If Trumps isn't you President ?

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Maybe America isn't your country ?    Time to put on your big boy pants and decide  if you are a sore loser or  an ex-patriot ,      Otherwise buckle in and watch America clean itself up . Kind of like a  computer virus   for the young and inexperienced in the electoral process ,     once in a blue moon  we have to  have the opposite ideology in power , ask me , the right has  dealt with that for eight long years !
   
   Is Trump your president ?

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      PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Trump is my president and I am his constituent. He and the rest of our leaders will hear from me often.

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Perfect !    ..........you did it P.P.  , you have evolved .  By the time his reign is over  , you will just love him .

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            PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            No, I've always accepted my president. You just automatically put me in your prefashioned little box to make it easier on yourself, like you pretty much always do.

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               PP. Everything in a box is understandable ,   Much like liberals do and don't admit   .    You see , that's where you guys put everyone instantly not of shared opinion .    No P.C. put them in a box, Don't swallow my opinion cheerfully , put them in a box,   Don't see through  political rose colored  glasses ,put them in a box .      Liberals are the original and ultimate dividers of all things .

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                  PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Uh huh.

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      PhoenixVposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Technically, for many protestors, Enrique Peña Nieto is their president.

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Since America was the country of every right winger who insisted Obama wasn't their president I would think it would be the country of those who don't like Trump.

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         PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you for that fair and reasonable statement.

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      Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Would you be saying the same thing if Hilary would've won?  I mean she did win the popular vote, and what's ironic here is that Trump once said that he thought the electoral college votes were BS, but if it wasn't for the electoral college, then he never would've won.  Your thoughts?

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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

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            Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Who brought up Adolf Hitler?  I was just asking if ahorseback would be saying this rhetoric if Hilary Clinton would've won.  And then I went on to mention how Hilary Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump only won because of the electoral college, which is fact.  I never brought up Hitler at all, so I don't know what you're talking about.

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               Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               So sorry. I read that as Hitler. Not sure why but that name has been bandied around so much over the last few days it must be on my mind.
               
               But, I think you are probably wrong. I think America assumed a Hillary win. I think ahorseback and just about everyone had already adjusted to the assumption of another democrat in office.

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                  PhoenixVposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I think Hitler won the popular vote in "33. Hillary in '16.  I can see how it could be confusing.

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                     Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Back off bud. If he hadn't misspelled Hillary this embarrassing incident wouldn't have happened.
                     
                     Anyway, he's a liberal so it was probably intentional sabotage. I need a safe space. With legos, preferably, in order to find a way to deal with this.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        I have not done pot much, since a teenager.
                        
                        Pot makes much more sense as a religion and ban Politics from our discussion. Wow Man!!!☺
                        
                        Some Policeman use pot to control their psychopathic anxiety syndromes.

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                        Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Actually, I'm an independent, who voted for Jill Stein.  Thank you very much, and I feel both Barrack and George W. are two of the worst presidents in US history, so I'm not a liberal or a conservative.  I'm just a neutral observer.  The whole misspelling of Hillary's name was accidental, as I usually tend to forget whether or not her name has one or two "L's" in it.  My bad.

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                           Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           You're an independent? Me too.
                           
                           I think Bush was an idiot but I don't think Obama was one of the worst. He disappointed me on a lot of fronts but I respect the man.
                           
                           And don't apologize for the misspelled word that was all my fault. I was just joking on the response to Phoenix.

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                              Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              Oh okay.  My apologies then.  I think Hillary and her campaign managers made the same mistake the GOP candidates did, in that they underestimated Trump's popularity.  I said from day one that the only presidential candidate that looked like he could beat Trump was Bernie Sanders.  Granted, I did say the same thing about Dr. Ben Carson for awhile, but after all the facts came out about him, I quickly changed my tune on that, as I don't know why I ever thought he'd win anything this year in hindsight.

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                                 Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 I didn't think Carson stood a snow balls chance. He was a nice guy but definitely couldn't win the presidency. I liked Kasich. I'll never really understand why he didn't get more traction but this was an anti establishment election cycle.

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                                    Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                    I just thought he would win after he made his first interview about saying how he wanted to unite both the democrats and republicans, but after all the facts came out about him, i quickly admitted I was wrong, as I guess first impressions aren't always right.
                                    
                                    I think CNN said it best.   The main reason Hillary lost was because her campaign managers played right into Trump's hands.  Throughout the general election, it seemed like her strategy was selling people on the idea that she would be a less traumatic choice than Trump, but all that did was really give the man more free publicity that he didn't have to pay for, and fed into his narrative about the media being biased against him.  That's all it did really, and Hillary lost.  I think if she had just focused more on the issues, then she would've won, but she made the same mistake the other GOP candidates did, which was hope that Trump was going to bury himself, but that didn't happen.

