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Homosexuality, The Bible, and The Law.

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The Bible and The Law

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Homosexuality, the bible, and the law

In respect to homosexuality, the bible, and the law; mankind must grow up and face reality instead of trying to continue to exist in a fantasy world created by ignorance and superstition.

We must get Religion out of politics once and for all.

This government is NOT a theocracy and pray to God it will never become one. Nor was it intended to mandate morality.

Man made laws should respect all members of society - not just being made to pacify the religious zealots.

Separation of church and state should be strictly adhered to in all aspects.

Living in sin -

what does that even mean?

After recently reading another rant on hub pages about homosexuality being a sin - per the bible - it inspired this rebuttal to that unfounded hatred, and ignorant misinformation.

It goes on and on about how Jesus and God hate homosexuals.

They must have a more direct line to the Creator than others do; and certainly a different version of the bible that most of us grew up with.

We need to get real! Get a life! But most of all get an education.

This lie is so ingrained in our society it is pathetic, to say the least.

Homosexuality throughout history

Homosexuality has never been recorded as a sin in any ancient history literature. It has always been an accepted way of life, and in some instances it is revered as a gift from the gods.

It being a sin is a manifestation only in the minds of man and only in the past 1400 years.

In the 3rd and 4th centuries when the catholic church was brutally trying to murder all its competition and building its murderous armies, it made a declaration that same sex activity must cease in order to procreate and build its armies. (Sounds eerily similar to the modern day radical Islam group known as ISIS?)

When the people refused to adhere to this edict, the church then wrote it into its moral laws. When the armies were not growing fast enough the church took it upon itself to declare it (same sex relationships) a "sin against God" and wrote it into their ever changing bibles.

Did you know this was in the bible? part 1

Did you know this was in the bible? part 2

Spreading hate through the years

This propaganda of hatred was thus instilled into a (catholic) society bent on killing all that stood in their way toward their quest for total religious dominance and control.

With the constant pervasive brain washing indoctrination technique being used on the children, generation after generation, those children's children became the ignorant (misinformed) adults of today.

We must learn to get our heads out of the sand, or out of our butts, and use some of that "limited" intelligence that God gave us that was not meant to be wasted on making moral judgements against others.

Homosexuality, or any other man made 'sins' against 'morality' are not the words of our Creator - they are the words of man in their infinite quest to control.

So, please stop quoting from a book made "holy" by decree of the state owned churches of the past that assembled it.

The only inspiration and aspiration in the compiling of the concoctions of this "holy book" was to entrench the fear and guilt into the minds of the people, with threats of a vindictive God's eternal punishment if they did not comply, or adhere, to their laws.

It cannot be made any more simple than that.

Fractured fairy tales -

(twisting history for power and control)

Read our history of the 'real' world not the historically twisted version penned by politicians, or religious zealots, with an agenda of control.

We have been duped by cunning and self serving people (most politicians and pastors) for far too long. It is time to stop, get real, get a grip, and get a life; but most of all get an education.

Read my lips {hubs}. They are fact based and tell it like it is. The Creator is REAL. The Bible is not.

We have an entire world population being held captive based on fairy tales from the past.

We have become so complacent in our fear that we have given up our most precious God given attributes - the ability to think, reason, and reach logical conclusions for ourselves.

We have lost the ability to learn for the betterment of man, both in a beneficial way for mankind itself and our own spiritual happiness and growth in compliance with the Creator - NOT with those who exploit our very innocence and naivety that we are all born with.

We have been conditioned from birth to put our faith in the words of our religious leaders who themselves, 'know not what they are doing'; to the detriment of mankind.

Today's laws reflect the ignorance of the past when those in power gave themselves the authority of our Creator, to speak for him/her and to mandate morality based on a fairy tale book and their own personal beliefs that were in turn no more than an indoctrinated processed version of the truth, by the generation before them.

We must break this cycle of self destruction of the world or we will surely destroy ourselves in the innocuous quest to appease a falsely dubbed 'wrathful' god of mankind's vivid imagination.

The true Creator(s) do not indulge or wallow in such pettiness.

We must learn to accept the future with positive anticipation, verve, and gusto, and let go of the errors of the past.

