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After Mueller's Testimony: What Now?

Updated on July 25, 2019

I wonder just how many average Americans actually read all or even some of the report. Probably not many. At best, some may have sections, while others just watched Mueller's testimony on TV.

The Democrats were hoping that Mueller would venture outside the four corners of his detailed report regarding the findings after two years. He did not. He simply agreed to agree what was written in the report when questions were asked, or, simply said he could not discuss the matter. The Democrats were praying Mueller would just come out and say:

  • Trump would have been prosecuted for a crime had he not been president
  • Trump did collude with the Russians by his inaction because it helped him
  • Trump could not have got his Trump tower Moscow without Putin's blessing
  • Trump did commit obstruction
  • Trump should be prosecuted after he is no longer president

Instead, he danced around all the issues and simply stumbled around like the 75-year old man he is. At times, he seemed to have no clue about what was in report or had a touch of mental fatigue. He was NOT the witness the Democrats had hoped for. At the end of the day, it was of little help and Trump boasted the same BS he always does about Mueller, fake news, witch hunt, etc. The Republicans did their best to attack the report by attacking the issues Mueller did not investigate, making it look like Mueller was truly a Democrat proxy.

The Democrats did, however, create enough narrative that shows that Mueller does think Trump was a consistent liar, attempted to interfere with investigation in numerous ways, Russian interference is happening now and then, made threats in order to get his way, prosecuted many of Trump's inner circle, obstructed in ways that are unethical, if not, criminal.

None of this was not known before. So, more no bite regarding this investigation, and the public not interested in impeachment enough, the Democrats must remove Trump in 2020. That is the only way now. If a Democratic impeachment inquiry occurs, perhaps, more things will come out into public view to change opinions, or maybe it will show nothing more. More of the same.

In the end, Mueller did nothing to help the Democrats. No opinions changed about Trump. It does seem like the Democrats have tarnished themselves even more now, even though, Trump did commit the crime of obstruction a few times. But, this is not enough for the American public to chant impeachment.

Let's move on. Dump Trump in 2020. You can't get blood from a turnip.

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    • CELEBSFAN78 profile image

      Ara Vahanian 

      8 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      Robert Mueller was appointed as Special Prosecutor because Trump fired James Comey so that he could make the Russia investigation go away. He admitted this on national TV to Lester Holt but his hardcore supporters will dismiss this and say that its not true but they would be lying to themselves. The foundation of this whole investigation coming up was because of Trump's big mistake. That's how we even got here. The focus now should be on what we can do to make this country better. Something to think about.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      He hates democrats. His base hates democrats. And they are not looking to get things done together. Trump party is looking to rule the world, with a military, religious state keeping Americans in line.

      He is helping Russia in the world market, and hurting Unites States farmers.

      And no one cares. He buys them off.

      From the moment he mocked that disabled reporter, he should have been done. The minute people heard grab em by the p he should have been gone.

      “Knock the crap out of em, will ya.”....should never have been given such a respected place in the world.

      But the hate won. Especially the hate of Hillary.

      And don’t tell me it’s not white supremacy.

      What do you think would happen with a black candidate who had 5 kids with 3 different women, and was accused of sexual assault by 19 women?

      They keep harping on “Hillary’s baggage”.......so I guess the wife of a cheater is worse than an actual cheater? In America, yes.

      And Bill Clinton apologized....to his family and the world. We MADE him do that! Why do we give Trump a pass?

      And don’t tell me it’s “economic anxiety”, when Trump has only made things worse.

      We are going to crash worse than 08. And why? So billionaires could have more millions in their stash.

      Cutting programs that help poor people under the guise of Christianity....if they can’t see how twisted that is, what the hell do they do in church every Sunday?

      There is no do over. There is no Trump 2.0. He is a brute, and his fan base does not care who he brutalizes....cause they hate those people too. If not, why don’t they speak up?

      They want to blame Obama for the racism and the divide....be my guest.

      I guess it’s white people against the world.

    • CELEBSFAN78 profile image

      Ara Vahanian 

      8 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      This president has had a history of doing things that rile people up and that is another problem. If he just didn't tweet so much on Twitter and actually tried to work with both parties to get something done, then just maybe he might have been able to get his approval rating to 50% but he hasn't gotten it past 40-42% which is barely enough to win a national election.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      When there are lots of angry people, with guns, you don’t rile them up to use them! That is what he is doing.

      I mean, what SHOULD you do with people “invading” your country? Especially when they “bring drugs and crime”?

      And what does he expect angry people with guns will do to people like democrats, who “hate America” and “execute babies”?

      Shouldn’t you kill them?

      Trump knows the mindset of people he’s calling to. He said it on Breitbart: “I have people who are just waiting for the word “ to unleash the hounds of Hell.

      He does not get a pass. If he’s just a symptom, the killers wouldn’t be quoting him and stating they’re support for him.

      “Stochastic Terrorism. Acts of violence by random extremists, triggered by political demagoguery.”

      He (trump) is a menace.

      But I agree that easy access to military style assault rifles is the main problem.

    • CELEBSFAN78 profile image

      Ara Vahanian 

      8 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      I am back here after two days and here are my thoughts since then: I think it is too easy to put the blame squarely on one individual. Donald Trump may have contributed to the incidents in Texas and Ohio but he did not specifically cause them. When there are lots of angry people in a nation that is full of firearms, these kinds of incidents happen. The other issue is the availability of assault weapons, that is the main problem.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Sure. Only cause of immigration, and sharing lives across the border. Dumdum is ruining everything trying to make us Gaza.

      He serves one master: the international crime syndicate. Once you’re in, there’s only one way out.

      Where’s the tax returns? That will make it all clear.

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      Wesman Todd Shaw 

      8 months ago from Kaufman, Texas

      LOL. Texas already had a booming economy, but with Donald Trump as POTUS, the Texas economy is revved up even more. If there has ever been a more loved POTUS than Donald Trump in the state of Texas, then I don't know who it was.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      8 months ago

      Trump may be in danger from hatred if he goes to Texas and Ohio. Maybe he will understand what the other side feels.

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Trump will never accept the blame for the shootings. He lives in an alternate reality where he thinks he has done nothing wrong. However, he will shift the blame to others.

      He talks about mental health being the problem. I think Trump has mental health issues. He exhibits the classic symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder. His supporters like Brad, have unconditional blind faith for him as if he is their religious leader, and he knows it.

      That's why he said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay? It's like incredible."

      Trump and his campaign people may have used Cambridge Analytica to target people who have the personality profiles that will support Trump with unconditional blind faith. Just look at all the Evangelical Christians that support him blindly.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      ‘We were safe until he started talking’: El Paso residents respond to President Trump.

      https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08...

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "Sayoc's attorneys said the 57-year-old former pizza delivery man became radicalized off a daily consumption of Trump’s tweets, Fox News, and conspiracy theories on the internet.”

