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The graphic displayed here was made by an old friend of mine who has a background in treating mental disorders. Having a narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disease which often requires treatment. I don't profess to be a mental health expert but I will profess to reading and researching a lot, especially when I am about to write something. The man who bestowed this graphic on me told me at the time to make the call on the subject pictured based upon his having at least five (5) of the personality traits listed. Obama had just recently entered office so I wanted to take the time to observe him closely, which I have done.
Early on, Dr. Charles Krauthammer stated that Obama suffers from this mental disorder. What does Charles know? He just happens to be a psychiatrist in case you missed his medical credentials. He's the one who advised that you are best served by watching what Obama does and not what he says. That advice has proven to be sound advice as I have watched closely. I have listened to what he says now and also on the campaign trail. I then compare that to what he does. Too many times those two things are diametrically opposed to each other.
Here's how Merriam-Webster defines this affliction: a personality disorder characterized especially by an exaggerated sense of self-importance, persistent need for admiration, lack of empathy for others, excessive pride in achievements, and snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. That's close to the lead on the graph above. Then that definition is followed by 9 bullets to help any reader hone in on the subject at hand, in this case it is Barack H. Obama. Along the path of my examination I read his books. If you haven't then you should. I suggest that you obtain them from the public library rather than buy them.
My intent here isn't to fill your head with medical jargon but rather to identify the symptoms of this disease. There are many figures in history that have suffered from this ailment. I won't compare Obama to them as people will claim I am being hateful. That is not my intent here. I have done my analysis of Obama in relation to the bullets and have come up with a minimum of five of the nine, both by watching what he says and by what he does. The purpose of my putting this out here is to 1) educate people who need to be educated about someone who is holding the highest office in this nation, 2) make you very aware that this person is suffering from a serious mental disorder that can be destructive in nature, not only to themselves but to all those around them and 3) give readers a chance to exemplify by comment, specific bullets that apply to the present President of the United States.
I, in turn, will try to add any clarity that I find appropriate in view of the fact that I have bothered to read extensively on this subject. I have watched Obama in action, as you may have. I have listened to his rhetoric endlessly because he never misses an opportunity to be in front of a camera or an audience. I have witnessed his flip replies to those who were serious when he obviously wasn't. I have seen him seek adulation from world leaders on the world stage, apologizing when no apology is necessary. I have witnessed his arrogance and the propensity to blame others for his own shortcomings. I have seen him throw former associates, even his own minister, "under the bus" when their usefulness to him has expired. The tick marks can go on as I use the list.
I have expressed to several readers that I was working on this. It didn't take long to write as I am a writer and the visual is an excellent source of knowledge about this subject. I needed to do some more research, thinking and examination as I was connecting all the dots. While one may find it tolerable in the every day, common man on the street, it needs to be looked at very closely when people are in power and want to control all of those around them, including you and me. Look back into history and observe the leaders of the world who were totally absorbed in both themselves and their agenda. Look at the results of the actions of those people. Then ask yourself, "Is that the type of person I want to be leading my nation and making the decisions that will affect countless generations after I am no longer here?" This really isn't about you or me. It is about our heirs and descendents.
That is my concern about what I am witnessing. Then Anthony Weiner came flying over the horizon and without a doubt he is a narcissistic individual. So that made the case for me and it's time that we talk about it. This isn't about Bush, the Koch brothers, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh or anyone else but Obama. You need to please stay on topic if you desire to be heard. That's my primary rule of blogging. If you can't adhere to that simple rule then don't bother to comment.
This is an opportunity to open your mind and take a close look. This is a mental disorder and a rather serious one when placed in the proper perspective of what you expect from a leader. Me? Having led men and women for two decades plus I have encountered it more than once and had to deal with it. In the course of history, the world has had to deal with the people and circumstances of this disorder being manifested in those in power. That needs to be dealt with at this time. Is there an easy answer? There never is...
As Always,
The Frog Prince
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Comments
I have no doubt Obama makes US suffer from a narcissitc personality disorder. I wrote something on this a while back, and Izettl wrote a great piece on this a couple of weeks ago. He is completely detached from what is and isn't appropriate when it comes to speaking OR making decisions. At first I just thought he was an arrogant butt wipe, but it definitly goes much deeper than that.
Voted up and useful.
