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Conservative Vs. Progressive Issues and Policies

Updated on August 8, 2020
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Jack is retired. Before retiring, he worked at IBM for over 28 years. His articles have over 120,000 views.

Introduction

I would like to challenge any liberal progressives on HubPages to debate the issues based on merit. I will create a text module for each issue in question. I will append any submissions to me as opposing points of view and place them side by side for the readers to compare. There will be a poll at the end. Please provide feedback. Thanks.

- Aug. 2016

Public Schools (Progressive)

Progressive Solution proposal from Peoplepower73.

As a liberal, I don't care where you send your kids to school. Charter schools are great, but they require a close interaction between students teachers, and parents. They also require funding. Many of them get additional funding from the parents and donations. I don't think they would work in poverty stricken areas.

I can only speak for my state, California. We have a lottery that was supposed to fund our school system. In the beginning, it was great, but then the state went bankrupt. All the money was funneled to the state and to the mega salaries to the school administrators. The lottery is still in place, but the money does not trickle down to the kids and the teachers. My solution stop the rip-off to the teachers and the kids.

Public Schools

Our public schools, especially in the inner cities are not working. Kids are graduating without the basic knowledge of Reading Writing and Arithmetic. The Teacher's union, along with local politicians refuses any suggestions to improve the current system. All they want is more tax dollars. After years and years of the same thing, we are currently paying over $11,000 per year per student in America. Yet, our students are at best in the mediocre status among the industrial nations of the world. In a global economy, that is unacceptable. Conservatives believe we should allow parents to have choices. They should be offered the option of sending their kids to Charter schools or be given vouchers so that they can send their kids to alternative schools such as private or parochial school. This increased competition will incentivize the public schools to improve. Our children are our future.They deserve an opportunity to reach their dreams and a basic education.

Illegal Immigration (Progressive)

Progressive proposal from Peoplepower73.

President Obama's solution that was blocked by the supreme court because of a tie. (That is not supposed to happen in SCTUS). We should have 9 justices, but your conservatives buddies are holding out until after the election.

The case, United States v. Texas, No. 15-674, concerned a 2014 executive action by the president to allow as many as five million unauthorized immigrants who were the parents of citizens or of lawful permanent residents to apply for a program that would spare them from deportation and provide them with work permits. The program was called Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents, or DAPA.

The reason jobs are so low, is because of outsourcing of jobs by the big moneyed corporations and interests. It's all about their bottom line. If you ran a company, wouldn't you want your labor to be as cheap as possible? Trump is not going to be able to bring jobs back. He will have to fight the corporations and their bottom line. The facts are that Obama has a zero sum game for Mexico. He has deported as many as he as allowed in.

Illegal Immigration Reform

Our immigration system and border patrol is not working. Every year, millions of people come here illegally, either by over-staying their VISA or sneaking across our borders. Once they are here, they are granted all sorts of priviledges and must be given a fair hearing by our courts before being deported. Conservatives believe that in order for us to be a country, we must have borders, language, and culture. People should immigrate here according to our laws. They need to apply, and be tested for diseases and after a background check process, be able to come here legally and be give a green card status. This is how immigration is supposed to work. In order to stem the migration of illegal immigrants, we need to secure our southern borders, and track all VISA holders. People who break our laws should be deported back to their home country.

There are 3 main reasons to control our borders.

1. Economic- Jobs for Americans and our teenagers, 93 million out of work.

2. Health - to prevent communicable diseases from coming here.

3. Terrorism - Stop terrorists that are trying to come here like ISIS.

Healthcare (Progressive)

Progressive proposal from Peoplepower73.

The reason Obama Care (ACA) is over 2.000 pages is because it is a body of laws to regulate insurance companies, service providers, and computer infrastructure. It is not a simple insurance policy. The conservatives 19 page plan is nothing more than a proposal. As far as letting insurance companies become free market to increase competition does not take into account greed and corruption. They will all raise premiums, regardless of competition. Again, it is the bottom line they are concerned about.

Obama's initial plan was a "single payer" system, but it was shot down by your republican congress. Obama had to compromise in order for ACA to be passed Here is how it works: Single-payer healthcare is a system in which the state, rather than private insurers, pays for all healthcare costs.[1] Single-payer systems may contract for healthcare services from private organizations (as is the case in Canada) or may own and employ healthcare resources and personnel (as is the case in the United Kingdom).

Jack: Here is a reality check: All candidates can pledge any wondrous things they want on their first days in office. But there are three factors at work: (1) The mix of republican to democrats in the house and the senate; (2) The big corporations and big moneyed interest; (3) Lobbyists. This is far too complex to describe in a reply, but I have written a hub about this.

Healthcare Reform

Conservatives propose the repeal of the current ACA. It was a bad bill passed by a one party-controlled Congress. It was a 2000+ pages of bureacratic monstrosity that was destined to fail.

Conservatives do not believe we need a comprehensive bill. It should be simplified and passed in several pieces that address the current problems.

One such piece should make sure people with existing pre-conditions would be able to get healthcare coverage.

The primary change would be to allow insurance companies to compete across State lines. More competition will lead to lower cost and improved coverage.

Another change would expand Medicaid coverage to some who cannot afford basic health insurance. This is a better alternative to the current ACA plan. The infrastructure and administration is already in place. Just allowing more people to qualify would automatically give more people access to healthcare at lower burden to the tax payers.

Remove the 30 hour limit for workers and the 50 workers cap for small businesses. This is the one part that has killed job creation and have forced many workers to the P/T worker category.

Crime and Violence (Progressive Solution)

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Crime and Violence in Inner Cities

Conservatives believe in law and order and that applies to all citizens equally. The high incidence of shootings and drugs in our inner cities are unacceptable. It is possible to reduce crime and violence in large cities. We have done it in NYC under mayor Giuliani. He instituted tough policing and stop and frisk to remove illegal guns and weapons from the streets. He cracked down on petty crimes which is behind the broken windows theory of policing. All this has left NYC better and more prosperous.

Solution for Chicago:

1. Bring in the National guards on a temporary bases to stabilize the situation.

2. Institute tough policing (stop and frisk) to confiscate illegal guns.

3. Crack down on gang violence and illegal drug dealers.

4. Institute PAL and other activities to bridge police and local youths. Give them an opportunity to play sports and learn a skill.

5. Improve local schools by firing the Board of Ed. and revamp from top to bottom.

A Non Scientific Poll

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