Troubles are Mounting for the U.S., Within and Without

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  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

    Human nature is at the root of the problem.

    Humans tend to look out for their own.
    They tend to put their heads in the sand.
    They tend to be idealistic.
    They tend to trust those in power.
    They tend to be pessimistic.
    They tend to be confused and easily misled.

    (If you are a human, I am sorry to be so blunt.)

    This may sound like the rhetoric of an anarchist, but I am anything but. Our government has checks in place to help us with our human foibles. Appropriate boundaries help curb human propensities for Failure and Chaos. Our well-developed Justice System is vital in providing and enforcing these boundaries.

    Within: We need to squelch our own inequitable ways, ( i.e. economic gain through oil/war/ Globalists.)
                               ___________________________

    America used to be in a position of leadership. We have a tradition of standing up to and against workers of inequity running amok elsewhere in the world.

    (FYI:
    Inequitable: "unfair, unjust, unequal, uneven, unbalanced, one-sided, discriminatory, preferential, biased, partisan, partial, prejudiced. ANTONYMS fair."  Thesaurus)

    Without: We need to re-rise to the occasion of positive leadership in order to defend ourselves and others who need, (and would appreciate,) our assistance against workers of inequity, (i.e. terrorists.)


    For further reading:
    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/montesquieu/

    Feel free to recommend courses of action for America to take for the benefit of all.

    1. wilderness profile image90
      wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Confusion.  How can you "look out for your own" and still be idealistic?  And if pessimistic, how could the public ever be convinced that the Obamacare boondoggle could ever work? 

      Maybe the pessimism is overriden by look out for your own?  I want free health care so the program will obviously work?  That kind of thing?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        "Their own"
        1. Humans care about self, significant other, offspring, extended family, neighbors, neighborhood, town, city, nation... in that order. This is natural, not bad, but must be curbed with the golden rule and the laws of justice.

        "Heads in the sand"
        1. Living life without concern for a bigger picture.
        2. Not keeping up on current events.
        3. Not looking closely at world affairs.
        4. Ignoring problems (for instance our debt to China, the collateral being our entire military industrial complex.)
        5. Not solving economic problems (i.e government overspending through the welfare state and overprinting of money.)
        6. Not holding govt. accountable for preventing a percolating economy through over-regulation, shutting down jobs and industries, and stealing property through claims of public domain.   

        " Idealism"
        1. We don't need government.
        2. War is easily and necessarily avoided.
        3. Government should pay for my needs, Health-care, etc.

        " Pessimism"
        1. I can't find a Job.
        2. The economy is doomed and its because of capitalism.
        3. Our government sucks; We cause every bad thing that occurs in the world.
        4."Lets just do away with the Constitution, (Rule of, by and for the People.) Its not working."

        "Easily led"
        1. "Okay, lets do away with the Constitution. Its an out-dated document anyway."
        2  Voting according to Party affiliation only.
        3. Students are not taught accurate history or philosophic truths.
        4. Students are not taught relevant skills necessary for a life of independence.

        "Trusting those in power"
        1. Believing the illusions they create for the sake of getting votes.
        2. Voting for politicians (who have proven to be workers of inequity) back into office.
        3. Allowing govt. leaders to print useless money which devalues the dollar.
        4. Allowing the political class to be the ruling class.
        5. Re-electing self-interested career politicians.




        Etc.

    2. oceansnsunsets profile image82
      oceansnsunsetsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      We need to keep talking and discussing topics fairly, and reasonably.  I am all for losing any inequitable ways we behave, personally or as a country.  So far, things seem to not be going so well as people seem to be struggling with discussing our most problematic issues, honestly.  Its hard too, when someone is on one side, and they just want to be right.  (Don't we all?)

      So supporting the freely discussing of these kinds of things, can help.  Not a very satisfactory answer, and a partial one, but a little one nonetheless.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        - well, yes!   I would also add that we can contribute to newspapers through op-ed and opinion pieces. We, here on HP, are all becoming great writers/thinkers…smile
        right?

        "An op-ed (originally short for "opposite the editorial page", latterly "opinion editorial") is a piece typically published by newspapers, magazines, and the like which expresses the opinions of a named author usually not affiliated with the publication's editorial board. Op-eds are different from both editorials (opinion pieces submitted by editorial board members) and letters to the editor (opinion pieces submitted by readers)." W

    3. mio cid profile image58
      mio cidposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Things seem to look worst when we are in the midst of situations but everything usually works out better in the long run.If we honestly look at our past presidents they weren't so bad as they seemed to be when they were in office.And all contributed with some positive changes,starting with Nixon the first one I have conscious memory of to the current president Obama.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        So, no president has provoked lasting damage to the nation?