      ******

      Fox News wasn’t always here. I remember when it first came on. Bill O’reilly was the big thing, then. Fresh off a gossip news show, right?

      Anyway, I was a returning college student at the time, and this one guy in class said, “don’t watch that crap. It’s dangerous” or something like that. And I thought, what’s the big deal? It’s just a show.

      But no. It’s more. And so is rightwing talk radio.

      It’s subversion. Q anon....

      Because the thing that got me off talk radio is when Rush came along. He hated Bill Clinton so much, I was taken aback.

      Now, it’s amplified, and the internet helps.

      And no one has to tell the truth, you can just make stuff up.

      Very sophisticated stuff. They know our anger, our fears, and play on them.

      If it’s not kgb, it’s something else. I remember when I heard the Beatles were created by the Tavistock institute....

      I wonder if that’s true? Freud’s nephew or something was expert in propaganda.....

      Nazis used it.

      It has come to America. Not recently, either. It’s a long time brew.

      The melting pot has been laced with venom.

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Ding Dong the witch is dead!!! What's the matter Brad, you can't handle the truth? I'm sorry you feel that way.

    • Randy Godwin profile image

      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      That just breaks my damn heart...

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Uncle Randy he is a dandy RC

      I am not posting here anymore, I am missing several comments.

      Bye have your squad fest.

      Mike

      You are teamed up with Randy, I wouldn't want to live on the difference of your insecurities.

      I have my own articles don't need to lose comments here.

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      True Mike, anyone who protects Trump is equally responsible for the senseless deaths in El Paso. Cretins defend their own kind!

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Trump has a long history of racism and is guilty of inciting hate, violence, and racism at his rallies, with his tweets, and his public addresses.. He is also guilty of dividing the country into an us and them culture and society with his "fake news" and disdain for professional journalism.

      His latest messages show no intention of preventing mass shootings. Stephen Miller, his senior advisor is a known racist and the architect of the zero tolerance policy and other inhumane policies on the southern border. Trump and Miller both need to go and the sooner the better.

      They are ruining this country. Trump's even believes that China is paying billions for the tariffs placed on them, when just the opposite is true. Our importers pay the tariffs. It is costing our importers billions, not China. Eventually those increases will be passed onto the consumers... Take it or leave it, but it is the truth.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      The several thousand people from Guatemala and Central America forcibly crossed the southern Mexico border and they were heading to the US Mexico border. You don't call that an invasion?

      They were burning American Flags while flying the flag of their country, and demanding to get into the US. You supported that?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      “NEW: How the Trump campaign used Facebook ads to push the idea of an "invasion" on the southern border“

      *****

      Now he wants unity. Blow it out your ———-

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      perrya

      I am missing at least 3 comments

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      IMPEACH

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      I seem to be missing several of my comments. I won't redo my last one because it is too long.

      Here is all you need from the manifesto.

      He doesn't blame or follow Trump, and he was disappointed in both the democrats and the republicans but most disappointed with the democrats.

      "My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.

      Many people think that the fight for America is already lost. They couldn’t be more wrong. This is just the beginning of the fight for America and Europe."

      What point did you think the manifesto made?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      From the El Paso Shooter's Manifesto

      --------------------------------------------------

      "My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president."

      B:

      Pre Date Trump!!

      ---------------------------------------------------

      I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack.

      B:

      This is exactly what happened!

      -------------------------------------------------

      This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric.

      B:

      This is also exactly what happened!

      ------------------------------------------------

      The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that."

      B:

      While I don't support his plan to gun down Mexicans or anyone, I do think he nailed the media. Fake News.

      Mike

      Do you actually read the stuff you link of copy. You know your squad buddy Randy thinks that copy and paste is bad. In this instance, I would have to agree with him.

      You don't argue against my detailed comments, but cherry pick a sentence and copy the shooters manifesto without commenting on it.

      What point or points do you think you made on the topic of it is president Trump's fault?

      ------------------------------

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Leslie

      Once again you post the same incorrect conclusions. I have mentioned the answers to these question showing you why they are wrong, but you keep ignoring them. So just know you are once again wrong, and I am not going to waste my time again. Maybe one your squad or someone on the left can help you.

      Perry

      Maybe President Trump read is from a paper, just to make sure that the press and the democrats won't use it against him.

      The democrats and the press are using these shootings for their political campaign for the presidency, and they have taken advantage of the situation rather than trying to solve the problem. That solution is not taking or restricting the 2nd Amendment.

      I gave my example about Prohibition of Alcohol, and MADD.

      Mike

      "Brad: Your focus is on the Dayton shooting where information is still coming in. The El Paso shooters manifesto mirrors Trump's hateful rhetoric. He calls it the Hispanic Invasion of Texas. Trump uses the same term, invasion. He was motivated by The Great Replacement Theory. You wants some facts. Here are facts. It is the shooter's manifesto."

      B:

      I focused on the Dayton shooting because there was no understanding yet why the shooter did it. He even got his own sister. The main reason is that you, the media and the democrats pooled these two events together, and they are different.

      ------------------------------------------

      From the manifesto

      "The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the

      American public in our history. "

      B:

      Democrat and Republican!

      ------------------------------------------

      Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship

      and more to enact a political coup by importing and then legalizing millions of new voters. With policies like these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely

      B:

      It seems to be true, and it Trump wasn't mentioned,

      So he is pointing at the acts and actions of the democrats.

      -----------------------------------------

      Although the Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Pro-corporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration while the Republicans are divided over it. At least

      with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced.

      B:

      i think this is self explanatory.

      -----------------------------------------

      Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support immigration and work visas.

      B:

      He is reacting to Congress.

      ---------------------------------------

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      As long as the NRA controls the Republicans we'll have more murders and mass shootings. Moscow Mitch won't let any gun bills reach the Senate floor even though they've already been passed by the House.

      We've got to get these creeps out of Congress and the WH.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Here is the remainder of his manifesto:

      This bullet, unlike pretty much any other 7.62x39 bullet, actually fragments like a pistol hollow point when shot out of an ak47 at the cost of penetration. Penetration is still reasonable, but not nearly as high as a normal ak47 bullet. The ak47 is definitely a bad choice without this bullet design, and may still be with it.

      Other gun(if I get one): Ar15 – Pretty much any variation of this gun doesn’t heat up nearly as fast as the

      AK47. The round of this gun isn’t designed to fragment, but instead tumbles inside a target causing lethal wounding. This gun is probably better, but Iwanted to explore different options. The ar15 is probably the best gun for military applications but this isn’t a military application.

      This will be a test of which is more lethal, either it’s fragmentation or tumbling.

