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A demographic problem... that affects you!

Updated on February 23, 2012

Update Feb 2012. Having lived in Malaysia for a while, I now have Muslim friends, and find them nice folk, but then they are the local equivalent to the Anglican Church, i.e. they don't get heavy into their religion, and would probably be put to death if the Islamic fundy nutters ever gained power here!

The rest of the article still stands.

Before you read this hub, or judge what I write, or proceed further, please watch the video and consider it's contents.

I am not a racist, or Islamophobic, nor afraid of Muslims and I am not seeking to cause any hatred against them.

We are all in the habit of hearing 'some of our best friends are Muslims' on peoples lips, well that's not true for me, mainly because as a Christian zealot myself (One of the resident atheists; Earnest nominated me as one yesterday, and I thank him) I tend to steer clear of Muslims and non believers unless I am witnessing to them, so there are limited opportunities for friendships to blossom.

But the Muslims you are liable to meet and befriend are not those who are themselves 'zealot fundamentalists', and some stark choices face our western post Christian society, and we all need to consider them, Christians, secular humanists, atheists and all those people in between.

So.... don't shoot the messenger!

If you have watched the video, you will have learned that effectively the world as we westerners know it looks set to change, and not in our favour.

Whilst the atheists on our forums are gleefully predicting the eminent demise of religion, and Christianity in particular, they neglect to look into what will happen in a post Christian world, preferring to focus on what they wish would happen in an atheist world.

Islam is not their friend.

In fact, after consideration, true Christian believers (as opposed to pew warming church goers) would probably fare better under strict Islamic rule than they would in a strictly secular society.

Islam accepts Jew and Christians as 'People of the Book' in reverence to our supposedly mutual deity.

In submission to them as the rulers of our lands, we would be required to pay 'tribute' to them and observe their rules, which in reality would be not so very onerous to any real believer, indeed we may prosper under their rule.

Alcohol may be permitted to non Muslims, and I have bought alcohol in Morocco when visiting, and I know that some of the more 'liberal' Muslim states will allow westerners to drink, in tight control, so you non believing drinkers may be OK.... for a while.

But Islam also makes snap decisions, and not having the constrains of democracy to hinder it, can rule against something one day and outlaw it the next, so don't rely on your preconceptions of democratic rule ensuring your future freedoms.

Just two days ago, friends of mine at 'The Village of Hope' orphanage, who accept abandoned (to die) Moroccan children and care for them in family groups, in an orphanage they built....and have cared for them very well for the last ten years....were thrown out of Morocco with less than a days notice, and at the same time other Christians were rounded up and put on planes.

No discussion, no appeal, no redress.

Imagine trying to do that to a Muslim group in our countries?

Islam rules by theocracy, which is correct, but only when you also allow that those who do not hold your beliefs must have the right to live their lives outside of that theocracy.

Be prepared for an Islamic rule that will have more similarities to the Taliban than to what you may see in 'liberal' Muslim friends and politicians.

If the 'liberal' Muslims we all pretend are our friends were ever liable to manage the fundamentalist zealots, then they needed to start controlling them long ago, and certainly after 9/11.

Indeed these liberals would probably have the worse problem of all, being westernised Muslims, an anathema to those who are fundamentalist zealots, and who will in all probability be dictating the terms of our existence.

They will most likely be killed as 'infidels' who have abandoned the true tenets of Islam.

Gaddafi may have predicted that Islam would conquer the world by stealth re-population, but make no mistake, any opposition once they are in a position of strength, will be dealt with by the sword.

If it's written in the Quran they mean it, and they support it, and they enforce it.

No least no living opposition.

Just Google 'stoned to death' or 'beheadings' and see what comes up before you take your moderate filters off.

I won't put those pictures in this hub, but someone is putting them up there, and it's not western journalists that upload them, so it must be some of the folk who were present when these poor folk were stoned or beheaded.

Who takes souvenir shots at an execution (don't answer, we all saw those taken at Saddam's hanging, taken by one of the guards) and why?

Well the only reason I can think of is to show us what happens IF we break their laws.

Are you beginning to get an idea of how this just may affect you?

