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Is It Time for Maven to up Their Standards for HP Publishers

Updated on May 20, 2020
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Don is a Writer and a Storyteller. He has published over 9 books on varied subjects along with many articles and commentary on his blogs.

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Does HubPages need to Evolve?

Let's face it, we write for the money and not for our own entertainment.

You see, HP is my writer's site and I now write informational articles that they share for me on the web.

I've been here, plodding along and learning my craft for ten years now. And honestly, when I found HP, I was just a Storyteller with a Technical Writing background. I was cocky about how I could hold an audiences attention with my stories.

But now, I call myself a writer and I need more. You see, I have evolved from being a pretty good Storyteller to being a confident Writer. How good a writer I may now be I hesitate to say; but I will say that I and my readers believe I am pretty good.

What I need now, is for HP, or their owner Maven to help me take the next step and be a great writer. I'm ready to do more in my role as what Maven calls a Publisher, and I'm ready to earn more money on my writings.

I also believe it's time for HP to evolve and sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. They need to somehow separate the beginners from the ones who are ready to rise to the challenges of a publisher "internship" and produce better works for a higher audience level.

Oh, I know, you use your niche sites as a sorting mechanism by subject, but I see that as a knee jerk reaction to lost revenue in the past. And honestly, it works, for now.

I need to ask, what does it take to have your "editors" start sorting the good from the horrible and placing us into quality groups or whatever that the potential audience would be hard pressed to notice. But for some reason, they have no common look which I believe would give them a shared identity.

And no, I'm not looking to have my writings look like they're on a "WIKI-???" site, but rather I do think a professional magazine looking template could help a lot.

What is the problem for HP?

You see, my problem is that HP takes in the worst writers along with the best, without any discrimination about the quality of the works submitted, and uses Google to place ads from their commercial customers into the works for the readers to trip over and maybe even purchase what is being advertised.

And honestly, it works, for now.

But, Google has grown and now they are keeping more and more of their ad money and showing those ads themselves. I know, I have a Shopify Store of my own and Google is pushing me to place my own ads with them so they can get their piece of the advertising pie.

From my perspective, HP is just a middleman right now, standing between me, the publisher and the commercial advertiser that relies on Google for exposure. Everyones problem on the web right now is that Google is so darn large that whatever they do as they grow their business, I and my writer's site HP, have to jump through whatever hoops Google places in front of us.

I have to ask is; OK, HP as their niche sites, but what is next. What do HP and Maven have in store for me, the good writer. And what do they have in store for the many "pilot fish" who are now riding along and feeding off of my works?

I am a Storyteller who has Learned to Write

Just So You Know!

When I started writing on HP, I was a storyteller. not a writer. As a Storyteller, I didn't have to worry about such things as; punctuation, spelling, sentence structure and the other structure requirements for a good article. But, I really was and still am, a darn good storyteller.

I learned this art by listening to my extended family tell their tales to each other as they sat around their living rooms when I was a kid. Their tales filled me with wonder, and joy and sadness as they worked their way through the tsk of builing a life for themselves and their families.

They would try to talk themselves through an understanding of what they saw and did during WWII. They would moan over how hard it was to fight the elements as they tried to make a living on their farms, They would laugh together and tell their stories of their Hunting exploits and how their children made their hearts swell with Love.

They were storytellers in the purest form of the word. They might not have more than a 5th or 6th grade education, like my Dad, but they they could mesmerize me with a three minute tale of how it felt to kill their first Deer.

They could make me cry with them as they told how they jumped into a bomb crater on some island in the Pacific and when they turned to their friend his friend's body was still sitting there, but his head was gone.

They could make you so angry when you heard your Aunt talk about how her husband would beat her, regularly.

Yes, they were storytellers and I grew up listening to such wonderful life stories and I am pretty good at telling such stories like what I had heard "way back when" myself.

What Do I Want?

Well, I want to see my articles displayed on a Quality site along with my peer's articles. I want to see good grammar, near perfect spelling, and a story that captures the reader's attention and holds it until the read the last word.

