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To Foreign Hubbers - What are your opinions about President Trump?

  1. My Esoteric profile image88
    My Esotericposted 7 months ago

    Donald Trump has been President for 14 days now.  In that time he has issued around 14 executive orders, most of which impact the world.

    The American polls show over 50% of America think Trump is doing a poor jobs.

    What is your opinion?

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      ROFLMAO. For a response to that, you just need to read the international newspapers. The EU has totally condemend him. There are marches all over the world to get rid of him. Angela Merkel, the German chancellor has now become the leader of the free world. Iran has imposed sanctions against America.

      Everybody is mocking America and Trump. Fro example...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc

      Chinese prime minister Xi Jinping is now vying for world leadership and took on the mantle that America previously wore. Google his talks at DAVOS.

      Bottom line?

      We in the free world are absolutely gobsmacked that so many people in America actually voted for this  man. Unbelievable.

      You might also like to look at the letter to Trump from the World.

      https://www.facebook.com/Avaaz/videos/1 … 903453884/

      1. Credence2 profile image87
        Credence2posted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Tess, I saw the video and hear the clarion call. Never in the history of the American Presidency has anyone started with so high a level of dissaproval. It is the canary in the coal mine, while conservatives excuse his behavior as one would pick up behind the droppings of an animal.

        I fear for our democracy as Trump, under so much dissaproval will strike out against it in an unorthodox fashion.

        1. Paul Wingert profile image78
          Paul Wingertposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          When you say "President Trump", you're showing respect to the useless POS orange man-baby.

          1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
            TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            SCROTUS (So called Ruler of the United States) and the 45th is now the preferered term. Also the Orange.

          2. Credence2 profile image87
            Credence2posted 7 months ago in reply to this

            That is what he is, President Trump. Within the confines of the current system that I agree to work within, that is who is is. My job is to make that title no longer descriptive of him, sooner rather than later.

      2. My Esoteric profile image88
        My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        My twitter hashtag for Trump is #NoMandateTrump

    2. colorfulone profile image89
      colorfuloneposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      I only see 8 EO's on the People's House website. 
      Where did you get 14?
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … ive-orders

      There's sure to be more, and there needs to be.

    3. CHRIS57 profile image59
      CHRIS57posted 7 months ago in reply to this

      There were few jokes about fromer president Obama, but apparently Mr. Trump is easy prey for European media now.
      http://everysecondcounts.eu/

      Not quite easy to identify here in Europe: Has the whole Trumposarcastica to be linked to long time political framing by the liberal international (you know wording like "humanitarian wars"), or has it to be attributed to Mr. Trump himself and his team.
      Personally i would like to give him a chance, but then: political framing attempts by the Trump administration are dilletant and silly (alternative facts, what is that?)  On one hand, lobbyism has a break, on the other hand Mr. Trump invites all kind money people into his staff. In Russia with much less wealth to spread, this would be called oligarchy, in the US it called "giving the power to the people". 
      Anyhow I tend to give him the first 100 days, there are simply too few results and facts. You can´t even come up with "alternative facts".

      1. Castlepaloma profile image24
        Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        The alternative is to abolish Federal Government and turn it over the majority major decision to the people. State and local Government takes care of the small stuff.

        But no, their abuse domestially and internationally has not hit rock bottom yet. The civil war and world war that we are already into. Must fit in to the UN agenda of the world population of 2 billion people. Fourth World war  will be fought with stick and stones. Or we imprison these greedy banker bastards, the head of the snake.

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          Aaronward1234posted 7 months ago in reply to this

          What???

          1. Castlepaloma profile image24
            Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            If we don't imprison the greedy bankers. The US economy will surely collapse and wars will cost a second depression. Only one % are prepare for this. Like me living far far away.

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              Aaronward1234posted 7 months ago in reply to this

              What are you talking about?

              1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                Go where the money is, that is the source of the problems.

      2. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
        Kathleen Cochranposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        "There were few jokes about former president Obama, but apparently Mr. Trump is easy prey for European media now."

        This fact is probably because President Obama was a dignified, admirable person in his own right, apart from being the president of the U.S.  Trump is not.

    4. Cristian A Healy profile image60
      Cristian A Healyposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      In Ireland, we are very anti Trump. We are signing petitions to make sure he does not come to our great nation. We will march on our streets if he tries and comes here. I understand that nearly every president has had "a connection" to Ireland, and we allow that, but if Trump thinks he can come out with that he is "partial Irish" we will have something to say.

      We have enough issues with our own politics, let alone the POS cheeto that is going to cause issues for all countries in the world.

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      joey2577posted 7 months ago in reply to this

      #im not for trump# he is really putting america down thats all i have to say

  2. Marisa Wright profile image94
    Marisa Wrightposted 7 months ago

    Most people outside American are horrified.

    The parallels with Hitler are astounding.   He was democratically elected and then engineered a takeover of the country from within, using his executive powers. Everyone outside Germany (and many inside) thought he was a joke, just like Trump.  No one realised the extent of his plans until it was too late.

    In Trump's case, I don't think he's clever enough to have such plans, but his entourage does.  He will be the puppet that enables them to realise their vision.

    American is heading for a Fascist government which will go backwards to the 1950's - which is what many Americans want, except that it will have many of the bad aspects as well as the good ones, like discrimination on the grounds of race and colour, a complete disregard for the environment, and a constant threat of nuclear annihilation.

    Which wouldn't worry me, because if America wants to make a mess of itself, it's their business - except that America's behaviour has such a big effect on the rest of the world, and limited nuclear war is probably not possible.

    1. promisem profile image95
      promisemposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Most people inside America are horrified including some of the open-minded ones who foolishly voted for him. That's why his approval rating is now down to 38%.

      Gotta love Russian intelligence. They did a great job of getting him elected.

  3. ahorseback profile image47
    ahorsebackposted 7 months ago

    "Foreign Hubber's "  pay attention .
    To those of you OUTSIDE of the U.S.  , This election will go down as an extremely sobering   history lesson for the national "socialist " like quagmires that most European nations have become , and where other nations that are even newer in origin are headed .         

    Leadership administrations in all countries change  , whether by scheduled elections or by revolutions and coups ,   In America , there is a change or possible change every four years ,   BUT WHAT ALMOST NEVER  HAPPENS in almost all countries of the world  is when the  people of the nation create a "grass roots "movement based upon such as you are watching in America right now .

    The PEOPLE of  of America have risen up to RECLAIM their rightful and constitutional ownership from the stronghold of apathetic drivel that its elected representation has become . graft , corruption , apathy ,  criminal activity ,the  quid pro quo  relationship between business , government and the  "mafia" media  have put a strangled  hold on the democracy in action,  that which America was .

    Whether the American voter is able to release that stranglehold  from it's rightful ownership of the American governing  process  OR NOT is what the " Foreign Hubber's" of the world  SHOULD be watching .   If it doesn't happen AND the American voter isn't able to win  then perhaps the next choice of presidential candidate will !   The point here though  is that "We The People "  are speaking  out in an election process that works better than most countries .    AND THAT IS WHAT THOSE OF YOU  OUTSIDE AMERICA'S BORDERS SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON ,  IN OTHER WORDS , IT'S TOO LATE FOR YOU  --BUT WATCH WHAT HAPPENS HERE !

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      I wonder if you have any conception of just how small America is and how little it matters. There are 7.5 billion people in the world in 192 countries, of which 123 are democracies..

      http://www.borgenmagazine.com/many-democratic-nations/

      America is the world's most powerful miltiary country. That is the only thing she now leads in In every other aspect, she is way behind. And, unless you've actually lived and worked in another country (outside the US military), it's impossible to know how far behind America is in so many ways.

      America cannot prescribe to the rest of the world. Trump does not appear to understand that. The rest of the world was prepared to work with America when she was part of the free world. She is no longer part of the free world, and accordingly the rest of the free world won't work with her

      I know that's difficult for you to understand but the question was what the rest of the world thought of Trump.

      You can't threaten 95% of the world and tell them that they must admire Trump.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image24
        Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        I can concur with this having traveled a 100 countries.

        You can't ask a bigger bully to help you from a smaller bully, because this bigger will beat on you worst. Not my idea of a free world. Best thing US did was stand up to USSR, after that they are the new bully on the block

        It is BRICS turn to stand up to US, on the balance sheet, they are stronger overall.

        1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
          TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Interesting observation. Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa combined are stronger? Never thougth of that. I know that I am totally impressed with what has happened in South Africa during my 20 years absence (despite the locals moaning

          1. Castlepaloma profile image24
            Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            Wondering, is there alot of white slums upraising due to a lack of jobs for Whites? Huge jump forward for the blacks from 20 years ago.

