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How Lucky are We?

Updated on September 2, 2016

Introduction

The announcement of a new found earth like planet four light years away got me thinking. How lucky are we to have our earth in the environment we find ourselves. I hope this new planet is as well furnished as our earth to not only sustain life but to enrich it.

- Sept. 2016

Here are 10 things...I am grateful for

  • Our Sun
  • Our Moon
  • Water
  • Ocean
  • Forests
  • Sand
  • Fossil fuel
  • Nuclear power
  • Electricity
  • Brain

The Moon

Our moon is extraordinary. It is larger than most moons and it has a reflective quality that provide us with a night light. It is also the force that drives our tides. The lunar cycle is also tied to our agriculture.

The Sun

Our Sun is the source of all life on Earth. The stability of the light source over millions of years is a miracle in itself. The sun not only provide light but energy for plants. It is part of a life cycle based on Carbon.

Ocean

The ocean is the source of primitive life forms according to scientists. It was the primordial soup that allows for the creation of organic matter. The salts contained in our oceans also heals and purifies. It is the source of the bulk of our food supply.




Water

Water, after our Sun, is a necessity of life. This simple molecule of H2O has unique properties which allows for cleaning, and dissolving and sustenance. It's unique atomic structure allows it to expand when frozen creating ice, a solid that is lighter than water and floats. This simple fact allows for our environment to withstand the seasons of hot and cold.

Sand

Sand that are so plentiful on our planet is the simple molecule of SiO2. It allows us to make incredible things such as glass and it is a great insulator. It is also the raw material for all most of our microelectronics components. It is hard to believe such a simple compound can produce so many amazing products.

Forest

Our forest and trees are part of our life cycle. It converts CO2 to O2 and provides us with life. In addition, the numerous wood products that are derived from trees provide us with raw materials for building shelter and transportation and clothing...

Nuclear Power

The discovery of the theory of relativity by Einstein created a whole new source of energy and power. Nuclear fission and fusion are the source that power our Sun. It is also the power that is behind the deadliest weapon man as created. The atomic bomb, which ended world war II has kept our planet safe for over 70 years. Let's hope we will use it responsibly for good.

Fossil Fuel

Our fossil fuel of gas, oil and coal are the source of tremendous energy. These forms of energy allow us to be so efficient in creating power for distribution and for transportation and mobility. It is the energy we use to build our modern industrial society.

Our Brain

The human brain is a miracle in itself. Scientists have no idea how it works - really. How a 3.5 pound organ can do all the things we do? Invent new things, create new concepts, and be self-aware and have a conscience. It can only be the product of an "intelligent" design. CS Lewis correctly claim our brain to be the ultimate "miracle" that God gave us.

Electricity

The invention of electricity change our lives forever. Before electricity, we lived off the land and stayed in our local community. Electricity brought us light 24 hours a day, power to drive machines and power to heat and cool our homes, run our computers and charge our phones... It is a miracle that electrons so small that cannot be seen by the naked eye can produce so much power and uses.











Summary

It is easy to take things for granted. Only when we lost some do we think about their value. In the case of a new found planet, I hope it has all the basics that sustain us here on earth.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Aviannovice, I'm not knowledgeable about fracking but that is not my main point. We have plenty of oil and gas and coal reserves that could last a long time. Some are prevented from drilling due to the climate change theory. I have written extensively about the science of climate change and have debated Doc_Snow on HubPages about it. You can read our extensive discussion here. I am a skeptic on AGW theory.

      - https://hubpages.com/education/Climate-Change-Pred...

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      Deb Hirt 9 months ago from Stillwater, OK

      I'm referring to dirty fuels, Jack, namely their addition to global warming. As a matter of fact, due to fracking, we just had a 5.6 earthquake here in OK, which is filled with fault lines, one of which is directly under my couch. Simply, with cause and effect, we must move on and out of fossil fuels.

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      Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 9 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

      Avianovice, Fossil fuels are a thing of the past? Not yet they aren't.

      "move on to renewable sources of energy."

      Yeah, with their high development cost?: It costs a lot to develop renewable energy stations in both research and manufacturing the components needed for them to be successful. The known ways of using fossil fuel are less costly because all of the manufacturing and construction processes are already in place, that's one reson why they aren't a thing of the past.

