How childish to act like a third grade drama queen in a debate , did he nail Pence on one thing , no , did he win the debate , No ! He sounded like an absolute twit ! And that is the number two man Hillary choses as a running mate , more than likely to assume the presidency when she is done ? Please . Who will defend such outshouting as a debate style ? Is THAT the new liberal debating style , LOUD ?
Maybe he tried the Trump style.
An analysis by FiveThirtyEight said Kaine logged more than 70 interjections and interruptions, while Pence had more than 40.
Trump, the Republican nominee, was responsible for 55 of those 84 interruptions, while Clinton contributed 11.
Coughing up furball here but got to go with island bites on this one.
Yeah, I don't get it, ahorseback. It was so obviously bad. I couldn't even watch it. Someone is yanking our chains. Its enough to make you not care about this country. Like if you do, its too upsetting. If Hillary and Bill get in to the co-presidency, it will be dismal. But if they don't, half the country will come unglued.
Theres no winning this time around.
Actually ,There is an incredibly negative national image if the Clintons win ! The whole definition of horrible will have to be re-written , How can the world ever again look at America with an ounce of respect again ? I am ashamed of the voters choice[s] in this candidacy ! Both sides share an unbelievable blame for this entire election process . I used to believe our collective political apathy was the new plague , It is actually the new reason for the end of America .
There is a vision within me that sees revolution in the streets in the near future --OR --- there will be no change whatsoever , and the disease of apathy will simply continue ,however worsening But if we do not awaken soon at the street level , something wonderful-the [American dream ] will totally disappear , that dream as we have known it !
Is it inevitable ? Is it controllable ? Can we regain control of an out of control train ? Does the American voter care enough ? That is the true question .
I think what you fail to accept is that there are multiple visions for the direction America should go. That is what keeps us too afraid to unite against Washington. Until the American people unite in their frustration we won't see effective revolution. I want America (the citizens, not the government) united. For better or worse.
Oh No , What I DO see is the direction that America can go in, and in particular the direction we ARE moving in , One that is not the same as the past , a balance between two party ideologies that , although disagreeably , worked .
But the other "way to go " is irretrievable to traditional balanced directions but towards a self governing of entitlement , for lack of better description -socialism . But not the socialism that we have ideologically warred against for decades but the one of self governed anarchy entitlement .
A useless detached central , state or local government , a government for lack of a better description composed of a conglomerate of unions . UAW , NEA , federal , local , municipal unions , "entitlement " driven unions .
If you think we are not headed towards the answer to elitist America and the onslaught of Socialism you have your head buried in the sand. We are and have been working towards a Socialist State for many years under the guise of Democracy. Most if not all of the following services could not exist without the socialist support by our government. Some are not as popular as others but the private sector could not run most of them without our governments support.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29 … ed-America
1. The Military/Defense
3. Public Libraries
5. Fire Dept.
6. Postal Service
7. Student Loans and Grants
9. Garbage Collection
10. Public Landfills
12. Farm Subsidies
15. Congressional Health Care
16. Polio Vaccine
18. Social Security
20. Public Schools
21. Jail/Prison System
22. Corporate/Business Subsidies
23. Veteran's (VA) Health Care
24. Public Parks
25. All Elected Government Officials
26. Food Stamps
27. Sewer System
29. Court System
30. Bird Flu Vaccine
31. G.I. Bill
32. Hoover Dam
33. State/City Zoos
35. Free Lunch Program
36. The Pentagon
39. Health Care for 9/11 Rescue Workers
40. Swine Flu Vaccine
41. Disability Insurance (SSDI)
42. Town/State Run Beaches
43. Corporate Bailouts/Welfare
44. State Construction
45. Unemployment Insurance
46. City/Metro Buses
48. State Snow Removal
49. PBS (Public Broadcasting Service)
50. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
52. Public Street Lighting
54. Public Defenders
58. The Department of Homeland Security
60. State and National Monuments
61. The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)
62. Government Scholarships
63. Department of Health and Human Service
64. Census Bureau
65. Department of Energy
66. Customs and Border Protection
67. Department of Education
68. Secret Service
68. Secret Service
70. Department of Justice
71. National Weather Service
72. The White House
More than half of that that you listed is controlled economically on the state or local level , AND THAT IS FED BY LOCAL VOTING WHERE --BELIEVE IT OR NOT NO ONE IS SHOWING UP TO VOTE EXCEPT FOR THE LOCAL UNION PEOPLE i.e. teachers , municipal employees , state employee unionist's !
The feds end of your listings ARE controlled by congress and a senate working outside of the people's will ! On those you are correct , -- the local level problem and cause is pure voter apathy ! When was the last time you voted locally at a school board meeting ?
I agree the apathetic attitude towards self government is pathetic to say the least. The accountability to vote out the swine in Congress is an egregious oversight on our part as citizens and caretakers of our system. More and more people want to shortcut their responsibility to voter participation by electing a silver bullet to "Fix" all our woes in one fell swoop. Where it starts is at the local level where you vote in the competent and worthy and cut out the slime and greedy.
The fact remains whether on the local or federal level we love the socialist programs and are a way of compensating for the lack of private sector support of necessary programs. I am sorry to say the only way there is an equalization between the haves and the have-nots is a socialist agenda because the top tier are working overtime to alleviate any responsibility for the upkeep of our way of life that was what we and they were in the past.
"there will be no change whatsoever , and the disease of apathy will simply continue ,however worsening"
More and more I see this as the direction we are headed. For some odd reason we put so much faith in the Presidency as the instrument for change while we continue to support a totally bought out of touch for the common man Congress. With a 13% to 16% approval rating we will re-elect 93% of these slime balls back into Congress expecting some sort of change. As shown with Obama the Congress can nearly shutdown the Executive Branch with little repercussions. The puss bags in Congress are paid off by the lobbyists to do what they will and we cruise along oblivious to the problem nor willing to give it a passing thought. An Article V convention is the means by which we can change this. But as recent events in the UK with Brexit any change will come hard trying to avoid real policy measures and elective rules.
Join it, sign the petition and participate in this non partisan movement back to self government.
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