Women's liberation may take a bit of a hit as well, after all even the most wishy washy women's libber recognises that Islamic males are not exactly in tune with the 'advances' they have made since they gained their 'liberation'.

Dress codes may change a mite, and work habits will have to be amended, as will travel plans, unless you are with your husband or brother.

Women will save money on fashion clothing and make-up, and of course they will no longer have to be concerned about abortion issues, as there will not be any.

Roe verses Wade will be history, and will no longer appear in school books, which will be mainly Quran lessons anyway.

Drug crime will be reduced overnight as will robbery and outrageous sexual behaviour after a nights binge drinking, so our policemen, assuming we still have a police force rather than a Sharia law enforcement squad, will have less to do, and far fewer restrictions on how they maintain order.

Homosexuals will have a mixed blessing from this, as the sexual repression that keeps Islamic women pure until they are married off, also seems to encourage homosexuality in their young men, at least until they are married and have started having their eight children, or rather their wives have started having those children.

I guess homosexuality still features during those times when the woman is carrying a child and unable or unwilling, no strike that, Idon't think unwilling comes into it... unable to have a sexual relationship with her husband.

But please guys.... don't get caught, for I understand that rather than legally enforcing equality, they hang you in the main square.

The future looks rosy.

So what is the answer.... well trying to restore our breeding patterns obviously will not work, we are too late for that, and one could even begin to suspect that there was some ulterior motive behind women being persuaded that 'freedom of choice' was more important than the future of our culture and society and ideals,

Women were educated into believing that marriage is a demeaning institution, and that bearing and raising children a stupid thing to aspire to.

Henry Makow, a reactionary Jewish writer, has presented a theory for the last few years, that the whole women's liberation movement was a Satanic ploy set to destroy us.

He is probably right.

You see all it takes is one generation to drop below that magic replacement figure and the games over, and with the advent of the birth control pill, abortion on demand and the morning after pill, plus add in unrestricted immigration and political asylum to boost low wage worker numbers, and women have become redundant when it comes to bearing and raising children.

They are convenient equal sexual objects that most men care little for and who are now considered fair game to use and abuse just like men do to other men.

Gaining their equality has cost women the previously sacrosanct protection from an unfair male society, 'they can take care of themselves' is an average response from an average male of comparative age, who has been released from any obligation to 'cherish and honour' his intended wife.

Many millions of our future workforce and replacements have been killed in the name of 'the right to choose'. Our society is committing suicide, and the Muslims will inherit our lands and possessions by default.

I could say that at nearly sixty it will not affect me, and looking at the demographics that's probably correct, but I will not, because I have an eight year old daughter and a twenty year old son, who would be affected by this mess.

Yet I am unconcerned.

Because God has a plan, and if I have not had a 'fatwa' put on me for writing this, maybe I can reveal it in part two of this hub...

Alternative views... there is hope!


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    • Vladimir Uhri profile image

      Vladimir Uhri 

      9 years ago from HubPages, FB

      John great Hub. There is here only one solution. IF MY PEOPLE will...

      2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

      We often are asking others to repent... I think we missed the boat, Christians. I am one of them.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      GmaGoldie thanks for commenting, and especially for pointing out my obvious error.... Part Two is now linked at the bottom of the page!


    • GmaGoldie profile image

      Kelly Kline Burnett 

      10 years ago from Madison, Wisconsin


      Demographics is critical topic for all of us and it is our duty to take care of our children and grandchildren.

      Where is part II?

      Islam has surpassed Catholics - haven't heard this one. I thought about it and thought it might happen but not this soon in my lifetime.

      The video is awesome. The message is critical.

      This is one of the most important Hubs I have ever read. Excellent insights.

      Thank you!

    • Disappearinghead profile image


      11 years ago from Wales, UK

      I've done my bit John - 3 kids.

      We may start seeing a backlash though. France and Belgium have new laws prohibiting some Islamic dress in public, and the new UK government is going to set limits on non-EU immigration.