            1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
              TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              I don't know.  I haven't really taken much of an interest, but Cape Town rocks. It is honestly the best city in the world (and I've been to many). Yes, there are occasional racist remarks (on both sides) but it's well inegrated and it is flourishing. I am led to believe that Johannesburg is not in the same position.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                USA should take note of south Africa before they go in the wrong direction. You can't ignore 86% of the non white world population.

        2. Ken Burgess profile image81
          Ken Burgessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          This I concur on, Americans don't realize how weak the country is in relation to most others... blame that on the education system, the media, etc.  our nation dumbs down the people... wants a welfare state majority.
          All that this really is IMO, is the final throws of those people not so enthralled to the propaganda and welfare, the middle aged and older generations that can see things have gone wrong, even if many can't place a finger on it... Trump alluded to it, he honed in on this growing discontent even if he was not an ideal orator or candidate.
          As you said with BRICS, or more importantly the other alliances and agreements which include Russia, China, Iran and others... they are stronger economically, and soon militarily as well, if they are not already there yet.
          The 12 Trillion dollars in new debt, the lack of investment into military and new technologies, no real advancements.  Have set America back while the rest of the world improved.... Russia was on the verge of collapse when Putin took over, now it is stronger economically and thru alliance than the entire EU (without England) IMO, China is the #1 economic and industrial force in the world, and Iran is supplying China with lots of oil and Nat Gas.
          These are realities most Americans are totally unaware of... I doubt one in 1,000 even know what BRICS is, or of the other trade and security alliances between Asian/Persian/Russian states.
          Truth is, most of the rest of the world doesn't care about Trump, or will get along with him like they would any other, with the exception of the states in Europe who have gone so soft, so socialist, they are just waiting for Russia or the millions flowing from the Middle East to come across their borders in enough numbers to finish off their cultures and governments for good.
          Might take a generation for the transformation to complete, be it through immigration or military invasion (from one direction or the other) but should I live another quarter century, the Europe of 25 years ago will have nothing in common with the Europe of 25 years from now.

          1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
            TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            I am just curious if you have ever set foot outside of America, and if you have ever been a citizen of Europe. I am. German.

            Firstly, the reason that education is so high in Europe and Asia is because the government pays for ALL of it. So it has nothing to do with being 'welfare' states. The bottom line is that taxes are supposed to be used to pay for services for the people. The better educated people are, the better decisions they make, the more they invent and innovate. It is the duty of the government to provide sufficient infrastructure so that people can be free to develop the best they can be.

            Next, I don't know why you think that Europe is 'soft.' They have far better facilities and far better technology than America has. They also have a higher standard of living.

            Where do you get your information?

            How many years have you actually lived outside of the USA (not with the American military)?

            1. Castlepaloma profile image24
              Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              About 25 million American have traveled to Canada where only 1.8 million have been anywhere in the middle East. The lack of understanding of a culture and Religion for an
              American,  would be great. The fear of Muslims growth rate worldwide horrified Christians. More people say they spiritual rather than Religious. Then a true democracy would not kill. Yet but both Religions in Religious countries do not have a true democracy. 

              Christain countries rap sheet for criminals, prisons, wars, and homicides would be far greater than in Muslims countries. Making most everything backward.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image88
                Kathryn L Hillposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                what are you talking about?

                1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                  TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  I think he means that America is supposedly a Christian country, but it has more people per capita in prison than any other country in the world.

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                    Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    Also Christians countries have more crime, create more genocides and murders. Muslims are too strict with laws to have this much perverted fun.

                  2. MizBejabbers profile image89
                    MizBejabbersposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    Yes, our regressive drug laws see to that. If the USA ever wises up and legalizes drugs, the prison population will immediately shrink. But with private corporations running prisons, that will be a long time in the future, if ever.

            2. Ken Burgess profile image81
              Ken Burgessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              Tess "Have you ever stepped a foot outside of America "
              This is easy to find out, you click on a poster's name, it will take you to their profile page, where they say something about themselves.  There is a decent chance they will mention a little bit about themselves and what they have done... I believe more-so if they like to discuss politics and events on HP, to give people some idea of one's background and experience.
              This will also take you to the articles they have posted on HP so you can read about their interests, experiences and issues.
              Tess "the reason why education is so high in Europe"
              I wasn't commenting on the education system in Europe, but rather the ignorance and lack of worth while education in America.  The effort to dumb down children in America today, to get them to conform, to learn not to challenge or question, is stunning.  America has "Common Core"  standards testing, schools are graded on how well students test, teachers are told exactly what to teach 'cookie cutter' style and cannot deviate, children today learn how to pick the right choices on their standards tests, and little else.  The bulk of children, not all, there are exceptional schools for the exceptional children or the ones who can afford to pay for private schooling... the other 90% of American children are taught to be well behaved idiots.  An over simplification for a complex system of failures known as our public schools, I admit..
              Tess "I don't know why you think Europe is soft"
              I think Europe is soft because it is being over-run by millions of illegal immigrants flowing from the Middle East, and all your nice social systems, from your proclaimed excellent school systems to your social welfare nets are going to be over-burdened and overwhelmed by this influx of humanity.  But that was not my primary intent of 'soft'... my real meaning is that militarily you cannot defend your own interests, and should Russia, or anyone else choose to come rolling through, they will do so without so much as a speed bump slowing them down if you don't have America's military might there to defend you.
              In the face of either of those threats... Europe has no defense and no recourse it is willing to pursue... and it is why the Europe of 25 years from now will look more like a mix of Turkey, Greece, and some may get even as bad a Syria, than anything it looked like just ten years ago.
              Many Americans are concerned about how bad things may get in our future, no matter what is to come, we are going to have it easy here compared to the tumultuous issues and economic turmoil ahead in Europe's future.

              1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                YOUR QUOTE: America has "Common Core"  standards testing, schools are graded on how well students test, teachers are told exactly what to teach 'cookie cutter' style and cannot deviate, children today learn how to pick the right choices on their standards tests, and little else.

                When I went to college in the USA, it was a joke. Some of the stuff I was 'taught,' I learnt between 1958 and 1964 in junior school in South Africa. I also kept going to the Chair and winning every single quibble I had with professors who kept teaching erroneous information.

                I tell you that because:

                1. The syllabus was set by the government - Dept of Education. And every teacher had to teach kids that.
                2. You could only pass in the next class if you passed the year end exams. Year end exams were on history, geography, math, science (chemistry, biology, physics,) and three languages. If you could't write grammatically or add, you failed and had to repeat the year. In those years, we had the highest standard of education in the world.
                3. Your 'coocker cutter' style asks that students be tested in English (one language) and math from Grade 3 to Grade 8. That's it. I've had this out with more than one teacher and eventuallly it transpired that the real issue was that they (the teacher) had never been taught grammar and werne't so hot at math so they didn't know how to teach it. When I enquried on what the real teaching was, I was told that involved teaching the child to voice his/her opinion, have confidence, etc. 
                4. Finland has the best education system in the world, and along with many European countries, they write exams at the end of the year to an exact syllabus. That syllabus comprises various languages, sciences, and math.

                So, can you please explain to me why it is so incredibly difficult for teachers to teach kids about 10% of what schools in other countries teach all kids, but American teachers can't do. The problem here is not 'cookie cutter' education. It is that the teachers don't have the skills to teach the kids.One teacher told me that she didn't know how to teach grammar because she had never been taught it.

                This method of preparing children to write exams according to a common core syllabus is used internationally in elite private schools. I know that because I attended one. And most countries with high education standards use it.

                You said "I think Europe is soft because it is being over-run by millions of illegal immigrants flowing from the Middle East, and all your nice social systems, from your proclaimed excellent school systems to your social welfare nets are going to be over-burdened and overwhelmed by this influx of humanity."

                I think it's very difficutl when one has been accustomed to living in a humane society to suddenly become inhumane. I firmly believe that all religions need to be eradicated because they are taking humanity back to the dark ages. Most people in Europe are torn between doing the right thing, i.e. being humane to refugees and protecting their own culture. It's a hard one. They will have to make the choice, not so much to stop refugees, but to insist that religion is outlawed.

                I think you might underestimate Europe.

                The UK is another story.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image81
                  Ken Burgessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  To the education debate... I have little to add, it is complicated by unions, and as I said they want a complaint 90%, a relatively uninformed 90% as that is what suits their purposes.
                  As for the other... European nations will not be able to make religion illegal, they will not be able to get the immigrants that are ingrained in Islam to conform at all.  Most of the smaller nations, like Sweden, like Belgium, will be transformed within a generation.  It may be brutally violent, or it may be that they just release control and conform to Islam and Sharia Law.  But it will happen, it is already to late for them.  Germany and others with higher populations is a more complicated matter... and it may be these violent attacks by a hostile Islamic minority that ends up triggering a 'right-wing' backlash.  If you think America is messed up right now... just give it a few years, we'll see how Germany is doing then.