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                              PhoenixVposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              I was just taking the opportunity of pointing out that Hitler also won the popular vote. Even though I"m an uneducated white guy, knowing Nazi history is intrinsic. I didnt mean to upset you, the last thing I wanna do is make a trump supporter angry.

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                                 Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 I was never really a Trump supporter, just a Hillary hater. I'm honestly hoping Trump rises to the occasion but he got down pretty low during the run for president so he's got a hard task ahead. But, whatever happens it's still better than a Hillary presidency.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           Good choice, Jill Stein.
                           
                           I was so excited about Paris accord. With America under Trump, it feels like a pipe dream.

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                  Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I think a lot of people did because Trump is right that the election was being rigged in Hilary's favor, as it was kind of obvious if you ask me.  Whether he should've mentioned that or not is a different story, as he needed to keep that to himself because it might've backfired. 
                  
                  I think the main reason why you're probably seeing Hitler's name brought up so much in relation to Trump is because you have a lot of white supremacist groups supporting him openly, which is why there's a lot of comparisons.  Honestly, I don't think he's a racist.  Just an idiot, but that's just my opinion. 
                  
                  Honestly, I'm not surprised Trump won.  Hillary Clinton ran arguably one of the worst presidential campaigns in US history, and it didn't help her that all her replies, during each speech and debate, sounded like something you'd either expect a politician to say, or just rehearsed too many times.  She couldn't have been more phony if she had tried.   I think what this election showed us is that people are tired of phony politicians and want candidates that speak from the heart rather than say what they think we want to hear.

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      RJ Schwartzposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Trump is America's President, just as every other fairly elected President was.  This notion of "not mine" or "my president" is entirely an emotional reaction.  No one is happy when their candidate loses or gets caught doing something wrong, however that doesn't change the President's standing as the nation's leader.  I'm  not a fan of Obama, but that doesn't mean I'm ready to give up my citizenship and embrace another nation as my new country. 
      Our nation is at a crossroads, one which we've been sitting at for several years.  The crowds on both sides of the political spectrum are growing louder and bolder.  The two sides are both guilty of saying they refuse to work with people from the other side.  From what is expected to happen shortly, the Trump administration will swing everything Obama has done back to the right as far as they can, and if a Democrat follows Trump, expect the same thing but back to the left and even further.  That is a recipe for disaster of the nation.

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   colorfuloneposted 6 years ago

   
   Finally, I have man I am honored to call my president.

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      PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Good one! You do deserve some kind of special achievement award.

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         Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

         It's called 'The Snarky'.

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            Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Horse
            What happens if US becomes ground zero for civil and world war.? Will you stand in front of Trump or behind him, when the guns go off.
            
            Personally I stay away from guns altogether.

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               Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

               No where near him, as my blood is more precious than the aristocrats gold.

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                  colorfuloneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh, the Rockefeller Club?   Trump isn't a part that bunch, that's why they fear him.
                  
                  No salary and no vacations.  He did say he would take $1 if the law requires he take something. Trump will be shutting himself in basically to work, and because it would be to dangerous to be out in public.

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                     Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     I really hope that you are right about that, if so there is hope. But, the mainstream GOP will never abide with that perspective.

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                        colorfuloneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        The GOP establishment is licking Trump's boots right now hoping for some crumbs.  The street fighter, Steve Bannon will be Trump's top adviser, and he is anti-establishment.  Neocons are sad.

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   Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago

   Colourful brought something up about 3 million illegal Hispanic voted.
   
   I looked into it further and Pew charitable trust found 18 million invaded votes. Voting frauds is a felony
   
   I know US is turning into zombie-land yet 4 million of Americans voters were dead.
   
   Over 2 million Americans go to prison each year. How can 18 million commit a felony in a few week. Tell me before I claim USA an insane asylum or fire all Federal Government or inprison them for stupidity.

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   Angelzplayposted 6 years ago

   this is america, you forget we have freedom of speech. you dont like it youre free to go back to Europe, you wont be missed.

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      Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      New guy
      
      Who are you addressing?

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      RJ Schwartzposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Try putting up some content on HP instead of just throwing bombs...

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Okay listen up liberals !
   
   I knew that would get your attention , liberals always get their collective hackles up when they have to listen for a change .      Hilary lost !    Wow , there is a surprise ,    This is the quintessential problem of the new left ,    You chose about four people to  pick  from  , Hilary, Sanders , Stein , and the other unknown .............One day , if liberals ever figure it out ,    you will actually coagulate more than one opinion  of the many  ideal's and idea's to develop an ACTUAL plan of action .
   
   Your leadership had one plan this entire election , To attempt to rig the process from the outcome .
   THAT was the one  thing that you could all come up with ?     Rig the system ? - Chicago  politics ?
   Bu the  irony  of all of this process and the inevitable outcome IS that  you're actually  standing  around in groups  NOW scratching your heads and wondering why it didn't work ?
   
