Nixon and Reagan were more corrupt than you thought

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   Sooner28posted 12 years ago

   http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-r … page=0%2C0
   
   http://consortiumnews.com/2013/03/07/oc … -and-argo/
   
   This is written by a journalist who was involved in breaking the Iran Contra story.
   
   My distrust for politicians and state power increases by the day.

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      habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're ALL more corrupt than we'd like to think.

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         Sooner28posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Massively corrupt politicians make me sympathetic to libertarianism.

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            habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            For real! I think some politicians actually seek office for lofty reasons. When they're surrounded by power and opportunity, however, corruption usually follows.

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               rhamsonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I agree and the lure is to go along with the flow to get their particular bill passed. Before they know it they are wrapped up in the corruption of the whole affair. After that there is the next term to raise money for and they are caught forever.

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   innersmiffposted 12 years ago

   The next step is to come to the realisation that politics is fundamentally corrupt by nature

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      Sooner28posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There's anarcho-socialism

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         Stacie Lposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         As some as stated, power corrupts. It's human nature to be corrupted?...or did they start out that way and take advantage of the authority granted them?

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            innersmiffposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Perhaps a little of both. Murray Rothbard says that individuals have propensity for good and for evil, and the way society should deal with this is to create an environment that incentives good and de-incentivises the bad. The state, therefore, as an apparatus of absolute power over others, should not exist.

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            Sooner28posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Most sociologists, political scientists, psychologists etc etc etc are with Rothbard.
            
            Institutional structures are the major determinants of behavior.  Adjust the institutions, while giving people time to acclimate, and the behavior will change also.
            
            Are you familiar with the Milgram experiments from the 60s?  Or the Stanford Prison experiments from the 70s?  If so, that's a perfect example of what I am saying.  If not, check them out and tell me what you think.

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         innersmiffposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Which is fine by me. The anarcho-capitalist and the anarcho-socialist society could co-exist peacefully, I think.

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            Sooner28posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Theoretically anyway .

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