      I didn’t spend much time at all preparing for this attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have do this before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no attack and no manifesto

      Reaction Statistically, millions of migrants have returned to their home countries to reunite with the family they lost contact with when they moved to America. They

      come here as economic immigrants, not for asylum reasons. This is an encouraging sign that the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home

      countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will provide. This will remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc which will make up for the loss of millions of baby boomers. This will also make the elites that run corporations realize that it’s not in their interest to continue piss off Americans. Corporate America doesn’t need to be destroyed, but just

      shown that they are on the wrong side of history. That if they don’t bend, they will break. Personal Reasons and Thoughts

      My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist. The job of my dreams will likely be automated. Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas, changing policy to better suit their needs. They will turn Texas into an instrument of a political coup

      which will hasten the destruction of our country. The environment is getting worse by the year. If you take nothing else from this document, remember this: INACTION IS A CHOICE. I can no longer bear the shame of inaction knowing that our founding fathers have endowed me with the rights needed to save our country from the brink destruction. Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to

      repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country. They have no choice but to sit by and watch their countries burn. America can only be destroyed from the inside-out. If our country falls, it will be the fault of traitors. This

      is why I see my actions as faultless. Because this isn’t an act of imperialism but an act of preservation. America is full of hypocrites who will blast my actions as the sole result of racism and hatred of other countries, despite the extensive evidence of all the problems these invaders cause and will cause. People who are hypocrites because they support imperialistic wars that have caused the loss of tens of

      thousands of American lives and untold numbers of civilian lives. The argument that mass murder is okay when it is state sanctioned is absurd. Our government has killed a whole lot more people for a whole lot less. Even if other non-immigrant targets would have a greater impact, I can’t bring myself to kill my fellow

      Americans. Even the Americans that seem hell-bent on destroying our country. Even if they are shameless race mixers, massive polluters, haters of

      our collective values, etc. One day they will see error of their ways. Either when American patriots fail to reform our country and it collapses or when we save

      it. But they will see the error of their ways. I promise y’all that. I am against race mixing because it destroys genetic diversity and creates identity problems. Also

      because it’s completely unnecessary and selfish. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics form interracial unions at much higher rates than average. Yet another reason to send them back. Cultural and racial diversity is largely temporary. Cultural diversity diminishes as stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake weaker and/or undesirable ones. Racial diversity will disappear as either race mixing or genocide will take place. But the idea of deporting or murdering all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been here at least as long as the whites, and have done

      as much to build our country. The best solution to this for now would be to divide America into a confederacy of territories with at least 1 territory for each

      race. This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting each race self-determination within their respective territory(s).

      My death is likely inevitable. If I’m not killed by the police, then I’ll probably be gunned down by one of the invaders. Capture in this case if far worse than dying during the shooting because I’ll get the death penalty anyway. Worse still is that I would live knowing that my family despises me. This is why I’m not going to surrender even if I run out of ammo. If I’m captured, it will be because I was subdued somehow. Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfll your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security targets. Even though you might out gun a security guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor, training and numbers. Do not throw away your life

      on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day. My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.

      Many people think that the fight for America is already lost. They couldn’t be more wrong. This is just the beginning of the fight for America and Europe.

      I am honored to head the fight to reclaim my country from destruction.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Your focus is on the Dayton shooting where information is still coming in. The El Paso shooters manifesto mirrors Trump's hateful rhetoric. He calls it the Hispanic Invasion of Texas. Trump uses the same term, invasion. He was motivated by The Great Replacement Theory. You wants some facts. Here are facts. It is the shooter's manifesto.

      WALMART SHOOTER MANIFESTO

      Sat Aug 03 2019 22:31:51 ET

      The Inconvenient Truth

      About Me

      In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native

      Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political and economic reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts. Political Reasons In short, America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the

      American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important. Due to the death of the baby boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The

      Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship

      and more to enact a political coup by importing and then legalizing millions of new voters. With policies like these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely

      become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the Democrats is all it would take for them to win nearly every presidential election. Although the Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Pro-corporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration while the Republicans are divided over it. At least

      with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced. Economic Reasons In short, immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America. Continued immigration will make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. Some sources say that in under two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. Invaders who also have close to the highest birthrate of all ethnicities in America. In the near future, America will have to initiate a basic universal income to prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness in itself is a source of civil unrest. The less dependents on a government welfare system, the better. The lower the unemployment rate, the better. Achieving

      ambitions social projects like universal health care and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if tens of millions of dependents are removed.

      Even though new migrants do the dirty work, their kids typically don’t. They want to live the American Dream which is why they get college degrees and fill higher-paying skilled positions. This is why corporations lobby for even more illegal immigration even after decades of it of happening. They need to keep replenishing the low-skilled labor pool. Even as migrant children flood skilled jobs, Corporations make this worse by lobbying for even more work visas to be issued for skilled foreign workers to come here. Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support immigration and work visas. Corporations need to keep replenishing the labor pool for both skilled and unskilled jobs to keep wages down. So Automation is a good thing as it will eliminate the need for new migrants to fill unskilled jobs. Jobs that Americans can’t survive on anyway. Automation can and would replace millions of low-skilled jobs if immigrants

      were deported. This source of competition for skilled labor from immigrants and visa holders around the world has made a very difficult situation even worse for natives as they compete in the skilled job market. To compete, people have to get better credentials by spending more time in college. It used to be that a high school degree was worth something. Now a bachelor’s degree is what’s recommended to be competitive in the job market. The cost of college degrees has exploded as their value has plummeted. This has led to a generation of indebted, overqualified students filling menial, low paying and unfulfilling jobs. Of course these migrants and their children have contributed to the problem, but are not the sole cause of it.

      The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heaing the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this

      phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl creates inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The government is unwilling to tackle these issues

      beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration because more people means a bigger market for their

      products. I just want to say that I love the people of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.

      Gear Main gun: AK47 (WASR 10) – I realized pretty quickly that this isn’t a great choice since it’s the civilian version of the ak47. It’s not designed to shoot rounds quickly, so it overheats massively after about 100 shots fired in quick succession. I’ll have to use a heat-resistant glove to get around this. 8m3 bullet: This bullet, unlike pretty much any other 7.62x39 bullet, actually fragments like a pistol hollow point when shot out of an

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      8 months ago

      I think the dems will do the impeachment inquiry first, see where it goes. But Trump's speech to the nation about the recent shootings was a bit ingenuous because of his veracity problem with whatever he tweets and says and we all know it does not reflect his true feelings. This is because of his past statements of people of color etc. One could tell Trump was forced to do this announcement because he read the speech that someone else wrote. Like someone said, let's see what he states in a few days or week or so, or, at his rally. We will then see how he really feels.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I made the statement, silly! How come lying about an affair was enough to impeach, and paying off a mistress before an election was indictable, but not when Trump does it? He’s getting special treatment. Prove ME wrong.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      perrya

      Do you think that the democrats should move forward now with impeachment Inquiries or actual impeachment?

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy

      Hiding behind milk toast Mike now, how low can you go.

