to check our your hubs.

      Texas has more space than CA, and I think it's probably less expensive to live here.

      If you don't like your screen name, why'd you pick it?

      Oh, and thanks for the follow.

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      samowhamo 4 years ago

      My dad and I would like to move down south sometime to escape the cold of winter. Preferbably he would like to move to California where he grew up but he can't afford it so the next best thing is the south. You can call me Sam you don't have to call me by my screen name which reminds my screen name is something my mom and sometimes my dad use to call me as a child it was doesn't emberass me and its not to personal but they use to tease me with it by saying (sam-o-whamo turn around and see his butt crack-o) LOL.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      samowhamo, it's in the 90s right now and so far pretty cool compared to usual. Often gets into the 100s. If you like hot you would love Texas in July and especially August.

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      samowhamo 4 years ago

      Well if its that hot down there maybe I sohuld come on down I love and adore the hot summers.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you for commenting on this hub samowhamo.

      I'm glad you have some wonderful memories of your childhood Christmases. Here in Texas I like spring best because it's so green and pretty and still cool enough outside to enjoy, but summer is awful. I hate summer in Texas. I can see how you would enjoy summer in Ohio. I grew up in Wisconsin.

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      samowhamo 4 years ago

      Ah Christmas one of the few things about winter I love (I am not a winter person I prefer summer). When my grandparents were still alive we would get together at their house (or my aunt and uncles house) and open presents and have a nice dinner. Whenever someone would get cloths we would all shout at that person underwear, underwear, underwear ha, ha, ha. Now that my grandparents are dead the fun is gone but I still enjoy Christmas with my father and his family and I do sometimes go to my mothers house on Christmas.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Moonlake, thank you for reading and commenting on this hub! Thanks for the votes and the share, too.

      I've read a little about Perry's law on this subject and since it is in opposition to the Federal law on this issue it is likely to be found unconstitutional.

      Regardless of how this turns out, it was never illegal for students and parents to say Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, or whatever religious greeting they wanted to. It was and is only illegal for employees of the state to do so as they represent the state and the state cannot promote any particular religion by any means.

      Even children can pray in school if they want, it just can't be a planned part of the curriculum. Same with parents and other adults at ball games, graduations, etc. If the prayer is spontaneous, not planned/scheduled it is not illegal.

      A parent or other person could, if they can figure out a way to do so, go to the microphone and ask people to join them in a prayer if they wish. Or they could rise and ask people sitting in the same section as themselves to do so, no problem. It just can't be a planned scheduled event. If it's planned it insinuates the state/government is promoting that particular religion and that offends our Constitution.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Tillsontitan for reading, and voting on this hub, and for sharing your thoughts on this very controversial issue!

      Imagine, we're talking about Christmas and it's 97 degrees here in N. Texas! Hope you're cooler up there in New York. ;)

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      Mary Craig 4 years ago from New York

      I can't believe I missed this one.

      I get so fired up when this happens every year! I think our (Christians) religious freedoms are being taken away and trodden every year. Christmas is a celebration of Christ....what's next, no Happy Easter? If other religions need to be tolerated, what, in the name of God is Christianity? One of the earliest religions and one from which many others stem.

      This hub was right on aufait and I am with you all the way!

      Voted up, useful, and interesting.

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      moonlake 4 years ago from America

      I see Texas has a bill removing any legal risks of saying "Merry Christmas" in Texas public schools. I came back to read your interesting hub and share it. Voted up.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Peggy W, thank you for pinning this hub, and for your kind words!

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      Peggy Woods 4 years ago from Houston, Texas

      Going to pin this to my Christmas board. This should open up people's minds...at least hopefully. :)

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      wileyspeaks, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this subject. I really don't think it is people who celebrate other holidays than Christmas who are raising this issue, but those people who do not want to see or hear anything about any holiday who are complaining.

      Thank you for stopping in and Happy New Year!

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you for stopping by Shyron. People who don't believe in Christmas or who get upset about holidays and the greetings that go with them are usually atheists. They choose not to celebrate any holiday and would be only too happy if no one else did either. That is the reason they complain about any religious items on government property and object to holiday greetings of every kind.

      Atheists are the people who especially do not want prayer in school. It is rarely people who believe but worship by a different religion who complain. It is atheists who complain, so if anyone is imagining that it is people from other religions who are objecting to Christmas trees or menorahs, they should probably rethink their ideas.

      Wishing people happy holidays is just a courtesy of including them and accepting them and tolerating their difference. It is atheists who make an issue of these things and would be only too happy if all holidays for all religions were extinct along with both Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays.

