Could we be seen the rise of a Christian version of Taliban?

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   peter565posted 9 years ago

   Could we be seen the rise of a Christian version of Taliban?
   
   The recent events surrounding gay marriage, prove there are Christians that are just as much of a extremists as the type of people you expect join the Taliban. There was even many Youtube video of them accusing Obama as the anti Christ and yell at him angrily during his public appearance, with slogan similar to the Taliban (only the Taliban yell "Allah" these Christians yell "God" or "Jesus") They keep yelling the law of the church should be above the law of the state.  After the supreme court legalized gay marriage, they spread rumor saying "The great Christian persecution is coming"

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   Jay C OBrienposted 9 years ago

   Yes, see Hub, "The Rabbis, Jesus and Infanticide."

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      peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Check out these video some Christian extremists post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv9yMoVVCLU  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5lQq0VSM0

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   Terrexposted 9 years ago

   I'm afraid that the Taliban isn't known for accusing people for being the anti-Christ or 'angry yelling' or just 'spreading rumors'.
   The Taliban is a terrorist organization that murders men, women and children in the hundreds of thousands through beheadings, shootings and bombings, slaughters innocents who disagree with their assertion that Sharia law *is* the only law of the land in cold blood, rape children, poison girls who go to school and want to kill or convert all non-muslims to Islam.
   There are much more potent and evil dangers in the world right now than a possible 'Christian version of the Taliban', and the migrant crisis is proof of that.

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      peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      But do you believe there will be a group of Christians that start going all terrorist to get what they want, too?

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      Terrexposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      No, at the moment I cannot foresee Christians taking the line the Taliban is taking in terms of murder and rape.

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      peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      

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      IslandBitesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There are, around the globe, there are. Just as violent and dangerous as any fundamentalist group.

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      Terrexposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There are? 'Around the globe' where?
      'Just as violent' so they are  beheading and slaughtering thousands, raping thousands of little girls, are they?
      Pray tell who these devils are of whom you speak.

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      IslandBitesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. Maybe you should read. Uganda, India, China, Norway, US... Just to mention some.

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      Terrexposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I do read, and have been to most of the countries you mentioned - there have been no reports of any Christian groups murdering hundreds of thousands in any of those countries.
      Please, at least name these terrifying groups so we can check on them.

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      peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      To be fair until 1980s, the Catholic church in Ireland use to throw women into Catholic prison for life, for been unwed mothers and kidnap other women that engage in pre marital sex in Europe, to be thrown in Catholic prison for life.

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      AnnaMKBposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Since when did Catholics have their own prisons?

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       peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       It was formally called Catholic church home for unwed mothers, but it was really a prison.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT9acJg5yRU

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       Jay C OBrienposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Could we be seen the rise of a Christian version of Taliban?  Yes, there could be another Spanish Inquisition.  See Hub, "The Rabbis, Jesus and Infanticide."  Lamb & Lion Ministries is an example.

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       peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I believe we should go into prevention. start by using education to change how the next generation think, so they won't be extremists. For now, the US can suppress emergence of Christian Taliban, via force, but not forever.

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       Terrexposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       To be fair, victims of the Taliban would flee for the homes run by the Church.
       I am still waiting for IslandBites's evidence for Christian groups murdering hundreds of thousands around the world today as claimed, but I think it won't be forthcoming..

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       peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       A bit more info for you Terrex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpHkkWhQ7sw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ud7_FELN1w   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olFjeWHhuaM  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc3lsoVq9H0

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       Terrexposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Just so I don't waste a few hours - are any of those vids going to show me hundreds of thousands of people being slaughtered by today's Church on it's way to becoming 'the new Taliban'?

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       peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Please check it out yourself and form your own view on the topic, here is a bit of extra info http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-06-18/a … ed-mothers

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       Terrexposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       So I guess not a single one of those vids is going to show me hundreds of thousands of people being slaughtered by today's Church on it's way to becoming 'the new Taliban'.
       Still waiting on IslandBites's support of his wild claims.....

