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So who did we have on the "Marmara"?

Updated on July 22, 2010

So who did we have on the "Marmara"?

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This article was originally written in Hebrew by Col. (res.) Moshe Elad, a researcher with the Samuel Neaman Institute for Advanced Studies in Science and Technology at the Technion National Security Studies Western Galilee College

משה אלעד  

אז מי היה לנו על ה"מרמרה" ?

Instead of confronting Islamic organizations posing as humanitarian, Europeans prefer others such as Israel to do so.

Already at 1997, French intelligence revealed that the IHH leader, Bulnat Iladrim, the man and the organization behind the "humanitarian flotilla" to Gaza, recruited a multitude of frantic young Muslims to the global jihad organizations, funded them, and so to their training in Muslim countries. Bulnat Iladrim, the man and the organization behind "humanitarian rally" to Gaza.

One of the recruits was Ahmed Rasem, who in late 1999 was to blow up a car with 600 kilograms of explosives at the airport of Los - Angeles. The USA has an open account with Iladrim since the Iraq war in 2002, when he sent mercenaries to Saddam Hussein. Iladrim's organization is called "the organization for humanitarian aid."

The IHH Turkey, the Interpal in Britain, and the “Committee for help and solidarity to Palestine” (CBSP) in France are just three examples of the dangerous phenomenon that get a foothold in the capitals of Europe - their governments are afraid to deal with Hachtabot, the multi arms Islamic octopus, that with money, the threat of terrorism and the carrying out of a radical ideology, gets more and more European not innocent causalities.

The mechanism of this triangle is called in Europe - ironically - "Charity Coalition". In today’s Turkey, the IHH is already "Erdogan's Tanzim." The Turkish Prime Minister shakes Israel’s hand on one hand and uses the IHH as a fist against Israel on the other, all to gain Islamic public sympathy: exactly as Arafat used Mroane Barghouti.

For the time being, Britain and France do not have yet a government "Tanzim". There they are content with silent head nodes, the approval of deals closed between the Islamist "brokers" and the political leadership, allowing dangerous terrorists to operate in the backyard of Sarkozy and David Cameron with no repercussions. Islamic protection leaders promise European leaderships that it’s just "lifting the siege over Gaza.” "Instead of Muslims blowing up here at home," say these Europeans brokers, "Better they erupt in the Middle East, far away." Who cares?

The IHH is a real octopus. The organization has a branch in Gaza, headed by Muhammad Hiyya, a branch in the West Bank headed by Izzat Shahin. Two more Hamas activists, Khatem Zuelahah and Zaher al Abirawi, act as "social coordinators" and make sure that Hamas funds reach Gaza, the Islamic Society in Hebron, and Al-Sharq Atdamon "(solidarity) in Nablus.

Dahlan functionaries informed to the IDF their concerns of Hamas’s rise due to millions of dollars entering Hamas's coffers from the "Charity Coalition." The Coalition also financed families of suicide bombers, two of whom committed suicide attack in Netanya and in Ariel in early March 2002. Dahlan's fear finally materialized.

Most of the 50 organizations of the "Charity Coalition", originated in Europe, and are led by sheikhs and religious extremists. They found a better method than Qassam or Fajer rockets – a flotilla. But the "Marmara" would not embark on its way with the terrorists and their equipment, without the backing and support of the European capitals.

"Lifting the siege" from Gaza may seem a "humanitarian operation" from the.EiffelTower or from the banks of the Thames, Gaza has never seemed more humane. Too bad European capitals have not realized that they and Israel should be on the same side of the fence .... Again and again that European air smells strongly of betrayal.

European leaders ready to sacrifice Israel on radical Islam’s altar, thinking this will save them from destruction inside their country, are in error in assessing the situation. They are afraid to confront the Hachtabot, because any European leader would prefer that the Euro-Intifada would not be during her term in office. Dublin, Oslo and Copenhagen are afraid to confront the Hachtabot but instead, become friends with him and see him as an "octopus of peace." Some European diplomats said "the flotilla of the Marmra is their September 11." "No sir", we should tell them, "September 11 is yet to come."

Col. (res.) Moshe Elad, a researcher at the Samuel Neaman Institute for Advanced Studies in Science and Technology at the Technion National Security Studies Western Galilee College

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      ronbarak 7 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      The BBC's Panorama have a show on the Mavi Marmara incedent:

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      ronbarak 7 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      IHH Turkey Mavi Marmara Report.

      This report was released by the Turkish IHH.

