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conservative vs liberal

  1. SparklingJewel profile image75
    SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago

    these are excerpts from an email from Liberty Central...one of many conservative groups on the move for Liberty in the elections....
    .......................

    How do we know liberals are getting desperate? Because they are throwing around baseless accusations about leading conservative groups. Like Liberty Central. And because they stopped paying attention to facts and are simply making up stories. All without a shred of evidence.

    President Obama himself accused the U.S. Chamber of Commerce of using foreign money to influence domestic elections. When asked for proof, his top aide said ... and we are not making this up ... "Let's see them prove they're not doing it."

    You see, liberals are way behind in the midterm election polls, and they are desperate. And, incredibly, this guilty-till-proven-innocent scheme is the centerpiece of their campaign!

    They've used The New York Times - attack dog No.1 in the liberal kennel - to do the same to us at Liberty Central. In a recent editorial and feature story, The Times says we shouldn't be able to raise money unless we publish our legally confidential donor list.

    What nonsense! 

    Liberty Central needs your help. We're two weeks from Election Day. Liberty Central - and our Operation: Restore Liberty, which seeks to highlight key battleground races - is already a strong voice in the conversation about saving our country from the mess we're in and returning to our Constitutional roots. We can't let Operation: Restore Liberty be weakened by this baseless nonsense.

    You see, these accusations are perfectly timed to make us use valuable resources to defend ourselves now, just as we're educating the public about the upcoming election. They know that our programs to stop big government and educate voters are making a difference, so they're doing everything they can to stop us.

    We have the momentum and the truth on our side. And with your help, we will take Operation: Restore Liberty to the next level. Your support today will help us educate voters about our founding principles and which legislators support them and which do not. We will be able to train activists all around the country on how they can get involved in the weeks leading up the elections. And most of all, we will be able to return to a more Constitutional Congress.


    Don't let them derail us from our mission. Help us fight back now. Go to libertycentral.org and contribute today.


    Yours in Liberty,

    The Liberty Central Team

  2. lovemychris profile image65
    lovemychrisposted 7 years ago

    And if they don't see things your way, just call the Drop Zone Security guys....they'll handcuf your detractors to the wall!!

    Some free speech. Some strict Constitutionalist.

    A bunch of FAKES!

    Joe the pill Miller.....Yale graduate, but not an elitist, like a Dem would be.
    Can't answer questions, so his goons ruff people up.

    And just imagine...you were allowed to bring guns to Obama rallies.
    Reporters can't even ask questions at Joe Miller's!

    Palin won't speak for less than $10,000.

    ALL the corporate foreign money is used to bash Dems.....it's all Republibagger Un-Americanism.

    Yeah, someone's going down all right, but it's just the opposite of what you envision.

    You people have WAY out-played your hatred.

  3. SparklingJewel profile image75
    SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago

    another one...anyone have the other side's story on these type of issues???

    It would be good to get perspectives from both (or more) sides....


    ....................
    Just hours ago, a memo from the AFL-CIO political director was leaked to the media.

    It shows just how many tens of millions of dollars the union bosses are spending to protect forced unionism-defending politicians and to attack pro-Right to Work candidates, who oppose Big Labor power grabs like the Card Check Forced Unionism and Police and Fire Fighter Monopoly Bargaining bills.

    According to the internal memo, Big Labor's plan includes:

        * Halting normal "union operations" and sending 2,000 national union staff and 3,000 local union officials into the field to campaign full time from now until election day;

        * Making tens of millions of phone calls attacking pro-Right to Work candidates (23 million already and tens of millions more in the final weeks);

        * Sending 4 million pieces of mail every week smearing candidates who oppose Card Check and other union power grabs.

    And that doesn't include the attack television ads that union bosses have launched nationwide.

    Truly, in the words of one government union boss, this is "a massive incumbent protection program."

    Fortunately, voters overwhelmingly oppose Big Labor's agenda of more power grabs and larger government. . . but it doesn't matter if union bosses drown out pro-Right to Work candidates.

    That's why we've decided to launch a massive Media Blitz, to make sure that Americans know who will stand against Big Labor power grabs and who is in the union bosses' pocket.

    Will you join the Right to Work Committee in fighting Big Labor's "incumbent protection program" by making a donation today?

    The Committee's Media Blitz, which includes TV ads, radio and a comprehensive internet program, is designed to spread the truth about Right to Work candidates and dispel Big Labor’s lies.


    The National Right to Work Committee is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, single-purpose

  4. SparklingJewel profile image75
    SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago

    here's another...this one from Patriot Post...
    ........................

    Is That the Best You Can Do?'
    Bowing to the Saudi king, yet complaining about foreign money

    Democrats are in such dire straits headed into November's elections that they're resorting to outlandish fear mongering about foreign money influencing the campaign via the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which represents 300,000 American businesses. Considering the Democrats' record of cap 'n' tax legislation, financial sector regulations and the takeover of one-sixth of the U.S. economy, it's no wonder they're focusing on a non-issue such as the Chamber.