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jim - What usually brings this on in a person is rooted in early childhood development and how one is raised or not raised. What I find in Obama is probably rooted in his having been abandoned by his mother and step-father at an early age. That's just one theory.
Tell Izetti to stop by take a read and shed some light. She's a sharp lady.
The Frog
Frog: Actually I would give him 7 of the bullets. I agree with Charles, yourself and the rest on this topic. He is without a doubt sick. I also apply the label of being dysfunctional from his family background. I can see many issues relating to be an ACOA or Adult Child of Alcoholism. Combine these two and you have a time bomb. Obama has some serious issues that he needs to take care of. Well done Sir and well written....Up & Awesome
Hey Prince - spot on - I've been saying this for 3 years now. Couple the NPD with his Marxist view of reality and it's not surprising that we have a president who is consciously trying to destroy the country - and unfortunately doing a good job of it along with the progressive pinheads with whom he surrounds himself. Hope we last until November 2012.
Frog - omg! You are so right! Actually he was listed as a well known person with NPD!!
This is excellent Frog - thank you so much for mentioning me:) I can't help but mark it up and everything including funny! Way way up Frog - you nailed him for sure! He's a good preacher isn't he?
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Ken - I've given this a lot of thought and research. After we spoke today I knew it was time to go ahead and get it out of my head and do some serious examining of the issue of a leader who is seriously afflicted with this disorder. Combine that with pathological lying and it goes over the cliff. These type of people actually believe it when they don't tell the truth. They can't deal with the truth so they mask it as being something else.
Ed - I've had this graphic for about that long. It's hard to believe that the things being done are intentional. This is America and it just doesn't happen. But it is.
RHW - I told you that I was working on the subject. Have been for quite some time.
Well, since we have him on the payroll for now, maybe we could get him to knock the crap out of the even bigger bunch of NPD clowns, the Big 5 Banksters.
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Jed - Understand something. They are in his back pocket. This week he had his hand out to many of the people you call Banksters. Check out his major campaign contributors in the 2008 campaign then get back to me.
I wonder if you read this Hub. NPD is an individual personality disorder, not a liberal or conservative group grope.
Excellent job Frog;)
Frog,
I doubt Obama or anyone else had too much of a rougher go of it with their father than me. We're all pulled in a bad direction as a result child hood trama,but a real man fights his inclenations to do wrong, and does the right thing.
I often get critisized for not accepting excuses, but it's difficult for a man who's never made them to accept them. I'm not saying I'm right, it's just how I roll. This is the very first thing incidentally, to turn me off about the subject of this discussion. His freaking whining about Bush made my gums bleed. Then there's the rest of course ..
jim
I think it important to try to qualify this a bit. 0bama is a Muslim, and having been raised as such, he was pampered and coddled continually. Boys in the Muslim religion get "anything" their little hearts desire, are never told no, and are never reprimanded for unacceptable behavior. That combined with the training of an equally 'sick' ideology (sorry cannot qualify it as a religion) makes for some very 'queer ducks': 0bama being just one of them.
It must be noticed that he cannot take any kind of criticism no matter how small. When Netanyahu just recently spanked him publicly in front of the entire nation, 0bama went on a 5 minute rant to his staff, cursing and exclaiming "Never again!"
There is another problem he suffers from, and that is he is an addict. The cameras have, for a long time now, taken their focus off close-ups. You still can notice all the signs, esp. if one is trained in that kind of behavior. Again, all these things are in line with the NPD (Narcissist Personal Disorder).
He also has been flaunting the idea about that he is going to have "home grown" marijuana in the White House garden!
His arrogance where our laws and way of life is structured is a huge teller of the problem as well. He thinks himself so far above the law that he blatantly thwarts it at every opportunity: from the health care bill passage to the number of executive orders, to meeting with and planning with our enemies (The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt), to scolding Congress and insulting the Supreme Court Justices, to issuing an out and out forgery of his birth certificate, to not telling Congress of the war he started against Libya, and will probably do the same thing where dropping bombs on Yemen is concerned.
The man is truly dangerous. Furthermore, once a narcissist experiences the feel of power as 0bama has done in office, he will be hard pressed to ever relinquish it regardless of what steps he has to take to secure it to himself. It is something he cannot give up, despite what he says, and he will engineer whatever he has to in order to stay put. The narcissist in him absolutely demands that.