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

    6. Not holding govt. accountable for preventing a percolating economy through over-regulation, shutting down jobs and industries, and stealing property through claims of public domain. 

    For instance:
    "This administration has rejected this balanced approach with rules that have contributed to the demise in the U.S. of more than 360 coal-fired power plant units (16 in Virginia alone) — costing high-paying jobs and putting the reliability of the electric grid at risk — all for negligible environmental gains."

    http://www.roanoke.com/opinion/commenta … da642.html

    This article concludes:

    "We respectfully challenge Sens. Warner and Kaine to raise their voices in the U.S. Senate and demand a revised approach to these rules that won’t have such a devastating impact on the millions of Virginians who rely on coal and affordable energy to keep the lights on and the economy growing."

    Good use of freedom of speech.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

    Solutions:

    Without:
    Our leaders need to possess genuine concern for the people of the nation who they are serving...
    and for the people of the world who we depend on for peace and vice versa

    Within:
    The people need to...
    maintain individual independence and at the same time be willing to help each other
    get our heads out of the sand
    be realistic and accept ourselves as we are
    be positive…understand the wisdom of the founders and the Constitution as it applies to our lives
    think for ourselves, value genuine education
    watch those in power very carefully, vote wisely

  4. profile image0
    ahorsebackposted 9 years ago

    Kathryn,  Is right ! It IS,  the human element that has  and will always spoil the whole basket of apples when it comes to  the governing of humanity ! And , the great experiment of  our democracy [ here we go with that debate again } has been about the most successful form of new governments to come along in a long time  , that combined with the modern economics of our times , helped to morph America into the greatest  experiment that it is today .

    That being said , America is also morphing into a nation  that's  far, far more socialistically oriented ,than it  can  ever afford .to withstand , based upon  financially  self supporting itself  !   Greece  , we cannot afford to be !   Social entitlements  will and are becoming the norm , AND SO   the expected norm from generation to generation !,  " If  My neighbor's on the system so can I  be ",   

    Do not ever fear socialism  my friends , It's already here !. And why , because of  the selfish part of us , because  of human nature !

    1. rhamson profile image70
      rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      ....Social entitlements  will and are becoming the norm ....

      With the ever growing divide between the 1% and the rest this phenomena is not hard to imagine. Rents have skyrocketed as well as groceries. Oranges at $1.50 each is a new normal. So what is one to do? Gather a bunch of debt and get a student loan a volatile job market that may or may not be there? When you watch the car auction shows and so many buying million dollar cars you can clearly see a divide among the haves and have nots.

      1. wilderness profile image90
        wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        It is not the widening divide (and it is there), but the insidious efforts of our masters to control us.  "Help", in the form of charity, is carefully designed to make it difficult to impossible to escape once received; the required effort to get away from charity is far too great, and the returns too little, to make it an acceptable option for a great many people.

    2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      For instance:
      - lets just say I consider it a theft to allow others to help me pay for my health care insurance. I do not want to steal from others.  But I cannot afford health insurance right now, and I do not want medical or some such low class offering. I do not want to identify myself as a medical person. I was proud to have Blue Shield PPO coverage which I paid for myself since my school district where I sub did not cover it. But thanks to Obama/Hillary care, Blue Shield jacked up their prices to the point I could no longer pay $500 a month just for myself! (It started out half that price.)
      Am I not entitled to my pride? MY own choice of how to live a dignified and equitable life?
      NO mad

      Instead, I will be fined/ taxed and PENALIZED!

    3. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      Can you hear the thunder of the founding fathers rolling over in their graves? And all those in our country who fought for the cause of freedom from tyranny???
      This inch of communal health-care insurance gives our masters a mile… or endless miles.
      And we are allowing to happen…

      - why and how?

    4. psycheskinner profile image76
      psycheskinnerposted 9 years ago

      If your pride ends up with you in an emergency room other people will pay for that, and possibly pay extra due to your lack of use of preventive medicine.  In absence of a "right to die rather than accept charity" everyone is obliged to get whatever coverage they can to reduce the future cost of catastrophic health failure that in more common is those not accessing preventive care.

      Even as a dirt poor new immigrant I had the lowest level of insurance, partly because they will not let you into the country without it.  That seemed fair enough to me.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        How Dare You. Your socialistic cure is worse than the problem.