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      Ron Barak 7 years ago

      Turkish 'peace activists' visit Jihad gunmen

      By Ali Waked

      On backdrop of strained relations between Israel and Turkey, Islamic Jihad website displays photos of recent flotilla's Turkish passengers visiting Gaza and trying on organization's uniform. 'All Turkish people pray for your victory,' one of guests says

      The Viva Palestina 5 ship carrying "peace activists," which docked at the al-Arish port recently, brought along not only humanitarian aid to the residents of Gaza, but also enthusiastic Turks who took advantage of the opportunity to visit local Islamic Jihad members.

      In pictures obtained by Ynet, the Turks are seen holding weapons and rocket launchers. While their prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan continues to blast Israel and demand an apology for "state terrorism," two of the guests put on the uniform of the al-Quds Brigades, the Islamic Jihad's military wing.

      The pictures from the Turkish delegation's visit were put on the al-Quds Brigades website as part of the coverage of their visit. The guests' face was blurred, but shortly afterwards the photos were removed from the site, most likely for fear that the Turks would be hurt.

      Turkish activist holds weapon alongside Jihad gunmen

      During their visit to Gaza, the Turkish delegation members visited several Islamic Jihad posts. One of the guests was quoted as telling the group's gunmen that they are "a source of pride for all decent people in the Arab and Muslim world." He defined them as "the forefront of the struggle against the Zionists."

      The Turkish guests praised the Palestinian activists,

      saying, "I am proud to be here with you, who have sacrificed so much for the sake of the Muslim nation. All of the Turkish people, as well as the Arabs and all Muslims, pray for your victory, support you and strengthen you."

      Turkish guests visit Jihad post in Strip

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      ronbarak 7 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      Thanks for your kind words ReuVera.

      Nice site you have at

      And yes, the stage should not be left only to one side, even if trying to tell the truth feels like battling windmills.



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      ReuVera 7 years ago from USA

      Shalom! I am glad that I found you here. Please, keep telling people the truth. I am doing it here too and I see that more and more people open their minds for real truth. At the same time there are still so many anti-Semites who try to cover their true antisemitism by phony slogans.

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      Full text of

      Support Israel: if it goes down, we all go down

      José María Aznar

      Last updated June 17 2010 12:01AM

      Anger over Gaza is a distraction. We cannot forget that Israel is the West’s best ally in a turbulent region

      For far too long now it has been unfashionable in Europe to speak up for Israel. In the wake of the recent incident on board a ship full of anti-Israeli activists in the Mediterranean, it is hard to think of a more unpopular cause to champion.

      In an ideal world, the assault by Israeli commandos on the Mavi Marmara would not have ended up with nine dead and a score wounded. In an ideal world, the soldiers would have been peacefully welcomed on to the ship. In an ideal world, no state, let alone a recent ally of Israel such as Turkey, would have sponsored and organised a flotilla whose sole purpose was to create an impossible situation for Israel: making it choose between giving up its security policy and the naval blockade, or risking the wrath of the world.

      In our dealings with Israel, we must blow away the red mists of anger that too often cloud our judgment. A reasonable and balanced approach should encapsulate the following realities: first, the state of Israel was created by a decision of the UN. Its legitimacy, therefore, should not be in question. Israel is a nation with deeply rooted democratic institutions. It is a dynamic and open society that has repeatedly excelled in culture, science and technology.

      Second, owing to its roots, history, and values, Israel is a fully fledged Western nation. Indeed, it is a normal Western nation, but one confronted by abnormal circumstances.

      Uniquely in the West, it is the only democracy whose very existence has been questioned since its inception. In the first instance, it was attacked by its neighbours using the conventional weapons of war. Then it faced terrorism culminating in wave after wave of suicide attacks. Now, at the behest of radical Islamists and their sympathisers, it faces a campaign of delegitimisation through international law and diplomacy.

      Sixty-two years after its creation, Israel is still fighting for its very survival. Punished with missiles raining from north and south, threatened with destruction by an Iran aiming to acquire nuclear weapons and pressed upon by friend and foe, Israel, it seems, is never to have a moment’s peace.

      For years, the focus of Western attention has understandably been on the peace process between Israelis and Palestinians. But if Israel is in danger today and the whole region is slipping towards a worryingly problematic future, it is not due to the lack of understanding between the parties on how to solve this conflict. The parameters of any prospective peace agreement are clear, however difficult it may seem for the two sides to make the final push for a settlement.

