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DID ROMNEY REALLY WIN.....WHAT?

Updated on June 30, 2014

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DID ROMNEY REALLY WIN ……….WHAT ?

Well, it is said that Romney won the first debate. Winning the first debate I would say was in the ears of the hearers. Romney did manage to take control of the debate from the moderator, who seemed to enjoy hearing Romney’s attacks on Obama’s record as President. Jim moderated like an NFL replacement referee; he allowed personal fouls, interference, and unsportsmanlike conduct by refusing to give up when time was out. At times it seemed that Jim gave Romney more time to score and limited the President’s time to defend. The President definitely didn’t win last night and Romney didn’t say anything different except he agreed with the President before he disagreed with the President about everything. Romney and the Republicans have always attacked, disagreed with and tried to destroy the President’s record since day one. The Debate last night only gave Romney his biggest stage and audience to shout out Republican’s disagreements with the President’s action, without describing his and the Conservative’s plans of action. Romney seemed relaxed, happy mentally, and well regulated last night, I’m sure his wife was relieved when it was over; it seems her worries were unfounded.

President Obama seemed like he for moments during the debate had that feeling that show in his face, when he was called a liar during that State of The Union Address. Remember how he looked “P….. Off” BUT DIDN’T DEMAND RESPECT. I guess he doesn’t know how to demand respect and not look like an angry black man. I think that the President, being the commander and chief, should have demanded the respect of the moderator and insist that he follow the rules set forward. That has always been the job of “All the President’s Men” to set the stage. It wouldn’t have happened like that when “The Decider” was in office. Moderators and candidates were not allowed to imply that the most powerful man in the world was a Liar, in a worldwide broadcast debate. It was considered unpatriotic to disagree with Bush’s policies his first term in office. I guess The President has to really realize that if the Republican Party is willing to further destroy the American economy for four years after the Nation enters a recession, they are ruthless. If the party is ruthless enough to not care about the 47% for four whole years all in an attempt to discredit his record as President, he should not be surprised by the ruthlessness and disrespect. He needs to know the Republicans put it all on the table this time; it’s all or nothing for the GOP. The GOP knows that 47% of the people are not fooled, but they don’t know how many of the rest of the people know what they did to the American people to make the President look bad.

The other three debates will, I hope, be moderated better than the one last night by the “empty chair”. These three debates are the Republicans last three great hopes of convincing the people that they have a better plan than President Obama. The 2010 Mid Term tea party Republicans voted into Congress promised jobs if elected, they have been sitting there waiting on “their President”. The people need Government jobs if the job creators are also waiting on a Republican President. The problem is and always has been jobs.

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  • junko profile imageAUTHOR

    junko 

    6 years ago

    Thanks for the shout out Dusty. It seems like tit for tat in the 2012 debates and too much disrespect all around. I hope the President can win the upcoming debate without a slapdown of Romney, being disrespectful is not the style of the President. This time he must fight fire with fire if water don't put out the fire.

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    Dusty 50 

    6 years ago

    Junko, it was an interesting debate that some number like 57 or 67 million viewers watched, that is an astounding number vs the Obama vs McCain debate of 5-7 million. I'll leave it there, as many have thoughts and I'm a decided and will not argue the topic. I watched the VP debate last night, I was relatively disgusted with Bidens disrespect of Paul Ryan.

    Peace and Blessings,

    Dusty

  • junko profile imageAUTHOR

    junko 

    6 years ago

    Well Patritte, I guess it's a matter of who's lie you want to believe. We all lie or rationalized the truth to make our points believeable. The bottom line is, who do you trust? I trust Obama and the Democratic party. I think you trust Romney and the Republican party. We are all Americans in the same boat in the mist of a storm, and we all got a right to be wrong. Yes, as far as Feenix is concerned no news is good news, I hope he is well. I like your dialog

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    Patriette 

    6 years ago from Las Vegas, NV

    Is this the Obama 'substance and truth' you're talking about?:

    "Governor Romney's tax plan would actually raise taxes on middle class families..." "Serial Dishonesty" according to the Wall Street Journal.

    "As a corporate raider, he shipped jobs to China and Mexico." Misleading, unfair and untrue. No evidence of offshoring jobs.

    "Mitt Romney - an end to the Medicare Promise." A falsehood so outrageous, it was dubbed the "Lie of the Year."

    "The Fast and Furious Program, uh was a field initiated program. Begun under the previous administration." Falsely claimed the government's failed gun running operation that killed Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry started in October of 2009.

    "This was not our program per se." Not Accurate. The loan Solyndra received was made possible by the stimulus. So Mr. President, it is your program, per se."

    "We took some emergency actions, but that accounts for about 10% of this increase in the deficit." Obama is falsely claiming again. At some point a president has to take ownership for his own actions.

    "We haven't gotten the comprehensive immigration reform done, but it wasn't for a lack of trying or desire." Wrong again. Obama never followed through on his word. Even with complete control of Congress for 2 whole years.

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    Patriette 

    6 years ago from Las Vegas, NV

    Good question, Junko. I don't know where feenix has been. He's probably working on another 'outta the ball park'' hub series,, and he does have his volunteer commitments. I'm sure we'll here from him soon. In the meantime, no news is good news.

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    I will try to be as refreshing as I can be because it means something to you and I like you, Patriette. On style and loud and clear, Romney won, no contest. On substance and truth, Obama won, no contest. Now that is the truth and nothing but the truth, If you listen on NPR and watch a rebroadcast(not at the same time) you would agree with me and it would be refreshing. Where is Feenix?