Lastly, even his physical movements beg to assert his narcissism, from the very proud, very haughty looking down his nose at people, to his refusal, for example, to salute the flag. He owes allegiance to no one and nothing except himself.
Women who have been wives of narcissists (especially Muslim men) have violently and hideously assaulted their wives for no reason whatsoever. In fact, the rape center for women in Nevada have said that the very worst cases of rape they have ever seen come through their facility were done by Muslim men.
Do not be the least bit surprised if you see 0bama in the near future engineer some means to call Martial Law. He cannot and will not give up his position of "kind of America", which is exactly how he views himself.
It is obvious that he has a disorder and is quite pleased with himself. I swear whenever I am able to watch him on TV, I almost get sick. Didn't he once give a speech, and was so pleased with himself that he told Harry Reid, I have a gift Harry?
Good article. I really enjoyed reading it. Voted up.....
Frog, this is a fantastic hub. I agree with Ms. Annette, he will not leave the presidency without an all out war. When he is defeated, it will most likely take assistance from the law to get him out of the White House. I have seen his type before, and they are all the same. This is a serious mental illness and to think he is running our country is frightening. He has to be defeated in 2012 or there will be nothing left of our once great Nation.
You are spot on as usual, frog type humanoid. So I shall sum up my evaluation thusly. Mussolini couldn't get the trains to run on time (contrary to popular myth), and neither can O-man.
Very good Hub, very interesting and I believe you are correct. Scott Voting up and awesome!
So true he is a text book example of narcisistic. His arrogance is undeniablely one of the most annoying traits he carries. A psychiatrist would spend a good deal of time analyzing this guy.
Pam and I had never heard of Barack Hussein Obama until one day early in 2008 when he popped up on the boob tube, chasing Hillary for the nomination. We took one look at him, looked at each other, and went,
"UH-OH-H-H!"
We didn't quite it put it into words that day, didn't say, "Yeah, he's got NPD, all right", but when I later came across the first article suggesting he MIGHT have it, we knew: There was no MIGHT about it.
I agree with Ken Crow about the number of bullets--7--at least. Not all are equally obvious, but hey, that's true about personality traits for any human on the planet.
One of the most dangerous aspects he's shown to date involves the "one-two-three" process he goes through after any huge disappointment. We saw this at the end of 2009 when it looked like Obamacare was dead in the cradle, but the 2010 election results provided the best case example so far:
1. DISAPPOINTMENT DAY: Pout and sulk to the max.
2. REPROGRAMMING WEEKS: Following the "shellacking" at the polls, Obama reprogrammed the election results in his mind to fit his preferred reality.
3. HAMMER DOWN: Once again having utilized a circular mind loop to convince himself the elections meant nothing and he was truly invincible "just like always", he really did take the RINO Republicans to school during the Lame Duck legislative session.
Dangerous, dangerous, NPD dude.
However, the very structure of his damaged psyche keeps me optimistic (rather than deeply concerned) about the possibility of his manufacturing an excuse to declare martial law. Here's my playbook prediction for 2012:
1. No matter what the polls say, no matter who We the People put up against him as a Republican candidate, he will never be able to accept the idea that he could lose in November. Never not ever. Impossible. He is, after all, Rockstar Superman Obamalord, feared and respected throughout the galaxies.
2. Since he knows (in his own mind) that he'll win, he'll see no need to call in the storm troopers, so he won't do that.
3. On election day, when he's beaten, it will be too late to try crushing the peasants through force of arms. Not nearly enough people in these United States of America would accept (or enforce) martial law instituted by a Lame Duck President. Not gonna happen.
4. Instead, he'll go through his usual automatic reprogramming process...and convince himself that (a) being a one term President was meant to be and is (b) actually for the best.
In fact, his subconscious, which happens to know the end is already in sight, is preparing him for that eventuality as we speak. In a recent interview, he admitted there are "probably days" when he wouldn't mind not having to serve a second term.
Voted up & stuff.
Hi FP
As an observer from the other side of the pond he reminds me in so many ways of how Tony Bliar used to present himself at all opportunities, By the way Bliar is used by many now in the UK instead of Blair.
Awsome Hub and aw ra best
Alan
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To ALL readers, first I'd like to introduce you to Ms Annette who is a very good friend of mine from other venues. She is an excellent writer and I'm hoping that she will contribute her wisdom here. You may wish to follow her so she can do likewise.
