Purpose of United States miltary - for protection or for hire

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   dianetrotterposted 5 years ago

   Trump is sending our troops to help Saudi Arabia (home of 911 assasins). His reason:  US President Donald Trump said on Friday the US is sending more troops to Saudi Arabia "to help", Reuters reported.
   
   Trump added that the Kingdom of Saud, one of the largest oil producing nations in the world, “has agreed to pay us for everything we’re doing.”
   
   He took troops from Syria because we are not involved in their local disagreements.  What about ISIS and why we were there in the first place.
   
   Is this dangerous?  Is our military's purpose to raise money for the US?

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      Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Saudi Arabia is a training grounds for ISIS for false flag attacks.  They keep changing the name of their main terrorists all the time.
      
      America main purpose is to set up their Centro banking in every country in the world. The countries holding off of their Centro banking system are targeted. Oil is what backs the American dollars, which is the greatest threat to the America Empire collasps.

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         dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I'm sitting here about to scream. 
         A voice for freedom murdered in Turkish attack on Kurds
         https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/ … h-in-syria

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      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Exclusive: Military leader of Syrian Kurds tells US 'you are leaving us to be slaughtered'
      
      https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/12/politics … urce=twCNN

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      Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Didn't you know? Trump said "time for us to get out" of "...endless, senseless wars". that really means "time for us to get out, unless you're willing to pay cash, in which case it's time for us to get back in, and we don't care how endless or senseless the war is!"

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         dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         He is the most immmoral, foul-mouthed fake Christian I've ever experienced.  I have been in tears all morning, reading about what is going on and watching on tv.  I hope we can get this fool out of the equation and go back to Democrats/Repulicans/Independent candidates.  This is awful.
         
         To hear what the Kurds commander is saying to the US diplomat, angry and pleading, should be enough for the Senate to take action.

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      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      James Mattis says Trump's troop pullout has led to 'disarray' in Syria
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 … a-disarray

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      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Will this inspire terrorist activity in the US?
      
      At least 750 Isis affiliates escape Syria camp after Turkish shelling
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ … h-shelling
      
      Hundreds of ISIS Supporters Flee Detention Amid Turkish Airstrikes
      The attacks caused about 700 Islamic State families to escape a Kurdish-run camp. The American defense secretary also said the U.S. would pull about 1,000 troops from the area.
      
      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/worl … -isis.html

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      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      This video can be seen on Mother Jones website:  Violent, cruel, dispicable and deplorable  It is staged in a church.  I though of Mother Emmanuel in South Carolina.
      
      https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … -meme-war/

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      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Thank God the uproar has been bipartisan and Pence is going to Turkey.  I sure don't want Erdogan to come to the US.  I hope that can be stopped.

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   Wouldn't it be most wonderful just to ban war.
   
   It solves nothing, look at America killing a 1000 or 2000 fold of mostly innocent women and children in Iraq.

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      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Probably with banning war is, the perpetrators won't agree to not attack.

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         Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Since 90% of wars are religious dominant countries. You can't get elected if your a non believer which is 25% of the world population.
         
         My trust is not in politiscains, religion and military because they are all tightly into bed together. My trust lays in true domacray of the 80% consciousness of the people and the grass root leaders who really are doing everything it take to make it a beautiful sane world.

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            dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            When Al Qaeda sent 20+ people to crash 3 planes into the Pentagon and Empire State Building, that was hatred for the United States.  There was no religion to start or stop.  We can come up with beautiful philosphies but they don't really address the hatred (especially in the name of religion) that people have for other people.

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               Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I watch WG Bush on YouTube say with his wife beside him,  saying.
               
               The Two Twin Towers could have been an inside job. His wife intense stared at him with her eyes, like -
               Have You gone MADD.
               
               Religion as a tool and false flags are what the Powers to Be, use.

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                  dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Conspiracy theories really don't help anything.  Right now, I want the senate to do whatever the heck they can to help those Kurds.  If Trump is in the way, he needs to be moved.
                  
                  Our Republic was designed in a way to make sure things like this didn't happen.  When you place someone in charge who has a real mental issue, God only knows what is possible.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     doGma help the next President puppets that keeps getting worse.

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   Live to Learnposted 5 years ago

   I'm not happy about leaving northern Syria because I've always felt for the Kurds. But, I understand his reasoning.
   
   Saudi Arabia is under assault by Iran. I don't like the Saudis but they are a strategic ally and it is in our interests to help. Them footing the bill is a boonie.

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      GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I don't disagree with the Saudi reinforcements, but it seems like one of those 'you gatta admit' moments where the optics are terrible.
      
      We pull 50+/- troops out of Syria because we want to get out of Middle-East involvements and then we send another 3000 troops to Saudi Arabia - because the Saudis will pay for it.*
      
      *I don't think we sent them because the Saudis will foot the bill, but I do think that is the optic the public will see.
      
      GA

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         Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         You're right.

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   Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

   No big surprise. Trump did nothing about a US resident being hacked to pieces by MSB's minions, so what's the big deal now?
   
   With SA pledging to buy more American made arms--and son-in-law Jerrod getting his 666 building finally leased for a century by Qatar--everything is peaches and cream.
   
   Are you people really pleased with our troops being for hire?

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      dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      How can he decide that he is going to rent the military out in the first place?  The Senate should have been involved in discussion of something like that.  military presence in Saudi Arabia or anywhere in the Middle East rish the same brutal death as the journalists.  Trump puts them in harms way because he is "making deals."  Dealmaker is the biggest lie he sold deplorables on next to fake news.  He has turned the US upside down.