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      Anna 4 years ago from Auburn, Indiana

      I think that it is the time of year from the thanksgiving to New Year that Holidays encompass. It is a season full if Holidays and I raised to be respectful and I think that is the problem. People have forgotten what it is to show respect to one another. I think being a Christian you should feel that warmth in your heart and share that with others especially during the holiday season. The saddest thing to me is it seems that during this time if giving people ate the least kind to each other and this argument is just another example of this.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      The Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays come around at Christmas and people who don't believe in Christmas should not say either. And they should not have a holiday. Why should none believers benefit from what they don't believe in?

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      wileyspeaks, thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts on this hub! Agree that it's usually Christians who get irritated about the holiday greetings, although atheists can get pretty gnarly too. I really think the whole issue comes down to those two groups at odds with each other, which they are, of course, bound to be.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      moonlake, thank you for reading, and commenting on this hub, and for sharing your unfortunate Christmas experience! A shame the clerk let one little extra item spoil her Christmas cheer to the extent that she wanted to spoil it for other people too . . .

      Agree with you that there are far more important problems that need resolution in this country and around the world then whether or not someone says Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Galadriel Arwen, thank you for stopping by. Agree it was stupid for Walgreens to cave to the complaints. A private business can do what it wants to regarding holidays and celebrations. Were there as many or more complaints when the trees were removed?

      Hope you had a peaceful happy Christmas! Take care . . .

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Willstarr, thank you for commenting on this hub and for sharing your thoughts and views. I would most probably have asked the manager exactly what you did. After all, if they're going to allude to Christmas why not just say it? Who are they kidding?

      Keep in mind it was the private policy of the store to keep the word Christmas out of the conversation, and no one's choice but the policy makers of that store. If they choose to be intimidated by people who don't like Christmas -- and very often other religious holidays either -- that is not the fault of politically correct speech.

      I try to be thoughtful when talking about my beliefs, but if I want to say Merry Christmas to someone I do it. Don't like it? Turn up the radio buds you most likely have stuck in your ears. Does anyone go anywhere without ear buds anymore??

      I think if we use consideration and thoughtfulness in greeting each other and exchanging good wishes for whatever holiday is applicable, we will have serve political speech sufficiently. I wouldn't worry about those people who want to make a stand merely for the purpose of making a stand about the various holidays. Want to say Merry Christmas? Do it. I'm not offended if someone wishes me happy Hanukkah, nor even the Muslims who wish me happy Ramadan when that holiday is being celebrated. It's nice they want to include me, even though we have different beliefs. It would seem that most people who believe in God are not offended by Merry Christmas either.

      So instead of being so concerned with what other people are doing, what some businesses or even most businesses are doing, change what you CAN control -- yourself. You can't control anyone else, but you can control your own attitude and behavior. Refuse to be offended or to let anyone rain on your parade. Say Merry Christmas when you want to do that. I do.

      Politically correct speech has no power of its own. It only has power when you let it have power. Stop complaining that you can't say what you want to say and just say what's on your mind. Just be reasonably considerate of other people as you would want them to be towards you.

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      Anna 4 years ago from Auburn, Indiana

      It is a great hub!! Thank you so much I feel the same way. This time of year it always bugs me this whole war on saying,"Merry Chirstmas". I don't understand how saying," Happy Holidays", is taking away from me celebrating Christmas. Furthermore, I have never had anybody be nasty to me when I said,"Merry Christmas", even if they don't celebrate Christmas, but I have had Christians be very mean to me if I say Happy Holidays and the comments I have received are lets just say less then nice.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Galadriel Arwen, thank you for commenting on my hub and sharing your thoughts!

      I would say that if God is in your heart then He goes with you wherever you go, even into schools and other government buildings, so in fact God is in our schools if He resides in the hearts of teachers, staff, and students.

      Never have I had a problem praying in school. Just 2 years ago I prayed so very hard sitting in my classroom at the University here where I was taking a class in Statistics. God heard me even though I didn't stand at the front of the class and insist the other 136 students and the prof pray with me. Even though I didn't shout my prayers and force others to participate or even listen, God heard me and granted me a passing grade! God is in our schools I assure you, whenever Christians who carry Him in their hearts enter these buildings, God is there too.

      Be glad Christians are not permitted to shout their prayers where others are forced to listen and/or participate because if they were the same right would have to be granted not only to the various religions you mentioned in your comments, but even to Satanists who might adversely influence young children in public schools, and also young adults at universities. There are 2 sides to every coin and you might not like the back side of this coin if you finally got what you think you want.