                  1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    I said not to underestimate Europe. These are secular countries.

                    https://goo.gl/wGuS7V

                    The difference is that while America wants to stop terrorism, Europeans want to stop assimilation. Brexist was also about assimilation.

                    Again. don't underestimate Europe.

                    And I did read your profile by the way. You haven't lived and worked in Europe outside the American military base. American military doesn't count because it is still American culture.

                  2. Marisa Wright profile image94
                    Marisa Wrightposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    Are you seriously saying that less than 6% of the population will take over the country and force their religion on everyone else?  That's the percentage of Muslims in Germany - yes, even after all that extra migration recently.

                    Russia is the country with the highest concentration of Muslims in Europe and that's still only 10%.

            3. MizBejabbers profile image89
              MizBejabbersposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              Tess, the reason education in the USA is so weak goes back to the days of slavery, according to an African American high school principal of a school for troubled youth. He lamented to my friend (white) who had a son in the school that during the days of integration, instead of bringing the education of the formerly segregated Black children up to the standards of the white children and holding them to the standards, the government lowered the standards so the Black children would have fewer failures in school. Then they never gradually raised the standards back up. Instead, the brighter kids of all races now compete for public charter schools, public magnet schools and private schools. Being old enough to have lived through those days, I think he may have been correct.
              I know I'm going to catch hell over this, but this had been said in the white community for years. It took an African-American educator to validate it.

              1. Credence2 profile image87
                Credence2posted 7 months ago in reply to this

                It is referred to as the soft bigotry of low expectations....

              2. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                Black educaiton?

                I'm talking about white education.

                Do you know how ignorant white Americans are? Do you know that the rest of the world thinks that Americans are stupid?

                When I went to College in the States, I had to keep going to the Chair because the professors were wrong about dozens of things. I repeated what I had learnt in junior school in the late 50s and early 60s. My daughter repeated what she learnt at high school.

                The university degree in Amierca is equivalent to high school in Europe. The level of general knowledge in white America is non existent. America wouldn't think of herself as the greatest country in the world is Americans had any real knowledge of world history or of the technology in general use outside America. They would hang their heads in shame.

                Oh, yes, and they wouldn't still be believing in mythical gods. America is the only country in the first world were the general population still believes in god.

                1. Will Apse profile image88
                  Will Apseposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  I can understand anti-Americanism, given Trump's election but this is bordering on bigotry. Honestly, Tess, get a bit of balance. Also, try talking to some Americans with a college education. You will find them well enough informed.

                  1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    Oh, you mean the Ph.D who was semi-literate? Yes, I met a whole lot of them. The first time I met educated Americans was when I signed up at G+ Now I know a whole lot of them, and they rock! But they would be considered libtards on Hubages. I can now say that I have hundreds of American friends that I love to bits. They are, however, the exceptions - the top 1% of the population.

                2. MizBejabbers profile image89
                  MizBejabbersposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  Yes, Tess. I was explaining the reason for the diminution of white education in the USA, but I don't think a word I said registered with you. So you were constantly having to correct your American professors because you know so much more than Americans do. Well, coming from one who couldn't understand my explanation (whether or not you agreed with it), I'll bet that went over well.

                  BTW, I've traveled outside this country on a tour with mostly college professors and teachers, and we didn't run into any people who thought we were stupid. In fact, we had some interesting high level conversations, but you wouldn't understand that, would you.

                  1. CHRIS57 profile image59
                    CHRIS57posted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    I don´t want to offend, but i do agree with the comments from Tess.
                    Received part of my education in the US in the early seventies and I can only confirm: College degrees were equivalent to high school in Europe.
                    From my experience that has not changed much in the past decades, only that some of Europe tried to copy the American system and "dumbed down". Though, not much to worry about, "American exceptionalism" takes care that the US stays ahead in this downward spiral. Sad story.
                    Of course people, students, teachers in the US are not less abled or intelligent than anyone in other countries on our planet. But circumstances  make the difference. You may call those circumstances: culture, the culture of learning, education..
                    The US culture holds little incentive for comparison, - the US is a big country, everyone speaks moreless English :-) so why learn other languages - it takes a lot of gasoline to go to other states/counties... so why mess with geography - history: a little over 200 years? One hour in the morning for everything from the Pilgrims to the civil war and one hour in the afternoon for all wars after, who needs to know more - science and computers: thats for nerds and Stanford and MIT - want me to continue?
                    To come back to the topic of president T.: His team is perfectly aware of the educational status of most of his supporters. The supporters have nothing to compare with than TV rants from their favourite channels. Makes them easy prey for "Alternative Facts".
                    Foreign hubbers do have tools to compare, that makes the difference. At least in Europe most people are plain scared of what to expect from Mr. T. in the future.
                    I was willing to give Mr. Trump him his first 100 days. Now i have my doubts: If he takes his alternative facts from biased FOX documentaries about Sweden and causes diplomatic irritations between 2 western countries, what will happen if he mixes Bagdad with Brussels or Belgium (all starts with a "B")?

                3. promisem profile image95
                  promisemposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  The Nobel Prize committees would disagree with you. The strength of the American economy and scientific achievements built on the knowledge and abilities of its people also belie your comments.

                  That being said, I have met plenty of ignorant Americans. I also have met plenty of highly intelligent and educated Americans. I don't think calling all of us stupid because you had some professors who don't know your country is quite fair.

                  1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    There are 336 Nobel prize winners in the USA out of a population of 318 people.Of those 36% were Jewish.

                    http://www.jinfo.org/Nobel_Prizes.html

                    There were 12 Nobel prize winners in Israel out of a population of 8 milion people.

                    The UK has 117 Nobel prize winners out of a population of 64 million

                    That means that .00010% of Americans won Nobel prizes and 00015% of Israelis won Nobel prizes. In the UK, .00018% of Brits Nobel prizes..

                    Basically, when population count is taken into consideration, the UK per capita has won the most Nobel prizes and the US the least.

                    Just because a handful of Americans achieve something doesn't mean that my comments are incorrect. For a country to be fully functioning, all of the people need to be functioning well.

                    I did not approach professors about my country. I approached them about American law, math, science, etc, and in every case, the chair admitted I was right. This included statements made in math books which I said was incorrect, and which the entire math department debated and said I was correct.

                    The Telegraph is the UK's leading Conservative newspaper.


                    QUOTE: When Newsweek set 1,000 Americans the challenge of completing their country’s citizenship test, 29 percent could not name the current vice president (Joe Biden), and almost three quarters could not correctly say why America fought the Cold War.  A National Geographic poll of over 500 young Americans, aged 18 to 24, showed that six per cent failed to locate their own country on a map of the world. Just one in four Americans could name more than one of their rights, while the same number could name all five members of the Simpson family.  In the same group, two thirds of the respondents estimated the population of the US at between 750 million and two billion (actual figure: 298 million).

                    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … orant.html

                    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … orant.html

                    The Daily Mail is the world's leading tabloid.

                    QUOTE: Now it has emerged that 70 per cent of Americans do not know what the Constitution is, and six per cent don't even know when Independence Day falls.  Europe came out on top. Around three quarters of British, Finnish and Danish people could, for example, identify the Taliban but just over a half of Americans could, despite the fact they led the charge in Afghanistan.

                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … untry.html

                    This is from the British Foreign Affairs reviews.

                    QUOTE: The Pew Research Center, in the latest update of its semi-annual News IQ study, discovered that only 7% of the people surveyed could correctly answer all 13 questions posed. The questions, on various topics, covered both domestic and foreign affairs. Only half of the subjects, Americans ranging from age 18 on, with varying degrees of education, could identify Syria on a map of the Middle East. A full 43% could not pick the flag of the People’s Republic of China out of a lineup. A third didn’t recognize the euro symbol. Only two-thirds of the people asked could identify the current Secretary of State, John Kerry. In a world where the United States remains unequivocally the reigning world power, how can her citizens remain so blatantly ignorant?

                    http://foreignaffairsreview.co.uk/2013/ … -ignoranc/

                    Anecdotal experiences aren't evidence, and just the fact that you think it is reveals your ignorance. In order to present your case, you need to provide objective evidence from studies, research, etc. This is what I am doing. I am showing you what the rest of the world sees.

