Can # Metoo Please Do Better than Julie Swetnick ?

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    Ed Fisherposted 12 months ago

    Dr. Ford is just a little better but if were going to play this "poor poor women's rights war ", can we just get a little more real ?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      You had to go here.

      Fine:

      Who holds out the stupid apple in probably most cases. Young female human adolescents love attention from the opposite sex. At fifteen, the hormones are stronger than logic and override appropriate functioning of the brain. This fifteen year old, as a diver, knew she was in good physical shape. Swimmers and divers at that age have truly breathtaking bodies. She probably had been flirting around.

      Furthermore, Ford had her full-piece swim suit on. She was protected by that suit, even if he had wanted to go further, which he probably didn't. He was showing off for his friend ... acting. As boys do at that age. They love to impress their peers.
      What kind a kid was Bret? typical?

      Its hard for me to believe the boys were hiding in the bedroom near the bathroom waiting for a poor unsuspecting female; like a couple of spiders waiting for a fly. Hard to believe that what they reportedly did was premeditated.

  2. Live to Learn profile image80
    Live to Learnposted 12 months ago

    Reality and believability does not appear to be important to the left. They are the 'if you don't have anything good to say about someone, come sit by me' party.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

    "poor poor women's right war ..."


    Whats even worse is what Catholic priests have done to children/boys.

    The more I contemplate what those priests have gotten away with over all these years WITH NO CONSEQUENCES, the more outraged I become.

    The #Metoo movement pales in comparison, if you ask me, which no one ...

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

    A child trusts an adult. The adult who takes advantage of that trust and takes advantage of his HOLY position is truly EVIL.  But the child is in awe of this person and wants to please him.

    A woman is the same as a child? She is in awe of the man she is dealing with? ... she cannot walk away with her big long adult legs? or refuse to take one step toward a casting couch? Or step away from that big black car, or JUST SAY

                                N O ? ? ? ? ? ?

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

    So, Ford a sleek athletic girl, couldn't have run down the stairs before being whisked into the bedroom?

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

    Apparently we women need protection from evil men. I am all for women who cannot deal with a coeducational society to go and create their own well protected/guarded domed community.

    I would rather work out my strong legs and carry a gun than live in there.
    And look in the mirror to practice saying this one word:
     
    mad N O !

  7. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

    Maybe in the future, when sexbots are legalized, men don't have to worry with real women and all their phobias, flip flops and mixed messages.
     
    Well, that was a bit trollish ...


    Its a sad issue.

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    Ed Fisherposted 12 months ago

    Kathryn , I agree with everything you said and I am a gentleman  who's always been in awe of women , but somewhat disappointed since the seventies about women who don't seem  worthy of the kindness'. Today not many appreciate a door holder ,  a tire changer or a friendly innocent smile in for one in return .       I'm actually a dinosaur Kathryn , a gentleman in a world of men and women I  truly don't understand . Neither seem interested in anything but selfish agendas and modern  meism's.

    Besides that , Dr. Ford seems  righteous enough but can't remember  details she should remember . The rest seem to be just whackos .  So far I don't see a thing wrong with Kavanaugh except  he was too nice to the senate .

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Can you imagine one of the Knights of the Round Table waking up with a tremendously long white beard and witnessing this era?

      That would make an interesting story.

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        Ed Fisherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        All I know about a knight is that he would immediately go get a prescription for sleeping pills .

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          lol! lol! lol!

          To refresh you memory regarding Knights:

          Code of Chivalry

          To fear God and maintain His Church
          To serve the liege lord in valour and faith
          To protect the weak and defenceless
          To give succour to widows and orphans
          To refrain from the wanton giving of offence
          To live by honour and for glory
          To despise pecuniary reward
          To fight for the welfare of all
          To obey those placed in authority
          To guard the honour of fellow knights
          To eschew unfairness, meanness and deceit
          To keep faith
          At all times to speak the truth
          To persevere to the end in any enterprise begun
          To respect the honour of women
          Never to refuse a challenge from an equal
          Never to turn the back upon a foe.

          http://www.medieval-life-and-times.info … ivalry.htm

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
            Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            A true knight would get out his sword and get to work!

            - or maybe not, on second thought ...

    2. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

      Of, course, jail time must be issued to all evil men and women who sexually force their will over men, women or children.

    3. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

      That would make a good thread: (or a good title for that story.)
      "Modern Meisms"
      smile

    4. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

      The Me-too movement for men is called,

      The Blues.

      ... been around a long long time.
      women joined it too.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aRnzKDiIS0

    5. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 12 months ago

      This thread is highly disturbing. Holey Moley....

      1. profile image0
        Ed Fisherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Go elsewhere .

        1. PrettyPanther profile image85
          PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          LOL, why, so you can continue your "poor Brett/what's wrong with women these days?" circle jerk in peace? No way.

          1. Live to Learn profile image80
            Live to Learnposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            You may have experience in the 'circle jerk' (as you call it department). It's a little low, for the average person. Well, the average conservative, anyway.