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Trump is emboldened by getting by with the Mueller Report results according to Barr's interpretation. Selling the lives of our military is way over the lines, and with an obvious personal gain--or repayment of debt--for Trump.

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            dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            That is also deplorable.  People didn't look at it and didn't care.  Bill Barr is being paid by taxpayers to galavant around the world trying to frame the Bidens.  He met with Murdoch and then stated fallacies with their polls.  I'm trying to get the IG to look into it to see just "what is his job?"

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         dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         BTW, not all who voted for Trump are deplorables.  I understand they didn't want to vote for HRC.  Neither did I.  What is deplorable is the whole rally culture with the t-shirts/hats and agreeing with every ridiculous thing he said.  "I am president and I can do what I want."  He puts lies out about people and they swear to them.  Meanwhile Kurds are being tortured and murdered, some beheaded.  There is going to be a serious ethnic cleansing in Syria.  Trump selling out the Kurds led to all of this.
         
         Why is Saudi Arabia's problem (remember where 911 assassins came from) more crucial than the Turkish/Syrian border.

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            GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            "BTW, not all who voted for Trump are deplorables.  I understand they didn't want to vote for HRC.  Neither did I.  What is deplorable is the whole rally culture with the t-shirts/hats and agreeing with every ridiculous thing he said.  "I am president and I can do what I want."  He puts lies out about people and they swear to them. "
            
            Good comment Diane
            
            GA

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               dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Thank you GA!  That is a much appreciated comment today as I evaluate my attitude!

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                  dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I just tried to copy and past a deplorable parody video from Twitter.  DJT was walking down the aisle at a church and HRC came sneaking up behind him.  He turned around and shot her.  The whole video isn't shown.  There are comments about it saying the video came out in 2018.  According to comments, DJT, at one point, jumps on John McCain and beats him up. 
                  
                  Commenter said it was played at Trump rallies.  To make a video like this is deplorable.  To watch it and cheer is deplorable.  If he doesn't approve of these things he should say it.  I think he eats it up.  He loves chaos.
                  
                  We need to get back to normal ... whatever the heck normal is.  I spend waaay too much time on Twitter.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I heard about this video just this morning. Trump has remained silent about it, and the crazies will view his silence as approval.
                     
                     As an aside, a Trump defender questioning your Christianity is beyond funny. You're one of the.most civil posters on this forum and I admire that.

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                        Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Yes. Referring to people you disagree with, complaining they support Trump, by regurgitating a negative Hillary talking point is definitely something a person who goes out of their way to wear their Christianity on their sleeve should make sure they do.

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                           PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Lol, a total misrepresentation, but expected.

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                              Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Who coined the phrase 'deplorables'?
                              
                              You can certainly make false claims.

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                                 PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 
                                 
                                 I was taught that habitual lying is deplorable.  Blame my honest parents. Whatever.

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                                    Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                    Are you still rebelling?
                                    
                                    Read the thread. Read where Ga copies and pastes the statement about deplorables.
                                    
                                    People don't have to agree in order to be civil. I'd hope your parents touched on that point also.

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                                       PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                       All I can do is roll my eyes at who is complaining about civility.

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                                          Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                          Right back at you with the eye roll. Mine are rolling at the lack of honesty.

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                                             PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                             Lol, show me where I lied. Or, will this be like every other time you lie about me and don't back it up?

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                                                Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                                Lol. That statement, in and of itself, is dishonest. You called me out, claiming either a statement wasn't made, or the origin of the comment didn't begin with Hillary. Not sure which you meant, but both were wrong.
                                                
                                                Either way, I'm done. Nit pick someone else. This habit you have of half truths to outright falsehoods has grown  boring.

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                                                   PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                                   You addressed me first. Again. As for the rest, you make no sense at all.

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         Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         It takes an evil genius.

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            dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            i'm sure you are right.  A group of 35 psychiatrists met at Harvard this past week.  They discussed what they are observing and what they believe is happening.  They, hopefully, will have some impact.

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         Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Deplorables?
         
         How very Christian of you.

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            dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            read my follow on where I define deplorables.  I accepted Christ November 5, 1978.

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               Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Lol. I'm not looking up your personal definition of deplorable. As I sarcastically noticed. How very Christian of you.

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                  dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you!  1 John 1:9

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                     Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Quoting scripture now? I suppose it's easier to find justification for our own words and actions than following the words and actions of someone you claim to follow. Matthew 5:22.

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                        dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        deserving strong condemnation.
                        "the deplorable conditions in which most prisoners are held"
                        
                        It is not a sin to say actions are deplorable.  I don't apologize for calling it what it is. The Scripture reference is for believers because we do sin.  Being a Christian is not about following a bunch of does and don'ts.  That is legalism.  When people do deplorable things, it should be called what it is ... sin.
                        
                        The deplorable video that is on Twitter took time to produce.  It is deplorable that people enjoy it.  CIndy McCain tweeted about them involving her husband:
                        
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                        Cindy McCain
                        @cindymccain
                        Reports describing a violent video played at a Trump Campaign event in which images of reporters &
                        @JohnMcCain
                        are being slain by Pres Trump violate every norm our society expects from its leaders& the institutions that bare their names. I stand w/
                        @whca
                        in registering my outrage
                        12:25 AM · Oct 14, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
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                        Arriadna

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                           dianetrotterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           CNN is covering the video this morning.  Mia Love is saying Trump should condemn it.  She said it is "violent and horrific"!

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