                    Here's the thing. You can think I am slaming America because I hate it?  Not true What I'm trying to do is get you to look at yourselves and get up from where you are and do better for yourselves (and for us). The one thing you do really well is influencing others. And that's the one reason you have to be better at what you do. When you influence the world with ignorance which will lead to our extinction, that is not a good thing.

          2. My Esoteric profile image88
            My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            I am glad you are so impressed with Putin's achievements in Russia (USSR, if he has his way), Ken.  You DO realize don't you that Putin is 1) a murderous dictator who 2) has stripped Russia of all the freedoms it won throwing off Putin's old employer, the KBG, don't you?  Or do you think that is what Trump should do?

      2. promisem profile image95
        promisemposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        I'm as anti-Trump as anyone, but I have never met someone in my travels to other countries (20-30 of them) who hates America so much.

    2. My Esoteric profile image88
      My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Typical #UglyAmerican attitude from a #NoMandateTrump support, ahorseback.  Trump epitomizes that terrible title..

      You are quite wrong ahorseback with "The point here though  is that "We The People "  are speaking" -  the FACT is We The People rejected Trump, by almost 3 million votes. 

      Your "We the People" are the less than 100,000 votes cast in three Blue states which gave the Presidency to Trump.  America as a whole don't want Trump!  He is a disaster..  Further, the "We the People" you are talking about would Never had ratified the Constitution in the first place.

      1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
        TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Just followed you on twitter. @miladytess

      2. MizBejabbers profile image89
        MizBejabbersposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        ME, Have you ever noticed that in grassroots movements, " what We the People Want" really means "what my special interest wants".

    3. Misfit Chick profile image92
      Misfit Chickposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      You have our deepest apologies, world! We don't know what's coming, but we are doing everything we can (protests, lawsuits) in an effort to diminish the harsh affects and restore some balance as soon as possible. We are willing to do whatever we have to do. Prepare for the worst & hope for the best - that's about all we can do for four years. Let's hope we're still around by the end of it.

      America did not elect Trump based on a 'grass roots' movement. While there are a few who voted for Trump because they actually thought he would 'bring change'; the majority who voted for him were already part of a very exclusive (and dwindling) club of misogonistic right-wing Christian-militant racists. (Turns out that we still have misogyny issues across party & economic divisions - its not just a GOP thing. We've learned a LOT about our entire country during this election.)

      Most T-fans have conveniently forgotten past GOP protests. Do a search to refresh your memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw6R-kIX4fA

      NOTICE that racism already existed in that very special club loooooooooong B4 Trump played off of it to win. Basically, Trump used the GOP's own tactics to hijack their political party. It would be funny if it wasn't so unfunny!

      These kind of people have been around since the dawn of time, ha! We thought their small-minded idealogy wasn't something that most people in our country would be impressed with (and they weren't) - so we weren't worried & didn't think Trump had a shot in hell of winning. Boy, were we wrong!

      Yeah, they were already around & won this time because people were convinced that NEITHER candidate was good enough (not true) - so, since so many didn't come out to vote, Trump won kind of by default on a MINORITY of the country.

      That isn't a grass roots movement, that's a manipulative, marketing maniac taking advantage of a weak link in the chain. He's walking, talking fake news in & of himself. I think most of us are hoping that he has enough rope to eventually - and metaphorically - hang himself before he does too much damage or anything irreparable.

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      1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
        TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Applause! Loved the illustrations. smile

        It's called hubris. When some people win, they think they're at the top of the totem pole, and for some reason this affects their ability to see clearly.

      2. My Esoteric profile image88
        My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Are you saying Woman have more sense than men?  (When it comes to Trump ... for sure)

      3. promisem profile image95
        promisemposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Please cut back on the graphics. They slow down the loading of the page and disrupt the flow of comments.

    4. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
      Kathleen Cochranposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      "The PEOPLE of  America have risen up"  Correction:  A minority of the people of America have risen up".

  4. colorfulone profile image89
    colorfuloneposted 7 months ago

    Sorry for the rant but I can't remain silent anymore. I really try not to share my personal beliefs publicly on HubPages, but enough is enough. This last week was been too stressful.

    I can't stand him. His supporters are ridiculous and they blindly follow him. They rally around him. Cheer on his every move. I truly feel he and his "team" have been dishonest in the past and I just can't overlook that anymore.

    Another thing... His wife is beautiful. What in the world does she see in him? Yes he has a lot of money, power, and is rewriting history, but how can she overlook his arrogance?

    I am sorry for airing my dirty laundry in a public place like HubPages, but here it is. I just feel like it is time that someone call out Tom Brady for what he really is. It's time to go down Tom!

    RAISE UP FOR THE DIRTY BIRD!!! Falcons please get it done. It's time to take care of business!

    I felt like we all needed a little tension breaker. Plus...I mean look who I'm talking about LOL

    1. MizBejabbers profile image89
      MizBejabbersposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Colorfulone, Melania may be beautiful, but have you seen her porn videos she made while working illegally in this country? They are on youtube, or were before he was sworn in. To set the record straight, she was here on a legal visa, but it wasn't a work visa.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image24
        Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Wow, saw that sucker go inside her. She was an high end escort too. No video, and a guy got sued for reporting it. Must protect that phony baloney image.

    2. Ken Burgess profile image81
      Ken Burgessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Well done Colorfulone.
      I see from the comments what you were really talking about flew right over their heads... even after you noted the GOATs name.

      I find that most illuminating, some people read your post, and saw in it what they wanted to see, totally missing the most important/critical part.   
      Amazing really, its a great example of how facts can be presented, and then twisted or ignored based on what the viewer wants to see or wants them to be.

  5. TessSchlesinger profile image94
    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago

    The European countries are now making fun of Donald Trump. It's  competition it seems. smile Very funny. smile

    America first, Netherlands Second.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc

    America first Germany second
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSm8Fwuq4cY

    America first, Belgium second.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL09PL-bzbM

    America first. Switzerland second.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuJ8yVCgSM

    America first, Portugal second.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcehg0LG5J4
    America first, Denmark second
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4KSfracI4k

    America first, Lithuania second.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQge_7peOg

    1. My Esoteric profile image88
      My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      ROFLMAO!!!

      1. Castlepaloma profile image24
        Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        It would be super to do that with every country in the world. With all these bragging rights coated with too much sugar, then have a barf festival.

        Really funny.

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image88
    Kathryn L Hillposted 7 months ago

    As the quality of schools increase, drug use will decrease. As we understand human development in the light of natural law and parents and teachers recognize and work with the natural stages of development, rather than fight against them, as is done now, drug use will disappear.
    Drug use is a call for help. Perhaps drug use is a desperate attempt to avoid suicide. Or maybe a way to commit it slowly.
    http://www.emorycaresforyou.emory.edu/r … stics.html

  7. Oztinato profile image82
    Oztinatoposted 7 months ago

    Here in Australia Donald is both a laughing stock and a threat to world peace.
    Only extreme ultra right wingers and Nazi types like him. Same same.

  8. TessSchlesinger profile image94
    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 76056.html

    Germany has just elected an anti-trump president - overwhelmingly.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image24
      Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      The largest ethnic group in America are Germans.

      Ironic that largest amount of Americans killed in a war was war worlds with Germany. This German President wants to overthrow wars and totalitarianism. At lease somebody learns well from their pass mistakes.

      1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
        TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        The largest ethnic group in America are Latinos.  If one's forefathers were from Germany, that a) doesn't make them German currently, and while it may be a national group, it's certainly not an ethnic group. I have to tell you that it irritates the hell out of me that Americans seem to think that their forebears/ancestors define their nationality. It's very simple. One's nationality is the country one is born in, not the country one's ancestors were born in.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ … ted_States

        1.1 million Germans live in the United STates.
        https://www.thelocal.de/20150601/34-ger … -countries

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Are you confusing, or equating, race (latino) with ethnicity (German)?  The two are very different:

          "The traditional definition of race and ethnicity is related to biological and sociological factors respectively. Race refers to a person's physical characteristics, such as bone structure and skin, hair, or eye color. Ethnicity, however, refers to cultural factors, including nationality, regional culture, ancestry, and language.

          An example of race is brown, white, or black skin (all from various parts of the world), while an example of ethnicity is German or Spanish ancestry (regardless of race) or Han Chinese. Your race is determined by how you look while your ethnicity is determined based on the social and cultural groups you belong to. You can have more than one ethnicities but you are said to have one race, even if it's "mixed race"."

          http://www.diffen.com/difference/Ethnicity_vs_Race

          "One's nationality is the country one is born in"

          True, but ONLY if you ignore that immigration (as opposed to sneaking over a border) can and does change nationality - birth place has nothing to do with it. An equivalent term is "citizenship".

          na·tion·al·i·ty
          [ˌnaSHəˈnalədē]
          NOUN
          1. the status of belonging to a particular nation:
          "they changed their nationality and became Lebanese"
          synonyms: citizenship
          2. an ethnic group forming a part of one or more political nations:
          "all the main nationalities of Ethiopia"

          "I have to tell you that it irritates the hell out of me that Americans seem to think that their forebears/ancestors define their nationality."