            1. PrettyPanther profile image85
              PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Context and comprehension. "Average" is too flattering for what's happening in this thread.

              "Circle jerk is a synonym of echo chamber, where people (such as your Facebook friends) reinforce each other’s opinions."

              Of course, if you thought I meant the other definition, that's a bit weird and solely on you.

              1. Live to Learn profile image80
                Live to Learnposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                I'll hold you to the same standard the left is holding Kavanaugh and deem your statement perverted and disgusting. Reflecting on you, not me. Fair enough?

                1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                  PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  Lol, if it makes you happy. I didn't invent the alternate definition, though, unlike Brett did for two different terms. I know that's good enough for you, though. Trump defenders have a lot of experience rationalizing lying liars.

                  Of course, I'm not a Supreme Court nominee, just a person on a forum, but I've come to expect this odd expectation Trump defenders have of higher standards for a forum dweller than for POTUS, and now for a SC justice.

                  1. Live to Learn profile image80
                    Live to Learnposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    I'm rationalizing you. If you call yourself a lying liar I'm not joining in on that. The definition I am holding you to has been around a lot longer than the one you are attempting to divert attention to. You will have to accept if you held one to the more heinous of the two you will have to be held to it.

                    That fair. Whether you like it or not.

                    1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                      PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                      Um, read again. I did not invent the alternate definition (a copy and paste). Brett did invent his. Tell me again how I lied and he didn't?

          2. profile image0
            Ed Fisherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Not about "women these days"  but woman these days .   You have to be biased against the ideology of Kavanaugh to believe at least two of them , Ford was far too vague about far too many questions ,  and number three is just plain  lost in  her own  land of weirdness .

            This isn't about women . It's entirely about obstruction of due process .

      2. Aime F profile image83
        Aime Fposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        I mean, all the signs were there... you don’t even have to read the posts, you probably could have come to the same conclusion just by reading the usernames.

        1. Live to Learn profile image80
          Live to Learnposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Yep. I always attempt to stand against those who prefer lynch mobs to reason.

        2. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          ...and yet you did (read the posts)!

          1. Aime F profile image83
            Aime Fposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            What can I say, I’m a masochist.

        3. PrettyPanther profile image85
          PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Pretty much. It's still highly disturbing. I thought this was 2018, not 1918.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
            Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Sorry its too much for you. I bet it was more fun in 1918 than 1972!
            (But I doubt it. I had a blast! No regrets!)

            1. PrettyPanther profile image85
              PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              I had a blast, too. Drank, partied, didn't assault anyone is try to take off their clothes...oh, that's right I'm not a boy.

              Except, wait, boys of good character didn't do that, even when drunk.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                The only thing we know for sure is that he drank. We all drink.
                We are all of bad character, then.

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  He should be nominated because he shows great character now.
                  What has he done as Judge that would disqualify him?
                  ANYTHING?

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    Lying under oath does not show great character.

                    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                      He might not have lied. Who can say for sure?

                2. PrettyPanther profile image85
                  PrettyPantherposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  We also know for sure that he lied under oath.

                3. Aime F profile image83
                  Aime Fposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  Sure but there’s “bad character” like you had too much to drink and threw up on your friend’s dog or you were so drunk you thought no one would notice you cheating at charades, and then there’s “bad character” like holding another human being down against their will and trying to undress them. That kind of “bad character” isn’t alcohol’s fault.

                  1. wilderness profile image94
                    wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    I think you're right.  Do we know of anyone that did that, or are we assuming that because a woman made the claim that it is true?  There is a whole world of difference between assuming truth and KNOWING truth.

                    1. Aime F profile image83
                      Aime Fposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                      If it’s not true then the point still stands, perhaps I should have left out the specifics. Let’s pretend I said some other hypothetical form of sexual assault and avoid the “he said/she said” argument which I am ever so tired of.

                  2. Live to Learn profile image80
                    Live to Learnposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    No one, but Ford, claims any memory of the party or the incident. Why can people not get through their heads that a person making an allegation has to have some semblance of evidence?

                    You people are happily ruining a person's good name with nothing but your desire to do it.

                    1. wilderness profile image94
                      wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                      "Why can people not get through their heads that a person making an allegation has to have some semblance of evidence?"

                      Not if it will aid in keeping a conservative or Republican off the Supreme Court.

                    2. Aime F profile image83
                      Aime Fposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                      So sorry, I retract my vague comment which surely played such a large role in ruining someone’s “good name.” Are you okay now?