Those of us that have grown and developed beyond the need of control by fear and guilt are getting mighty tired of the biblical psycho babble being so tortuously lambasted on our psyches on a daily basis.

{As a side note: if the only people getting into heaven are the self righteous 'Christians' spreading their vicious hatred today, most sane people would surely opt for the alternative.}

by: d. william 03/19/11

Childhood brainwashing

Frightening Indoctrination of children to Religions Carp. This is the Christian equivalent to Mormon, Jewish, Muslim and all other sects.

Indoctrination process at its best - or worst.

Dispelling the myths and stopping hatred and discrimination

© 2011 d.william


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    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Different Yet Equal:

      As i state to the commenter above: I do not care what anyone else believes, but i do disagree with those who condemn others without just cause. Quoting from your bibles is not just cause, and it will never be adequate to justify such hatred and bigotry.

      Once you take the time to enlighten yourself with the origins of the bible and other "holy" books you might begin to understand how and why these awful texts became entrenched in our society. They are blasphemous at best.

      Although i do realize that among those who choose to follow their faith blindly, and illogically, because of early childhood brainwashing, there are many decent, tolerant and loving folks that believe as i do that we have no right to judge others. That is God's duty, if you subscribe to that theory.

      But when you see the news about all the hatred, intolerance, and violence against the gay population based on religious beliefs, it sickens me often to the point of nausea. How grown adults can live in a fairy tale world, spout their devotion to God, harm others on a daily basis, then turn around and say they will be "saved" because they are christians (or what ever religion they subscribe to), is beyond justification and beyond acceptance in a society that supposedly touts equality for everyone, when that statement is nothing but an oxymoron.

      You might also want to watch the video i suggested there, it will help you understand that your beliefs are not those of all others, and you have no right judging. I can point out that fact, fight for the underdog, without hating those who inflict pain and suffering on others. Actually, i have more pity, than disdain, for those religious zealots who know not what they do, and don't particularly care for anything but their own beliefs. I guess the old saying: misery loves company - is true after all.

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      You are a bit off base here. The comments that were removed were done so by hub pages not me. I don't usually remove or deny ANY comments on my articles. I was not sad that they were removed, as they were quite vicious in nature, and that is not what commenting is all about.

      One can have a civilized debate, or simply deny, criticize, yell their disagreements, pass judgments on others, call names and make comments without justification.

      In the case of my comment that i would not allow this person to post any more comments on my pages, is not censorship, it is common decency and concern for others who read these comments to not be subjected to such idiocy, bigotry, hatred, etc..., when they are totally out of context with the article itself.

      But i do have to admit that i do make judgments against people who are deliberately ignorant because they choose to be. Ignorance is often bliss for those who think they are above common decency, and that they are always right based on flawed religious teachings.

      I do not try to change anyone's belief system, but to judge others based on their religious beliefs is beyond my comprehension when i try to justify that bigotry based on religions that only teach hatred and intolerance. So, believe what you will, i will never try to change your beliefs, but when anyone condemns me for my points of view they are doing exactly the same thing, but without reason or common sense.

      Here is a video that might clarify things for you even more:

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      Different Yet Equal 

      7 years ago

      You say in your profile you "try to combat discrimination in all of its forms" yet you discriminate against all who subscribe to religion as "ignorant haters and bigots." Is that not discrimination in and of itself? You say "don't judge" and your judgement of me is that I "know nothing of creation" that I am "ignorant" that I am "closed minded" and "harmful to society." You are doing the very thing you profess to be against. TRUE Christians, the ones who actually FOLLOW Christ's teachings don't hate anyone...and we don't call others with opinions different than our own "ignorant" and "harmful to society." Please, don't "label" us, and we won't "label" you. I stand before God with a clear conscience for the beliefs I hold. If you can say the same, you are my brother. Your choices may not be right for me, mine may not be right for you, but do either set of standards make either of us better than the other? That is ONLY for God to judge. It saddens me that people with beliefs other than my own have such a negative feeling toward the religion I hold dear because of the hatred that is shown from Christians who place themselves in the position of God by judging. And doing it in such a way as to make homosexuals, etc. feel they are not loved by the God we serve. Not all Christians are filled with the hatred you seem to have experienced. As a Christian, I ask God, the God who gave everything to reconcile EVERYONE to Himself, to forgive those who have so grossly misrepresented Him.