          Not sure what "Americans" you've been talking to, but all of them I know define their nationality by citizenship.  Even those calling themselves a combination of two geographical areas (African-American, or Mexican-American) are merely indicating their past biological ancestory, not their citizenship.  Or perhaps their ethnicity, if you accept that all citizens of one country are not necessarily the same ethnicity.

          1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
            TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            You are quite right. I was writing in a hurry and my thoughts were somewhat irriated that I had to explain something so basic. My apologies.

            Ethnicity does not have anything to do with nationhood so much as a particular cultural group.

            "True, but ONLY if you ignore that immigration (as opposed to sneaking over a border) can and does change nationality - birth place has nothing to do with it. An equivalent term is "citizenship"

            Nope, two thirds of American immigrants never change their citizenship. I know that when I reapplied for my Green Card at the 10 year mark, I was asked why I didn't take on American citizenship. I didn't respond. Basically because there was no chance I was giving up my German nationality for American nationality. All countries give permanent residence to immigrants initially and after one has been therre a certain period of time, one can apply for citizenship, but it is not necessary. One can be a permanent resident in a country for the rest of one's life and not be a national of that country. For what it's worth, the Dept of Immigration is somewhat concerned that permanent residents aren't becoming Americna citizens. The biggest issue was apparently not being able to pay the fee for doing so.

            "Not sure what "Americans" you've been talking to."

            Somewhere around 5 or 10 times a day, while living in America for 11 years, as soon as I opened my mouth the question was "Where are you from." (Also one of the reasons I eventually left). I would say 'dual German/South African.' The classic response was "Oh, I'm German."

            I wouuld look at this person who spoke with an American accent, was completely culturally American start speaking to them in German, and be met with a blank expression.

            I would eventually establish that their great great grandmother on their mother's side or their great uncle of their paternal grandfather's side was German.

            I would then explain to them that they weren't German, but of German extraction, and that is not the same thing as being German.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              "Nope, two thirds of American immigrants never change their citizenship."

              From a legal standpoint this is likely true.  From a moral one, and a cultural one, it is not: immigrants will end up as citizens.  Those that don't are residents, yes, but have not completed the necessary tasks to be an actual immigrant to a new country and have not become a part of that country.  It is a matter of definition and allegiance.

              Sounds like the key question was "where are you from" which you took to mean where were you personally born.  Most people here treat the question as asking where your ancestory originated, or at least that portion of it you choose to identify with.  Perhaps a result of being a nation that were (virtually) ALL immigrants in the past 200 years.  Technically, then, you are correct - colloquially you simply didn't understand the question.  There is more to learning a language than learning dictionary definitions, and in a country the physical size of the US, with it's wide variation in ethnic groups, learning the local "language" is far more important than studying the dictionary.  I grew up in a small town in Oregon, and when I moved to the east coast it was like moving to a different country.  I not only could not understand the accent, but the very words meant different things!

            2. Castlepaloma profile image24
              Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              Wiki and census bureau say 46 million Germans. Where Latinos come from different countries.

              One time before European Mexican tribes was the largest ethic group, but they got ripped off too. The true American natives and Americas were once 5 time the population of Europe with Mexico city still with more population than any city in Europe.

              1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                No, wiki does NOT say that there are 46 million Germans in America. It says that 46 million claim GERMAN ANCESTRY. Do you understand the difference between being a German and having German ancestry.

                I am German. I have a German passport. I can go and live and work in Germany and I can live and work in any European country because being a German citizen means I am also a part of the EU. I can vote in Germany. My German citizenship also passed onto my daughter because she has a direct German parent. However, her children will not be able to claim German citizenship unless she goes to live in Germany and her children are born on German soil.

                Having German ancesters (grandparents and before that) does not make on German. It means one's anestry was of German extraction.

                QUOTE FROM WIKI:

                The German American ethnic group (German: Deutschamerikaner) consists of Americans who have full or partial German ancestry. With an estimated size of approximately 46 million in 2014, German Americans are the largest of the ancestry groups reported by the US Census Bureau in its American Community Survey.

                In the 1670s the first significant groups of German immigrants arrived in the British colonies, settling primarily in New York and Pennsylvania. Immigration continued in very large numbers during the 19th century, with eight million arrivals from Germany. Between 1820 and 1870 over seven and a half million German immigrants came to the United States — more than doubling the entire population of the country.

                ****

                Let me repeat what I have just said. The fact that one has German ancesters does NOT make one German. Americans are NOT Germans. They are Americans. And America does NOT have 46 million Germans live in America.

                People in Mexico do not consider themselves Spanish because their forebears came from Spain. People in Australia do not consider themselves British beause their forebears came from the UK. People from South Africa do not consider themselves British, French, German, Portuguese, Greek etc. beause their ancestors came from these countries.

              2. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                With regard to your population figures, you need to do some serious reading.

                There are somewhere around 740 million people in Europe and there used to be about 10 million indignous population in America.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populatio … e_Americas

                I also have no idea what Mexico being the biggest city in the world has to do with the fact that people in the rest of the world think Trump is a complete moron/idiot and that he is a danger to civilization.

                You're just nitpicking, looking for anyway to discredit me. That's not possible - I'm too well educated and too bright. I also don't have a need to be right, and if I am in error, can freely admit that. My goal is NOT to win an argument (ever). It is to establish what is factual.

                So please explain to me how any of your comments relate to the fact that throughout the world Trump is considered stupid, fascist, bizarre etc. And the only people who like him are neo-nazis, dictators, etc.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                  Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  Trump claimed racism when a American born Mexican judged Trump and Trump did not like the judgement.

                  I too have a strong background in arts and historical museum displays worldwide. From being to 100 countries. Then study on location of actually sites then taking in both the white man version and the written and stories pass down of idgenious version who are more accurate because they live it.

                  Kinda like how Americans military do body counts of Muslims kills and how Muslim do their own body counts. US general state they don't do body counts. Columbus was not really so pretty, when I had him in our pirates Museum in Florida.

                  1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    Terrible when someone so badly wants to be right about something that they aren't even logical anymore. I'll leave this for now.

                2. promisem profile image95
                  promisemposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  In my experience, people who say they are "too well educated and too bright" don't worry about being right. They firmly believe they are always right.

                3. GA Anderson profile image83
                  GA Andersonposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  "...I'm too well educated and too bright. I also don't have a need to be right, and if I am in error, can freely admit that. My goal is NOT to win an argument (ever)."

                  Oops!






                  Help me out Tess, it sure looks like you are keeping score, so which am I supposed to believe; you, or my lying eyes?

                  GA

        2. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
          Kathleen Cochranposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Largest Ethnic Groups And Nationalities In The United States
          Rank    Ethnicity or Nationality    Share of Total Population
          1    German    17.1%
          2    African American    14.6%
          3    English, Scottish, and/or Scotch Irish    12.6%
          4    Irish    11.6%
          Wikipedia

  9. TessSchlesinger profile image94
    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago

    http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13411151.jpg

    Had to upload this because it's so apt.

    Only people who have never grown up with wealth think that rich people behave like he does Only people who aren't particularly intelligent think this man has a brain. And only people with very weak characters think the 45th is a strong man. They confuse being  a bully with being a strong man.

    1. Credence2 profile image87
      Credence2posted 7 months ago in reply to this

      This is a classic description of Donald of Orange.... Fabulous

    2. My Esoteric profile image88
      My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      :-)

    3. Oztinato profile image82
      Oztinatoposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Perhaps we now have the term "orange fascism" in our attempts to pin down what's happening.

  10. Onusonus profile image86
    Onusonusposted 7 months ago

    If foreigners hate Trump so much, why are so many of them trying so hard to get into our country?

    1. My Esoteric profile image88
      My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Remove the refugees and I wonder if that statement is correct anymore.  In the two years of the Obama administration there was a net decrease in both legal and undocumented immigrants from Mexico.

      Only an estimated 170,000 undocumented people entered the US across the Southern border; they included a large segment from Central America and Asia.  Mexicans made up a smaller portion

      http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol … /91280026/

      And #NoMandateTrump wants to spend $20 billion to reduce the 170,000 somewhat.  It might have made since in 2005 when illegals amounted to 1.7 million annually.  The number of illegals have steadily decreased during the Obama presidency.