   My advice , go into an elementary school , sit in a classroom of kindergarteners  and observe when after the first half hour  , it all breaks down to  a loosely controlled chaos ,   THERE is the problem with the democratic party today - EVEN when you do win - the Obama administration -  you end up with a thousand different voices screaming  a thousand demands  .
   
   Face it ,you have no plan.

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      Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The Plan blueprint is in Trump head that continues changes or conflict it'self from week to week. That is like doing the election in a continuous insane loop . But now with horrible physical results. My plan and foresight has been in the working for 5 years and working well. It is the 99℅ unprepared that are in very deep trouble.

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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         We've got plenty of game and a fully stocked pond to fall back on. Good soil. We don't have to be prepared when we have such a rich environment and a community which cares about its neighbors.

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            ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            That is exactly the America that will survive .   Minus the night guards to protect your garden from the marauding  , hungry masses of  expatriates .
            
            Wait a minute ,  I think I see  Nancy Palosi in my garden .

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               PhoenixVposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Keep her as a scarecrow.

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                  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  When all the money runs out, it could be your neighbors or a police psychopath who could raid of kill you first for your food and sheltering.

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                     ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     I am convinced liberals will starve to death next to my garden rather than admit their ideology as failed.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        I can see you teaming up with the psychopath bullies to protect your home and garden. Also  there always will be a worst bad a_s or psychopath to take it all away from you.
                        
                        My path is to take then less traveled psychopath and bad a_s area.  Then team up with our self substainable permaculture community involved in building and all security watches . Then send care packages or education about tiny houses to my ungrateful Americans friends and some family members.

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                           ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           Well good for you , so after you deserted the former world that you lived in - you will set out to save it again ?       While the rest of us stayed , shared our garden and  pinch the pennies of democracy .

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                              Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              I don't always agree democracy especially when come to personal issues like sex and what we put in and out our bodies.
                              
                              From being artist/business person for 42 years. When Trump stops cheap oil from Saudis and products from China then has no answer how to replace them. Trump and much of his family are Zionist , you can not maked sense out of Zionist bankers they won't get their hand dirty.
                              
                              Sorry America is screwed.

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                                 Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 Let us know when you set up camp in Bolivia. Well, as soon as you have electricity and all...

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   If Trumps isn't you president! 
   … then yous betta leave.

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      Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I know how to make electricity at 1/10 the price. And make oil, fuel and most housing material from hemp.
      
      If Trump has to be your President or you must leave. Than most Americans would have to leave because nearly half did not vote at all plus most for Hillary. I would welcome them and not ever shut the door behind them.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         well, Good! Havn't yu'all left YET?

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            Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Have some legal problem on a bill for cutting my grass in my Belize property,. A guy trying charging too much on taxes. Then some odd paper out of Ontario Canada and relatives visits. May be gone for a very long in Bolivia.
            
            Are you one of those Republican who are anxious to help pack my bags.? Marshal law has not been declared yet.

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               How is your novel going?

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                  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  You will have tons to write about when the civil and world war breakout.
                  
                  I will be playing Tarzan playing with monkeys. Swimming with river otter, dolphins and Crocodile.  Teaching premature and Building castles workshops. Then making bamboo furniture and enjoying eternal string time. 
                  Won't write a novel, you are a much better writer than me. Documentary films, yes.

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               Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               You're taxed for cutting your grass in Belize? Wow. That sounds like a wonderful democratic and free society. I can't wait for things to fall apart here. Maybe we'll get a new government which raises money every time we turn on a lawnmower.

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Someone is mowing YOUR  lawn AND you're  actually going to  pay them ?
               
               Castle , your sounding very much like an American ! Next thing we know  you will have become a Zionist . Be careful down there  , you might be arrested for practicing capitalism and improving on socialism !

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                  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Tiny house in Belize is the land I'm selling. Have four buyer for payment, yet only one will pay cash, in which is lower than I wanted. Plus need to sort a lazy landscaper bill. Being separate from that an extra land tax was not aware of. Must sell land for cash because Marshal law and a bank run can take all my money and yours.
                  
                  Zionist are like keep up with the Kardashians yet a secret society and the most destructive force on earth. When I get to Bolivia, I must sort out some deals for a land base eco village tiny house community. The Zionist land sharks will be moving in to Bolivia to hide like the Nazis did for their safety.  The Zionist will cause a nuclear weapons destruction in the northern hemisphere.
                  
                  The Bolivians can not tolerate Zionist or rich Americans greed, they must hide like the dirty evil rats that they are. They would ban Trump all together in a heart beat. They can run but can't not hide. I suggest stop fighting each other. Then lock up Zionist before they lock you up or kill you, the greed dieses has no bounds.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 6 years ago

   Good luck with that.
   
   
   HubPages gets it's word count even when you other words serve any purpose, but here you go.

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