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      7 years ago

      So, DW, it's wrong for THEM to not allow your post but it's okay for YOU to not allow OpinionDuck's post. Yea, I see the "equal rights" in that...

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thank you so much for reading and commenting. I am thrilled to have a new follower. I will get to read yours eventually. I am so far behind in responding to comments and reading i am getting cramps in my (you know what) from sitting in front of this computer for such long periods at a time.

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      7 years ago

      What an amazing hub! I am really tired of the religious conservatives running around acting like fools. Instead of looking at poverty, or the destruction of the planet, they are more worried about if two men are sleeping together.

      I love this quote from your hub, "biblical psycho babble being so torturously bombasted on our psyches on a daily basis." I am sharing this and you have a new follower!

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thanks for commenting. Frankly i was surprised when i found the comments altered with. I was updating my hubs (adding summaries to them) when i discovered this. Makes one wonder what other 'alterations' are made to our articles that we are unaware of. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to monitor all your hubs when you have the amount i do, or more.

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      Ruby Jean Richert 

      7 years ago from Southern Illinois

      I am happy to learn that you will deny this person's hate/rage on your Hubs. There must be something terribly wrong with a person whose mind lingers on the actions he speaks of. Take care.....God Bless

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      To readers of this hub: Just an added notation here. My comments to the last commenter above were taken off this page by the hub page patrol (censures) but apparently they did agree with the last entrant, as they chose to leave this one on. there is no amount of censorship that will alter the facts in favor of 'biblical spewing opinions". Just because one disagrees with nature does not mean that they are capable of judging nature itself. Calling me gay and making snide remarks about my knowledge of a..holes because i do not support someone else's view is about the lowest form of ignorance that anyone can show on this site. So i will reluctantly deny any more of this hubbers comments the privilege of appearing on my comment sections.

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      8 years ago

      D W

      You apparently know a lot about assholes, which must be required knowledge for homosexuals. Looking for love in all the wrong places.

      When was the last baby born from Anal Intercourse?

      Homosexuals don't propogate and carry on life. Unfortunately, they get help from bisexuals who continue the gene pool for homosexuality.

      As for equal rights, what about pedophiles, multiple spouses and othe deviant bahaviour. What about people that don't care about incest and want to have sex within their family, or those that think puberty is the age for sex and marriage, and what about people that want to have sex with animals, don't they have the same equal rights as homosexuals.

      What is the purpose of homosexuals? Do you think that a penis is a colon dipstick, and that is important why?

      Here is a question that all women should ponder.


      Why does the bible and God only have Men in high places, as well as deities, angels, and spirits?

      Women have been treated as chattel, and to bear children.

      Even in Genesis, Eve was not created from scratch as was Adam.

      Even the Apostles were Men.

      Only in the last fifty years have women come into their own light, but for the thousands of years before that they were barely human. Sure there were exceptions as in Queens, but they were only important when the KING died,or to bear the next King.

      Think about all the stories in the bibles and look at the part of the women in it, compared to that of the men.

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      The problem with opinions is that they are all like assholes. Everyone has one and most of them stink.

      You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, when you look at the genetic part of the equation, then opinions are no longer warranted. And of course religious opinions are the stinkiest of all the holies. You can liken gay rights to smoker's rights all you want, but that does not change the fact that under our constitution, all men are created equal, and entitled to the pursuit of happiness, etc.. If you liked cats, and i like dogs, and your religion deems liking dogs unacceptable, does this make sense to pass a law taking the right to like dogs away from us?

      This is really a stupid argument no matter how you look at this subject. All opinions are based on a crass obsolete book of "fairy" tales (no pun intended).

      Equal rights, are equal right. You cannot mandate morality if that is your intent. Get the dam church out of government and we would not be even having this ludicrous discussion.

      I have added another link above entitled "are people born gay?". Read it. It is self explanatory, no amount of conjecture can change those facts either.

      It is time to put this discussion to rest, and give everyone the same inalienable rights.

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      8 years ago

      I have a hub God, Creator and Other Forces on that subject.