      1. Onusonus profile image86
        Onusonusposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        We spend 99 billion dollars on illegal aliens every year in this country. If you don't think that's a problem then you are living in fantasy land.

        1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
          TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Please provide your source for that ludicrous garbage.

    2. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Nobody is trying so hard to get into America. There has been reverse immigration into America for some time. That means more people are leaving America than arriving.

      Next, the only people that have been trying 'so hard' to get into America for the past 20 years are the people who come from third world countries. That's not a compliment. People who come from first world countries are NOT trying desperately to get into America. They have a better quality of life and a higher standard of living in the rest of the first world.

      You have millions of Latinos (the third world). You do not have millions of Australians, New Zealanders, Swiss, Austrian, Italians, Brits, etc. (Well, not this century, anyway.)

      When one lives in America, the only accents one hears are American and Latinos.

      When I live in London, every second accent is from another country in the world. In London, the entire Temp workforce is comprised people from other countries.

      Next, Trump has only been in power for a month. Please provide me the figure that say that in the past month, America has been swamped with new arrivals.

      You might also consider that only a third of LEGAL immigrants take up American citizenship. They prefer to remain permanent citizens.

      More people leaviing than arriving.
      https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/us/m … finds.html

  11. Will Apse profile image88
    Will Apseposted 7 months ago

    Not wishing to be controversial, but studies in the UK have found that white working class boys are the worst performers in standard educational exams at age 16.

    Every other ethnic group outperforms them and girls of every ethnic group outperform the boys in their group.

    http://www.suttontrust.com/newsarchive/ … d-results/

    Is it the same in the US? And (knowing that this is a bit of a leap) could this explain Trumpism?

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      I'm curious as to why you think this is. Why would 16 year olds from working class families perform badly. Obviously it can't be genes. So it has to be something in the environment. Would it be the value system?

      1. ahorseback profile image47
        ahorsebackposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Careful ! you're dangerously close to being a confirmed sexist .....

        Seriously , Anyone that looks closely at TRUE  statistics , fact , crime stats , incarceration numbers , the justice system , the education system KNOWS what your saying is pretty true.

        America has been  dumbing itself down for  a generation or two and claiming success  all the way to the bottom .

        1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
          TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          ??? How does a question asking someone else about a statement they made make me sexist? The statement was about classes, not gender.

          Your quote: "KNOWS what your saying is pretty true."

          It's 'you're saying' not 'your saying.' You're means 'you are.' Your means something you own.

          Your quote: "America has been  dumbing itself down for  a generation or two and claiming success  all the way to the bottom."

          Succinctly put. America, the UK and South Africa are all doing that. Other countries may be as well, but these are the only countries I have a good knowledge of in that regard.

      2. Will Apse profile image88
        Will Apseposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        I don't know why it is. Some possibilities:

        A curriculum that does not engage working class boys
        A culture of resistance to education that is perceived as offering nothing
        Macho BS (only wimps work hard at school)
        Lack of parental support
        Lack of confidence in kids from homes where books are a rarity
        Poor resources/poor teachers in poorer areas
        Bad health and nutrition among the poorest groups

        I was a working class white school boy fifty years ago, but my father had a well paying unionized job, so there was none of the chronic insecurity that stalks the lowest quintile, these days.

        1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
          TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Those reasons would be the same reasons in the UK and the US. Would you say it's a combination of those reasons and not one of them specifically? Looking throught them, that would be my take.

          The most important question would be how one corrects that? And if it could be done in under a generaiton?

          1. Will Apse profile image88
            Will Apseposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            I don't have the answer but increasing children's security would be my priority.

            In the US, for example, evictions are common place.

            The majority of poor renting families in America spend more than half of their income on housing.

            A study in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which has 105,000 renter households, found landlords evict roughly 16,000 adults and children each year. That is one in eight renters. There is no data for the US as a whole (who cares after all) but it suggests a big problem.

            In the UK, a million children live in bad housing, with damp leading to routine respiratory illnesses, increased risks of meningitis, TB, mental health issues etc. Poor housing is a big indicator for poor educational attainment.

            Very low wages are at the bottom of all this. In the US, denying people who could never afford private health care, a state provision is just incomprehensible.

            1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
              TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              Yes, I think you are right. When I left the UK in 2003, it was a very different country to the one I returned to in 2014. It was following American guidelines, and the country was heading into a downward spiral because of it.

              The bottom line is that despite the fact that we have different perspectives in terms of politics, without giving the poor equal opportunity (which means equal resources), the more poor people there are the more a country sinks into chaos. That is now what is happening in both the US and the UK.

            2. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              "A study in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which has 105,000 renter households, found landlords evict roughly 16,000 adults and children each year."

              Out of curiosity, what do landlords do in the UK when renters stop paying the rent?  Leave them alone until the bills overcome the rent payments and lose the complex to banks?  Stop making all repairs/upkeep to keep income in line with expenses?  go homeless themselves to save a few dollars and make up for lack of rent payments?  What do they do?

              I'd be really surprised to find that over half of people living in poverty pay over half their income for housing.  REALLY surprised as people at that level of income get housing at very little to no cost to them.  Can you back up the statement?

              1. Misfit Chick profile image92
                Misfit Chickposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                Work out the numbers for yourself... What does 40 hours at minimum wage pay (or even a little better) bring in? Even with two people working? Add in another part-time job paying minimum wage on top of that and what do you get a month for rent, bills, food, etc. What about if you have kids?

                What is the average rent in your area? In Seattle, it is well-over a grand a month for a studio or 1-bedroom. If your family needs something bigger, forget it. Now add on health insurance. I've lived paycheck to paycheck in the past with a full & part-time job at the same time. Lucky me, I don't have any kids. Not sure what I would have done if I had.

                Not everyone who is 'poor' is that way because they don't work. Want them to get an education to get a better job? More money... And sure there is 'help' out there, but gosh there are a LOT of people who resent helping anyone else out...

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  Aren't you forgetting something?  Like EBT, section 8 housing subsidies, school lunches, medicaid, utility subsidies, EIC and all the rest of the "income" available?

                  You might want to work out the numbers yourself.  Including ALL of the cash and other help coming in, instead of forgetting to include half (or more) of what a poor household has available.

                  Rent in my area is less than a grand...for a 3 bed house.  Apartments are, of course, cheaper.

                  And when you are through figuring out that it isn't nearly as bad as it sounds if you ignore half the income, then answer the question of what a landlord should do when the rent doesn't cover the costs.  Should (s)he evict those not paying or demolish the housing they are in?

                  1. Misfit Chick profile image92
                    Misfit Chickposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    That isn't even SORT of the case in Seattle at far as rent goes, LoL!

                    You would not BELIEVE how many poor people in this country are too PROUD to take govenment handouts; and many TRY to live without it and barely succeed. Those are the ones with multiple jobs who have no life; but pay their own rent & put their own food on the table. Many MANY homeless people actually HAVE jobs.

                    Try to think beyond your 'every poor person is lazy' ideal & really figure it out... How would a poor family get by without handouts? How DO so many of them get by? Most importantly, how does it hurt you to help?
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              2. Will Apse profile image88
                Will Apseposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 … ing-crisis

                http://www.forbes.com/sites/troymcmulle … 1221e6d183

                You could have found this stuff with a search. As I said low wages are at the bottom of the eviction problem, though government indifference and lack of action are implicated too.

                These figures indicate that for millions of people in the US, life is a very insecure business.

                For an assessment of the impact of poor housing on children in the UK:

                https://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/a … report.pdf

                If you want a realistic glimpse into poverty in the UK try this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9aSp9bFmMg&t=1388s

                The kids are wonderful, their situations grim. You can see why school is a low priority.

              3. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                Margaret Freaking Thathcher sold off public housing and the Tories (conservatives) continued to sell off public housing. So there is very little public housing left, and people in the UK (as their American counterparts) struggle with affordable housing. If you make the effort to read British papers, you will find that affordable housing is an enormous issue. Plus the homeless are increasing every day.

                Will Apse is correct when he says low wages are at the bottom of the problem. And at the bottom of that problem are excessive profits, excessive CEO and executive management pay, plus low taxes for the mega-rich. Both the USA and the UK flourished when taxes for the top .00001% was 90%.

  12. Buildreps profile image93
    Buildrepsposted 7 months ago

    Most people are preoccupied without knowing anything about the issue. Give Trump a chance before you judge him. Democracy had its say. Just wait and see.