    • dfager profile image


      11 years ago from Federal Way, Washington

      I understand what Micky Dee says as it relates to America. What does it matter how many children Westerners have if their beliefs have lost their salt. The condition of the US has really bothered me greatly. I wouldn't be surprized that unless justice comes to those who involved us in the illegal war in Iraq and possibly Afganistan and Pakistan, then I'm afraid we may not see improvement in our political system.

      Pray for the US and our churches here.

    • 50 Caliber profile image

      50 Caliber 

      11 years ago from Arizona

      Hi John, WOW! Just WOW that's all I really got at this juncture in time. Mickey Dee, my little Brother has hammered a forging of pretty much my feelings that I could not have done, and I mean not able as in finding the words to put it together.

      What I see here is the western world not having and raising enough offspring to replace it's self as it dies. My father one of 12 boys and 4 sisters, his father a Pentecostal Preacher on Sundays, a logger 5 days, a sermon writer on Saturday and judging the size of his family a STUD at night. Having been to his home where he was raised(my Dad) the preacher had no shame as it was a two room house. Kitchen/dining area and a bed room. All that fit shared the bed the rest, Baptist pallets on the floor, wood fired kitchen and heat, candles for light and a hand pump well out the back door just over the porch on your way to the out house. My visit, upgraded to electricity for light and heat, that's it.

      My little brother, zero kids, me 1 daughter, 7 grand kids. Right there the family name drops when we die. Muslims probably 5 times that many, So unless the U.S.starts breeding faster we'll be replaced as christians by the Muslims. I think that was your point so I need to read part 2.

    • Micky Dee profile image

      Micky Dee 

      11 years ago

      I'm sure I did waste a good hub here. If I wrote a hub with these concerns most people at this hub wouldn't read it. I'm not close enough to mainstream Bibliography. Most folks are indeed blissfully naive. And -that's why we have the elected officials that we have revolving through that revolving door. I'm not going to say what people want to hear and back the "lessers" of evils and so on. I've lived a really real life. I know how this world is ticking and there is no turning it around. Not anytime soon. Not in my lifetime and I'll bet the farm and pass it on to my daughter for her inheritance. it is only that I am old and closer to death that I can speak as freely. But these words are lost.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Am I the only hubber that gets another hub written in their comments box? (not complaining, it's good!)

      Mickey, I will consume your 'comments' a couple more times before I respond, but I see and hear what you say. You wasted a good hub here! - maybe work it into a real hub for yourself.... ;o)

      Dave, I don't know about Nostradamus, but I do know my scripture and I have a couple of ideas where it's leading, but only God knows for sure the timing!


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      Dave Mathews 

      11 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

      John my brother I hear and understand your points in what part 1 has shown us. Maybe this is what Nostredamus was referring to in his prophetic revelation with regards to December 20, 2012, as he reveals that some major world changes, short of the coming of the Biblical "Rapture" and "End Days" arrives. I look forward to part 2 John.

      Sincerely with a Christian Love of My Enemy Islam,

      Brother Dave Mathews.

    • Micky Dee profile image

      Micky Dee 

      11 years ago

      I have no problem with Muslims or any religion that promotes the Golden Rule. 20 plus religions have this Golden Rule. I'm not sure how other religions are truthfully. encouraging and promoting the Golden Rule. You will talk until you will actually be blue in the face but you will not convince me that American Christians promote the Golden Rule.

      911 is bad. All Americans will say so and rightly so.

      The American Injustice system had destroyed more lives than 911.

      Until American Christians stop voting in the same-old-same-old, until American Christians overhaul an injustice system that requires more and more money to appeal for the "chance" for some kind of justice- sorry this pig of "this Christianity" will not fly. NOT with me.

      I believe in God. I believe in righteousness. I believe in justice. I, my grandnephew, my great uncles, my uncles, my father, have all served this country. And I see corruption from those who say that the rest of the world is wrong while there is a locust tree in the eyes of most Christians. The actions of Christians show that they certainly DO NOT have a lock on the GOLDEN RULE and compassion. The Christian world does not generally pray the Lord's Prayer as Jesus requires.

      The LAW, above all others, this law surpasses all laws. This law is stronger than identifying Jesus. Jesus said this law is above all laws- that "you love one another as thyself"! This is the LAW. It's the Golden Rule.