      The real threats to regional stability, however, are to be found in the rise of a radical Islamism which sees Israel’s destruction as the fulfilment of its religious destiny and, simultaneously in the case of Iran, as an expression of its ambitions for regional hegemony. Both phenomena are threats that affect not only Israel, but also the wider West and the world at large.

      The core of the problem lies in the ambiguous and often erroneous manner in which too many Western countries are now reacting to this situation. It is easy to blame Israel for all the evils in the Middle East. Some even act and talk as if a new understanding with the Muslim world could be achieved if only we were prepared to sacrifice the Jewish state on the altar. This would be folly.

      Israel is our first line of defence in a turbulent region that is constantly at risk of descending into chaos; a region vital to our energy security owing to our overdependence on Middle Eastern oil; a region that forms the front line in the fight against extremism. If Israel goes down, we all go down.

      To defend Israel’s right to exist in peace, within secure borders, requires a degree of moral and strategic clarity that too often seems to have disappeared in Europe. The United States shows worrying signs of heading in the same direction.

      The West is going through a period of confusion over the shape of the world’s future. To a great extent, this confusion is caused by a kind of masochistic self-doubt over our own identity; by the rule of political correctness; by a multiculturalism that forces us to our knees before others; and by a secularism which, irony of ironies, blinds us even when we are confronted by jihadis promoting the most fanatical incarnation of their faith. To abandon Israel to its fate, at this moment of all moments, would merely serve to illustrate how far we have sunk and how inexorable our decline now appears.

      This cannot be allowed to happen. Motivated by the need to rebuild our own Western values, expressing deep concern about the wave of aggression against Israel, and mindful that Israel’s strength is our strength and Israel’s weakness is our weakness, I have decided to promote a new Friends of Israel initiative with the help of some prominent people, including David Trimble, Andrew Roberts, John Bolton, Alejandro Toledo (the former President of Peru), Marcello Pera (philosopher and former President of the Italian Senate), Fiamma Nirenstein (the Italian author and politician), the financier Robert Agostinelli and the Catholic intellectual George Weigel.

      It is not our intention to defend any specific policy or any particular Israeli government. The sponsors of this initiative are certain to disagree at times with decisions taken by Jerusalem. We are democrats, and we believe in diversity.

      What binds us, however, is our unyielding support for Israel’s right to exist and to defend itself. For Western countries to side with those who question Israel’s legitimacy, for them to play games in international bodies with Israel’s vital security issues, for them to appease those who oppose Western values rather than robustly to stand up in defence of those values, is not only a grave moral mistake, but a strategic error of the first magnitude.

      Israel is a fundamental part of the West. The West is what it is thanks to its Judeo-Christian roots. If the Jewish element of those roots is upturned and Israel is lost, then we are lost too. Whether we like it or not, our fate is inextricably intertwined.

      José María Aznar was Prime Minister of Spain, 1996-2004

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      Read José María Aznar's article "Support Israel: if it goes down, we all go down" in The Times (Published: 17 June 2010 in Columnists Opinion):

      (José María Aznar was Prime Minister of Spain, 1996-2004)

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      Interesting statistics, comparing the fatalities since 1950 in the Arab-Israeli conflict and in other conflicts:

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      An interesting interview on the BBC:

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      Oh, I misunderstood you premierkj.

      BTW, Fox News had a coverage on this issue: it's a bit disorgenised, but it may shed more light on some points:

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      premierkj 8 years ago from Republic of Ireland

      I'm not saying Israel should align with anyone else, the way things are they are lucky to still have the US. I meant that America has great influence on the rest of the world so who America are friends with will always come under the microscope, and will always be judged by higher standards.

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      Flotilla Rioters Prepare Rods, Slingshots, Broken Bottles and Metal Objects to Attack IDF Soldiers:

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      ronbarak 8 years ago from Haifa, Israel

      Hi premierkj,

      I don't want to take credit that isn't warranted: I only _translated_ the article to English.

      The original (in Hebrew) is at,7340,L-3898445,00...

      This original article was written by Col. (res.) Moshe Elad, a researcher at the Samuel Neaman Institute for Advanced Studies in Science and Technology at the Technion National Security Studies Western Galilee College.

      As for Israel allegiance with the USA, whom would you suggest Israel should align with instead ?

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      premierkj 8 years ago from Republic of Ireland

      The main reason Israel comes under so much pressure from international media is due to its allegiance with the US. Because Israel is 'friends' with the west, for some reason they are obliged to deal with these terrorists in a humanitarian way. I agree with your sentiment that Israel is the scapegoat for the west.


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