Putin Power , Fueled by American Leftists ?

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    ahorsebackposted 18 months ago

    There is no doubt that Putin and any Russian conspiracies against America and the western world  have been given exorbitant amounts of power by Trump obstructionists in his American resistance ?

    Collusion , Yes , from democratic sheep  , TDS is a potent US enemy ?

  2. Live to Learn profile image82
    Live to Learnposted 18 months ago

    You know, I've wondered about Putin and the left. When you think about it, he was a KGB agent in the Socialist Republic. He kind of wields the same power the socialists did. Why wouldn't he be weaving little webs, working toward bringing socialists to power here.

    I wondered about Hillary screaming 'the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming'. Something about that always seemed so off.  Like she was trying to redirect our attention away from something else.

    1. peterstreep profile image77
      peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      The USSR was never a socialist contry, but a detictatorship ruled by the elite. Today, Rusia is a kapitalist country just like the US.
      There are living more millionairs in Moskow then in New York.
      Thats why Trump and Putin are good friends, they are both Millionair capitalists who only care for the elite to stay in power.

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        ahorsebackposted 18 months agoin reply to this

        That sounds like Antifa talking  .

        1. peterstreep profile image77
          peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

          Who is Antifa?

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            ahorsebackposted 18 months agoin reply to this

            I guess if you have to ask , there's no use explaining ?

            1. peterstreep profile image77
              peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

              I guess you ment Anti fasicist (I had to google it)
              And my question is. What is wrong with being anti-fascist?

      2. Live to Learn profile image82
        Live to Learnposted 18 months agoin reply to this

        LOL. I get it. When socialism doesn't work and shows the natural course attempts to implement socialism takes....We rename it so we can pretend the failure never happened.

        Gotta love the blind.

        1. peterstreep profile image77
          peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

          Nope, you should look up what the term socialism means. Definately not Stalinism.

          1. Live to Learn profile image82
            Live to Learnposted 18 months agoin reply to this

            You should accept the fact that a capitalist and democratic system implementing social programs it can afford is the only viable option. Socialism has always devolved into tyranny. Name one where it didn't.

            1. peterstreep profile image77
              peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

              I do Live and Learn. I'm a social-democrat. Which means I support a society based upon democracy with a representative vote system and social programs and laws. Like Germany, Holland or Sweden. Rich countries that have implemented socialist ideas.
              And indeed the USSR was a tyranny, so is China and Venezuela. And that's why you could not call the USSR a socialist, or even a communist country. It was and still is a Tyranny. Socialism and communism was hijacked in 1929 when Stalin came to power. End of experiment.

              1. Live to Learn profile image82
                Live to Learnposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                We need to be clear and honest. Otherwise, the kids think socialism works. As history has shown, it always devolves into tyranny. You naively claim it was hijacked. Such naivety is dangerous.

                1. peterstreep profile image77
                  peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                  Yes we should be clear and honest. Meaning telling kids what socialism means and telling them what kapitalism means. These are both complicated concepts. And you have them in a lot of different flavours.
                  There is a huge difference in how Trotsky saw communism as Lenin did, or Stalin. Stalin was simply a dictator and changed the concept of communism into elitism. dont call me naive Live to Learn. And again I agree with you naivity is dangerous, and kids should get the best education and tought properly about these concepts.
                  To me both systems work best when they are together.

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                ahorsebackposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                Antifa has evolved into a political protest machine spouting anarchy .  They destroy property , mask their  political intentions and identities equally . They don't belong in America .

                1. Live to Learn profile image82
                  Live to Learnposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                  They've evolved into the brown shirts of Germany.

                  1. peterstreep profile image77
                    peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                    Live to learn dont you think that to compare the antifacists with the SA a bit over the top.....
                    Please be carefull with your choise of words. Sentences like these contribute to a simplistic political debate, without nuance.

                2. peterstreep profile image77
                  peterstreepposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                  Does America not stand for freedom of speech?

                  1. Live to Learn profile image82
                    Live to Learnposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                    Yes. That's why the Antifa brown shirts are so deplorable. They seek to stifle it.

 
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