Jim Acosta , the rudest reporter ever to enter the white house press room? Will no longer be in the white house , is this a harbinger for the media bias in America or will they double down on bias , inciting of hate ?
Perhaps reporters will learn to ask questions they would like an answer to rather than make a political speech, using the white house as their platform.
+1. And maybe in the process one sided individuals will learn the difference between reporting and grand standing.
Don't hold your breath. First, a reporter must inform the world how evil and wrong the president is, then ask a question. I particularly like the "have you stopped beating your wife?" type of questions. Even a child can recognize the fallacy in that one.
The press corps is behaving no differently than it has with previous Presidents. The only difference is Trump, whose fragile ego cannot withstand the scrutiny given every President since the formation of our country.
He called Jim Acosta "a terrible person" for doing his job. He, once again, called the press "the enemy of the people." He has no courage and lacks the character to face normal questions with grace, dignity, and humor. Take a little time to view videos of Reagan, Obama, and both Bushes answering questions from the press and you will be reminded of how a man of decency, intelligence, and character reacts to difficult questions. Yesterday's press conference was a disgrace, just another reminder that our President is a childish bully who can't handle what every President before him did.
I thought a reporters job was to report the news, not make political speeches degrading the President. How silly of me!
How did he degrade the president, exactly? How is his behavior any different than what has occurred since presidents took to a podium? The only difference is the behavior of the thin-skinned man-child who can't handle anyone questioning his conduct. He is an embarrassment. The press does what they do and have been doing it since there were reporters to ask questions and presidents to challenge. The only change is Trump, who cannot handle a challenge with dignity and class, only bullying and petulance.
Go back and listen. Nothing but accusations, with no real question. An honest person can hear the difference and recognize it.
I watched the video.
"Why did you characterize it as such [an invasion] and do you think you demonized immigrants in this election to try to keep....?" The question was not completed because Trump interrupted him, then off they went on a tangent that ended in Trump having an unseemly meltdown.
I know y'all get off on the angry tough-guy behavior, but it is evidence of a man who can't handle a little bit of adversity without childish bullying.
An honest person would admit that behavior just like Acosta demonstrated has played out hundreds of times in the past over many years with many presidents and other politicians.
Trump's behavior? No. Presidents before him had maturity and the strength of character to not come unglued over a challenging question.
Consider how hilarious that is, the media, except for FoxNews handled Obama with kid gloves, and ALWAYS showed respect for his office, save for this instance perhaps. And look how well Obama handled it...
Meanwhile, Trump gets hit with idiotic questions every day for two years like:
"People say you are worse than Hitler, what is your response?"
"You are accused of raping a 6 year old girl, and keeping her in a cage in the White House, what is your response?"
"You deliberately stir up racism and hatred against the American people, what is your response?"
That's sound, respectful questioning there, he tolerates it I believe only to show the American people what idiocy he has to contend with daily, and how true his statements about the media, particularly the likes of CNN are.
Okay, that video is an hour and a half long. Is there something specific you want me to look at because I'm really not interested in watching 90 minutes of an old presser.
What I did glean from the few minutes I watched is that Obama could speak with knowledge in great detail about the subject at hand. How refreshing to be reminded that presidents used to have depth and intelligence and the ability to convey a nuanced position, believing his audience has the ability to comprehend a complex thought.
Anyway, do you not recognize that the questions Trump receives are prompted by his own behavior? A migrant caravan is not an invasion; you can't lock 'er up without a trial, and calling the press the enemy of the people is right out of Stalin's playbook.
But, of course, that has nothing to do with what kind of questions he might receive in response to such behavior, right?
Actually its 34 seconds long.
The rest of your post is just bias and rancor.
Huh, that is not what came up the first time, but anyway I saw firmness and anger but no personal attack like "you are a terrible person" and no declaration that the press is the enemy of the people.
I don't think Obama's behavior in that video comes close to Trump's childish name calling.
One reporter, on one day, behaved in a disrespectful way to Obama, and he lashed out rather well.
Almost every reporter, every day, lashes out at Trump, or Huckabee, or anyone in the Administration, daily... I think they handle it very well.
Obama at his finest:
Do you really think only one reporter challenged Obama in eight years?
As far as what Trump endures from teporters, it is in response to what we Americans endure from Trump. Multiple lies per day; intentional divisiveness; attacks on the press, law enforcement, our allies; and that's a very short list. If you're going to dish it out, you better be able to take it. He loves to dish but can't handle the resulting blowback, just like the bully that cries when he gets hit back.
Intentional divisiveness... attacks on law enforcement...
Are you talking about Obama or Trump?
Why are you disingenuously asking that question? You know I was referring to Trump.
I did not, because some of the things you are attributing to him, he never did, but Obama did.
an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.
"in 1546 England had to be defended from invasion" · [more]
an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
"stadium guards are preparing for another invasion of fans"
an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.
Want to try again on that "the caravan is not an invasion" thing?