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      ROFLMAO

      You mean that we ought to ignore all our knowledge of psychology, how things are organized, fascism, totalitarianism, incompetence, etc. and somehow wait for this completely fraudulent moron to somehow magically turn into a fairy god mother?

      Time to take your meds.

      1. Buildreps profile image93
        Buildrepsposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        A typical reaction of a superficial fool with the brains of a rabbit who thinks to know everything better. Everyone should get a chance. Even you. But you've said already enough superficial things on this thread.

        1. My Esoteric profile image88
          My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          We watched #NoMandateTrump for two years campaigning for and now four weeks being President disgracing himself and our nation.  He didn't change his ugly behavior when he became President.  His actions while president, just like in his campaign, has or will do great damage to citizens of America and, to a lesser degree the world.

          Now he has begun his version of ethnic cleansing by deporting every undocumented immigrants (well maybe only those with Latino heritage) ICE (his Brown Shirts) can lay their hands on.  He might as well ship the Statue of Liberty back to France, his America doesn't deserve it anymore.

          And yes, enough information has come out that convinces me there is a HIGH likelihood Trump is president because of the machinations of Putin and the partisanship (or naivete) of FBI director Comey.  They needed to only convince less than 0.6% of three formerly Blue states to either not vote for Clinton or vote for Trump.

          He Has Had His Chance and he failed!!

          (Notice how I did that without insulting you once, compared to at least four from you; (now here is my first) no wonder you support Trump, you sounded just like him)

        2. Misfit Chick profile image92
          Misfit Chickposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Trump has had many chances to apologize for his rude, disruptive pre-election behavior. He's had lots of time to work on building bridges & mending the fences he plowed through. He's had all kinds of opportunities to say things that build unity instead of his much more common egotistical, immature and oftentimes hateful, LYING rhetoric on Twitter of all places.

          There are so many things he could have said & done to smooth things over between his rabid, brainwashed supporters and the rest of us. But, he doesn't even bother to try. I have two theories as to why he doesn't:

          1) His ego doesn't need the entire country to support him. It just needs to hear the few, the spiteful, the LOUD... I think its why he continued to do rallies after he was elected; and its probably why he did the one in Florida, recently. After all the opposition since he started flying EO's off his desk without barely taking the time to analyze anything... He was probably feeling pretty beaten up & in need of an ego boost - and to make sure the wild & crazy sound of support from his sheeple hasn't dwindled.

          2) It is the way whomever is pulling his puppet strings wants us to be manipulated. There has been more than one time when I have thought, "No one is that stupid to say that obviously-manipulative thing and get away with it..." Its like he intentionally set out to make the divisions in this country as deep & wide as possible; and continues to do so. There is not a bipartisan thought in his brain - which would be okay, if he had 'the majority' backing him. But heck, many people in his own party can't stand him and would gladly be rid of him. Pence is a much better choice from their perspective, I'm sure.

          Trump supporters insist that they voted for him because he would bring the changes they wanted. But, we could have brought in someone capable of making these imperative changes WITHOUT the inspiration of a manipulative, hate-normalizing candidate. It wasn't his policies that impressed you - other GOP candidates had similar positions.

          You like Trump for 'telling it like it is' - apparently, your interpretation of his most ugly statements. You admire him for his non-PC rants (cuz who the hell cares about respecting other people); and isn't it impressive that he can whip up the kinds of reactions he does from both media & the individuals around you - and that 'everything other than what comes out of my mouth is fake news' tactic has worked like a charm!

          Trump doesn't act the way a POTUS should act. He doesn't represent us as a nation because he sure as hell doesn't respect (or even acknowledge) the long list of people he has directly & indirectly insulted, offended or lied about in some way. He has no desire to 'make nice' or do any helpful thing at all to restore some balance between the dividing lines. That alone should be a huge concern for his supporters. Are your neighbors your enemies? You obviously think so...

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        3. TessSchlesinger profile image94
          TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Wow! Anyone who thinks Atlantis is real and speaks about mythology as if it's fact cannot be taken seriously. I do not for one moment believe that you have a Ph.D in either maths or enginering. That's probably why you don't give your real name. Nobody can check. Anyway, I'll just dump your remarks where they belong. In the trash can.

          That said, would this article from Politica be sufficient to prove otherwise? Or are they fools as well? When people question the prevailing wisdom of fully accredited sources to the extent that your denial does, then you're the problem - not us.

          "After four straight administrations marked by seesaw leadership and erratic diplomacy, each of which weakened, albeit in different ways, perceptions of U.S. reliability and leadership, it was always going to be hard for a new President to restore trust and confidence."

          "But now, as a consequence of four weeks of President Trump’s heresies and insult-driven diplomacy, it seems fair to say European confidence in America has reached a new low—a loss of confidence so profound that it may soon be extremely difficult to reverse."

          "But coming as they do after 16 long years of European longing for a return to respected American leadership of the West, they are far more destructive."

          "The dangers come when European governments develop an expectation that they can no longer rely on the United States. Will they make future decisions about sanctions on Russia based on a weakening NATO? What about the united European stance against Russia’s insistence on acceptance of its “sphere of influence” in former Soviet territories? Will a loss of confidence in American leadership change how France or Germany answer that crucial question?"

          "At the same event, foreign ministers from Russia, China and Iran were putting forward a more troubling premise. Each in their own way asserted that this year marked the end of the “West” and the onset of a new era for Europe and the wider world. Their analysis was surely premature and self-serving, inasmuch as those countries have been making similar points for many years now. Tragically though, unless something changes, this time they may be right."

          http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ … est-214807

          The question of this hub was what foreign hubbers thought of Trump. Well, they think the same as the rest of the world - that Trump is an ignorant, stupid self serving moron.

        4. Castlepaloma profile image24
          Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          She does jump around like a jack rabbit. I Bet if she had a race with a tortoise turtle like me, she would loose.

          In sports, arts and history, I won several international awards. My point being based more on experince. Is that we live in an over ego world where over competition harms our true natural nature of structuring ourselves with cooperation. I say the nobel prize is fixed or the deck is stacked in favor on who writes the history books and sets the judgement stage. Each race has had their empire and fallen, No multi cultured has lasted longer than the Chinese as they will return as the 21 Century super power.

          This jack rabbit/race horse Trump all you need to do is study his pass and you will see where he is going. No need for extreme logic.

          1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
            TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            It's called an Ad Hominem attack. People who indulge in it do so because they cannot win in an argument using factual information.

            So call me a brainless rabbit all you like - not a single one of you has brought evidence to dispute what I say. And I find it very useful that all these people who have supposedly won awards and have Ph.Ds don't use their real names. People who are genuine use their real names because they have nothing to hide. They also have the courage of their convictions. Also people at that level in society don't contribute to hubages.

            Your time would be better spent disproving what I say with factual evidence from reputable sources. But you can't do that, can you?

            1. Castlepaloma profile image24
              Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              Don't disbute majority of your facts. When more of your thinking is like a Jack rabbit. Not downing you, rabbits are among the brightest, not questioning your characture.

              You do somethings better than me and vice-versa. This turtle has done more diversity reserch and fact checking  about historical rewards, punishment and natural history, thats all.

              Good thing I dont do drugs. Although....Pot on a blue moon is very nice.

            2. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

              "Your time would be better spent disproving what I say with factual evidence from reputable sources."

              You mean like when you say that "...that Trump is an ignorant, stupid self serving moron."?

              Every person is ignorant in most fields, and Trump is no different,  In other fields he is very well educated, and has demonstrated that quite well.  Trump is obviously not a moron, even to the most hate filled speaker:

              Moron:
              Psychology. (no longer in technical use; now considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.

              Trump is demonstrably not such a person, which in turn means that the accusation is an Ad Hominem attack:

              Ad Hominem:
              ADVERB
              (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

              Perhaps your own claims should be a little better researched, or presented without the superlatives that make them a lie?

              1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                Saying something about someone else is NOT an ad hominem attack. We are speaking about a public figure. An Ad Hominem attack is attacking the character of the person you are debating with. I am NOT debating Donald Trump. 

                Trump inherited his wealth. The Art of the Deal was written by someone else who admits that most of it was his own knowledge. Trump has gone bankrupt repeatedly. He is vulgar and cannot speak in a grammatical sentence. He can't read. The list just goes on and on and on. Nobody saw him in a class at Wharton. His degree was bought for him by his father.

                There is something seriously wrong with Trump's lack of intelligence. His parent's money got him a lot of places. And the dictionary defines moron as a stupid person. He is.

                http://www.dictionary.com/browse/moron

                So I don't know where you got your definition from, but it was NOT from a dictionary. I suspect you were looking at the etyology. Do you know what that means?

