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Knowingly or Ignorantly Hired Foreign Agents during 2016 Campaign?

  1. ptosis profile image83
    ptosisposted 3 weeks ago

    Please give me a logical alternative to this.
    There are certain people who say there was "No collusion whatsoever between Trump 2016 Campaign and the Russian Government."

    OK. So my questions is this.
    Did Trump hire Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort without bothering even a google search?
    Did Trump hire Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort  carelessly, even with warnings from Obama?

    If yes to either above Q's then the defense of "No Collusion" is due to incompetence or neglect? Is that what is being said? I know that the Speaker of the House said that Trump was "new at this", as an excuse months ago.


    Please explain why there were 2 confirmed (and registered belatedly) Foreign Agents in Trump's Campaign?

    A foreign agent is anyone who actively carries out the interests of a foreign country while located in another host country, generally outside the protections offered to those working in their official capacity for a diplomatic mission. -wiki

    Remember the other words for Foreign Agent are:
    agent, detective, informer, investigator, mole, operative, secret agent, secret service, undercover agent, emissary, lookout, observer, patrol, picket, plant, scout, sleeper, sleuth, snoop, spook, spotter, watcher, double agent, espionage agent, inside agent, intelligencer

    The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) was enacted in 1938. FARA is a disclosure statute that requires persons acting as agents of foreign principals in a political or quasi-political capacity to make periodic public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, as well as activities, receipts and disbursements in support of those activities.  Disclosure of the required information facilitates evaluation by the government and the American people of the statements and activities of such persons in light of their function as foreign agents. The FARA Registration Unit of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) in the National Security Division (NSD) is responsible for the administration and enforcement of the Act. - https://www.fara.gov/

    P.S. Please restrain yourself from the Russian Troll Tactic of whataboutism regarding Clinton's private  server.  Please start a different thread for that and not hijack the conversation with flack and distraction. Thank you.

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Your definition is outside your own personal concept, it seems.  Almost, if not all, the synonyms you list are quite negative and so is the picture you wish to present.

      But the president of the US could be a legitimate "foreign agent" by your definition.  Negotiating a peace treaty or cease fire, for instance, between two other countries.  Negotiating the sale of Uranium ore or other goods.  Arranging the sale of goods, including military weapons or planes.  Lobbying congress for laws that help both the other nation and the US.

      All of these, according to your wiki definition, are "foreign agents" but there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of them.  The insinuation you are trying to make then - that the "foreign agents" on the campaign were all evil and against the interests of the US - simply does not follow.

      1. ptosis profile image83
        ptosisposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        Come-on W, you didn't even read it carefully. Gawd - I had it in BOLD so you wouldn't miss it. But - yet you still did.

        Should I write it a hundred times for you. Hoping like acid that it would sink into your brain?

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  2. ahorseback profile image81
    ahorsebackposted 3 weeks ago

    Okay so ,  Here is a debate question everybody ,  but just don't answer it ?
    Hey ..............I know ,answer it yourself ptosis and then  no one can debate the issue before you !

    Collusion equal's
    -Bill
    -Hillary
    -Obama
    -Biden
    -The Dossier
    -Uranium One
    -The DNC

    1. GA Anderson profile image82
      GA Andersonposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      One of us must be confused ahorseback. ptosis asked two questions:


      He then asked that the threat not be hijacked with a "whataboutism", (his word), tangent. So why do you think those questions cannot be answered without a version of "whataboutism" such as you posted?

      Are you unable to address any Trump-related questions without bringing in the Clinton's, or the Obama administration? What does any part of your response have to do with the original questions? They weren't even addressed to an issue that could possibly be Clinton related.

      Without resorting to an attempt at sarcasm, here is how your response reads:

      "Did Trump hire Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort without bothering even a google search?"



      "Did Trump hire Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort  carelessly, even with warnings from Obama?"



      I see you frequently referring to these forums discussions as debates, but debates must be topically defined - or they are just shouting matches, so can you see the confusion I mentioned?

      GA

    2. ptosis profile image83
      ptosisposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      You are compelled aren't you? Like an addiction!

  3. Kathleen Cochran profile image84
    Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks ago

    ptosis:  Good for you.

 
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