Socialism vs. Capitalism

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   wongomowaleposted 12 years ago

   Which system has worked better?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Capitalism.  It worked in the U.S. until all the special interest groups decided they should have as much or more than those who actually worked for it or achieved their dreams through luck, even, or whatever.
      Helping people out of poverty is one thing.   Taking away the free enterprise of others is a different thing.

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         At what point in our history was the U.S. economy a "capitalist" one?

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            Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Well, let's see.   I'd say....it was pre-indoor-plumbing or thereabouts. 
            

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               Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               We've never had a purely capitalist system, not even in colonial times.  The founding fathers (and their fathers) understood that capitalism without a strong counter balance (government) would lead to chaos.
               
               Over time the government has taken a larger role in the economy and endeavored to make it work for everyone - not just the uberriche.

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                  Paul Wingertposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Capitalism and socialism can't work soley by themselves. Pure socialism was a disaster for the Soviet Union under Stalin (actually he turned Lenin's policies into a total dictorship and the USSR into a police state). This country, or any other country has never been 100% capitalism and that would not work either. The Industrial Revolution starting in the 1820's was the closest that this country became to being about 90% capitalism and look what happened. Any first world, industrialized nation (US, Canada, China, all of Western Europe, etc.) have an economic system consisting of a capitalist/socialist mixture.

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                     Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I disagree:
                     
                     Capitalism is human nature working without limit - it's impossible to ask for a compromise to this.

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   Actually, there does seem to be situations where they intertwine and coexist.

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   mortimerjacksonposted 12 years ago

   No one "ism" has ever worked. The world we live in is a blend of different forms of organization. Our public schools and postal services could be labeled as communist, while other areas are completely capitalistic in nature. America is even economically fascist in certain areas. I wrote an article about this. The point is that people look things less from an ideological point of view, and more from a practical point of view. There is no "ism" that's better than the other.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Other than "Pastafarianism", I'd have to agree.

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   Evan G Rogersposted 12 years ago

   Capitalism is obviously the best system. The problem is just that it has never existed - it is always hampered by a socialist system (government) that leeches off the productive power.
   
   To those who demand "compromise": your argument is nonsense. Under capitalism all VOLUNTARY actions that do NOT interfere with property rights are allowed, and thus it is NOT an "ism", it is simply human nature.
   
   There's nothing to compromise: it is simply how humans act.

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      wongomowaleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I find that claim interesting because before the creation of capitalism, socialist states did exist and they functioned very well. I won’t say capitalism is necessarily human nature because its born out of a culture of greed. Socialism has been around longer.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Typical Evanism...
      
      Agree with me even though my rants are baseless.  If you disagree you are stupid!!!
      
      I want my island now

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         Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         What's that? Ron posted another meaningless quip that didn't address any points about what I wrote?
         
         ... man, who cares!

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   Paul Wingertposted 12 years ago

   A world of pure capitalism is a world of wage and age, religon, sex, creed,etc, discrimination, undescribable working conditions, pollution, child labor, no healthcare or even responsibilty of the employer for the employee of any kind, no form of minimum wage, monopolies, and the list goes on for days. Without a form of socialism, there would be no public schools, libraries, city and human services, social security, medicare/cade, transportation, fire and police services. So much for the anti-socialists out there who went to a public school, use the public libraries, get there sstreets swept and snow removed and are collection social security!

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