Annette - I think you covered a lot of ground there and there are nuggets in your comments that people should seriously consider. Liberals will claim he isn't a Muslim, but he in fact was raised as a Muslim. Many liberals it seems have NOT read Obama's books. They are very telling about what lies behind this man and the curtain. Thanks for some very good commentary.
Pat - A newbie leader who would give the Queen of England a player with all his speeches on it should be a flag about this issue and Obama. A bit over the narcissistic edge I'd say.
Old Poolman - Many narcissists self-destruct based upon the severity of the disorder. Hitler is a prime example. I'm not comparing Obama to Hitler so you liberals don't get your panties in a wad. Obama is so self-consumed that I find it amazing that his koolaid crowd doesn't see it. But maybe they do. That's even more worrisome at times. His use of "I" and "Me" in his speeches is another dead give away. Another famous narcissist was Jim Jones and we see where that ultimately ended up. I'm just sayin...
GroundSquirrel - Good analogy but Obama is engineering a good train wreck. He isn't worried about it wrecking on time.
swb - Thanks for taking the time to read this and the comments.
Naomi - Many of the head doctors know that Obama is suffering from this. He indeed is a text book case. I spent a long time reading, researching and observing him. I suggest anyone Google, or use whatever search engine you use, with the key words and begin reading.
Ghost - I came up with 7, possibly 8 myself. I've had the leisure of having that chart for over 2 years now though. I didn't just want to jump out there when I was first alerted to his disorder. A sufficient amount of time has now passed where he not only has NPD but is a classic case. Being a retired military man, I wouldn't advise any President, no matter who, to try to institute martial law to get his/her way. It might have a tendency to back fire since the oath we take is to support and defend the US Constitution. Something to think about.
alansg - I always appreciate an outsider's look in. You're often able to see things that we don't see, or at least from a different perspective.
Great comments so far. Many liberals will say, "The Frog is telling lies about Obama again." No, I'm telling the truth about NPD and giving you the opportunity to connect the dots yourself or ignore them at your own peril.
The Frog
I have suspected this for a long time as he exhibits all the primary characteristics. Your hub is excellent and right on target. Rated awesome.
I forgot about that Frog.
He does think a lot of himself.
ms. Annette. I enjoyed your comments as well and have to agree with everything you said.
Thanks for sharing.
Good Morning, Dear Frog,
Being very familiar with all PD, I commend you for your very accurate portrayal of this and the most unfortunately frightening connection. It is a "call" we should never have to make in a true leader of the people.
I am also glad to meet Ms Annette and think she brought up some sage points; will be heading to her profile to meet her formally!
I appreciate you whether you make me smile or contemplate. Have a good day, mar!
Hi! Good Hub! Thanks for sharing. Angie
Hi Frog. Wow, what a lot of great comments. I read your article last night. Have seen the results these sufferers generate more than a few times. People with this dis-order seem attracted to positions of power like politics for obvious reasons. And you've exposed a damning case for the subject here as belonging in their ranks. Good job as always Sir.
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Alastar - Thanks for the thumbs up. Obama came out of absolutely nowhere. He hid this disorder well, though some of the more obvious signs were there on the campaign trail. If one now, after the passage of time, doesn't make the real connection about the personality we're dealing with something is wrong. People stopping in are definitely making some well thought out comments.
Froggy
Thanks for laying it out so vividly; he truly is Narcissistic evidenced by his behavior from the very beginning. From his Democratic Convention Acceptance speech in Mile High Stadium, Denver Colorado where he appeared on center stage amidst giant Greek Columns as if he were some Greek God descended from Mt. Olympus to his most recent display of grandeur when he took stage and explained how Me, Myself and I single handedly captured Bin Laden his Narcissism is constantly on display for anyone not blinded by Obama Mania!
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partisan patriot - One of the things I discovered in my research has to do with the types of people who are attracted to people with this disorder. I think history validates this also. People with weak minds are susceptible, as are people who want to be enabled. Then there are those who feel society has dealt them a raw deal. Society isn't the dealer in this nation, you are. They feel entitled to more than they are willing to work for. Obama plays those people like a fiddle. There is no doubt in my military mind that Obama knows he suffers from this and uses it as a tool.
Your assessment of Obama is accurate. He exhibits all the characteristics of a narcissist and only a person in deep denial would think otherwise. Sadly, he is not alone. Way too many people in positions of power are carbon copies of Obama and no good ever comes out of their presence whether it be in government or the private sector. Great piece of writing. Up, useful and awesome.
