criminals in the workplace

1. 61

   mr. daydreamposted 14 years ago

   Isn't maddening how ex-con child molesters and registered sexual deviants can manage to con their way into respectable companies even after extensive background checks, while regular citizens toil in unemployment limbo for months and months on end because of something small like : lack of experience or lack of good reference, low credit score or whatever?

   replyreport
   1. 0

      shazwellynposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So, what is the solution?

      replyreport
   2. 64

      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      demagogy

      replyreport
   3. 82

      psycheskinnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Our justice system says that you serve you sentence and then it ends.  The idea being that people can be rehabilitated.

      replyreport
   4. 60

      Manly Manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What would you recommend that they do when they have completed their sentences and are released from prison?

      replyreport
2. 59

   eltravoseposted 14 years ago

   They should all work construction, for less than minimum wage.

   replyreport
   1. 70

      rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What does that say about you and your predjudices?
      
      Child molesters are good enough for construction work but should be placed on a sub par basis with their wages?
      
      That's all we need is people with problems working at jobs that place peoples safety at risk.

      replyreport
3. 59

   Balmungposted 14 years ago

   They should all be kicked out of these companies and be sent to work in the government instead.

   replyreport
   1. 0

      Home Girlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Just keep them busy, especially those sexual deviants(!) away from mischief...

      replyreport
4. 60

   LaMamaLoliposted 14 years ago

   Or send them to Afghanistan and make them walk the roads searching for mines...

   replyreport
5. 60

   Ohmaposted 14 years ago

   I would really like to know what a credit check has to do with employment. there are a lot of good people with not so good credit because they are unemployed.

   replyreport
   1. 81

      Rafiniposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The only case I see for a credit check is if the new employee would be handling money, otherwise Employers need to keep their nose out of MY business!!

      replyreport
      1. 60

         Ohmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Even if handling money that is not a good excuse. Poor credit does not equal thief. I might understand it if we were talking about some one whose job it is to manage money for the company but anything else is a ridicules intrusion of privacy.

         replyreport
         1. 61

            mr. daydreamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I agree. And good credit doesn't mean that you're gonna do a better job. The employment system just gets worst and worst.

            replyreport
   2. 0

      Home Girlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Those unemployed ? They all bad! Good people all are employed(he-he-he). Just don't pay attention, I am delirious. Overwork, you know.

      replyreport
6. 71

   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   The simple fact is that a company can know your entire life history, once they have your application and never need to contact you about anything at all.
   
   You can never find out why you were not called back and you can never put the company into a position where they can be called for discrimination for not hiring.
   
   The power has been stripped from people and given to the companies.
   
   It's sad, but the truth.

   replyreport
   1. 61

      SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      what about privacy laws?

      replyreport
      1. 71

         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         What about them? Do you think it is fair that this can be done?
         
         The company can have access to a person's entire life, by them simply filling out an application, providing no information is left off the application.
         
         They never have to ever bring back someone, because they know everything they need to know. They would have enough information to duplicate someone's identity, know their habits and nothing is hidden.

         replyreport
         1. 61

            SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            no I don't think it is fair of course.  I was wondering if the US had freedom of information laws and how they worked.   
            
            when I hire someone I won't check out their references etc unless they give me signed permission; allows the person to release only what info. they want released.  when a former employee wants a reference from me I won't provide it unless they provide me formal permission to speak with a potential employer;  if anyone contacts me and requests info about a current/former employee, I won't release any info, unless the employee provides me written permission to do so. 
            
            As someone who hires, I don't even consider checking into someone's credit rating, however I do want to know if there is a criminal record because employees are working with very vulnerable people and children.  And it depends on the outcome of the criminal record.  It is really up to the potential employee to do whatever they have to to ensure the criminal record info is transparent so that I can make a decision.  (but that's another issue altogether)
            
            Those with all of the information at their finger tips are within the civil service; largest employer compared to companies.  Canada's freedom of info laws primarily target government for various reasons because they have so much private personal info. about citizens. 
            
            I'm sure large companies however do whatever they want when it comes to hiring people.

            replyreport
      2. 87

         Len Cannonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         They exist but businesses usually require you to waive them in order to apply for a position.

         replyreport
   2. 60

      Ohmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You are so right. but it is so wrong.

      replyreport
      1. 71

         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, it is absolutely wrong. The companies should not have this much power over the entire workforce.
         
         Sounds like "slave" owners who know the entire history of the slave they just bought.
         
         It's pathetic.

         replyreport
7. 60

   Ohmaposted 14 years ago

   The great social experiment! it will bite you in the a$$ every time

   replyreport
   1. 71

      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Too many people doing what is socially acceptable, instead of thinking outside the box.
      
      Society, as a whole, has allowed what is happening, on both counts. On the predator side of things and on the privacy side of things.
      
      Predators belong in prison, they do not belong outside of prison. The repeat offenders should never see the outside of a prison. Those that take a life or more, shouldn't be allowed to repeat or even the opportunity to repeat.
      
      The fact that too my business' can control people through employment leads me to another hub I wrote about Joblessness and how it continues to spread throughout America.
      
      It all stems back to people, individual people, and their individual knowledge about living in America. The underlying cause is that and nothing more.
      
      Just as I said in another forum thread- Prostitution should be legalized. A woman has the right to choose what she does with her body, same as Abortion. The government should not be holding a woman back, if she so chooses to sell herself.
      
      Many women would become prostitutes, just to get away from working for some temperamental boss who discriminates against her, yet she cannot fight back.

      replyreport
      1. 61

         SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         just to add my 2 cents.  I've worked around many sex trade workers.  i think gov't should legalize it primarily to keep women safe and provide whatever supports are necessary to help those who want out, to get out.  many are in the trade because of how harsh life as been to them not because they truly want to sell their bodies and put their life, body and emotions at risk.  I'm not sure of what the % is for those women who made a clear and informed decision to sell their bodies - I doubt if it is very high.

         replyreport
      2. 0

         WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I have worked in the adult industry and where I live, it is not illegal.  I have worked for several escort agencies as a driver.  I have been involved with S&M dungeons.  I have friends who are ex prostitutes.  I even sold myself a few times.  I married a worker and have had close relationships with many people involved in the industry.
         
         I agree that prostitution should not be illegal but I do not think it should be legal either.  The best legal course is for decriminalization.  Commercializing the industry is a step too far.  It is not a cut and dry case to talk about the rights of the worker.  Legalizing and thus commercializing the industry may not improve things at all.  In different regions across this country where I live, there are different laws.  Ranging from decriminalization to full legalization.  I won't go right into it but say this, the only product in sex work is a person's body.  Commercialize the industry and you are adding more layers of bureaucracy and more pay cuts to the worker.  Not cool.

         replyreport
         1. 0

            WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            sorry, that reads a bit funny. Obviously, it is already a commercial industry. I mean to say that corporate industry should not be allowed.

            replyreport
8. 59

   Originposted 14 years ago

   A person's credit score shouldn't impact employment what-so-ever. Unless, under rare circumstances! There are a lot of good people that lost their jobs and can't afford to pay bills because they have to choose between paying bills and feeding their families, and due to this their credit may be damaged yet they are still good people.

   replyreport