      Maybe leslie has a skirt you can hide behind?

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Lm

      "Don’t need the shootings to impeach the bum. He’s committed enough abuse for 10 presidents.

      Just ask him if he ordered the payments to Daniels. If he lies, he’s committed perjury. If he tells the truth, he committed campaign finance violations. Enough to ruin Edwards career, and enough to impeach Clinton. Stop giving this creep special treatment!

      Inciting violence is not a presidential trait."

      B:

      I have explained why you are wrong several times but you keep posting the same delusions. None of these repetitions are true, they only exist in your left brain.

      Prove me wrong!

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      "The Babbler." Fit's perfectly, Mike!

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      You either don't read my comments or you don't understand what you read.

      "The shooter's history in the Dayton shooting included making hit lists. In this age of government surveillance they probably have the information of that history on social media or even his computer files (who knows how far the government's big brother technology extends."

      Is this babble? Is this not a fact?

      Which part is babble?

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      I didn't think link made any points for you. Trump wasn't even in it.

      It is the democrats that have the hate and the racism. They are also the ones attacking Trump supporters because they wear MAGA hats and Fly a Trump flag.

      Show my one NYT article that isn't anti Trump?

      Got anything else?

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      Look again at my comments they are filled with facts, while yours are just old white man rants.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Your babbling has no facts. They are just your opinions. You have to be living on another planet and in an alternate reality to not see how Trump promotes violence, hate, and racism in his rallies. They are all recorded in video. Here is just one. I can post many more if you like.

      https://youtu.be/R9YPYRaeTW0

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Don’t need the shootings to impeach the bum. He’s committed enough abuse for 10 presidents.

      Just ask him if he ordered the payments to Daniels. If he lies, he’s committed perjury. If he tells the truth, he committed campaign finance violations. Enough to ruin Edwards career, and enough to impeach Clinton. Stop giving this creep special treatment!

      Inciting violence is not a presidential trait.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      These shootings in Gilroy CA, El Paso Texas, and Dayton Ohio are now being used by the democrats, especially the democrat presidential campaigners to augment their impeachment efforts, Both of these strategies are politically created because the left has no political platform, much less any to compete with President Trump.

      The shooter's history in the Dayton shooting included making hit lists. In this age of government surveillance they probably have the information of that history on social media or even his computer files (who knows how far the government's big brother technology extends.

      But like the information they had on 910, they didn't act on it and the result was a 911 huge success for 19 low tech low budget terrorists. Having the data is only the collection process, it has to be implemented into a meaningful solution to a problem that was the reason for its collection.

      At the very least this kind of information should be included in a gun buying background check.

      I am amazed and at the same time confused about the less than one minute police response time and action. It would be enlightening to know the facts about it. At the very least the police in El Paso might want to know.

      When developing a computer project, and a critical problem is found, upper management wants to get it fixed. One of the methods involves the search for the guilty, who is going to take the fall. Smarter executives realize that finding a solution is more beneficial, and making sure it is not repeated. I worked for one company that had the product already in use with a major customer, There are various types of problems involved in programming unlike problems in manufacturing. The difference is how to repeat the problem seen by the customer. Executives in their out of touch with computer problems offered the programmers a bonus to fix the problem and to get the customer satisfied.

      The bonus worked in fixing the problem that the customer reported but later different customers experienced different points. It turned out that these programmers so an opportunity to get extra income by either making bad fixes that just cured the one problem. But, it just moved the core problem to another section of the code, which a different customer would find, and the bonus would be offered to fix that and on and on.

      This long drawn out point can also be applied to these shootings which start out as the search for the guilty and then make the same kind of fixes as I described above.

      To go back to the programming example, the long term fix was to go back to the root cause of these problems that would only randomly appear at different customers as different problems. The fix was to locate and fix the design issue that didn't actually work for all the situations of the environment of varied customers. It is like trying to test all the possible paths that a program make take, but the less traveled paths don't get tested. It is a combination of rushing to market because a sales person sold the product that was still in progress as a finished and fully tested product.

      Finally, I think the same problem exists in the gun violence attacks. The politicians want to sell their fix, but they haven't tested it. I put their fix of considering all gun or potential gun owners as gun killers. They used the alcohol prohibition approach of focusing on the alcohol and not the person. First, prohibition failed and while MADD made the consequences of drinking into felonies when accidents would kill or injure people, they really didn't stop the DUI incidents.

      This MADD approach is what the liberal are trying to say will fix the problem. I disagree for the reasons i mentioned above. This is my opinion you won't find this in the media.

      BTW, in Dayton the shooter's sister was also shot?

      What I heard is that this guy just hated everyone.

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      The C&P shill is hard at it again Wonder what he's lying about this time? Not worth reading to find out...

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Trump will no doubt blame the media, the far left, the so called invasion of colored people across the border, not praying in schools, and anything else

      B:

      This is just a rant, a biased opinion against the president. It contains no facts. The search for the guilty is the democrat tactic to pin something on their opponents.

      President Trump didn't invent the mass shooters in two and a half years. It has existed for a long time under both parties running the government.

      The democrats are now using these current gun violence deaths and injuries like an ambulance chasing lawyer used the victims for personal gain.

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      but will never accept that he is to be largely blamed due to his rhetoric of racial hate

      B:

      As I just mentioned this is not the fault of President Trump. There also no facts, just the bias of the democrats and sheep of the democrats to label this as the President's Racial Hate. He is neither a Racist or does he Hate. This is the left's propaganda used to gain political advantage.

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      the mass shooters all follow the lead of POTUS

      B:

      Too date, there has been no find for the motive of the Dayton Shooter. Yet, you want to your statement to apply and imply all.

      When did President Trump advocate any violence, much less killings? It is clearly you bias derived from the democrat talking points.

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      because they view him as their white supremacy leader

      B:

      This is racism and lies from you and the left. President Trump didn't get elected using any White, or Supremacy speeches. It is a fabrication by the democrat politicians, and you fell for it.

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      because he fails to do anything about it and does not tell his fans to stop the rants at rallies and to stop the violence.

      B:

      This is another democrat fantasy. You use one campaign where a very small group said send them back. That chant is devoid of any racial, color or violence. You don't even know what was the color or race of the people making that chant, yet you chose to call them white supremacists. This is another example of the hate, the racism and the lack of the democrats political campaign other than dis the president.

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      Even his own own FBI director has said that hate crimes rise in counties where Trump has his rallies and elsewhere.

      B:

      "The president is also calling out the current FBI director Christopher Wray, accusing him of protecting the same gang who tried to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States," Hannity continued. "You know, we smelly Walmart people, irredeemable deplorables that cling to God and guns and Bibles and religion. That's us."