    6. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

      About
      "Circle Jerk" is a pejorative slang term referring to a positive feedback loop which occurs when an idea, belief or meme that is already customary within an online community becomes re-iterated and rewarded in a perpetual cycle, giving rise to redundancy, clichés and karma whoring. This phenomenon is typically observed in communities consisting of self-contained forums devoted to specific interests, beliefs or subcultures.
      Origin
      The term "circle jerk" was initially used to describe a sexual practice in which a group of men masturbate themselves or each other while sitting in a circle. The earliest known use of the term dates back to 1979, when the Los Angeles punk band the Bedwetters renamed their band to the Circle Jerks after one of the band members found it in a dictionary of English slang words. While there are digital footprints of its usage on Usenet newsgroups[15] in the 1980s and 1990s, "circle jerk' largely remained an offline slang term.[16]

      copy/paste from someplace on the internet

    7. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

      Justice equals allowing Judge Kavanaugh to be nominated. No one is nominating Bart O'Kavanaugh!

      - as a tadpole becomes a frog
      or a caterpillar a butterfly ...
      'Bart' is no more!

    8. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

      What's in YOUR journal before and just after graduating from high school?
      Beer chugging contests?
      Coed skinny dipping in someone's backyard pool or mountain stream?
      Inviting someone to listen to tunes in the backseat of a car?
      "Picking up" the opposite sex at movie theaters, bowing alleys and parties?
      Beer/ wine/ pot parties on the dunes?
      Moon-lit nights of grunion hunting on the beach?
      Unchaperoned weekend camping trips in the mountains?
      Easter week in someone's beach house with all your best friends?
      Romping around with new friends on a quiet mountain road with a view of all the city lights down below?
      Traveling to places far away for music festivals where everyone was doing mushrooms, peyote buttons, pot ...?
      Hooking up in tents on Hash ... ?
      Leaving with someone who says they love you for a weekend getaway and not telling your parents where you were for 48 hours ... and getting away with it?
      Playing strip poker in tents high on THC?
      Playing frisbee anywhere and everywhere after multiple tokes?
      Going to a strangers house and getting tied to the bed with ropes, crying, being let loose and never mentioning it again ... realizing is WAS YOUR FAULT that you went to the person's house, alone, in the first place?
      Accepting a ride, while walking, and being driven up to the mountains against your will, when a little voice inside your head had warned you not to take that ride ...
      again, crying, being let loose and never mentioning it, knowing quite well that YOU were the stupid one?

      1. Aime F profile image83
        Aime Fposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Mhmmm so what has to happen for a woman to be absolved of her fault in being sexually assaulted?

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          She has to analyze HOW SHE GOT HERSELF IN THE PREDICAMENT!
          pre·dic·a·ment
          prəˈdikəmənt/Submit
          noun
          1.
          a difficult, unpleasant, or embarrassing situation.
          "the club's financial predicament"
          synonyms:    difficult situation, mess, difficulty, plight, quandary, muddle, mare's nest; informalhole, fix, jam, pickle, scrape, bind, tight spot/corner, dilemma, can of worms
          "how did you ever get yourself into such a predicament"

          1. Aime F profile image83
            Aime Fposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            So... nothing. Because she shouldn’t have been existing in that time and place at all!

            I hope my daughter never finds herself existing in the same time and place as someone like you, either.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
              Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              If she does, she better have the tools she needs to deal.

              - one of them being HONESTY.

    9. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

      Repeating
      What has he done as Judge that would disqualify him?

    10. profile image0
      Ed Fisherposted 12 months ago

      That's the problem , Dems have sacrificed elections because of constant LIES ,  sacrificed elections for phony outrage , ARE sacrificing mid terms for their  disconnect with  honesty .

      Figure it out Dems !

    11. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image94
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 months ago

      Women have every right to not remember anything about a party which likely never happened, and for the sake of monetary gain and political fame. They've also got every right to all manner of derision and political fallout for their devious behaviors.

      I support all women, and all humans having the right to make very bad decisions, and to get what comes to them for them.

    12. profile image0
      Ed Fisherposted 12 months ago

      I've noticed liberals go on for days nit -picking the finer details of Kavanaugh testimony yet ignore just as the media does , the vast amount of Kavanaugh support going on .  Letters from high school attendees , college ,  law school ,  his judgeship days , law clerks , hundreds perhaps thousands of letters and supporters .   NPR the other day gave numbers , yet go ahead and google up Kav. supporters and all you'll see are those who support Ford .

      What a biased media and an extraordinarily naive opposition party the left is , clearly it is divided down party lines but wow ,  just stop the lies Democrats , you've lost ONE MORE OBSTRUCTION  BATTLE and clearly Kavanaugh will be confirmed .............

      At Issue  ?   Hey better go get those abortions soon ?
      Really , what a joke !

      1. Live to Learn profile image80
        Live to Learnposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Off I thought Kavanaugh was waiting to get on the Supreme Court just to deny a woman choice, I'd be against him

    13. profile image0
      Ed Fisherposted 12 months ago

      Seriously .........., DO WOMEN really think the SCOTUS is going to reverse the Roe vs Wade, After 50 years ,  and 60,000,000 frivolous abortions on demand ,  is that all there is to the depth of democratic obstruction ?

     
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