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    Patriette 

    6 years ago from Las Vegas, NV

    There is one thing Obama said at the 2008 convention that's seems to be playing out in his favor this time around: "If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from." And that's exactly the Obama strategy this time around. Obama blames Romney (or Bush) for everything he ACTUALLY DID or WILL DO if reelected.

    It would be refreshing if those on the left would just admit that Obama failed the debate miserably, just like their leftist ideology has failed... reflect, change strategy and act like adults for a change. But no, that would be too sensible.

    Obama lost the debate - Get over it!

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    Thank you, ImKarn for your kind words. I will check out your recent post.

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    Patriette' everything that Romney said that was not a lie was a misrepresentation of facts. Did you hear everything Romney said, or did you miss the debate?

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    Thank you Mary for your encouraging comments. I heard your wish anyway and your wish is also encouraging to me.

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    Karen Silverman 

    6 years ago

    he only lied about everything - what he didn't lie about - he misled or bullied through..

    i agree 100% Junko - but - i also believe that the people are more interested who LOOKED better and sounded more confident - than the actual words spoken! I'd love if you'd read what i wrote yesterday...or today actually..lol..

    not pressure at all but i think you'd enjoy - you'll recognize the titles...lol

    voting and sharing forward

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    Patriette 

    6 years ago from Las Vegas, NV

    What exactly did Romney lie about? I missed that part.

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    Mary Wells 

    6 years ago

    I won't try to tell you to write more often, but I wish you would.

  • junko profile imageAUTHOR

    junko 

    6 years ago

    MizBejabbers, you are truly full of it. I also notice the eyes, I guess he was high on a feeling. Thank you for your thought, your cup runnit over.

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    always exploring, I believe that all the people that know the truth was completely surprised and shock that Romney lied so masterfully on the world stage. He most likely decieved the world audience, but here in America the majority of the voters know the truth. Thank you for stopping by and talking.

  • junko profile imageAUTHOR

    junko 

    6 years ago

    Thank you, for commenting Anne. I also trust the President and feel Romney won nothing.

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    Doris James-MizBejabbers 

    6 years ago from Beautiful South

    "Romney seemed relaxed...." Did you look at his eyes? He had a nervous squint all the way through the debate. To me he looked as nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rockers (excuse the old axiom). He has flip-flopped so many times on his positions that I think he is nervous about keeping his "truths" straight. I think the bullying part comes from that. I just hope Obama stops being such a gentleman and reaches for the throat next time.

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    Ruby Jean Richert 

    6 years ago from Southern Illinois

    I echo Anne Pettit's comment. President Obama is not a bully. He has too much dignity to stoop that low. I do think he was completely surprised at how Mitt lied so masterfully. ..Great topic..Well written..

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    Anne Pettit 

    6 years ago from North Carolina

    I completely trust and respect President Barack Obama, and I have the extreme opposite feelings toward Mitt Romney.

    I believe Obama has a much deeper sense of certain risks and strengths that I cannot know because I do not have the same experiences. I am confident that Obama's behavior was based on his good intsincts and judgement in a difficult situation in a public arena.

    I have not waivered in my belief that Barack Obama cares about our country more than his re-election, and he has the intellect and personal experience to lead us through the rest of this difficult time better than any other. This less than stellar debate performance is insignificant.

    Thank-you for a very thoughtful and timely hub.

  • junko profile imageAUTHOR

    junko 

    6 years ago

    Irc7815, yes the bully in Romney surely did surface in that debate. He turned inside out and exposed himself. Thanks for stopping by and pointing that out.

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    Michele, the way you seen it is the way it happened. I hope the President just let Romney think he was on fire and just refused to spit on him in Denver. Romney said too much.

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    Patriette, Thanks for stopping by and talking. I don't think the president's record is as bad as it could or should be considering the Republican-teaparty's attempts to make him a one term President. On a lighter note, where is feenix?

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    Prakash, I agree the President appeared, not ready for prime time. I think the president's performance will be greater later. Thanks for commenting

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    Linda Crist 

    6 years ago from Central Virginia

    I do think Obama wasn't 100% last night but Romney did what Romney is good at - being a bully.

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    Michele Travis 

    6 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

    I agree, the bad thing is that most people think Romney did a 'good job' All he really did was keep lying about what he was going to do as President. He tells people what he is going to do, but not HOW he is going to do it.

    Obama did not do a very good job this time, but it makes me wonder if something else is going on. I hope not, just wondering.

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    Patriette 

    6 years ago from Las Vegas, NV

    I wanted to see Obama step up and eleoquently defend his record extemporaneously (off TelePrompter) as Romney did, but he did not because he could not... not this disaster of a record.

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    Prakash Dighe 

    6 years ago from Dallas, Texas, USA

    My reaction was that Romney did not come up with anything new or specific, but he remained focused on hammering Obama on jobs and the economy, and Obama allowed him to get away with it, by not being aggressive enough. Jim could have done a better job, but it was for the two candidates to defend their positions. Obama, for some reason did not attack Romney on many of his vulnerabilities, and thus allowed Romney to get the upper hand. Besides, Obama should know that the closing statement is what the viewers remember the most, and Obama's statement was sub par, while Romney did a better job. Thus Obama's performance was below expectation, while Romney performed better than expected. Obama is capable of pulling back on lost ground, but right now, the Republican camp is on a high.

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    junko 

    6 years ago

    Yes, I saw Obama ask for 5 seconds more. Thanks for the disagreement and follow.

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    Josh 

    6 years ago from Boston

    i diagree with your view on jim. I believe it is the other way around. Jim would cut off Romney right away, but would clearly allow the president to ramble on for way more then his allotted time. You did see the part where obama chewed out Jim for "interrupting" him when his time was clearly up.

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