      "So far I don't see Director Wray doing a darn thing to clean up the upper echelon of this FBI. That's his job," he added. "For the 99% of FBI special agents that put their lives at risk for us every single day, you owe it to them to get this department, this premier law enforcement agency, right with the American people. What has Wray done to hold Comey accountable? Nothing. What about McCabe? What about Baker? What about Strzok? What about Page? Mr. Wray, it's time for you to do your job."

      "The former highest ranking employees in his bureau committed real crimes, and yet no signs that Wray seems to care one bit to bring them to justice, or working to prevent this abuse of power hyperpartisan conduct from ever, ever happening again. But in the coming months, justice will be served. We have promised you that. With or without, well, Director Wray's help," Hannity concluded.

      Hannity's comments come a day after President Trump lashed out at Wray on Twitter by quoting Fox Business Network host Lou Dobbs's criticisms of the FBI director. "Just another abuse of power in a long series of abuses of power by the Democrats that began during the Obama Administration, continued through the Mueller FBI operation, & now the baton has been passed to Jerry Nadler to continue to abuse power to harass President Trump," the president tweeted yesterday. "Even Director James Clapper admits that the FBI actions against the Trump Presidential Campaign do in fact meet the definition of spying, perhaps FBI Director Christopher Wray will be the next to do so."

      Last month, Attorney General William Barr claimed that the FBI's lawful investigation of members of Trump's 2016 campaign team was "spying" during his second-consecutive day of testimony before a Senate Appropriations subcommittee.

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      Even the shooters clearly state that Trump is promoting this sort of action using words of hate and racial bias because the color of America is changing from white to colored.

      B:

      The El Paso shooter's manifesto actually blames the democrats for creating the situation.

      Again making statements against Whites and implying that all Whites are racists, and hate non whites is false, and it is racist. Yes, the left is not immune from being Racists. We judge them as Racists by what they say and do and not their party.

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      As for Mike's comment he is biased and gives no facts.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Trump's actions and rhetoric show he is suffering from narcissism. He has a long history of racism and yet says he is the least racist person you will ever know. He promotes hate, violence, and racism in his rallies and has an overwhelming, sick need to be adored by his supporters and especially by heads of state who our enemies. That is a classic symptom of a narcissist.

      Narcissist cannot allow themselves to take the blame for anything they have done, instead they shift the blame to others, i.e, fake news, democrats, immigrants, but they will take credit for things others have done.

      Narcissist cannot change, because in their minds they believe they done nothing wrong. The only thing that can be done is to ignore them. That robs them of the oxygen they need to always be adored and the center of attention. However that is extremely difficult to do with someone like Trump who is the president of this country.

      Trump has already started blaming the fake news and the democrats for the shooting. Even though the manifesto from the Texas shooter says he was motivated in part because of Trump's fake news comments and his immigration policies.

      Trump says he wants to increase background checks; however he vetoed a bill from the democrats. He said it would limit the NRA's programs for its members. The FBI is responsible for the background checks, but they are woefully underfunded and understaffed to conduct them efficiently.

      This is just more of the same empty rhetoric by Trump and congress. They are both beholden to the NRA and gun industry for campaign funding...So our thoughts and prayers are with you...As Trump would say, sad, so sad.

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      perrya 

      8 months ago

      Trump will no doubt blame the media, the far left, the so called invasion of colored people across the border, not praying in schools, and anything else but will never accept that he is to be largely blamed due to his rhetoric of racial hate. the mass shooters all follow the lead of POTUS because they view him as their white supremacy leader because he fails to do anything about it and does not tell his fans to stop the rants at rallies and to stop the violence. Even his own own FBI director has said that hate crimes rise in counties where Trump has his rallies and elsewhere. Even the shooters clearly state that Trump is promoting this sort of action using words of hate and racial bias because the color of America is changing from white to colored.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Know your history.

      “Bill Clinton banned assault weapons in 1994; mass shootings dropped by 43%.

      Bush and the GOP let the ban expire in 2004; they went up over 230%.”

      *****

      Thoughts and prayers don’t cut it. And btw, guess who your beloved NRA has ties to? Need I say it? Butina.....Torshin.....Vladdy baby.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Ooops, here’s another one who knows what’s to blame

      “The Texas Lieutenant Governor says it's not firearms or white supremacy that caused yesterday's massacre in El Paso, it's that kids don't pray in school anymore“

      Yet again, no mention of the military style assault weapons that are readily available to any one. The massacre weapon of choice.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Too early? Not for her:

      “Representative Candice Keller, who lives in Middletown, around 30 miles south of Dayton, said that after every mass shooting "the liberals start the blame game," and asked "why not place the blame where it belongs?"

      Keller attributed the killings to various problems that she said stemmed from the "breakdown of the traditional American family (thank you, transgender, homosexual marriage, and drag queen advocates)."

      She also listed video games, "fatherlessness" and "the acceptance of recreational marijuana" as other ills that contributed to the shootings.

      She said that former President Barack Obama was to blame for a "disrespect to law enforcement," expressed anger at "snowflakes, who can't accept a duly-elected president," and took aim at the "the relaxing of laws against criminals (open borders)."

      *********

      Pretty standard fare, isn’t it? Blame gay people, and of course, Obama. Blame snowflakes and liberals.

      But of course, not ONE mention of any wack job’s easy access to military style assault rifles in this country. Not one!

      After one massacre in New Zealand, the LEADER banned assault rifles. We just say thoughts and prayers and wait for the next one.

      Free country? More like under siege.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      The chief said Dayton police officers were patrolling the bustling area of bars and restaurants when they heard the first shots erupt at 1:05 a.m.

      He said 30 seconds after the gunman fired the first shots, he was killed by an officer in front of the Ned Peppers bar.

      Biehl said the suspect was attempting to get into Ned Peppers when he was gunned down.

      "Had this individual made it through the doorway of Ned Peppers, there would have been catastrophic injury and loss of life," Biehl said.

      He added it was too early to say what the motive for the shooting was.

      "Any suggestion at this time on motive would be irresponsible," Biehl said.

      Mike

      Take your medication.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: So sorry you feel that way.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy

      When do Trump supporters hit anti Trumpers. Why are there so many instances where just wearing a MAGA hat or flying a Trump flag provoke the anti Trump to sucker punch them, beat them up and throw things at their car.

      Is it Trump fans that douse Police with water because De Blasio won't support the police when they are doing their job.

      You make accusations all the time but they are base less and contain no facts or references.

      go to sleep Uncle Scott. You are the white supremacist!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Amen.

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      The amount of hate from Trump's supporters is beyond belief. They deserve what they get when Trump is brought to justice.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy

      Did you accuse Obama for the deaths in Benghazi?

      he and hillary took down Libya, that was the sine qua non for Benghazi.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      Dec 11, 2018 · In 2017, the president managed to secure about $1.6 billion for border protection projects, but they are primarily for fortifying existing border fencing, not expanding the current wall.

      In any case, why couldn't the democrat agree to give the president $5 Billion for the wall, when the budget was $4.4 Trillion?