      The beauty is that both the majority and the minority are free in this country to celebrate and worship as they wish. No one has the right to force their religion onto others regardless of what group they are in -- the majority or the minority.

      The only place where religious objects are not legal is in public/government buildings. If people choose not to have religious objects on their private property, that is their choice. So if specific businesses choose not to have Christmas trees in their windows, that is their choice just as you can choose whether or not to display a Christmas tree in the window of your home. If you owned a business it would be likewise. Your choice.

      What I hear you saying is that as a member of the majority you believe you should have the right to force your religion onto anyone and everyone because you are in the majority. That's not a good reason to force someone to do anything. Just because the majority might eat French fired tarantulas doesn't mean everyone should have to eat them.

      Hanging the 10 Commandments on a wall at the front of the classroom or in a courtroom will solve nothing. If you don't believe in and obey those commandments you could paper all the walls with them with no positive results.

      God says He has written the commandments in our hearts. If writing them in each and every one of our hearts hasn't prevented crime and just plain ugly behaviors, why do you think posting them on the wall would help?

      Parents no longer seem to have expectations of their children. Since they are so busy working to accumulate material things, often more than is truly needed, they often feel guilty for not spending as much time with their children as they think they should. As a result they do not want to spend the little time they have discipling their children. What results are disrespectful children who place extremely high value on material things -- why wouldn't they when Mom & Dad put all of their efforts into that activity?

      Children learn from example and from loving instruction and guidance from their parents and caregivers. Good values can be taught without books and posters and Christmas trees as props. Religion should be taught in the home where it will have the greatest influence.

      All people in the U.S. have freedom of religion, not just the majority. If businesses and individuals are choosing not to display religious objects, that is their choice.

      Would you want your tax dollars spent on Wicken or Satanist religious objects? Atheists do not want their tax dollars spent on any religious objects. The best thing is for government that includes ALL of our citizens to stay out of religion entirely, which it must do by law.

      Personally, I would not want anyone else teaching my child about God because from my perspective even many Christians don't seem to know Him very well. Many Christians do not seem to exhibit Christian values and they are the last people on Earth whatever they may call themselves, that I would want instructing my child about God.

      You cannot have both diversity and majority rule. You must choose one or the other.

      Thank you again for commenting on this hub. Your opinion matters and is important for all of us to consider even if we may not agree completely. I would encourage you to share your faith as much as possible in those places where it is permitted. If you do that enthusiastically and with love and compassion you will more than make up for any restraints you may have in public buildings.

      I always say the best sermon is not the one a person preaches, but the one they live. It shines for all to see and sets an example of what it means to truly be a Christian. The Christian attitude, demeanor, example, compassion, and love are all 100% permissible in any and all government/public buildings and at all government/school events. I promise you people will notice even if you don't wear a sign or other religious object stating that you are a Christian.

      If the only way you can be identified as a Christian is by telling people or wearing a sign to that effect, then something is missing. Your Christianity should be obvious in your words, deeds, and demeanor. No one can deny it or force you to remove it when it is a part of who you are, as it should be. It will have far more influence than any poster of the commandments, or a Christmas tree. Carry your Christianity with you wherever you go and exhibit it at every opportunity by showing compassion, speaking kind words, and helping others. This is the proof that God resides in YOU.

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      moonlake 4 years ago from America

      I'm fine with whatever is said. This country worries to much over who they are going to offend and some of the things we have lost because of it, I am not happy about but that is my only complaint. There are awful things to worry about and this holiday thing is not one of them.

      I did say to the check-out lady today "Have a very Merry Christmas." She was not happy with us because we got in the 20 only line. After she finished checking us out, I said “I think we had 20 items,” She said “no you had 21.” I never knew our tickets showed how many items we bought right at the bottom. I do hope she has a happy holiday and finds some way of putting a smile on her face.

      Voted up.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      rajan jolly, thank you for reading and commenting on this hub, and thank you for your high praise! Many religions and denominations within those religions teach that their interpretation is the only correct interpretation of the Holy Book they follow. That makes it easier to dehumanize people with different beliefs and ideas, and in turn, to look down on them and believe they are somehow less than oneself. It's easy to be intolerant of people we consider to be less.

      I can't speak for any other than the Christian religion as I am not knowledgeable about them, but Christianity makes no allowance for thinking of oneself as better than anyone else for any reason. It is people who consider themselves Christians who are not familiar with the Bible, or who chose to twist the words in that Book to serve themselves, that have a problem.

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      Galadriel Arwen 4 years ago from USA

      They had to take the Christmas trees out of the windows at the local Walgreens because they were getting complaints! How stupid!