      Your Creator and those from the Bible have created a very imperfect world and universe.

      On the subject of gays, I just don't know what is the purpose of gays, if it weren't for bisexuals the homosexuals would have died off.

      That is if we support the genetic theory of homosexuality. If it is just a sexual preference than that is another issue.

      In either case, don't rock the rest of the world to put a square peg in a round hole. No pun intended, or accepted.

      To me gay rights are like smoker's rights they are not real, yet their supporters have a lot of money and political power to make us believe that they are real rights.

      If smokers want to smoke and gays want to gay then don't force the rest of us to involuntarily participate.

      my opinion..

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      8 years ago

      And for some more levity (hopefully) by coincidence, here's the hub I posted today which has a familiar theme:

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thanks. Nice to have a little lightheardedness on occassion. Always a pleasure hearing from you. dw

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      8 years ago

      Wow, so many people who "know" so much. I guess I'm one of the few out there who enjoy asking the questions and knowing there isn't always an answer to everything. I don't know how much good and how much harm the bible has done(just like I don't know how much good or harm Snookie from Jersey Shore's book has done) but for whatever it's worth d. william, I like your Creator better too! So there!

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Hi. thanks for reading and commenting. I am somewhat surprised though, at your comments that 'God disapproves of homosexuals'. Where did you get this information? I know of no books, or verses spoken by God to man.

      Those writings that profess to be manifestations from God, are merely the conjectures, or beliefs of the individuals who wrote them. To say they were inspired by God, again is not based on reality. Any written word can be attributed to the inspiration given to each and every one of us to speak, or write, in an informed, even a half way intelligent manner, by our Creator.

      Our intelligence is not to be put on a back burner because some limiting religion tells us it is wrong to think for ourselves. Of course they want you to think so, so they can control your life and beliefs.

      I do not subscribe to that subjugation stuff. We are free thinkers, as we are meant to be.

      As far as your comments about 'behaviors counter productive to the concept of creation', you again are limiting yourself to the teachings of an old text that itself was tainted by bias, with the intent of instilling fear and guilt into its readers as the major form of control over them.

      You are denegating the intelligence of our benevolent Creator. Would one not assume that when mankind has brought itself to the verge of destruction due to unchecked population growth, that any Creator with a lick of sense would prefer to alter the genetics of mankind to introduce homesexuality as a cure, to curb this threat? Or would you rather believe that your Creator is aggressive and mean enough to prefer we kill each other off in order to stop the pervasiveness of unchecked procreation? You are putting way too much emphasis on what you believe should be, what you believe god thinks or wants, or what you think God likes or dislikes, rather than what really is. Objection to the behaviours and attitudes of others is a manifestation of man. Judgement for anyone's anything, is not in the realm of humanity. Judgement is reserved for the Creator. Not for men to pass over each other. It is totally illogical to think that an intelligent Creator would 'create' something that he dislikes, or intends to be the object of hatred or ridicule. Apparantly i have a different Creator that most. And i must add, that i like mine better than yours.

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Hello again. Thanks for reading and commenting.

      If you have a set, or have access to a set, of encycolpedias look up Christianity, the origin of. Then look up Constantine the Great. And cross reference with the history of the Catholic church.

      I assume that the encyclopedia is authentic enough in its entries to suffice to allay your concerns about the truth of my writings.

      I do not know who Tony Busby is, nor do i much care if anyone is writing from sheer conjecture, as opposed to using facts.

      Please feel free to let me know if you find other historical facts that dispute mine. I would be happy to hear them.

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      8 years ago from Atlanta

      I respectfully disagree with much of what you have in this hub; however, you have hit on some very important facts. I do not believe that God hates anyone, but there are certain behaviors that are counter productive to the concept of creation. To say that homosexuality is OK goes against the very nature of attraction, which has only one purpose: to make babies. Now we recognize the fact that attraction keeps a couple together to raise the children. Homosexuality has no part in that process.

      Having said that, people have a right to choose how to live. Christians and Muslims hate homosexuals. God does not. I believe that God prefers that we form a relationship with the opposite sex, and stay together for life. Divorce and remarriage is just as much to be avoided as homosexuality. So that fact alone makes most Christians hypocrites. How many self-proclaimed Christians have remarried or sit silent while it happens in their own church? Hypocrites are also sinners and need to repent.