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy

      Why? What is the basis of this accusation? Where is the proof, the facts, the evidence?

      Then we should blame the democrats when they hide Convicted Illegal Alien Felons from being deported and they kill or commit another felony?

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      I consider anyone who supports Trump as partially to blame for the latest shootings.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy

      Another no comment, personal attack.

      Afraid to talk about facts, so you hide behind these responses.

      Uncle Randy what is productive, RC.

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Arguing with a shill is never productive, Mike. Simply ignore him/her/it and it will go away.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      Another rant, another diversion, and another avoidance from you.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: You are an open book. That is exactly what I expected from you and Trump is to shift the blame to the democrats and not be man enough to admit when you,Trump, and his supporters are to blame.

      A classic sign of narcissism is never accepting blame for your own actions, but shifting it to the person that questions you. Trump is very good at that and so are you.

      It's interesting, whenever a racist is called a racist, they always call the person who accused them of being a racist, a racist.. It is so convoluted but that is precisely what you people do.

      I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't have to answer any of your questions, they would just get us into a never ending whirlpool and I'm not going there.

      If you like the president's action, then that makes you a xenophobic, racists, white supremacist, who causes mass shootings. You ask what I don't like about Trump. It's all the things that I listed, and then some, that you haven't commented on

      You say I don't have any facts about the wall. Here is an interactive map of an aerial view of the wall, along 2,000 miles of the border. Have fun.

      https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall/

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      You didn't give any facts, no connections to make any arguments for your statements they are just you biased opinion.

      As I mentioned to perry

      You are part of that white supremacy.

      It is the democrats that have divided the country. It was divided when Obama was president, with the riots in Ferguson, and other riots on liberal college campuses when conservative speakers tried to speak there.

      Trump didn't created the abortion division. He didn't created the child separation at the border.

      The democrats are the racist making every white person tied to the KKK.

      You don't have any facts to go with xenophobic, racism, white supremacy, or mass shootings.

      I like the presidents actions, what don't you like about it.

      And what country has your president, if Trump is not your president?

      For example you say

      "You have a president who wants to build a wall that already exists."

      Where are your facts to support this statement.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Because everything I stated about Trump and his behavior is helping to create a divided country with a xenophobic environment of racism, white supremacy and mass shootings. And you and people like you are in denial and make excuses for your president's actions.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      perrya

      "legally, the act of omission can constitute a crime in itself"

      B:

      What is the crime you are eluding to in your statement?

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      , failing to act to prevent hatred and racial comments only acts to incite those willing to act it out in the false belief that Trump spouts regarding white America.

      B:

      What is the crime?

      What is the legal duty to do anything as an element of that crime?

      You, Mike, Scott, Randy, Dean, and Leslie are part of white America. Sounds kind of racist to me.

      What is the false belief?

      What are they willing to act out?

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      Why didn't he tell his crowds at the rallies to stop the chants of hatred?

      B:

      What hatred?

      Seriously, what hatred?

      What about Maxine Waters telling her people to go out find these people and get in their face. And tell them we don't want them in our restaurant. That is incitement, Trump didn't do that. He didn't encourage them did he? But Maxine Waters and what she did is not crime according the you, is that true?

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      "because is actually likes it and condones it. That sends approval to those willing to take deadly action. One day, some wack will take a shot at him, just wait."

      B:

      Who is willing to take deadly action?

      Who stopped Kathy Griffin?

      Who said they wanted to punch Trump, De Nero and Biden. Whose is telling them to stop.

      Then why are there so many instances of people wearing MAGA hats or flying Trumps flags are the ones that are being sucker punched and beaten up, have things thrown at them while they are driving.

      These occurrences are on youtube, So what is your point. It is always helpful when statements about crimes and the law are mentioned that we have details to put some context to it.

      There really isn't any crime, and an act of omission is really more of a civil law of Torts. And the element in the tort specifies that there is a duty to act. Negligence is a Tort that has Duty as one of its elements.

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      BTW

      i seem to be missing some comments to Mike have you seen any.

      Just asking.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      8 months ago

      legally, the act of omission can constitute a crime in itself, failing to act to prevent hatred and racial comments only acts to incite those willing to act it out in the false belief that Trump spouts regarding white America. Why didn't he tell his crowds at the rallies to stop the chants of hatred? because is actually likes it and condones it. That sends approval to those willing to take deadly action. One day, some wack will take a shot at him, just wait.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      i posted it, but it doesn't seem to be here. There appears to be several missing??

      How does your last several comments relate to my comment on Randy and LM?

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Here are the stats on mass shootings just in 2019, the number of crimes committed by illegals, the white supremacy gangs compared to Muslims. And you never commented on my post about Trump as your president.

      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-sh...

      https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/e...

      https://www.theoaklandpress.com/lifestyles/more-am...

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      The democrats and their falling down left media are once again on their gun control mantra.

      "Castro: El Paso, Dayton shootings are the result of a ‘toxic brew of white nationalism’

      msnbc

      Ohio shooting witness: 'That next shot might be you'

      msnbc

      Dayton Ohio mass shooting: Police confirm 9 dead

      msnbc

      Beto O'Rourke calls for gun control, says we need to confront hate after El Paso shooting

      msnbc

      Rev. Al Sharpton: Action needed, not prayer, to fight domestic terrorism,

      B:

      Using these tragedies, random acts of violence to stoke their political campaigns. They use the same illogical reasoning in these shootings as they do in AGW. We already have gun control, and a lot of it, but criminals and the mentally disturbed cannot be shuttered with a Law. They will find a way, take away the guns, and they will use other means to kill and injure.

      Remember even a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol results in criminal running a new illegal business. The use of alcohol exceeded its use before prohibition. People seem drawn to want something even more when they are told it is against the law. Apply that to the rampant drug use across the country.

      We lost the war on drugs, gangs, and prostitution. Criminal laws are not going to stop criminals. The media doesn't apply the shootings to the individuals they want to rope in a whole race within single acts of violence. Yet, they will bend over backwards to excuse any deaths caused by Muslims or Illegal Aliens.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy

      As one of the stupid people, I guess you are talking from experience.

      You are one insecure old codger.

      You are like the dog that barks, but has no bite. The bite in this analogy is Facts, not rants and personal attacks that just show how insecure you are.

      Your next comment is going to be my proof.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      A crime that has no indictment is not a crime.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      You lie

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      I agree with you comment, Perry. Stupid people elected the cretin and stupid people believe his BS.

      Ara, don't let the trolls stop you from commenting here. It's what their goal is..

