Hey Wyan: I just got back from the gym. I was working out with some "uncivilized" "Chicano" friends. Have ya been keeping that "action" rollin' along? I start 'em you guys finish 'em...:-) PS I see yer gettin' alota action from the primitive, uncivilized religionists....:-)
That goes in cycles. I poked my head out of the hole for a little conversation, and I didn't duck it back in quick enough.
Thanks for your input to my health hubs.. I'm done entering any into the contest now. It was an awful lot of work for me
So - my take on civilization is the Hooters motto. "Delightfully tacky... yet unrefined."
I put that pic up first because it is hilarious and second because it's a great example of my idea. When I hear "civilized society", I kinda picture snooty, over-dressed culture snobs who decide for the rest of us what our standards are supposed to be. Maybe that is only my own hang-up, I don't know. It's like when people go about declaring that everybody who disagrees with them must be flat out stupid. They may believe they are acting civilized, but they are in the "un" category for sure.
Civilized people would NEVER approve of chicken wings served by boobs. Er, waitresses with big boobs I mean. But the rest of us who get a kick out of it are not just a bunch of low brow losers. I like things that are delightfully tacky! Uncivilized tho they may seem...
I'm very sure I swerved way of track from your OP, but that is where my brain took it.
Being "civilized" is an ideal. It's a moving target that will always be just out of reach because it will always be relative to where we actually are and what we can dream of as defined by our religious myths, social philosophers or whatever other "what if" scenarios we envision for ourselves outside the ever-evolving reality of our day-to-day.