      Thanks for a good hub with a very controversial topic.

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      8 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

      You Wrote

      "The original bible was compiled around 300 A.D. The passages regarding homosexuality were added in the 1600's."

      I would LOVE to see your sources for these statements. If they come from the work of Tony Busby then I have a few reservations as my memory is telling me that in one article he used biblical material to prove Jesus and Judas were twins while in another he claimed Constantine invented the bible, with much material being made up by Origen. This raises red lights in my mind. There are also the Gnostic gospels to consider and I believe there are some pre 300AD maunscripts with parts of gospels.

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thanks. Yes, sad, but also sickening. It isn't often when you get to see the beginnings of radical indoctrination and brain washing with your own eyes. This child will grow up to be a hater and a bigot as well. This should be a punishable crime against humanity. And they call it religion and faith. What hypocrites.

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      Ruby Jean Richert 

      8 years ago from Southern Illinois

      I came back to watch the video of the little preacher boy, how very sad.

    • d.william profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thank you to another enlightened soul.

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      8 years ago from England

      The church is responsible for more evil than the people it pretends to protect.

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      that certainly would be a major step in the right direction.

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      Ruby Jean Richert 

      8 years ago from Southern Illinois

      Well how about that, sometimes good outweighs the bad. Maybe HP had them removed. I hope so.


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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      You can rant in you comments any time you want. Your comments and sentiments will always be welcomed. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with me and those others who will read them.

      And incidentally, that site i referred you to of the radical ramblings of a religious zealot has been removed. I guess they did not like my comments.

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      Ruby Jean Richert 

      8 years ago from Southern Illinois

      I understand every word you say. God is love, let me repeat that, God is love. We are all one. We can either choose to do and think evil or do good and think good. Homosexuality is in my family. He was born that way. He had a heart as pure as gold. He loved everyone and was treated like an outcast by some and died alone because he was unwelcome. Someday we will all see and we all will have to stand before our Creator and explain any hate. Why don't we let God judge right and wrong instead of a preacher spewing out hate against our Brothers and Sisters. And no. I am not Gay, just full of hurt for the way some are treated. Thank you for this hub. I didn't intend to rant, but................

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Hey, thanks for stopping by and reading. and your two pennies are worth a million bucks to me.

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south Paxton.

      You are again, 100% correct in you assessment of the bible. The only way that minds will be changed is for the christian and/or other religious bigots' ("masters of the universe of the nit wits" - the pope, and pastors, etc.) state the facts for once in their lying lives.

      People who have children born gay, or have relatives and friends that are gay, or are those who are born gay, are the only ones to see the correctness of compassion, acceptance, and know that God (our god, at least) does not make mistakes. We are all put on this earth for a reason. It may be as simple as homosexuals being born as a way for mother nature (god) to protect this beautiful planet against the devastations of over population.

      Simple concept, but too complicated for the simple minded to grasp.

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      Jamie Brock 

      8 years ago from Texas

      We are ALL God's children.. I think we are ALL precious in his sight... Just my two pennies :)

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thank you so much for stopping by as well.

      A. those bible passages regarding homosexuality were not in any original texts written about the life and times of Jesus. They were added to the bible after it was compiled by Constantine the Great (a politician) and his assistants.

      The original bible was compiled around 300 A.D. The passages regarding homosexuality were added in the 1600's.

      After its compilation it was the state, and its homemade religion (catholic) that declared this a "holy book", and made it a sin to repudiate any of its contents. People are so stupid to believe any of this carp (or crap, if you prefer)

      B. the original meaning of the word fornication meant prostitution. It was later changed to mean any sexual activity. Those crazies that wrote these things into the bible were either sexual perverts themself, in denial, or hiding it by pointing the finger at others first, or they were just too dam ugly to get any of the action they saw others enjoying.

      (Just MY humble opinions) L.O.L.