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      Ara Vahanian 

      8 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      Randy: in the last 24 hours alone, this is a sign that the United States is a nation that is in decline. Thank you for your support of me. This is the reason I tend to stay away from commenting too much on political articles specifically as it relates to the US because there;s always going to be someone with different views than me who tries to give me a hard time for a stupid reason. I'm done dealing with stuff like this. Thanks again for your support.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Sorry you feel that way about perrya.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      PerryA

      Your comment is devoid of facts, and full of rant.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      8 months ago

      Anyone who does not believe that Trump contributes to the shootings by his rhetoric that those wacks on the fringe act upon, is just stupid. By not condemning white supremacy, he approves and condones it so others commit shooteings.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad:

      You have a president who has a long history of racism.

      You have a president who says he is the least racist person you will ever know.

      You have a president who holds rallies that promote hate, violence, and racism.

      You have a president who ennobles white supremacy with his rhetoric.

      You have president who has separated children from their parents

      You have a president who has people living in cages in inhumane conditions.

      You have a president who wants to build a wall that already exists.

      You have a president who has exaggerated the threat of people wanting to enter this country legally.

      You have a president who is beholden to the NRA and gun manufactures

      You have a president who acts on foreign policy advice from right wing radio talk show hosts.

      You have a president who has demeaned freedom of speech from credible journalist in order to divide and manipulate the populous.

      You have a president who has a senior advisor who is a known racists in the name of Stephen Miller

      You have a president who lives in an alternate reality who thinks that countries who he places tariffs on are paying billions for the tariffs. When in fact, The U.S. importers pay the tariffs, not the exporters.

      You have a president who is definitely suffering from narcissism as evidenced by his incessant need to be admired by others, including Putin, Kim, Saudi's, and Netanyahu.

      You have president who can never admit he is wrong and transfers his blame to others.

      You have a president that can't deal with details, but takes actions based on generalities.

      You have a president that won't release his tax returns because he is afraid of what people will find.

      You have a president who feigns patriotism by wrapping his arms around the American flag who has never served a day in the military because he and others have lied about his bones spurs. And yet he golfs every chance he gets.

      And then we have people like you who have voted for him who are in denial and make excuses for all of his actions, all under the guise of MAGA.

      And for all of the people who have been killed and wounded in the latest two mass shootings, you and they, including the president say,"Our thoughts and prayers are with you." Good job Mr. President!!...Sorry you feel that way Brad.

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      29 murdered and dozens wounded because of the cretin's words. Perhaps now Nancy will see the light and get his ass outta there!

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      Why can't you answer my comment?

      If you agree with what they wrote, then I will have to include you with them.

      It was a Rant with no facts, a lot of bias against the President and the writing itself was vague ambiguous and without any foundation or facts.

      Much like I argue is your style of writing.

      For example, is this supposed to be a comment that is not vague and ambiguous?

      "Brad: Sorry you feel that way about Leslie and Randy."

      1. What is the way that I feel about Leslie and Randy? Is it them, or what they write.

      2. Why are you sorry?

      3. You avoid the details of my comments completely so there is no reference to your statement. No one knows if you are even using my statement to make your comment.

      4. You have done everything except tell us what you think? And you didn't need to intervene for them, as their comments stand on their own.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Sorry you feel that way about Leslie and Randy.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Read their comments and tell me why they are not raving lunatics.

      Tell me what is sane about their comments?

      Tell me what facts they have used in their rants?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      It most definately is related to this article. The article asks, What nowt?

      Impeach the bum, before more people are killed, before it reaches race war status.

      These are radicalized extremists with assault rifles. No different than radical Islam.

      In fact, if these 3 shooters .......now it’s happened in Dayton, Ohio and Seattle....if they were radical Muslims, you would have no problem calling it what it is. Because they are radicalized white nationalists, you want to water it down. And we know exactly what

      will be said: “ these are crazy nut jobs, you can’t blame trump.” And, “now is not the time to talk about guns”

      And we wait for the next one. As trump ratchets up the hate in each campaign rally. And fox news ratchets up the hate on tv. And talk radio ratchets up the hate on radio. And 8 Chan ratchets up the conspiracy theories that are brainwashing people.

      And we keep selling these demented people guns.

      Demented:

      “driven to behave irrationally due to anger, distress, or excitement.”

      What’s driving them? The stochastic terrorist in the Whitey House.

      IMO

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      Read their comments and tell me why they are not raving lunatics.

      Tell me what is sane about their comments?

      Tell me what facts they have used in their rants?

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      I pay no attention to what the shill says Mike, I suggest you do likewise. :)

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Those who support Trump are partially responsible for the even in El Paso and other parts of the US and overseas.

      Let them make excuses for the cretin. They will not be remembered kindly in years to come.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: You are commenting about the Mueller report. I give you credit for that because that is the topic of this article. But Randy and LM are commenting about the Walmart Shooter and you are calling them raving lunatics without any basis for that.

      By the way, I have a copy of the shooter's manifesto. He must have typed it from his phone because there were dangling characters at the end of each line of text. I re-formatted it and read it. I'm appalled at what I read. He is a white supremacist who hates race mixing.

      Sorry Perrya, I didn't mean to hijack your article.

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy and LM

      You two are certified lunatics.

      Ranting Raving lunatics.

      Not a single fact between the both of you.

      Anti Americans.

      Where in the Mueller report does it say that Mueller had enough evidence to Indict President Trump on any charge. Page Number Please?

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      It's similar to other race inspired events, Leslie. Hitler would have never been anything but a house painter without the support of his racist supporters.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Posted 57 minutes ago

      “America is ‘under attack from white nationalist terrorism’: Mayor Pete Buttigieg”

      It’s always been for some people. Always always been terror living here. It needs to end, now.

      Can you imagine the post traumatic stress people live with everyday, due to this shitbag in chief?

      If Pelosi is still hesitant, they need to move forward without her.

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      This may be the start of a turning point, Leslie. How many innocent victims does it take to see the horror the POTUS is causing? His supporters apparently do not care.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Trump has got to go. The question needs to be asked of Pelosi, how much more of this do you allow?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Where in the Mueller report does it say that Mueller had enough evidence to Indict President Trump on any charge. Page Number Please?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy and LM

      What a pair, just ranting and whining without knowing the facts.

      No doubt neither one of you knows anything!

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      No doubt the shooter was acting on Trump's rhetoric. How many American citizens--many of them children--have to die before we get this cretin out of the Oval Office?

      This young punk drove ten hours to kill old people and children. This crap has got to stop! Another AK47 killing spree and the coward gave up. I would be tempted to kill him then and there if I were a cop. Good thing I'm not...

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      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      It’s nothing compared to Trump, who says they hate America and execute babies.

      Texas shooter posted an anti immigrant rant on ( you’ll never believe it) 8 Chan. Nooooo! Home of Q.

      Said they were infesting our country and taking our jobs. Geeeee, wonder who gave him that idea?

      Didn’t the prez retweet 8 Chan stuff? You know, the train running over the CNN reporter, or the golf ball knocking Hillary out?

      This is the stuff your president does in his spare time.

