Fraud: Report Shows Thousands Voted Illegally in Virginia

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   colorfuloneposted 6 years ago

   Over 5,500 voters were quietly purged from election rolls in Virginia after it was determined they should not have been able to register in the first place, says a new report from a public watchdog agency.
   
   The new report released by the Public Interest Legal Foundation determined that more than 5,500 people in Virginia who were registered to vote were kicked from election rolls after they “self-identified as non-citizens” to state officials. Of that, almost 2,000 individuals likely violated the law when they cast their ballot.
   
   Some voters had been voting illegally since the 1980s.
   
   The information raises serious concerns among Virginian officials over who is currently registered to vote in the state.
   
   The foundation blames longtime Clinton ally and Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe for trying to suppress the information from being released for political purposes.
   
   “At the instruction of Governor McAuliffe's political appointees, local election officials spent countless resources to prevent this information from spilling into the open,” said a statement from the PILF. “From [Northern Virginia] to Norfolk and all urban and rural points in between, alien voters are casting ballots with practically no legal consequences in response.”
   
   The report backs-up claims made by President Trump over widespread voter fraud, and is likely the tip of the iceberg as the administration creates a new commission to investigate allegations of election abuse throughout the country.
   
   Washington Times:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 … elections/

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      ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      That is why we need a voter ID card of some kind ,   AND I would think the left would be screaming for that too.  Voter fraud , " foreign intervention ", liberally influenced  illegal immigration , 
      
      Incidentally , I also recently read somewhere recently that the total $ number of opioids  going into Virginia - West Virginia alone  in LEGAL venues ,  was something like eighty billion dollars in the last couple or so years ,I think ...........Maybe they are all high and vote constantly  .......:-] [joke ]

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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Well, certainly. I, myself, have voted four times already; just today. I'd vote more but 4 free pills is the daily limit.

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      promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      PILF is a Republican organization. Board members represent GOP candidates and are frequent contributors to Breitbart and Fox News. Read the bios.
      
      https://publicinterestlegal.org/about-u … directors/
      
      What a surprise this "non-partisan" organization somehow blames Hillary Clinton and Terry McAuliffe.
      
      Even if the claim is remotely true, you leave out the critical fact that the 1,852 who allegedly cast ballots did so between 2011 and 2017.
      
      The general election alone had 15.3 million votes from 2011 to 2016. That works out to 0.012% of all votes JUST for the general election that may have been fraudulent.

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   Will Apseposted 6 years ago

   Number of registered voters in Virginia in 2017: 5,488,963
   
   Around 1800 voters may have voted illegally in the recent election. Or they may not have. Nobody knows who they voted for, even if they did.
   
   Anyway, we do know:
   
   Votes for Trump 1,769,443
   
   Votes for  Clinton 1,981,478
   
   Victory margin= circa 210,000
   
   We also know that Trump talked of 'massive voter fraud' in Virginia. Not sure this qualifies. But it will make a great excuse for further voter suppression.

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Is the underlying assujption here that because there were not enough illegal votes to affect the outcome that there is no problem?  That we should ignore such activity until there IS an effect on an election?  Perhaps counting illegal votes each year (making sure that we get them all, paying a bi-partisan committee to do the count) but without ever making any effort to stop illegal activity?
      
      Actually makes sense - we make little effort to stop illegal residency, and in fact do what we can to encourage breaking the law.  Might as well extend it to voting, too!

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      No one advocates voter suppression. I'm not certain why attempting to make certain only those qualified and registered to vote do is considered voter suppression.

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         Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Jeff Sessions, your AG has quite a record in the voter suppression arena. It is already becoming a theme of his reign.
         
         https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ … /97572474/
         
         If he ain't sued that woman for that article, she must have chosen her words carefully and stuck to the facts.

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            Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            An opinion piece, written by a woman claiming to have been mistreated by him 60 years ago and 35 years ago?
            
            Yeh, OK.
            
            60 Years ago I hadn't been born. I suppose that makes me have a history of absenteeism?

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               Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Case in point
               
               Thought I'd beat promisem to the punch.

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               Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               If an eyewitness account by a woman at the center of the case does not impress you, you are obviously not interested in evidence.
               
               There is long history after that, including gerrymandering districts to eliminate latino majorities, making it hard for black people to access voter ID and much creative stuff with Sessions as an accessory and supporter.
               
               I don't know why I am giving this link but it is informative for anyone who like facts:
               
               https://www.thenation.com/article/jeff- … ng-rights/

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                  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  First, let me give you some information on how I think.
                  
                  There was a case where a guy was moving in on execution. He had been on death row for 25 years. I don't have a problem with the death penalty in some cases but this one I found particularly abhorrent. No one is who they were 25 years ago. So, if I don't think a guy who gunned down multiple people, in cold blood, is the same person he was 25 years ago do you think I won't give a law abiding citizen the same courtesy?
                  
                  I looked at your link. It says he cheered a Supreme Court decision. It appears to me that the Supreme Court is more than willing to shoot down laws and behavior patterns which clearly show an attempt to divide by racial lines. So, even though your article claims he can have disastrous effects by advocating a federal voter-ID law and/or a proof of citizenship law for voter registration I'm not certain I can agree with you, or the author that this will disenfranchise anyone. A little effort is not much to expect in order to prove you are qualified to cast a vote. If someone could show me how this would disenfranchise anyone, I'd be willing to rethink my position..
                  
                  Sorry, attributing guilt with unsubstantiated claims and accusations is not the way we do things in America. It may be that way on your side of the pond but we just don't assume guilt without a trial and conviction.
                  
                  Look at the late Senator Byrd. What a white supremacist. But, since he was a Democrat that got white washed and ignored. I don't advocate whitewashing anyone but I'll wait for conviction prior to lynching.

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   Will Apseposted 6 years ago

   The underlying problem is no one has any solid evidence that anyone voted illegally at all in Virginia.
   
   Texas locked up one women for 8 years recently for voting illegally. That is ONE.
   
   Elsewhere, republican and democratic officials found no evidence of widespread fraud.
   
   From here: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/18/us/voter-fraud.html
   
   Quote:
   
   'Tennessee counted 40 credible allegations out of some 4.3 million primary and general election votes. In Georgia, where more than 4.1 million ballots were cast, officials said they had opened 25 inquiries into “suspicious voting or election-related activity.'
   
   Of course you will not trust the words of professionals charged with monitoring voter fraud, will you?

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   psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

   Quite.  I have seen only that one substantiated case of voter fraud, and as it happens she voted for Trump.

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