I do not want to pour my coffee each morning and spend more than half of my time tripping over horrible attempts to write, as I look for the entertaining and informative ones that capture my attention.

That's not so hard is it? Place the "good writers" on display, grouped together and place the submissions of the learners, the copiers, and the "please rewrite this for me" people together also.

And of course, have a path for the learners to do just that, learn. As the old adage says; A Baby has to Crawl before they an walk; well, a person who truly wants to write must fail, over and over, before they can write good articles.

Yes, as I let my imagination fly free, I like to see HP as a newspaper from yesteryear. It has editorials and informational articles written by their best people, and they have a large section full of local commenters. The professional writers wrote to a higher standard and captured the audience's attention.

The comment section on the other hand, was full of just that, comments and complaints from the public, These comments were not expected to be professionally written, just to be there for others of the public to read.

Well enough said! I have a vision that I hope is shared by my fellow publishers.

This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional.


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    • Don Bobbitt profile imageAUTHOR

      Don Bobbitt 

      11 months ago from Ruskin Florida

      Caren - As they say, evolution is inevitable, and week after week, I see that MAVEN is our boss while HP is presently just another source of money for them.

      No one is saying where Maven will take us, but I suspect we will be in for a bumpy ride.

      Have a Great Day,


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      Caren White 

      11 months ago

      I refused to allow my articles to be moved to a niche site when they were created for exactly the reason you give here: so many poorly written aricles and in my case, garden writing, articles full of misinformation. I did not want my articles which are carefully researched as well as full of my decades of gardening experience to be associated with what I considered to be garbage. Nowadays, niche sites are where the money is made so I have had to swallow my pride and move my articles to the niche sites.

      I totally agree with your point that there needs to be a sorting of the articles. Authorities on subjects such as you and myself should be separated from the amateurs as well as those who do not write well. I don't know how that could be done. Would the niche sites be sub-divided? Who would determine which articles would be posted on which sub-divisions? Would the superior writers be able to earn more? Those are just a few of the questions that occur to me. I'm sure that you have many more.

    • Don Bobbitt profile imageAUTHOR

      Don Bobbitt 

      11 months ago from Ruskin Florida

      John - Thanks for your response and your views on this situation. It seems to me that Maven may already have a team working on bringing new information filled sources into a stricter world. Why else would they be taking over so many existing sites that are no longer doing well?

      Anyway, Thanks and have a Great day,


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      John Hansen 

      11 months ago from Queensland Australia

      Don, it would be great if there is some way to separate the experienced seasoned writers from the beginners. That's not saying all beginners aren't good writers either. I have seen a lot of article on my feed lately that are poorly written and much too short to be successful here. Even some that are chosen for niche sites don't seem to have to reach a very high standard (at least on Letterpile e.g. poetry.) Yes, it is a possibility great writing can be lost amid the mediocre. Good article, thanks for sharing your concerns.

    • Don Bobbitt profile imageAUTHOR

      Don Bobbitt 

      11 months ago from Ruskin Florida

      Eric - I love diversity. i Love challenging thoughts being thrust in front of me. But, I am wary of where we are riding a place that is part HP and part MAVEN.

      My concern is where am I going to be if I am just part of a large mass of information mixed with misinformation?

      Hopefully, it will all work out?

      Have a Great Day,


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      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I am trying and sometimes succeeding in mentoring some. Perhaps to publish requires to high of an ego.I have seen 3K articles with no graphic or video break and 600 word religious articles get posted to a niche?

      Our editors here publish opinions and stances that they like and are not concerned with quality. Youth?

      Interesting stuff, I thank you for bringing it into some meaningful light.

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      Liz Westwood 

      11 months ago from UK

      I thought that QAP and bootcamp were the tools which HP employed to sort the wheat from the chaff. They also serve a dual purpose in training up those of us new to HP. Having read your article, I was left doing a mental check list with my articles. I hope I have ticked your boxes. From what I have seen, those who fail to make the grade burst onto the scene with a flurry of activity, but don't tend to stay the course.


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