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BPOP - I'm waiting on the deep deniers to show up any minute now. They'll blame Bush for this too. I in turn, will blame them for electing a complete unknown inexperienced and unqualified person with a serious mental disorder to occupy The People's House.
Weiner is seeking treatment for various things. Obama needs to seek treatment for this. Will he? No, he'll continue to drive the national train over the cliff.
Froggie: This is a new acronym and mental disease I have never heard of. Seems to me like if one can create an acronym, one can find or think of some ailment they can attach to it. New ones coming all the time. Maybe we are all mentally or physically ailing and don't know it because the acronym has not yet been thought up.
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Dave - Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) wasn't a diagnosis that was just created in the mental health arena. If you care to, do some research and reading on the subject further. There are some very famous former world leaders in history who suffered from this malady.
The Frog
That doesn't change the fact that it is some mental disorder with a new acronym.
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Dave - The acronym isn't new either. Oh well...
Hey Dave; this is meant in a friendly way: go to your library or Amazon for the reviews and maybe read the new book 'The Psychopath Test.' If you do it'll increase your knowledge on this subject immeasurably. :D
VERY good FP!
From what I know about Personality Disorders (I'm not an M.D. but I've dealt with those who suffer from them - we put them in prison.)
They CANNOT be "cured."
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34th - I'm sure in your career as an attorney you have run across people with NPD more than a few times. Prison might be a good idea if things continue on as they have been. I had GITMO more in mind though. Prison might be too comfy!
The Frog
Hi Frog,
Krauthammer's advice is especially important in the case of Obama, as Obama is clearly aware of his disorder, and he hides it exceptionally well in his public speech, scripted and unscripted.
To be fair, power is intoxicating, and almost all of us get to an extent egotistical if we attain a position of very high power. When this egotism reaches the level that you believe the rules are just for "everybody else," this is a strong sign that narcissism is taking hold.
Essentially, narcissism is an "indispensibility complex." The subject believes he is so beautiful, his perceived inspirational capacity as an icon (object of worship) eliminates all pragmatic needs. The mere fact of existence alone is enough to meet everyone's needs.
A corollary is an extremely exaggerated sense of self worth. If one believes himself to be on object of worship, then you, as worshipper, are inferior. Life becomes a game of tricking yourself that you are better than everyone else.
This dynamic, in part, explains the seemingly inexplicable. Why does Obama wreak havoc on us by pursuing energy dependence, increasing class divides, overspending, etc.? Part of the psychological motive is "taking the path of most resistence." In order to "prove" he's better than others, he must by definition be different. Thus rational thought must be dispensed with, as otherwise he would be "the same" as many others. In order to be different from all, as a precondition of tricking himself into believing he is better than all, his positions must be absolutely unique. This of course necessitates psychotic policies, as no rational policy on anything will be "absolutely unique;" any rational policy will have a cohort of rational adherents.
Such patterns of behavior may be annoying to others at the common level. But for a person in great power, the potential fallout on others is a grave concern. For this, among other reasons, this man must be removed from office as soon as possible.
Stu
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Stu - Excellent look at what drives a narcissistic personality. My intent here was for the users to share and as you can plainly see they have been. Good insight my friend.
As Dale Carnegie taught those that would listen "I and me" are no no's in correspondence and in speach in any quantity.
Tthe focus should be on the "you" and making sure that person or group of people know that anything is about them and what can be done for them.
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alan - AMEN!
Yep but need a computer techie webmaster who would know how to do it, Insoiration is one thing Application is another
Inspiration even
That is UK and US Service Personnell affected by the dubious decisions of their Political Masters
Frog - great commentary. Ms, Annette is right on, I think. Also - he is not going to want to relinquish power - so every little shoe in ???? Scary!
Frog et all,
Shock dissmay- barry's a headcase- what other president created a greek cathedral worthy of the Acropolis,Guess who did at his October 07 Invesco Field Speech. or
Under MY direction... 'I gave the order to capture or kill osama bin laden'
gimme a break with this empty suit...
TH
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or when the #1 ranked world terrorist was popped by Navy seals-
Hi Frog,
Thanks very much. You're getting alot of good responses on this blog.