    After a leftist blog reported that the Chamber had received $300,000 in annual dues from foreign companies, the Democrat National Committee ran an ad that warned, "The U.S. Chamber of Commerce. They're shills for big business. And they're stealing our democracy, spending millions from secret donors to elect Republicans to do their bidding in Congress. It appears they even have taken secret foreign money to influence our elections. It's incredible: Republicans benefiting from secret foreign money. Tell the Bush crowd and the Chamber of Commerce: Stop stealing our democracy!" And here we thought we lived in a republic.

    CBS anchor Bob Schieffer played the ad for White House adviser David Axelrod and then asked, "If the only charge three weeks [before] the election that the Democrats have to make is that somehow this may or may not be foreign money coming into the campaign, is that the best you can do?" Yes, Bob, it is. Furthermore, Democrats have a long history of blaming opponents for engaging in all the dastardly practices they themselves have done for decades, a tactic right out of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" ("pick a target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it"). Foreign money has been flowing to Democrat coffers, especially labor unions, for many election cycles. Yet the White House indicates that it will continue this theme for the next few weeks.

    For the Chamber of Commerce to use foreign funds to pay for campaign ads would be a crime. Obama knows this, though it doesn't stop him from calling the Chamber's latest free-market advocacy campaign a "threat to democracy." Joe Biden challenged the Chamber to "tell us how much of the money they're investing is from foreign sources." "None," would be the answer. Even the "fake but accurate" New York Times reports, "[A] closer examination shows that there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, according to both liberal and conservative election-law lawyers and campaign finance documents."

    Ever since the Supreme Court's Citizens United v. FEC ruling overturned parts of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, Democrats have been looking for ways to repeal the First Amendment for businesses, and publicly demonizing the Chamber of Commerce and other faceless corporations is the first step. Whether it's this pathetic episode, or Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT) ordering investigations into tax-exempt groups for political activities, or Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius threatening "zero tolerance" for health insurance companies blaming ObamaCare for increasing premium rates, Democrats have a plan. And there's little "democratic" about it.

  5. Evan G Rogers profile image77
    Evan G Rogersposted 7 years ago

    I dunno what to say.

    Just save yourself the effort and realize that true liberty comes with a restricted government: each time you read something like that, just ask yourself "will government get bigger or smaller because of this?", if it's "smaller" then it's liberty, if it's "bigger" it's tyranny.

  6. SparklingJewel profile image75
    SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago

    another...anyone have a left-liberal response to this?....

    "The political success of liberalism is parasitic, feeding off order and prosperity that the implementation of liberal policies couldn't possibly create. Bill Clinton's recent bragging on the campaign trail about the budgets that he balanced in the 1990s is an illustration of this: Where did those budgets come from? Not from the policies of liberalism. Take away the significant reductions in defense spending that came from Ronald Reagan winning the Cold War, the wealth from an entrepreneurial economy that an era of tax cuts generated, and the check on Democratic spending schemes from Newt Gingrich's Congress, and those budgets would never have been balanced. In his first term, Clinton had every intention of busting the budget with HillaryCare, but he just couldn't get away it. If Clinton is a 'successful' president, as pundits these days insist, that's because his agenda failed where Obama's succeeded. By passing ObamaCare and a raft of other bad bills, the Democrats have made it possible for voters to measure liberal rhetoric against the grim realities it produces. The parasite got fat enough to eat the conservative host whole, and now it is dying. ... Liberalism normally enjoys the demagogic advantage of appealing to emotion over reason. But in moments of crisis, people want reason over emotion." --columnist George Neumayr

  7. lovemychris profile image65
    lovemychrisposted 7 years ago

    True liberty comes with restrictions on greed. Other wise they eat you alive.

    Keep your biased words jewel....I can bring up just as many on the other side.

    What counts is actions, not words....

    And what have the actions of the GOP produced?

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this one.

    Their policies are reckless and feckless.

    ANYTHING for a buck.

  8. SparklingJewel profile image75
    SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago

    even the vision of what one sees is their uniquely "jaded" vision, and not the vision of the mass population...

    what one sees is limited...what are the visions of all that are similar is what I see, and want to see...

    until people can do that, there will be opposition that only makes things continually a problem

  9. lovemychris profile image65
    lovemychrisposted 7 years ago

    No, I am speaking strictly on experience here.

    What have we experienced as a country since 2000?

    Like I said, it's not rocket science, and it does not take paragraphs of empty words.

    And no matter how many times you blame it on the "democrat take over since 2007" (laughable on its face), it will not fly.

    I live here. I know what went down. I know who was responsible.

    No amount of spin can change that.

 
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