      Until Christians will overhaul an injustice sysgtem that is a lie there is no credibility. It's just another religion.

      Now I believe in Jesus. That's the easy part. It is absolutely true that a perfect life came. He healed. He tried to raise the poor and downtrodden. He talked to everybody. He didn't say one thing and imprison the innocent. Believing in Jesus is EASY. Believing He was killed is too easy too. To believe that His friends left Him alone to die the shameful death (and that's what dying on the cross was in that time)is easy. Today there would be a band or people running around with Ipods and telephones and portable computers and there would be real-estate developers trying to sell His tomb. There would be people throwing frisbees. Until America "heals" itself- until Christians regain credibility- by and large it's a religion like a political party. But you have noble intentions. Please, before we invade a country to supposedly force the "freedoms" we don't have and a way of life that too many of Americans don't have, let's get America and Christianity straightened out.

      Our food is compromised. Our courts are compromised. Our leaders are compromised, blah, blah, blah.

      Quit voting Republican and Democrat. It's just a wicked game!

      I do appreciate the hub and good intentions. Thanks

    • cheaptrick profile image


      11 years ago from the bridge of sighs

      I'm here John,I'm here...With you now...out of the closet...Ready to do the work required brother.


    • Ghost Whisper 77 profile image

      JG the IGNITER 

      11 years ago from The U.S. Government protects Nazi War Criminals

      If you are a true believer in God and the Bible- than nothing such as this should surprise you nor shock you. It is as plain as the writings of what is to come--Christians will be beheaded and killed..its a no brainer.

      People want to deny the Jewish Holocaust, when we saw it with our own eyes--it was no lie--it was evil on earth-a savage massaccre of God's people--they were murdered due to their faith--Jewish. And certainly times are gearing up against the Christians now. There is a lesson that should have been learned by the past-people choose to look away from evil-protecting evil and lie about the past making excuses for evil--there is no excuse for evil-none-it is the devil that whispers to make excuses for this horrid attrocity....but regardless that people look away--Christians will be is all in plain sight.

      I will have no fear-not concerned for myself-concerned for those who are blind to what is hiding in plain sight. God bless this world!

      Good hub John-can't wait to see the next chapter.

    • UlrikeGrace profile image


      11 years ago from Canada

      There is more than some truth to this...yes I agree aguasilver there is a lot about Islam that we could actually learn from and benefit from...and they are gaining more and more power and control for the same reason that Mormons have been able to survive all these years...people really do want discipline. Now before everyone wants to hang me...let me's just like kids..they may fight discipline and rules etc., but they actually crave it as then they feel cared for and safe and secure...knowing someone bigger than them is in charge...I believe we need that as gets more than a little tiresome being our own gods, we weren't made for that, we need having someone tells them what to think and do is so often gratefully welcomed.

      God gives us choice to obey or not...Islam does not. We have to start (right in the Church) realizing may be too late already.

      Great hub...looking forward to Part 2.

      Blessings to you


    • godpreacher profile image


      11 years ago from Atlanta,Ga.


      Just leaving a line to let you know I've stopped by. I'm saving my comment until after I've read part two. But I will say, I saw some truth.

      God Bless

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Gotta keep em guessing!

    • Sanctus Vesania profile image

      Sanctus Vesania 

      11 years ago

      I was worried there for a minute.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Sanctus, you know me better than that, let's use the word 'sardonic' and let it run!

      Part Two will make it all clear.


    • Sanctus Vesania profile image

      Sanctus Vesania 

      11 years ago

      Perhaps it's my fatigued idled mind, but it really sounds like you're completely for this whole Islamic take over. You even make it sound like it's a great idea when it comes to women.

      No, you know something? I may not be one of those feminists who's like "all men are evil, let's burn our bras and go get abortions, eat ice cream, and have lesbian orgies, tee hee!" but I refuse to be treated like an object.

      Because, yeah, we all know that's why God really created women; so they could be property (and nothing more) to men. And this is about the same attitude that Islam has.

      I will never convert to Islam, and if I die, so be it.


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