        THE BEST cure is people being able to afford THEIR OWN insurance. California had the best insurance plans in the nation and our system was working JUST FINE!  They were affordable and the majority of people could afford their own insurance. NOT ANY MORE!

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Hospitals could offer their own insurance plans.

        2. psycheskinner profile image76
          psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          My cure of allowing people to opt out of life saving care if they are willfully uninsured is closer to Ayn Rand than Karl Marx.  How dare you expect people like me to pay for your emergency healthcare?

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            How do you know I would?
            I haven't yet, because I am very safe and proactive. I have a good diet and I don't do dangerous things. My two athletic kids made it through adolescence with no accidents whatsoever...and my son was a rollerblader!
            When I had insurance, I had an accident. My insurance covered very little. I ended up paying through credit cards, (which I am STILL paying down!!!) It was a complete waste of money. I wish I had just put the money I was paying to my insurance company into my own emergency account. Many do.

            Ideally, hospitals could offer their own budget-friendly insurance plans.

    5. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      President Obama reminded Democratic donors that “our future rests” on the success of people brought to the United States illegally as children, who would qualify for citizenship if Congress had passed the DREAM Act.

      “About 30 to 40 percent of the kids in this school, by the way, are DREAM kids,” Obama said Wednesday evening. “You wouldn’t know it looking at them, because they are as American as apple pie.  But every single one of these kids, you might not be able to tell the difference, but a whole bunch of them — they’re worried about whether or not they’re going to be able to finance their college education of their immigrant status.  They’re worried about whether, in fact, this country that they love so deeply loves them back and understands that our future rests on their success.  Why wouldn’t we want to give them that certainty that you are part of the fabric of this nation, we’re counting on you, and we’re going to make sure you succeed?  Why wouldn’t we want to do that?”
      http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/38 … oel-gehrke



      FYI
      The President legislated this piece of idealism without approval of Congress by way of Executive order. Deportation laws will not be enforced and home land security is being defunded.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image75
        Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Don't trust Government because they allow me to be hooked on coffee at Tim Hortons. They put nicotine in our coffee, now I‘m hooked on smoking with coffee and did'nt know

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Who is Tim Horton?

          1. Castlepaloma profile image75
            Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Tim Horton is a hockey player who owns Canada largest fastfood chain called
            We  nick named it Horny Tim's because of the people busy buzzing around the
            place like hornets.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              - well, this is cetainly a dastardly deed:  "They put nicotine in our coffee." mad !
              (whoever "They" is!?")

              1. Castlepaloma profile image75
                Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Best to eat real food at home, better yet, grow our own food.

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Takes time and effort.
                  You're out of touch, out of time.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFe78Cm0YCE

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image75
                    Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Hey you, I'm up from the bayou,
                    Where wildlife runs free,
                    You could say that I'm country.
                    But let me tell you what I see.

                    Your world is plastic.
                    Can see through to the otherside.
                    Your cities are made of wood,
                    Antiques are what you've got inside.
                    Houses are paper but folks don't hear a word you say.
                    Friendship's like acid it burns as it slides away.

                    So you see, my patience is growin' thin.
                    With this synthetic world we're livin' in.

                    The word immitation is goin cross the nation
                    What's real has become a freak
                    Someone's tryin' to make me weak.
                    Strange initials to keep me blind.
                    Psychedelic music to blow my mind.

                    So you see, my patience is growin' thin
                    With this synthetic world we're livin' in.

                    Asong from the 70s

                    Spray to clear the air and its filled with spray.
                    Makin people die every day
                    Now I find I'm out of place
                    If I only have one face
                    All my friends have more than two
                    No longer must you be you
                    They found out how to transplant
                    Maybe has replaced can
                    So you see, my patience is growin' thin
                    With this synthetic world we're livin' in.
                    Na na na nee na na na na. etc.
                    Read more at http://www.songlyrics.com/swamp-dogg/sy … 2CMbcOu.99

            2. oceansnsunsets profile image82
              oceansnsunsetsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Don't they have good donuts too, or baked goods?  Seen those places in airports, and I wondered what they were too.  I got a response from my husband, like you haven't heard of Tim Hortons?  It made me recall the first time I heard of Chick fil A, and I wondered what that was.  The group I was with stopped and looked at me, like what?  That was years ago, and I am had come from Southern California at the time.  So these at one time regional chains and stuff, get a good following, but others don't know about them.

              Like for me, I love Cactus cooler and In and Out Burger, and some don't even know about them!  The horror! lol

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                OIC, Oceansnsunsets.
                   