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Peggy W, for reading this hub and for sharing your thoughts! Very much appreciate your taking the time, for the votes, and for sharing. Merry Christmas to you and yours!

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      WillStarr 4 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      I read a sign in one department store which read:

      "Happy Holidays. Just four shopping days left!!"

      I asked for a manager, and asked him: "Four shopping days until what?"

      He sort of fumbled around and finally said: "We aren't supposed to use the word 'Christmas', because we might offend someone."

      It's a federal holiday, but people are now afraid to even use the word 'Christmas'?

      Political correctness is a scourge, because it limits our right to speak freely.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you for stopping by and sharing your thoughts Jen. Consideration and love should always be the rule when it comes to religion and special holidays related to it. Glad you enjoyed this article!

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      Galadriel Arwen 4 years ago from USA

      I think it really is stupid that the majority is being ruled by the minority. Our ancestors came to America so they could freely celebrate religious freedom! So, let us celebrate! If you believe in Hanukkah began at sunset Saturday, December 8- 16th, 2012, Celebrate; If you believe in Christmas, December 25, 2012, Celebrate! If you believe in winter solstice; the solstice that occurs in winter; Celebrate! And, if you believe in Kwanzaa that begins on Wednesday, December 26, 2012, Celebrate! They, the minority have taken God out of the schools, taken holidays out of the windows of certain buildings - How is it that Americans are free? Those in the minority need to be silent and let the majority to celebrate whatever they want. Diversity is a good thing and it is important for everyone to know that everyone is not the same!

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      Rajan Singh Jolly 4 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

      Voted up and awesome. Tolerance is a keyword that all religions preach. Seems today it has gone out of the back door. You give a fitting reply to the rant of the guy who says how can you take out Christ from Christmas.

      Well said. Well written.

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      Peggy Woods 4 years ago from Houston, Texas

      Excellent hub with valid points made. Those of us with religious beliefs should not be so small minded to exclude everyone else and try to impose our rituals and beliefs upon them. I like how you said that we should try and show our religion through our actions every day of the year. Amen to that! Hope that your holiday season is a merry one and bright on Christmas and every other day on the calendar. Up, useful, awesome and sharing.

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      Jen 4 years ago

      I really like this article so much! I am so tired of people complaining because everyone does not say Merry Christmas! We have a mix of different religions in our family and we like to include them all and make sure everyone feels welcome. We try to say Happy Hanukkah and Happy Yuletide to those who celebrate those things, but if I don't know for sure if someone celebrates Christmas, I just like to say Happy Holidays rather than seem like I'm insisting they recognize my celebration while I ignore theirs.

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Giselle Maine, thank you for reading and commenting on this hub! Agree with you totally. You are very kind and thoughtful.

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Brett, for commenting, voting, and sharing my hub!

      A lot of people here get upset about bans and restrictions too, but of course we have a division of religion and state written into our Constitution. That division has been a part of our country for decades. I'm not familiar with British law, so I don't know if you have a similar law or not.

      So here, the only place religion is not permitted to be promoted is in government buildings (schools, courthouses, etc), on government land, and by government officials/staff. Citizens shall not set up religious displays or conduct religious services on government property, but they may certainly greet each other with a "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hanukkah," etc., if they wish, so long as they are not government employees.

      Other than the above, in every other way everyone is free to worship as they wish, and discuss religion or worship in their own way, so long as they are not breaking any laws (human sacrifice, etc.). Also, one can be muzzled on private property by the property owner -- an employer, for example. If you are on his/her property and his/her time clock, s/he can moderate your speech. But on public domain or your own property, you are welcome to say what you wish -- so long as you break no laws. Yelling fire in a crowded room is against the law, for example. Inciting violence is also against the law, so speech that does that is illegal.

      There is a difference between celebrating your personal holiday or religious belief and forcing it onto other people who may not be receptive. Here, some people seem to have trouble telling those 2 things apart -- celebrating their special day and forcing their celebration onto other people. They want their special day recognized at the expense of other people's special days. They believe their celebration should take precedent. They think if their special holiday is not being observed above all others, that they are somehow being restricted or banned from doing what they want to do.

      Many businesses choose (they are not required or forced) to say Happy Holidays in order to be inclusive and to avoid having to buy separate advertising for each religious group. Buying separate advertising would be more expensive and that expense would be passed on. If businesses did this, how many people would still be offended because the Merry Christmas banner was placed between the Happy Hanukkah banner and the Happy Yule Banner, instead of being given precedent over all other holidays?