Of course it's Trumps fault Acosta exhibited such poor behavior - that he used his time for speech making rather than asking a question and then refused to give up the mic in order to continue that speech. No one is responsible for their behavior: if it is poor, it's Trump's fault! Right?
Where did I say Acosta's behavior was Trump's fault?
"do you not recognize that the questions Trump receives are prompted by his own behavior"
I thought that was rather plain...
Oh, come on, you're smarter than that. If Obama states "if you like your health care you can keep it," and that turns out to be false, then the resulting blowback is a response to his false statement. What form that blowback response takes is fully the responsibility of the person responding.
Some people here apparently have no eye for manners , surprise there , Acosta would have been banned from Obama's white house on day one had he treated Obama the same way , Trump was way , way to kind to CNN and Acosta .
Should have banned him over a year ago .
Acosta IS WHATS WRONG with CNN ratings V.
Aw, you voted for the name-calling bully to lead us and now you're worried about manners. How adorable!
It is your media that has created the Trump false flag in satan's image , listen to any white house press core meeting and tell me ---------------No never mind , Prettypanther your problem is that you know I'm right , won't accept that because of your ideological hatred and likely lack of political depth .
There is a difference, one is a President.
The other is a schmuck of no import who has a gig with a worthless media station.
One deserves a modicum of respect, even if you despise him, for his position alone. You respect the office if not the person.
The other is someone who if he can't behave, and can't be respectful, deserves to be thrown in jail, or at the very least, banned from ever being a public nuisance in the White House again.
Do you believe his behavior was any different than the behavior exhibited by many reporters over many years with many different presidents? Reporters vie for questions because they know there isn't time for all of them to get their questions in. This is commonplace knowledge and commonplace behavior. In another setting it would be considered rude. In the setting of a press conference, it has been accepted behavior for many years. Trump is the only president to not be able to handle it with maturity and dignity, in modern times at least.
So you demand better behaviour from the “schmuck of no import” than you do the President?
Of course, that's how it works, in business, in government, in society at large.
I don't imagine you would grandstand, and attack your CEO at your job, even if you thought that person were a jerk. I don't imagine you would berate a Judge who is deciding your case. There are situations where showing respect, and acting civil is expected. And when you don't act civil, you pay the price for such stupidity.
So... you can act like an idiot to your CEO, or berate and belittle a Judge, or you can be argumentative and accusatory with the President and even assault his aid in the process... you can do those things, and any punishment, reprimand, or costs are well deserved.
I might not call out the CEO of my company if they were an asshole, but being the CEO doesn’t give them a right to be one. And the only thing stopping me would probably be the fact that I’d lose my job if I did it. If I was an outside participant who noticed that s/he was being an asshole and I had the opportunity to tell him/her they were behaving like one then, yeah... I would. The fact that my job might be less important than theirs means absolutely nothing. People don’t get unlimited and unquestioned respect just because they’re a leader - that’s a dictatorship.
But they do if they're critical to the business you work for...and Trump is absolutely crucial to a network trying to interview him or ask questions of him.
And if you refuse to show that respect, heartfelt or not, you will be looking for another job. Which that idiot is doing now - even if he stays with his current employer he will not be doing it in the white house.
Well I guess it’s a good thing I’ve never found myself in a position where it was necessary to be a kiss-ass, because I refuse to accept that someone deserves respect based strictly on their job title. If a person does something to lose my respect it is lost regardless of whether they’re a homeless person or king of the freaking world.
Trump supporters score very high on authoritarianism and orient toward social dominance. I personally score very low on both and I suspect you do, too.
These traits are demonstrated by certain positions in this thread.
Its not dictatorship.
You have to respect a Judge in his court, even if you hate his ruling.
Or you can disrespect him, insult him, and go to jail.
If in the military, you have to respect the rank of your superior, even if you think that person is a jerk.
Or you go to jail, or are dishonorably discharged.
And you show respect to the President, the office, the position, even if you think that person is deplorable.
This is common sense stuff, this is what ensures our society remains intact, that positions of authority work, be they civilian or military. Or else we have anarchy, ignorance, violence, etc. without order.
I’m not talking about the decisions that people make as a part of their job or rebelling against orders given to you by authority.
You can respect a decision that a judge makes but not respect the way he carries out the proceedings. You can respect the action or the consequence without respecting the person.
I don’t buy for a second that someone who shows no respect to someone else can demand it in return because of their job title, regardless of what it is.
Authority can exist in a way that welcomes feedback and criticism. Being authoritative is always more effective and productive than being authoritarian.
But the President didn't disrespect him, he answered his question, even though he probably thought it a stupid one, and then he answered another one from the same jerk, and then the jerk thought he could keep on going.
You are defending an imbecile who does not belong doing that job, no matter what he thinks of the President he was unprofessional and disrespectful to the position, to his fellow reporters, and to the Aid that was trying to do her job. Trump is President of the U.S. of A. and you do not disrespect the office. If you do, you should lose your job and never be allowed within 200 feet of the white house or the President again.