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       peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Some of the fate of the people in this video, under the church is worse then death

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       Jay C OBrienposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       See Hub, "Judge not and you will Not be Judged."  3 ministers take the position their deity kills people and religious war is justified.  It is this teaching to which I object.  This teaching leads to violent action.

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       Terrexposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah, that 'worse than death' fate is common in areas under Taliban rule.
       Well, at least, we now all acknowledge that the Church is not killing humdreds of thousands on its way to becoming 'the new Taliban'.

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   Greensleeves Hubsposted 9 years ago

   Wherever religious fundamentalism rears its head, extremism follows. It's only to be expected. If people have an absolute conviction that they are right because the Buble / Quran tells them they are, then they will not listen to any other arguments, however strong the evidence. Likewise, if people believe they have a calling from God, then in their minds that trumps anything ordinary mortals - presidents, judges, the public - say, or any laws they pass.
   
   I have no doubt that there are people in America who would absolutely behave like the Taliban if they had a chance, but fortunately such extremists - particularly violent extremists - are few in number. Unlike the Taliban, the most extreme of Christians in America have to put up with living in a democracy in which there is free exchange of views, and therefore the absurdity of their claims and pronouncements can be challenged in debate. The majority of the population will always take a more rational approach.
   And the system of Government in the U.S is both stable and powerful - no fringe group can take control in the way they can in some Middle Eastern countries.

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      peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I just came across this video, some of these thing Christian international adoption agency did is horrible, it is really human trafficking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufmQygpOhn0

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   Ilonagardenposted 9 years ago

   No. People get passionate about religion and politics, that is common knowledge, so it doesn't "prove" anything. That a person might be violent, no matter what their creed ? That has always been the possibility. But to ascribe "jihadist" tenets to Christianity is simply not supported by even the most cursory look into what the religion teaches.
   
   So, no, a difference of opinion, no matter how vehemently held does not translate into a version of the "Taliban".
   
   Whether Christian persecution is coming or not is a completely different matter. Historically, there are persecutions of Christians, some going on today.
   
   I doubt if this could be connected logically to the Supreme court ruling on gay marriage. What could be connected is a previous Supreme court ruling which did away with first amendment rights pursuant to practicing religion (thus the legislation seeking to restore such rights).
   
   People yelling at politicians has been a well loved American institution for as long as I can remember.

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      Jay C OBrienposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Do you believe Joshua was justified in killing Canaanites, women and children included?  Ask a Baptist minister.  What do you say?

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      peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I saw a disturbing video online, further evidence supporting the coming of a Christian version of Taliban https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL2hVXeibsQ

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   RTalloniposted 9 years ago

   Just because a person or a group of people says they are Christian does not mean that they have any understanding of what being a Christian is or how to respond to others according to the faith of Christianity. Stereotyping people individually or corporately is always unwise. Accusations like this against Christianity are based on no true experience with it.  Those who do not agree with Christianity are free to disregard it in free societies, but a little experience with disregarding the taliban in those countries would literally make one's eyes roll.  If taliban law were in this country, as some are hoping to bring about, everyone disregarding it will be lined up together, Christians not excluded.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 8 years ago

   No, because Christians haven't been violent except for the few cases of kings adopting it to bolster their claim to power.
   Islam in contrast was founded as a political structure / religion, with the governmental structure penalizing you a hundred ways for not being Muslim (higher taxes, lower status in court, inability to own a weapon for self defense), as well as a religion that mandates the creation of Shariah states to enforce the religion (killing those who leave the faith, pushing people to join).
   
   So no you won't see a Christian Taliban in modern society, though it can't prevent a dictator from using it as a figurative fig leaf to justify his actions. But until Islam reforms to renounce its right to rule over everyone else until they submit (the definition of the word Islam) and contextualizes the violence as for the past only, yes, we will see more Talibans, Boko Haram, ISIS, Aceh Indonesia's local Shariah law, repressive regimes like Saudi Arabia's government and Iran's, etc.

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