Stu
Hmmm, about 6 seconds of googling helped me find out that Dr. Charles Krauthammer rebuffed that statement. It started out as an email chain claiming he said Obama has NPD. The good Doctor has since said that he made no such statement and it is simply someone imposing their ideological views using his good name.
The Doctor pointed out that he has a column with the Washington post and is a regular on Fox News. He wrote a series of 5 Columns on Obama with his real opinions in the case that anyone wants to actually read factual info.
It is amazing to me the effort people put into creating false myths about Obama. I think it is really unprecedented. I'm not blaming you frogger, you didn't create that rumor but you certainly helped keep it alive.
There is a lot of Obama policies and views that I don't agree on. However, the NPD story has no merit.
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LRC - Use the graphic above, then use your brain to either check off the symptoms that apply, or do not apply, to your God. See how many dots you connect. Would you care to show us your psychiatric degree and credentials to refute the symptoms? Of course you wouldn't because your mouth often overruns other parts of your anatomy. As usual.
I have happened to have heard it come right from the mouth of the Doctor when he was talking about "watch what he does, not what he says." Strange huh what you pick up by watching actual news, rather than the Cartoon Channel.
E-mail Charles and ask for his diagnosis. See what his reply is. LMAO.
Your Google search should also have yielded numerous mental health sources who confirmed what is written here. Would you care to share those with us?
Or would you care to just keep spouting off? Obama is a classic case son. He needs to seek treatment like Weiner is doing.
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LRC - The NPD story you viewed here has merit. Those are the symptoms, Obama is the actual subject. Use the graphic and begin your work. Then come back and state your opinion why he doesn't have at least 5 of the 9 symptoms. Try that. The 5 out of 9 is the determiner, not you.
LOL Frog. Now I know why I enjoy reading your comments.
LRC
I'm doing a piece for another venue about Obama. It's not the everyday stuff. You'll find it somewhat of a challange my man. Well maybe you won't actually. It sort of depends on how you answer this question. Do you think good charactor is a prerequisite to LONG term success? If you answer no, then our president is doing great in your opinion, and nothing could ever change your mind. If your answer is yes, then I have the burden of making a compeling case for his lack of charactor in order to make my point. Using the standards that our society uses to determine good charactor, I can make an air tight case that he, in fact, has very low charactor. I'll send you a link and you can check it out.
jim
LRC,
Did you read my long post on NPD in this thread? Can't you see that Obama is in love with himself? You're giving him a skate just because you agree with his purported ideology (I say purported because his real ideology is not what he says his ideology is). He's a liar - he's faking mainstream liberalism to hide his true socialist agenda; he wants to be a cult dictator. Sadly, you are one of Lenin's "useful idiots."
Stu
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jim and Stu - It's called deflection. Not sure what number that is with Alinsky. I'll check it out though.
I'll let LRC e-mail Charles and get back with us. He has been on the subject more than once in panels on FOX news. I follow Krautheimer because I trust his opinions, especially when it comes to his chosen field - psychiatry.
After reading some of the comments above, I did a little google searching my self. I found an interesting article written in 2008 regarding Obama and NPD which was prior to his being elected President. I found it interesting reading, and it tends to support the information Frog put in his hub. There are some startling facts about past rulers who suffered from NPD. You might want to take a read on this one and see if it supports your current beliefs.
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Mike - This was detected quite some time ago, commented on by endless mental health experts and all one needs to do is use the check list about the symptoms and compare it to the subject - in this case Barack H. Obama.
As I stated, a mental health expert made the chart for me over 2 years ago, sent it to me and asked me to keep an eye on what his evaluation was. I don't need to make up a damned thing. Facts are facts.
According to some, all this is manufactured? Give it a break.
Frog/Stu/LRC,
lets all be honest-
what politician,is not even a little bit full of himself or herself you have to have a little-Look at me-ism to be the chief. However, what normally goes along with the "look at what I did syndrome" it is the instance of something crazy like humility... humbleness, and modesty Lets see on those three pitches- strike 1-2-3 YER OUT
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How many times can he refer to himself in any speech other than maybe when he said- "Hahaha shovel ready not exactly shovel ready"... trillion dollar bribes to the unions...hahaha oh that potus is a regular Seinfeld oh wait he hates Israel...sorry Frog i went off topic.. i retract that comment.