                In and Out Burger!  big_smile

                ...but who (the canadian govt?) spiked CP's coffee?

                1. Castlepaloma profile image75
                  Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Not along many burgers were made from meal worms, some lips an ass holes. Who knows what lab monster-piece they are working on now

                  There was this one coffee shop that had do-nut favored additive for coffee or for ice cream.
                  Must be for people who are too lazy to chew

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Yuck. closed to reply.

    6. profile image69
      Momina Arifposted 9 years ago

      I see a lack of human nature understanding in your prospective. IMPERFECTION explains it all. Human do strive against the discomfort caused by unfair, unjust, uneven, unbalanced, one sided ,discriminatory,prefential, biased, partisan, partial etc etc not knowing that somewhere, somehow he is engaged in it. Being rational is very difficult when by nature you can feel yourself more than anyone else and ofcourse the lack of knowledge about every place and everyone adds to it. I have seen many people fighting very sincerely for the right not knowing that they might be the cause of many of the flaws they are fighting against. It's simply HUMAN IMPERFECTION. You can only strive and minimize and that's what this world have done over the centuries and that is why we might be living in a better age.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I really would like you to expound upon this topic and elucidate further.
        I hope you can provide for-instances. (examples)

    7. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      The war began when the towers went down.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TU4zHscys8

    8. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      WoW!
      President Obama's 2014 UN General Assembly Speech
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzFPI11jp8

      This is a perfectly fine speech!

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
    9. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      On the other hand...
      Could it actually be "Now or never?" yikes !
      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEHsSW … 63OV3J6vhA

    10. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      Hi CP. For fun I will put this up on my other thread too. Thanks.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtaMh0dSDKk

      Q.  Whats wrong with houses made of wood and antiques?

      1. Castlepaloma profile image75
        Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Wood would be problem since 75% of world' Forest has been deforested. Plus 75% of housing is is made of
        wood and 50% of landfill is paper. Most of all this could
        be replaced by hemp, it grows 4 times faster than wood.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Okay. Hemp homes and paper it is.  75% of world's Forests have been re-forested and landfills are full of hemp paper
          and…?

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Conversation with someone else about CP's recommendation:

            Someone: "We would have less land erosion and more air to breathe. The earth needs its forests."

            Me: "Can we change to hemp plywood/paper?

            Someone: "Yes."

            Me: "Are companies willing to transition away from using wood for plywood and paper?"

            Someone: "Not really, due to loss of revenue in the process.  But, they certainly could change from wood to hemp...and they would regain their revenue earnings eventually.
            However, companies are not willing to loose their revenue during the time it would take to transition."

            1. Castlepaloma profile image75
              Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              This 75 year war on Cannibis/hemp would the greatest thing ever changed for the American public. Locking up millions of people over growing the most important plant in the world, makes prison/police /guard the greatest crime ever against the public.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Yes, hemp is not even pot. No THC in it. We used to make rope out of hemp for gosh sakes! It is a quickly growing weed which becomes a wide stalk in about a year. Mash it into the pulp wood is usually used for.
                Using Hemp instead of wood is a perfectly appropriate suggestion, CP.
                Thanks.
                "Locking up millions of people over growing the most important plant in the world, makes prison/police /guard the greatest crime ever against the public."
                I guess this will change in time.
                What do the Foxes (Europeans) say?

                1. Castlepaloma profile image75
                  Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Hemp is showing great profit in many countries. It could replace much of oil and petro, I feel sorry already for Nato's profits.

    11. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      North Atlantic Treaty Organization:
      "An association of European and North American countries, formed in 1949 for the defense of Europe and the North Atlantic against the perceived threat of Soviet aggression. By 2005, the alliance consisted of 26 countries, including several eastern European nations. NATO's purpose is to safeguard member countries by political and military means." D

      "The organization constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. NATO's headquarters are in Brussels, Belgium, one of the 28 member states across North America and Europe, the newest of which, Albania and Croatia, joined in April 2009. An additional 22 countries participate in NATO's Partnership for Peace program, with 15 other countries involved in institutionalized dialogue programmes. The combined military spending of all NATO members constitutes over 70 percent of the global total. Members' defense spending is supposed to amount to 2 percent of GDP." W

      FYI  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX3gM4FyhKI

      1. Castlepaloma profile image75
        Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        U.S spent Soviet to death  by building up the nuclear weapons race enough to kill the human race many times over. Between the two they own 90% of nuclear arms and
        Americas have been the only
        ones who have used them.

