discerning between church and state...

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   SparklingJewelposted 15 years ago

   here is another case that tries again to make a specific distinction between church and state...you know...that contentious issue that gets people thinking about what are the differences and not being able to find common ground...
   
   
   http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=177197

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      Dave Barnettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      What is your veiw on the subject? Mine, I feel that the provision in the Bill of Rights has, and is being manipulated and that the Christian church is on the losing end, of  something that should be protecting them.

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         SparklingJewelposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         ...yes, Dave, I do agree with you...
         
         but my point tries to always be one where we can help each other (the people on different "sides")understand the what, why and how they think. the re is just continued opposition instead of true communication... or silence...neither of which is mature interaction.
         
         My answer is for everyone to find "spirituality"...have a concept of their importance in the Universe,or as Christians would say, Love God and want to be loved in return...the basis of love in all religions and thought is our first common ground, but the human ego still can't quite deal without believing they are right and someone else is wrong
         
         until all people feel that love, agreement and working together will not be accomplished

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   Doug Hughesposted 15 years ago

   Thomas Jefferson while president addressed this very issue - and this was his reply.
   
   "It is... proposed that I should recommend, not prescribe, a day of fasting and prayer. That is, that I should indirectly assume to the United States an authority over religious exercises which the Constitution has directly precluded them from. It must be meant, too, that this recommendation is to carry some authority and to be sanctioned by some penalty on those who disregard it; not indeed of fine and imprisonment, but of some degree of proscription, perhaps in public opinion. And does the change in the nature of the penalty make the recommendation less a law of conduct for those to whom it is directed?... Civil powers alone have been given to the President of the United States, and no authority to direct the religious exercises of his constituents."
   
   --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Miller, 1808. ME 11:428

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