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I appreciate your comments

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      Fay Paxton 

      8 years ago

      As one who doesn't believe the Bible is the word of God, at least not in the literal sense, but interpretations by man, I'm in agreement with a great deal of what you say. If, I as believe God is love, it is real simple...anything that is not borne out of love is not of God. If God created all things, he created homosexuals too. I am the mother of a gay child, who I was pretty certain was gay when she was maybe three. She is the most loving, giving person I know.

      Excellent hub

      voted up/awesome

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      Dim Flaxenwick 

      8 years ago from Great Britain

      Jesus NEVER taught hate, he even said ´love your enemies.

      Though there are passages in the Bible book of Leviticus that say it is wrong for men to lie with men,

      Fornication is considered a sin whether it´s man/woman, Woman /woman or man/man.

      The churches down the ages have perverted so many of God´s original laws. I´d like to see where the bible it

      tells us we need a pope with not only his own enormous Palace but an actual Vatican City and Popey must sit on a throne etc.

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      Blair Rockefeller 

      8 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      In the bible Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. There's nothing about homosexuality in the 10 comandments. In both there is about adultry and divorce. Funny how we excuse our own wrongs. There really is nothing more than love. And judging others is also spoken about. Told not to do it.

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      8 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Well, put on your pants! You got most of it right. I have travelled to the other side twice in this life time, and i learned that, that which is taught, is not always as it was meant to be. Things seldom are as they seem.

      Jesus is (was) a son of God, but so are you. You can embrace the concept of the bible but not the flesh and blood of the man. (of course - assuming that you are not gay) LOL.

      If you study the origin of the bible, you will find that the writings in the bible were merely compilations of works of men (or women) other than those that are given the credit for them (mark, luke, john, etc..). The parts that make up the bible content were hand picked by Constantine the Great, in his effort to create a state religion that would capture and control the people. (Short version of that story). Man's input= 99%, inspiration by God= 1%. Inspirations of a man to capture control over his subjects= 100%.

      We will all meet again on the other side, and laugh about how inane these discussions really are.

      Thanks again for visiting and commenting. Always good to hear your views. dw

      I do not believe that God would make a creation that is displeasing to him. That is incongruous (incompatible) with logic. Every man has a purpose to fulfill in this life time. Who are we to ever judge another man.

      My hub entitled: "Are people born gay?" is scientific fact and unless you believe in the devil throwing a monkey wrench in the wonderous works of the Creator, you reasoning is flawed.

      And interestingly enough women played a major role in the early churches. When men excluded them from the text, and the church, it was the very beginning of the discrimination against women, and it seems the republican party is hell bent on making it permanent.

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      8 years ago from Tucson, Az.


      Gosh man, I agree with you on some things and disagree on others. I have a degree in Divinity and my study is on going. I have come to certain conclusions while, of course, creating more questions. My conclusions didn't become conclusions until I weighed all the information available. What conclusions I've come to are in stone, though few in number. 1. I believe in God the Creator. 2. I believe Jesus is the son of God. 3. I believe that a full relationship with Him will enrich our lives here on earth. 4. I believe that relationship will allow us to live in a very positive but different dimension with Christ after our life here is finished. 5. I believe the Bible is the inspired word of God to the tune of about 92% 6. And this is important .. Bible teaching has been horribly corrupted and perverted for a long, long time. Some of mainstream teaching is a lie and down right disgraceful.

      I don't believe that homosexuality is pleasing to God, but HOLD ON! I don't think it's anymore displeasing to God than a zillion attitudes and thoughts that go through everyone's minds on a daily basis.

      Jesus was very clear. He said the most important thing was to "love your neighbor as you love yourself, and love God with all your heart." He DIDN"T say "love your neighbor if he or she is straight."

      7. I believe that homosexuals will be judged the same

      as hetro sexuals. They will be judged upon the content of their heart and how they measured up to what Christ asked us to be. There will be a lot of gays going to the next level because they love Christ. There will be a lot of straights who don't make it because they say they love Christ, but they don't. If they did, they would love a gay person as they loved themselves.

      While we may disagree on the credibility of Bible, we are in full agreement on what it says, as opposed to what is taught.

      I found this a very well written and useful Hub my friend!



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    Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
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    HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
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    Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
    CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
    Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the or domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
    Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
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    Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
    Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
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    MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
    Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
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    Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
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    Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
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    Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
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