Conservatives are planning major U-turn on Universal Credit.

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   nikkikhan10posted 7 years ago

   Another U-turn by Conservatives on Universal Credit,which is going to be a relief sense for all the people who suffered for last 7 years,because of this universal credit.
   Of course,credit goes to Mr Jeremy Corbyn,thanks to him for all the effort.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Universal Credit , as in  earned income credit ?  Sounds like you're from the U.K.  .
      This is simply typical of  all government entitlements , Why should those who overspend , over-invest in debt and  over extend themselves in debt receive rewards,  economic and tax based ?

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         nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         There can be people who spend a lot,have loads of debt but still,,there are lots of who work hard but their income is not much ,and they can't support themselves,some are working but their income is very less,some are not.
         So lots of people are badly affected with this government's universal credit scheme which was introduced in 2013 to replace six benefits income into one which leaves many facing difficulties to handle their household expenses.

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            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Have to agree with Horse, here - there seems to be a never ending demand from part of the population that they be allowed to take what others have earned.  It should be termed (in the US) as Unearned income!

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               nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

               They don't take all what others earn,its a criteria of Government support to the people with low income or unemployed.
               I know some people misuse this benefits system but it doesn't mean that eligibles should be deprived of as well.

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                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  OK, government takes what others have earned in order to have the money to give away in "credits" that were never owed nor paid in the first place.
                  
                  Can't see much difference; either way one group of people is paying to support another group.  But the poor isn't being deprived of anything; instead the earners are being deprived of what they have labored for.

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                     ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Maybe that is why the middle class is shrinking here .  Paying for someone else's  debts  and financial mishandling  is getting old ,   I can chose to go poor and benefit from tax breaks  or get rich  and avoid them .

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                        nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        That's good to know,even I won't take all such benefits but still I feel if someone is in need and don't have any resources,better to get support from council rather than begging on streets or rough sleeping.

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                           ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Most nations have social safety nets , America has an over abundance of such measures  . Good luck counting on such services rather than simply working ever harder ,   I worked two and three jobs as a younger man full and part time .

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                              nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Good to know,,you have worked hard in your young age,and I am not counting on any social services,even I never took any benefits in my whole life,,so good luck to those who are taking them and counting on.
                              I am just political observer,and feel like social system of Great Britain is doing its best to support the most vulnerable,though some people do frauds ,but it doesn't mean,to deprive of the honest and needy people of this.

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                     nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     You are right,everyone works hard and some people just get financial support without working or working less,the feeling of anger I can understand.
                     But still just think if a hard worker becomes disable just in some unfortunate accident or on work,he will definitely apply for benefits,so in some cases its good for disabled or needy people to get some support instead of asking their friends or families for help.Think both sides of picture to get a better understanding of this benefit system.

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                        wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        I used to purchase both short and long term disability insurance - it paid my salary if I became temporarily disabled from accident, illness, etc.  Whatever happened to that concept of planning ahead, of being self sufficient, etc.?  Why do we feel that when it happens (and it will, to most people), it is up to our neighbors to cover the cost of our misfortune?

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   colorfuloneposted 7 years ago

   Everybody should teach their children the value of hard work to earn money, and then give half of what they earned to the lazy kid down the block. 
   
   Wink, Wink!

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      nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      well,,whichever way you teach them,,this benefits system is designed to help needy and vulnerable people,and it should continue financial support for the deserved people.

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         GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Nikkikhan, I see that you are new to these forums, and I see that you are apparently British.
         
         If you haven't already guessed, you have batted at a hornet's nest with a perpsective of government support for "...deserved people."
         
         There is a huge difference in the British and the American perspective of government support for "deserved people." We feel that deserved people are people that embrace personal responsibility, I have the impression that Brits have quite another view.
         
         To that point, you have my sympathy, (but not my support), for the point you are trying to make. Welcome to the American Hubpage's forums.
         
         GA

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            nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            thanks for your comment and sympathy,Brits do have idea of working hard,even I have worked hard my whole life and still doing,and never taken any benefits in my life,just don't like to depend on anyone except God.
            But still Britain's Government support system for poor,disabled and elderly is doing its best to help them out.
            Conservatives brought universal credit scheme which meant to save some money from welfare system,but their idea is flop as their other ideas are like Brexit idea which shattered all Britain and caused huge financial crisis for everyone,even for working class.
            Now Labour is doing its best forcing Tories to scrap all its useless schemes,and universal credit is one of those.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   In America , for over forty years there has been something called ,' Earned Income Credit ' This program sounds like the UK's where  many families receive far , far more "back " in refunds  than what they ever paid in .
   
   In spite of that , perhaps  one who has two or more children before they are or were financially stable ,   should have waited to have kids .
   
   It isn't up to "all others " in higher income brackets ,to pay their way for them .

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      nikkikhan10posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Of course,it isn't rich people's responsibilty and its not because of having kids before financially stability,its about helping those who need it.
      If someone can't work,,is disable or can't find regular job then having kids earlier or later won't help out much.
      The idea is just help those out who need it and identify those who are misusing it rather than stopping it at all.
      Conservatives introduced this universal credit to save worker's money which worsened the situation.
      Now more people are homeless, even more workless or working part time,more financial crisis and every worker is suffering because of this Government's cuts.

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