      We cannot regulate by law, other people's opinions and beliefs, but I do agree that it is silly to get worked up over a greeting or phrase. When I am on school property I cannot legally say "Merry Christmas" to students or anyone else I encounter, because I am a school district employee, but I can say it at Wal-Mart or in the street walking to the post-office, or in any street or parking lot, and on any sidewalk. I can even say it IN the post-office, because I am not a postal employee.

      Students and parents are permitted to say "Merry Christmas" to whomever they wish on school property, but employees of the school district are not allowed to promote any particular religion by any means.

      Anyway, I basically agree with what you say, and have stated that in this hub. Thanks again for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!

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      Giselle Maine 5 years ago

      A beautiful hub! I will say "Happy Hanukkah" to Jewish friends even though they know I am not Jewish. I do not 'expect' people to say "Merry Christmas" to me, although I like it when they do. I will say "Merry Christmas" to people if I know they are Christian. But to atheist family and friends I just send "Happy Holiday" type of cards. However, if someone was married in a church then I consider that the person cannot get offended by a "Merry Christmas" - whether a card or spoken in person.

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      Brett Caulton 5 years ago from Thailand

      You make some very good points in this article and are correct, many Christian traditions and symbols actually originated from other cultures/religions.

      However, the point is that all should be allowed to celebrate openly, whatever their beliefs or religion. I hate the way the UK has become, when anything that might offend another culture residing in the UK is banned. I feel that everyone has the right to celebrate whatever they choose, without people taking offense from such silly things as being wished a 'merry Christmas', or whatever other greeting you choose, after all ... the intention is good, is it not? Why are we so concerned about these things? We need to concentrate on fixing the bad stuff going on instead.

      Voted up, interesting and shared.

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      And I hope yours was happy also! Thank you for your comments!

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      amrita grover 5 years ago

      hope you had a happy day on christmas day!!!

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Hope you had a wonderful Christmas carolp. Thank you for taking time to leave some comments!

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      Carolina 5 years ago from Switzerland

      It really doesn't matter to me how a person express his/her wishes for someone on Christmas. I would be glad to know someone remembers me on Christmas season and i was not concentrating or expecting of a specific greetings or words.

      As i was a child, we have a Christmas tradition to celebrate and i am practicing this tradition in my own family and hope my children will continue the yearly tradition to their own family and the next generations.

      Other people have different ways of celebrating Christmas. Most important is we are all happy in this wonderful season and wishing everybody the best.

      Thanks for sharing.

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you for your comment Geo. It is a shame so many people are angrily obsessed over a few words instead of enjoying what should be a happy and joyous time of the year!

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you for adding to the conversation, David. Hope you have a Merry Christmas!

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      georges 5 years ago

      you are most welcome

      its only a few words

      you are on the right way

      geo

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Georges: Thank you for your comments!

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      David Carr 5 years ago

      Very well said. Hear! Hear! Im with you all of the way. I and my forebears are(were) all Baptists in fact some of my forebears built churches and chapels for everyone to worship in and they came here from America too!!

      I do not attend church often as I believe as you have stated that if there is love and peace in your heart and not afraid to show it then this is a mark of a true Christian.

      I also think that if you wish all a happy Christmas then you are showing others that you worship Christ in your own way and the reply to you should be in their own way. Good on yer au fait someone who writes sensibly about sensible subjects some of which may be a little controversial but allows people like me to comment on them. Dave

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      Georges Zemah 5 years ago

      very interesting especial thanks to you for talking about chrismas may I wish you a very long life for same. your way be blessed for your efforts.

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Thank you Angela for your insights. I think you are spot on. People should not let a war of semantics spoil their celebration and enjoyment of the season.

      I've never looked at it as anyone trying to control my beliefs. I always thought "Happy Holidays" was the easiest, cheapest way, for shop owners to include everyone instead of having separate (expensive) ads for every religion, the cost of which would be passed on to the customer. Regardless of that, I'm with you. Everyone should make allowance for everyone else's special celebration and then all should be fine. I say Merry Christmas to those people I know who celebrate it and expect to continue.

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      Angela Blair 5 years ago from Central Texas

      Great HUB and well written. I, too, believe in MY Christmas and MY Christ. I refuse to be concerned about how others wish to state their Christmas wishes or how they celebrate. I do, however, resent it terribly when someone who believes or celebrates differently than I do attempts to regulate my beliefs -- and these folks are very active and extremely vocal. So, if we could all celebrate as we see fit and let others do the same, "Peace on Earth and Goodwill to All Men" would surely prevail. Best, Sis