                The reason you're all attacking my character is because you cannot disprove a single thing I am saying. There has been no research, no statistics, no articles from recognized accepted sources in the rest of the world to counter my contention that Trump is recognized outside America as a stupid, ignorant, warmongering, vulgar peasant with too much money.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                  Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  You make me feel glad, I moved off this continent. Will miss Canada when it's taken over by the US.

                  1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    ROFLMAO...

                    US taking over Canada?

                    Definitely take your meds.

                2. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                  "Trump inherited his wealth"

                  Of course he did.  All 4 Billion of it.  We both know better.

                  "Trump has gone bankrupt repeatedly"

                  The large majority of entrepreneurs also go bankrupt.  As a vilification of Trump, then, it doesn't mean much except that he is willing to get up, dust off and make another go at it.  A terrible thing, yes?

                  "He can't read."

                  Do you actually have proof that Trump is illiterate, or is this just another gross exaggeration to "prove" another non-existent point?

                  "His degree was bought for him by his father."

                  Do you have that contract agreement, or even his transcripts showing poor grades?  Or is it another gross exaggeration to prove another nonexistent point?

                  "There is something seriously wrong with Trump's lack of intelligence."

                  Do you have the examination records of an accredited psychologist, or is this another gross exaggeration to prove another nonexistent point?

                  "So I don't know where you got your definition from, but it was NOT from a dictionary."

                  How odd!  The quotation I gave came from the very same dictionary you give a link to.  It is the second, psychological, definition.

                  "The reason you're all attacking my character is because you cannot disprove a single thing I am saying."

                  Except that, unlike you, no one is attacking your character.  Only your grossly exaggerated statements - statements you cannot prove.  I assume you do realize that it is up to you to prove that Trump is a moron, uneducated without an earned degree, etc.?  That simply making the statement does not make it true until disproved?

                  "There has been no research, no statistics, no articles from recognized accepted sources in the rest of the world to counter my contention that Trump is recognized outside America as a stupid, ignorant, warmongering, vulgar peasant with too much money."

                  There has also been no research, statistics, articles from recognized accepted sources to show that he IS a "stupid, ignorant, warmongering, vulgar peasant with too much money." either.  Granted that the perception of the average Botswanian may be that, but once more that does not mean it's true.  It only means that that person has not bothered to fact check his beliefs. 

                  Or is it just unsupported opinion that you are reporting from the rest of the world?  While "peasant" has a pretty well accepted meaning, the rest are simple opinion, and are all relative attributes, not absolute values.  "Ignorant", for example could mean that he doesn't know how to grow a turnip and "vulgar" simply means that he doesn't use the same gracious terminology as you do - that he comes from a different culture and one that you have labeled as vulgar.

                  1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 months ago in reply to this

                    QUOTE: Donald Trump is the Mussolini of America with double the vulgarity.

                    https://goo.gl/3vFjPz

                    QUOTE: Donald Trump's well documented misogyny and vulgarity disqualifies him from being received by Her Majesty the Queen or the Prince of Wales. Therefore during the term of his presidency Donald Trump should not be invited to the United Kingdom for an official State Visit.

                    https://goo.gl/laLAii

                    QUOTE: What is surprising, however, is how and when it happened. And that it was a person like Trump who was able to profit from their deep disappointment -- a vulgar billionaire who plays people off against each other.

                    https://goo.gl/5A2YPe

                    QUOTE: They are simply unable to believe that this vulgar oaf, this groping slob, this idiotic demagogue could have a chance against their Hillary.

                    https://goo.gl/BWSrpV

                    You might be unwilling to accept that Trump is vulgar and a conman, and I cannot help that.

                    I'm not going to continue conversing with you because you haven't said one thing that in anyway ties up with a reputable source, and I only accept evidence based information.

    2. MizBejabbers profile image89
      MizBejabbersposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Buildreps, I think you misspelled a word. You said "Democracy had its say." I think you meant "Democracy had its day."

  13. writejt profile image82
    writejtposted 7 months ago

    If we consider the world to have passed through, Archaic period, Middle ages, Machine Age, Atomic Age, Space Age and Information Age, to reach the present, the future can undoubtedly be termed as The Age of The Irrational. Things like banning mini skirts, warring over cartoons, unthinkable wins or losses could occur more frequently.

  14. Nell Rose profile image90
    Nell Roseposted 7 months ago

    Well I come from England, and whoever wrote that Merkel is the leader of the free world is wrong. Well not England! we shut her down big time. I call her Mad Merkel, so we brits shut the darn doors on her! lol! We found it an insult to think that Germany was trying to take over the whole of europe when we had two world wars to stop them.

    Anyway, sorry going off the subject, but there was a point. I think that the reason why you all voted Trump as president was because we did Brexit. They thought we were going drastically to change the way we had been treated, so by voting Trump you all hoped for the same thing.

    And to be honest? I think you all should give him a chance! Why? Because all the ones recently you voted for, you are all moaning about now. Obama did this, or didn't do that and so on.
    Give him a chance, people seem to be jumping on him before he even started properly.

    1. MizBejabbers profile image89
      MizBejabbersposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      "you are all moaning" No, Nell, we ALL didn't put him there. Trump didn't win the popular vote, our screwed up electoral college system did. I'm proud to say that I didn't vote for him. Love you Brits, and I think you showed great courage not letting Germany continue to push you around in the EU.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image24
        Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        2nd that. 

        Wait til the screaming and body parts hit the floor, here. Already watching it oline in the middle east.

      2. My Esoteric profile image88
        My Esotericposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Great courage maybe, but at what economic and political cost to England.  Brexit is the fallout from the rise of the alt-Right in Europe.and Trump is the fallout from the rise of the alt-Right in America.

      3. Nell Rose profile image90
        Nell Roseposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Sorry MizB, didn't mean to say people were moaning, I meant they were saying stuff about Obama being wrong in so many ways. so maybe a complete change is needed.

  15. ibuh benhar profile image60
    ibuh benharposted 7 months ago

    In that time he has issued around 14 executive orders, most of which impact the world.

  16. Podfather profile image59
    Podfatherposted 7 months ago

    He should try "Glamping" might chill him out smile sorry new blogger couldnt help myself !!!

  17. Titus Mutea profile image60
    Titus Muteaposted 7 months ago

    Education in reality is more detailed than human mind can fathom! It is like the art of trying to understand the human mind which is rather very complicated! The link between man and woman/boys and girls in thinking is very interesting also.More is yet to be discovered!!

  18. shuaib yusuf profile image61
    shuaib yusufposted 7 months ago

    i think the president needs to unite his people instead of spreading the hatred, divisions and many other ideological administrations. every citizen deserves the right to be loved, cared, and welcomed.
    thank you.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image24
      Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Great idea, this system and Trump are uncapable of this.

  19. Titus Mutea profile image60
    Titus Muteaposted 7 months ago

    may be Americans who elected him saw something of value and potential.All the same, things are getting even more difficult in 21st century! Trump had no past experience in politics and may be he has difficult time fixing this with what he knows better-business!

  20. Aime F profile image85
    Aime Fposted 7 months ago

    I think he's a narcissist, a liar, and a shameless manipulator.  I think that by dismissing his opponents as "fake news" and keeping things very divided between the left and right he's setting himself up to be the ultimate authority on truth and righteousness, and his supporters are just eating it right up.  I just watched a documentary on a cult the other day, in a way it kind of reminds me of that....

    That said, I live in the most conservative city in the most conservative province in Canada and I see lots of people here who adore him.  I don't think it's very representative of Canada as a whole, which is largely a left-leaning country, but I see it often enough that I fear the same aggressive divisiveness will start to happen here, too.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      Is it possible that between Brexit and Trump we will see more and more countries where the people being to demand that government respond to them[/] and [i]their needs and wishes rather than the desires of the politically powerful?

      Just a thought...

      1. Castlepaloma profile image24
        Castlepalomaposted 7 months ago in reply to this

        Always for smaller Governments, the larger Governments the worst they are. Countries are better off separating to Govern themselves better rather joining a NWO to further the wealthy and create greater poverty.

        1. PhoenixV profile image81
          PhoenixVposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          The should do a 50 million dollar government study to settle the question of which is better : more or less government .

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 7 months ago in reply to this

            That will pay for just one researcher for one day.  It's worthy of at least 2 people for a week - don't forget that coffee breaks DO take time!

  21. ahorseback profile image47
    ahorsebackposted 7 months ago

    Guess what , in todays divisive  fake" leftstream" news media ,  real  Americans don't care what other countries  feel about our choice of president !     Clean up your own political kitchens and then criticize America's ,  And America will still be there to defend you when you call .

 
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