      He’s inciting violence, along with obstructing justice. What a guy.

      Trained by the best. *wink*

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Mike

      Feel what way?

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: I'm sorry you feel that way about democrats.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Randy

      Your comments are just attacks, nothing intelligent, just a real insecurity.

      ARA you judge my comments against Randy.

      Randy you are the poster child for RC.

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      Randy Godwin 

      8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Ara, disregard the resident know-nothing at all. He's just here to copy and paste his normal pro-Trump BS. In other words, don't feed the trolls....

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      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Ara

      First of all you didn't refute any of my arguments on your comment. But you did take the personal attack route of the left.

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      "Research the obvious reason for yourself Brad."

      B:

      Really, this is the way you answer a question. I have no idea about the reason, so it isn't obvious. It was a legitimate question to ask when there is no reference and no context.

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      I'm not telling you a thing. Don't take this as criticism but as a way to educate yourself which you don't seem to even want to do.

      B:

      Why should I take that personal attack as a criticism.

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      They are trying to help these so called illegal aliens on a path to citizenship. Whether that's right or wrong, that's beyond the scope pf this article.

      B:

      Does that answer my question on what the democrats have been doing for American and the people? NO!

      It is not the job of congress to break the law, the laws they wrote and didn't change. By doing that they have put the illegal aliens, not the "so called" but illegal aliens above the law. They are supposed to help the Americans, and legal immigrants in this country, but they haven't done that with all the homeless. But you ignored my statements on that issue.

      -----------------------------------------------

      What is wrong with helping people that are less fortunate? They are not any less human than you or I.

      B:

      Again, that is not the job of the US congress. If they want to help these people than rewrite the immigration laws, not violate them. There are over 7 billion people in the world, with open borders you will have them all moving to the US.

      What have the democrats done for their constituents?

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      The idea that Democrats want to have open borders is just laughable because it is just an idea pushed by conservatives who are ignorant and uneducated. By the way, I'm not saying that you personally tried to bring across this idea, I'm saying that the idea of Democrats wanting open borders is a conservative talking point.

      B:

      It is not a talking point, it is a verifiable Fact. They have refused to give money for the wall. The democrats have created sanctuary cities and states to prevent illegals from being deported. Even president Obama deport a lot of them But the new super left doesn't want to do that, not even for Convicted Illegal Alien Felons, another fact.

      You live in LA, you know what is going on, and if you don't then why not?

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      Eric Trump once famously said on Fox News: "Democrats aren't even people." Democrats did not try to impeach Trump from Day one of his presidency that is really false as well. They did not initiate these things on January 20, 2017. You should know better than that and I know you do. I wish you well."

      B:

      They did talk about Impeachment to remove him from office days after he won the election. Don't get so rigid to think in terms of actually impeaching him. They vowed to resist him and do everything to remove him from office, and that is another fact. And even today they haven't tried to formally impeach him, but they keep threatening and that is what we are talking about.

      ---------------------------------------------------

      B:

      Ignored most of my comment, cherry picked this one and didn't really have any arguments to make a point.

      What I haven't seen here from you is some factual argument that can bring your point so that we can discuss it.

      What have the democrats done for America, and its people?

      If the democrats are not for open borders, then why don't they give Trump the money to build it.

      Why are some of the democrat presidential candidate going to the border like Cory Booker to hand walk them across.

      Why are many democrats in the government sending out information to the illegals to show them how to avoid federal deportation?

      Why should illegal aliens get free medical?

      Why should student loans be forgiven, and people get free college? What about all those students that actually paid back their student loan.?

      What is happening to the homeless in states run by the democrats, like the whole west coast?

      What about the drug users in the homeless?

      What about the mentally ill in the homeless?

      What about the rat infest ghettos of the inner city?

      What about the military veterans that have been injured doing their job protecting the country?

      What about all of the people in this country that are on drugs both domestic and foreign? Especially when they become suicidal.

      What about the child and sex traffickers that come across the open border?

      What about the gang problems all across the country?

      What are the democrats doing besides illegal aliens and hating President Trump?

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      Ara Vahanian 

      8 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      Research the obvious reason for yourself Brad. I'm not telling you a thing. Don't take this as criticism but as a way to educate yourself which you don't seem to even want to do. They are trying to help these so called illegal aliens on a path to citizenship. Whether that's right or wrong, that's beyond the scope pf this article. What is wrong with helping people that are less fortunate? They are not any less human than you or I. The idea that Democrats want to have open borders is just laughable because it is just an idea pushed by conservatives who are ignorant and uneducated. By the way, I'm not saying that you personally tried to bring across this idea, I'm saying that the idea of Democrats wanting open borders is a conservative talking point. Eric Trump once famously said on Fox News: "Democrats aren't even people." Democrats did not try to impeach Trump from Day one of his presidency that is really false as well. They did not initiate these things on January 20, 2017. You should know better than that and I know you do. I wish you well.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      8 months ago

      Ara

      Medicare for those that are old is not really adequate. It is not free, and it requires a supplemental insurance.

      The medicare for all today includes illegal aliens?

      In addition, the democrats want free college and dismiss existing debt of student loans that students are not paying.

      The illegal aliens are above the law.

      The democrats want open borders to allow any and all into the country by breaking the law. What have the democrats done for the US homeless, the drug use that comes with it, and the drugs in addition to it.

      Robert Mueller was appointed because Fired James Comey leaked his alleged FBI classified memos to a friend who sent it to the NY Times for the purpose of have the congress appoint a SC.

      It was for nothing because there were already four democrat forced investigation that came up with no crime.

      The Mueller Report made it a fifth investigation without finding a crime.

      Vol 2 of the Mueller Report as it stands didn't find enough to indict, leaving his 10 Potential Obstruction as his opinion, but without evidence to support it.

      Mueller stacks his investigation with 18 democrat, and some Hillary supporters, include a Clinton foundation lawyer, and yet they find nothing. What is that Obvious Reason that you mention?

      In addition, the FBI through using the Russian supplied information to include in the Christopher Steele Report spied on Carter Page, and through him the Trump organization, and found nothing. They never even charged Carter Page for any crime.

      Ara as a student, did you really research this or just use your democrat hat?

      What have the democrats done in the last 3 years for America and the people? Hasn't their main focus been on the Illegal Aliens, and trying to Impeach Trump from day 1 for any number of things?

      It seems to me that the democrats of today, were the socialists of the 1930s around the world.

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      Ara Vahanian 

      8 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      I'll add something basic to this. The idea that all Democrats have done is to help illegal aliens is just false. Does anyone remember the Medicare for All proposals. Who did that? Not the Republicans but the Democrats of course. The idea that all the Democrats have done is to try and help illegal aliens is an argument that conservatives try to push through when they have nothing else to talk about. Robert Muller was not appointed as a Special Counsel for no reason. There's a reason he was doing that job and that reason is obvious.

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