        Now Americans are stealing other countries oil. When they
        could produce all they need
        with hemp as they already
        have huge amount of
        farmland . Wail many farmers
        take over are going out of bussiness.

        Besides, killing only increases killing .Nobody can prove by killing someone for killing is right. Two wrongs do not make a right. It's hypocritical and unexcusible
        and wish more people would grow up.

    12. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      Yes, if you listen to that speech at the UN, Obama says the US will never give up their "interests" overseas.

      We have the oil we need in this country. STAY HOME. Use the Military to protect our southern borders!

      I say.


      No?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
        1. Castlepaloma profile image75
          Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          They stoled the gold, now
          oil backs the American dollar.

          When China teams with
          Russia, look out, they both like gold and China likes hemp and solar.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Supposedly, we can't let China and Russia use any other currency besides US dollars.

            They plan not to use US dollars. If they succeed, that will mean big trouble for us.

            I don't really understand this bigger picture. If anyone can explain it, feel free...

            1. oceansnsunsets profile image82
              oceansnsunsetsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              There are so many issues going on, and so many people not thinking very clearly, or fairly, that it is kind of getting discouraging, and scary at times.  I feel like one of the real biggies right now, is people not being able to handle the reality of things, when its unpleasant.  Have we gotten to the point, that we can dream up something much more preferable than what is real, especially when its our lives and livelihoods? 

              If only that were doable, to have what we prefer to be true.  The hardest pill to swallow is that while Americans and other freedom loving countries may not see the inherent danger in this method, our enemies are capitalizing or trying to capitalize on it.  And of course they would! 

              If this were truly a survival of the fittest, then dummies lose for sure in that scenario.  Then we go and vote and spread bad ideas, etc!  What do we expect, honestly?

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                "BAD IDEAS"
                  We need to IDENTIFY them… what are they and what are they based on?
                And what causes them to manifest?

                1. oceansnsunsets profile image82
                  oceansnsunsetsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I was kind of alluding to a lot I saw being talked about here and on some other threads.  Let me think of a concise way to respond, lol. 

                  Here is one little one, that is an assumption of many people, that if they can get something for free from their government, that its actually "free", or doesn't cost anyone something.  The free stuff isn't all free.  So I don't begrudge people in need, and am glad for programs to help, but my point is that there aren't money trees in Washington (if only, right!?), where they can just go and pluck off hundred dollar bills into bushels! 

                  Our government sometimes acts like money grows on trees, instead of where it really comes from.  So these ideas spread!  In the meantime, aren't we becoming indebted to China?  They must think we are the biggest idiots, lol.  I don't mean to be harsh, but think about how foolish we must look!  When is it time to pay the piper!  Oh, and you see people on the news saying "we are headed in the right direction financially" but when you look at what that means, they don't mean it how it sounds.  So there is a lot of apologetics for poor ideas going on all around us.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    1. What kind of world would we be living in, even if handouts didn't cost citizens anything?????

                    2. What "poor ideas" are they apologizing for, do you think? That money grows on trees?
                    Don't people understand why taxes constantly
                         
                                                                      I N C R E A S E ? ? ? ?

                    Do they not understand what happened in Greece?
                    Are they not familiar with the exorbitant tax rates in France?

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … _tax_rates

            2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              "Supposedly, we can't let China and Russia use any other currency besides US dollars…"
              EDIT:  FOR OIL, (Just oil.)
              (This really is a key issue which no one seems to want to touch with a ten foot pole.)
               
              FYI James Madison wanted the people to use metal money. Not paper.
              The Chinese know this is the way to go.
              We need to pay attention.
              “Specie is the most perfect medium, because it will preserve its own level; because, having intrinsic and universal value, it can never die in our hands; and it is the surest resource of reliance in time of war....The trifling economy of paper as a cheaper medium, or its convenience for transmission, weighs nothing in opposition to the advantages of the precious metals....[Paper money] is liable to be abused, has been, is, and forever will be abused, in every country in which it is permitted.”
              Read Up!
              https://utahlinks.org/learn/docs/Bradley_Money.pdf
              Watch:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPXOZYn4qSY

    13. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      Are there money trees in China?