TH
Dr. Charles Krauthammer did say "the narcissism of the man is rather unbounded" while talking about Obama. I don't think that's any different from him saying that Obama suffers from NPD. I actually think that qualifying it with "unbounded" is even worse. It's on video... you'll find it at 1:35.
Froggy, This was so evident to me as he was running for the nomination. David Axelrod got his his hands on him, and morphed him further along.
During the campaign Obama said nothing most people could understand, but they loved him. How smart are Americans? I am too disgusted to say more of what this man has done. H
This was one of your Best Froggy...It's Amazing how one can be Package and Bought by the American Public. I Never was fooled only Amazed at my Fellow Americans when they Drank the Cool Aid and Voted for Obama.
Froggie,
Interesting and annette already seems like one of the gang...I think I have seen her
TH
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LRC - You run off? "caltex," about 4 blocks up, posted a link so you can hear Charles. You here LRC.
caltex - I've heard Charles talk about this on many occasions. Some times people can "over rely" on their supposed Google expertise and take 6 seconds rather than the time it takes to read and see everything. I call it cherry picking.
The Frog
I thought I've heard him do so as well, so I figured there must be a video somewhere and there it was on youtube!
Frog, here's as far as one can get in 6 seconds of googling -> snopes, of all places! It did say what LRC wrote - yet another proof how biased the site is and why it should NEVER be relied upon.
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caltex - Snopes is used by liberals because it is a Mom & Pop operation run by liberals out of California.
I reacted to a comment from LRC Blogger. LRC and I see many things differently, but he's a gentleman, and makes me smarter. I must have had a wiring malfunction, because I saw LRC, and THOUGHT Texas beta, who is a classless little turd. I stand by my comment, but maybe not the tone. LRC is a gentleman and a bud. You don't have to see things the way I do to be my friend, you just have to show respect, and he always does that.
jim
Nopants, you worry to much! I took no offense. I think you and several others know that I have high respect for your opinions and beliefs. You, Mike, and even frogger make some great and insightful points. While I can guarantee that we do not agree on everything, I think the amount of items we agree on would surprise us.
Here is what we do know, NPD or not, Obama and most of the other politicians in congress (Republicans and Democrats) are not serving you and I. They are serving those that fund their campaigns or their own interests.
Nopants needs no apology but I do appreciate your act of kindness.
That's cool. I guess I'm just feeling guilty for confusing a bud with someone I can't stand. Mistakes are a way of life, but the dumbs ones cost ya, (laughing)
jim
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jim - texasbeat knows better than to land here now.
LRC - Did you listen to the link caltex provided above? He never said it huh?
You stand corrected son.
LMAO
LRC,
"Obama and most of the other politicians in congress (Republicans and Democrats) are not serving you and I. They are serving those that fund their campaigns or their own interests." I have never heard a more true statement spoken by someone who is on the opposite side of the fence from me. Excellent point.
TH
Frog yes texasbeta still a tool hows he like censorship.
TH
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tom - I don't censor, I moderate my own articles. When a user comes on the first post and veers totally off topic, I issue a warning. That's the only one they will receive as we are adults. In beta's case he wanted to persist and then told me to "kiss his ass" so I did. I kissed his ass goodbye from participating on anything I write. That's the story there. I'm sure he tells it an entirely different way.
The Frog
Hi FP
Courtesy of Wikipedia Link
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
To the extent that people are pathologically narcissistic, they can be controlling, blaming, self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ views, unaware of others' needs and of the effects of their behavior on others, and insistent that others see them as they wish to be seen.[6]
People who are overly narcissistic commonly feel rejected, humiliated and threatened when criticised. To protect themselves from these dangers, they often react with disdain, rage, and/or defiance to any slight criticism, real or imagined.[10]
To avoid such situations, some narcissistic people withdraw socially and may feign modesty or humility. In cases where the narcissistic personality-disordered individual feels a lack of admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation, he/she may also manifest wishes to be feared and to be notorious (narcissistic supply).
Although individuals with NPD are often ambitious and capable, the inability to tolerate setbacks, disagreements or criticism, along with lack of empathy, make it difficult for such individuals to work cooperatively with others or to maintain long-term professional achievements.[11]
With narcissistic personality disorder, the individual's self-perceived fantastic grandiosity, often coupled with a hypomanic mood, is typically not commensurate with his or her real accomplishments.
The exploitativeness, sense of entitlement, lack of empathy, disregard for others, and constant need for attention inherent in NPD adversely affect interpersonal relationships.