I’m actually not defending anyone personally. I was responding to your rationale that someone with a less important job should show someone with a more important job respect regardless of the circumstances.
But for the sake of arguing this particular case, I don’t think anyone could say with a straight face that Trump has shown any ounce of respect for anyone that works in the media.
I understand what you are saying.
But if you take the job of being a reporter, sent to the White House, to ask questions of the President, it doesn't matter whether he shows respect to the media, to your company, or to you...
Your job is to respect the office, get your questions answered, and then sit down and let someone else ask questions. You are not there to get in a argument with the President... he is the leader of the country, whether or not you like it, he is not some guy in a bar you can start an argument with. Even if he acts like it sometimes, that's his prerogative, that doesn't mean you can act however you want when addressing him.
"....and you do not disrespect the office. If you do, you should lose your job and never be allowed within 200 feet of the white house or the President again."
So, just for kicks 'n giggles, how do you reconcile that belief with Trump's years-long , highly public, false contention that Obama was born in Kenya and therefore not qualified to be President? Seems like a lot of disrespect to me. I'm surprised you're not advocating jail time for the guy who started his political career by disrespecting the office of the presidency
Well, again, you have to have a modicum of common sense when looking at these things.
So, a private citizen can say what he wants, in the public domain. You can talk trash about a Judge, and Politician, a Boss.
But when you are performing a job, or filling an official position, where you are reporting to that person, or are in an official capacity covering that person and addressing them, you must remain respectful regardless of your personal opinions about them.
Fairly simple 101 civil/social expectations type of stuff, I have come to realize that many Americans are completely clueless to these variances, and that disrespect for all authority and all offices is becoming more of a norm in our society, but still, when you commit the crime, expect to do the time.
But, the President, in your mind, does not have to remain respectful to his fellow citizens, the ones he is supposed to be working for? And, even if he isn't respectful, he must receive respect simply because of his status?
Whether you think he is respectful or not is irrelevant.
But when addressing the President you must be respectful of the Office.
You may as well join antifa. That's where your mind is at. I'm sure you'll fit in wonderfully.
The way that you alternate between berating the left for not having manners and berating them for being too politically correct is fascinating.
Furthermore , Let me define your blatant party and likely your own hypocrisy ? If Acosta's attitude/manners is just fine with you , then you have nothing of substance to complain about with Trump's .
Once again, I did not say it was just fine with me. I said it is no different than how many reporters have behaved over many years with many different presidents. Please read that sentence carefully, because you seem to have trouble grasping that very simple point.
Oh I understood it clearly and I find it clearly hypocritical , Helen Thomas at least knew when to inject manners over ideals and go silent , perhaps it is those of you in the urban settings who have no use for manners at all , name another as rude as Acosta ?
Democrats and their puppy media created this ideological divide and now would not only blame it all on Trump's mannerisms excuse the total lack of manners of the past ? They're wondering why disliking and dispising the leftists in America is increasing , yet that IS what they are all undoubtedly shooting for .
NO president before Trump has been delivered such positional disrespect as he has , BUT by doing so the media also is disrespecting the entire US citizenship , the entire white house and staff and even more so their own putrid reputation .Democrats can know this however , What goes around comes around !
The debate is useless , Democrats excuse their own media's lousy behavior and bias for the abject capital they get out of obstructing .They have become ideologically inbred with Pravda USA
Isn't the reason Acosta's credentials were suspended because he pushed the intern? His verbal behavior is tiresome. Pushing an intern trying to do her job is another story. He should be charged with assault.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/vide … tern-video
I don't know as I would say anyone was pushed or even that he "put his hands on her", even though there did appear to be contact.
That doesn't mean that he should ever be welcomed back in, though - his behavior was 100% out of line.
Victims know that first there is a little push, then it escalates. Sometimes quickly, sometimes later with a blindsiding attack, but they know a push is a push. She backed down in self-defense. He did this to himself and should be fired and arrested for battery.
Some say that if Democrats believe Kavanaugh was guilty because of a sketchy accusation, Acosta should be in jail tonight. We should be hearing that he has lost his job and is looking for his get out of jail free card.
Do not know. But maybe it's not a bad idea in this climate.
Yes, I suppose it would be interesting to find out if she feels she was assaulted. I've never known of a person committing assault to say "Pardon me, ma'am" but I suppose there is a first for everything.
Experience is all that's needed to know it's not a first. His "Pardon me, ma'am" was in tandem with physical bullying, negating the pretended politeness with a firm indication that she had better get out of his way, which she did. How she feels about it is important, but does not decide what the law says in such a matter. All that's really necessary is a determination that it was non-consensual.
Some of you seem to be forgetting that the President serves the people, not the other way around.
Jim Acosta has been angry that the camera's aren't always on him .
Such is the nature of people who realize that no one is watching CNN anymore . Perhaps the left can get a passing legislation a mandatory watching of CNN by all .
Sat 1 hour per day?
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