    14. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      "The authors did not ask why the U.S., while vulnerable, is not critically over a barrel by massive foreign holdings of U.S. sovereign debt. The reason is because U.S. sovereign debts are all denominated in dollars, a fiat currency that the Federal Reserve can issue at will. The U.S. has no foreign debt in the strict sense of the term. It has domestic debt denominated in its own fiat currency held in large quantities by foreign governments. The U.S. is never in danger of defaulting on its sovereign debt because it can print all the dollars necessary to pay off foreign holders of its debt. There is also no incentive for the foreign holders of U.S. sovereign debt to push for repayment, as that will only cause the U.S. to print more dollars to cause the dollar to fall further in exchange rates."

      http://www.businessinsider.com/despite- … and-2010-7

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        This stalemate situation won't last forever.

    15. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
      1. Castlepaloma profile image75
        Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Interesting tape.

        The only way to stop this movement. Is to arrest  the top mean wolves who only
        care about their crooked wall
        street and lawyer friends. 

        Or a new world order will try their hand again like they did
        with Hitler.Now who has the kodos to bust this gang?

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          ...well, the American people for one.

          All we have to do is this:

                                                       

                                                       JUST SAY NO
          to government spending programs, such as wildly offered welfare and food stamps.
                                                           SAY YES
                                                to whatever promotes a
                                             PERCOLATING ECONOMY
                 (Within the boundaries of goodness for one and all, of course.)

    16. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      The above is not impossible. Knowing how to set the boundaries is the important thing. It is subtle.

      Boundaries are for the protection of

                             FREEDOM / LIBERTY / INDEPENDENCE / HAPPINESS.

      Thanks for this freedom of speech.

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      Momina Arifposted 9 years ago

      What if the freedom for one destroy the happiness of other or independence leads the basis to take the liberty from other... Idealizing fantasies is not the answer to any problem. We need to understand that ALL HUMAN BEINGS FEEL THE SAME WAY. May be have different opinions and ideologies buh at the end what the whole thing is meant for is to bring the better experience to the humans from freedom/ liberty/ independence/ happiness etc etc.We need to get rational not on the ways we follow but the way we feel.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        What is an example of idealizing fantasies?
        How can one person's independence or liberty take away from the independence or liberty of another? I am not arguing on these points, but would like good examples.
        What do you mean by this statement:
        "We need to get rational not on the ways we follow but the way we feel."
        What ways do we "follow"? What ways do we "feel"?
        If you do not answer these questions we will never understand your viewpoint.
        I understand you are from Pakistan.
        Welcome.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image75
          Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Oh oh! your from Pakistan?

          Your Ok with me, I've been there a few times.
          I would agree we are 99.9% biological the  same and 95% intellectually agreeable the same;-)r

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Yes. Human nature is the same across the board.
            We like freedom and we don't like tyranny.
            However, we can't just do as we like because we have to consider how our actions affect others.
            Justice is giving a man what he is owed:
            Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
            And the Pres. to step away from our minds.
            We want to think for ourselves.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8LqG_Ld0Dw

            1. Castlepaloma profile image75
              Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Like that

              I am what I think

    18. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      Great question, oceansnsunsets: "When is it time to pay the piper!"
      When the dollar is devalued to the extent that it is worth nothing?
      ...collateral will come into play, for sure.
      What is the collateral do you suppose?
      Our earning potential?
      Our GNP?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPXOZYn4qSY

    19. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      We need to stop borrowing from China.
      China has bought two thirds of the world's supply of gold from the world banks.

    20. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      Chinese govt advise gold buying for their citizens - why? What is their plan?

      Read Up!
      http://www.cnbc.com/id/101412718

      Watch up!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSshr7toYhA
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPXncTuwFIE

    21. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      Repeating:
      Great question, oceansnsunsets: "When is it time to pay the piper!"
      When the dollar is devalued to the extent that it is worth nothing?

      Be patient. Watch the whole video. Very enlightening.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPXOZYn4qSY
      "Hallucinations."

    22. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      WoW!

      Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment)    $131.9 billion.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image75
        Castlepalomaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Canada and Sweden middle class and poor do better than the U.S.

        Butt your U.S. rich 1% is number one in the World for Wealth

    23. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      More recently, subsidy tracking group Good Jobs First  released a report detailing where exactly taxpayer dollars are being funneled, and which states are the most likely to divvy up handouts. There are some surprises in the report, but many details won’t come as much of a shock at all. New York and Washington were the top two states for handing out corporate subsidies, with New York alone topping more than $20 billion across nearly 69,000 individual handouts. The data also shows that roughly 75 percent of disclosed subsidy dollars have gone to 965 big companies. The total known value of subsidies across the country came out at an estimated $110 billion, although its likely more.
      http://wallstcheatsheet.com/business/hi … ?a=viewall

    24. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

      A new solution to energy supply near the end.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTb2T0G2kpc

     
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