I just wanted to let it be known that superman is the most insane hero of all times, and he has to be my favorite of all times. One thing I am a little upset about it that superman is way to epic, I mean he could literally rip batman in half if he wanted to. If you are gonna come up with such an epic hero you have to have more than one epic villan. Doomsday is like the only bad guy would could stand toe to toe with superman.
What do you guys think out there.
I think Darkseid was a good Superman villian. Also Dr.Manhattan could kill Superman, but he's a God.
Superman has his undies outside and is wearing a freaking cape.
He's not totally invincible like I have a fridge full of Kryptonite from eBay here.
Luthor and Brainiac were both intelligent enough to give Superman problems. Bizarro, the Parasite, and the Composite Superman were all tough enough to give Superman all he could handle.
Superman is overpowered, with a gimmicky weakness.
He's literally an alien, someone almost entirely outside the human experience... a character that lacks depth.
As the most powerful DC universe hero, it's hard to get excited when he manages to beat a villain.
Now Squirrel Girl, there's a real candidate for the most awesome superhero!
I don't think Superman is over-powered. I think he is actually most of the time, operating below his level of power. I see Superman as a force of nature. Someone who cannot be stopped unless with concerted effort. However, I think he lacks much of the powers that make elite metahumans like Thor and the Silver Surfer truly formidable, and that is energy manipulation, or at least immense energy capability. Too often, he is resorted to having to use his fists. I also think that he should be given mental powers of a sort. At least psionic ones.
Finally, I think greater respect should be given to Darkseid, who should truly be seen as a god, almost omnipotent. Meaning, he should always triumph over Superman in head to head combat. Finally, I like the Eradicator as a good frenemy, a sort of villain who forms alliances at times with Superman.
Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns" and "Dark Knight Strikes Again" clearly showed two major weaknesses of Superman.
1. his obedience to Authority Figures, whether they are right or wrong. He is responsible for removing Green Arrow's arm and imprisoning Flash in a giant treadmill electricity generator even though they were his friends
2. his compassion for others. In "Dark Knight Strike Again", we find Superman is a pawn to Lex Luthor because he is holding the City of Kandor to ransom. It was not necessary, all he needed was a bus full of school children and Superman would have done whatever he was told. In fact, I am surprised that a villain has not done exactly that to get him to rob a bank for them.
What a loser!
And we had better not mention Mr Mxyzptlk
I agree with you in some respects.
I lament the portrayal of Superman as a cop and as a malleable individual. Too often, Superman is portrayed as naive and as submissive. But I think that someone who has super-intellect should be difficult to manipulate. Also, I think that knowledge of his weaknesses, should help Superman be proactive in battles and not just barge in without knowing what he is getting into.
Still, I favor a portrayal that sees Superman as a universal figure. His compassion and empathy for humanity comes from the fact that is his new adopted home and his upbringing has taught him the value of decency. But too much humanity in Superman makes him predictable. Which is why I am a partisan of returning him into somewhat of a scientist, or at least a thinker, who seeks to understand his native culture better.
Finally, I think that someone of Superman's caliber ought to outdo, outthink and outwork Batman despite all the intelligence of the latter.
The simple answer is this: Superman has more than one weakness, just like anyone else.
He's an alien - which gives him his powers, but also causes him innumerable issues.
He cares for the human race - which causes him to use his powers for good, but also leads him to trust the wrong people at times.
He's a trusting soul - He needs to be able to trust someone, but he doesn't always consider a persons trustworthiness before trusting them.
Kryptonite - obvious one here, because he's an alien from Krypton he has his powers, but because he's an alien from Krypton the Kryptonite is able to take away his powers.
There are more...but, I'm not a Superman buff, he's just my favorite.
Well, there have been several villains that have proven to be quite the foils to Superman's heroic persona. Braniac, Lex Luthor, Mongul, Darkseid. Some of these guys have been mentioned earlier.
Personally, Superman does need something a little closer to lethal than in the past. He issupposed to be the paragon of fortitude and power, he should have a polar opposite - equal in power and more of a constant threat than some of his other enemies.
Also, id need not be General Zod. Zod's military experience and past interactions are almost the same damned thing since his inception. What we need is someone so close to Superman's origin yet a different path for this guy.
Just an opinion.
All anyone would have to do to beat supermans, take out the sun. No source of power, no power, dead superman.
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