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Alan - BINGO! Much of that describes Obama to a "T." Thanks for posting more details. That is the intent of my article.
TFP
You are more than welcome FP and have a great weekend
can't argue that he didn't call him narcissistic. I still think that is different from saying you have NPD. Really doesn't matter, he is going to be the Dem nominee for POTUS, it is not relevant that a Dr on FOX news says he is narcissistic, nor does it matter that a Dr on MSNBC says the opposite.
Show me 1000 Doctors that say he has NPD, I'm sure I can produce another 1000 that say he doesn't. The election will boil down to the economy because it is the hot topic of the day. When Bush was elected the 2nd time, it was because the focus was on defense of the country and he was perceived as a better choice.
The economy has slowly improved (stock market has rapidly improved), if this continues for the next year and 4 months, people will vote Obama. Sadly, not enough people like the good folks on this site or on this message thread bother to learn about the candidates, their positions, etc. Most people simply vote based on the hot topic of the day. Bush was catastrophic for the economy, Obama was 'ok' at best. Whomever the challenger is, they'll have to convince the population that they have a better economic plan, these stories on NPD, Birtherism, Obama being a muslim, etc do not hold any weight with the group that sways the election (independents)
Tom Hellert - I love that we agree on Politicians, if more people start to come to that realization and take action, we can reform campaign finance laws, enact term limits, and make some meaningful changes that help both Republican voters and Democratic Voters.
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LRC - Lets not mince words. If you are a narcissist you have NPD. Using the checklist, which is why I put it here, is the basis for any mental health professional to make a diagnosis. Your argument needs to have some sort of validity other than saying "my Google search" on and on and on.
I don't make things up. I write factual articles. This one was intended to allow readers to now look at that chart, see if they can identify at least 5 out of 9 that apply to Obama and then make their comments.
My role, since I have had that graphic for quite some time and have extensively researched this subject about who said what, when, where and why is to add my knowledge as needed. A mental health specialist, made that graphic specifically for my use. I used it over time since Obama was an unknown blip coming out of nowhere.
Your analysis of the economic forecast is what you think not what economists who know about economics other than Keynesian economics, isn't at all rosy. I just wrote a Hub today about "Who Owns The Economy Now." I included easily verifiable data in that article and none of it is very rosy. If you rely on what the Stock Market does, or does not do, you might want to consider that it can crash rather quickly and it's not somewhere I am going to put one thin dime.
I'm not sure what you read as sources for your information but I read a lot. I research a lot before I write. Interesting that you thought that Charles had written what I stated. I also watch many things as I go along and remember exactly what is said.
Have a good day.
The Frog
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"I still think that is different from saying you have NPD."
You're right, in the sense that he said it using different words. However, by saying "the narcissism of the man is rather unbounded" is practically saying not only the man has NPD, his NPD does not have any bounds! It is limitless! Much worse!
Well, I hope that helped. BTW, did you know that if you googled obama narcissism it returns 1,870,000? With that huge number, there is a very good chance 1,000 of the articles written about it were authored by doctors or based on findings by doctors.
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caltex - Google is Google. To try to use it as the basis for an argument is a bit absurd. It's like using Snopes, which is a mom and pop operation out of California. Google does give you a list, usually a very long list, of sources to use. The list is everything that has ever been written on the internet using key words, and key words only.
Not sure I get you, Frog. Google is a search engine. It's definitely not like Snopes. Snopes is a website and not a search engine. Yes, google does give you a list and you're right, it lists everything that has ever been written on the internet using key words. The keywords I used are obama+narcissism and that's the number of results I got. I think you might have missed my point. :)
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caltex - I wasn't comparing the two but contrasting the two.
one only needs to read his book, dreams of my father to realize he knows exactly what he is doing, trying to bankrupt the present capitalistic system to be replaced with a socialistic form of government so the ones who work hard feed more of the ones who don't!
Don't know how they did it but it seems Obama isn't immune from the paparazzi - they got this picture of Baracchio preparing for the third debate! Evidence of NPD or just dotage?
Interesting concept. So many people suffer from some form of mental illness. I really think EVERYONE has something...
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sff - NPD isn't a concept. It is a mental illness. Hopefully I have shed some light on it for you.
TFP
The concept that I was referring to was Obama suffering from NPD.
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