      Almost all of the suggested renewable energy sources are very vulnerable to weather and other climate occurrences. Renewable energy sources depend heavily on sun and wind to produce energy. Abundant rain or slow wind can reduce the production of energy. As it is not possible to produce energy in such conditions, we might have to reduce our energy consumption. In fact, even if many of them are adopted, in some areas the predicted ongoing climate change could make them inoperable within 50 years.

      Unlike coal powered electric plants that produce abundant supply of power, renewable sources can’t produce that much of energy in short span of time. The technology that is used in producing energy is new and major other factors like weather play spoilsport that hamper the production of energy on large scale. This simply means that either we have to reduce our energy consumption or set up new facilities that could produce energy at a faster rate. More reason why fossil fuels are far from being a thing of the past.

      One of the major cons of many of the renewable energy plans is that the raw material – solar intensity, wind or water, is not available in all locations. That mean you will still have to create an infrastructure for transporting the energy that may not be better than what is already in place. We will never be rid of fossil fuels.

      Another con of renewable energy is that to produce large amount of energy, large amount of solar panels and wind farms have to be set up. For this, large areas of land is needed to produce such massive amount of energy on large scale. Their are environmental (creation of batteries to store energy produce more pollution than any fossil fuels) and wildlife consequences that come with the large areas of land needed.

      And given there is no irrefutable proof whatsoever that fossil fuels are adding to climate change as you seem to believe (good advice for you: don't believe anything you read in the media without researching it yourself) I think it is more likely if fossil fuels continue to become cheaper renewable sources of energy will be a thing of the past, maybe they already are.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Avianovice, what evidence do you have fossil fuel is obsolete?

      Dispite the efforts of govenment incentives for renewable energy for the past 20 years or so, they have very little impact on total energy production. Also, the prediction by experts that we have reached "peak oil" production is wrong. We have plenty of energy and more importantly they are cheap and necessary for the world economy.

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      Deb Hirt 9 months ago from Stillwater, OK

      I agree with you on most of your points, but I believe now that fossil fuels are a thing of the past and we must move on to renewable sources of energy. Fossil fuels are adding to climate change and with all the people on this planet, I believe that we need something much cleaner.

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      Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 9 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

      Jack, didn't I tell you it would be fruitless. This Brad is not a truth seeker, he is a closed minded atheist who will glom onto any notion or idea that he"thinks" refutes the idea of the perfect, omniscient, omnipresent holy creator God of the Bible who demands righteousness, and condemns sin.

      Why so? you may ask. The answer is simple he doesn't want to admit he is a sinner and needs a savior. People try to protect some area of their life or some habit they want to keep so they go on a search for intellectual reasons why they want to justify that or they find ways to suppress the truth or cover it up because of a bent to hold onto their sin, to justify their desire not to let Jesus be Lord of their life.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Brad, WHAT NAMES DID I CALL YOU?

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Brad, Here is my responses to your points...

      1. Bad Apples – The world is filled with bad people, and like bad apples they adversely affect the good apples.

      Yes, there is good and bad people in the world. God created man with free will. In order for this to be true, He would have to allow some people to choose to be bad…

      2. Good Apples – While good people have a better chance at turning around bad people, in the apple world there is no chance.

      In the people world, it is a very rare exception.

      Yes, we can influence others by our deeds and example, not by what we say.

      3. When a God doesn’t show himself to his creation, how or why should people take it seriously?

      He has done so on numerous occasions. If the people cannot recognize God, what else can He do?

      4. Add to that, even the bible written about him mentions his failures. Even the simplest thing like making a tablet that would last to hold the commandments.

      The 10 Commandments was given to Moses. The story in the Bible are just that. It does not have to happen exactly as it is written.

      It is the concept that is key. Man was given some simple rules to lead good lives. Unfortunately, we cannot live up to those high standards.

      5. Why is there a need for two bibles?

      The two Bibles you refer to are the Old and New Testaments. The Old was for the Jewish people who were the chosen people of God. Since they rejected God the person of Jesus, a new covenant was formed. The New Testament is open to all people who accept Jesus as savior.

      6. Isn’t it a failure of God to have to send his “son” Jesus to stop the people from disobeying him?

      No, the point of Jesus is to be the redeemer. Only a person without sin, can act as a redeemer. God sent his only Son Jesus to act on that behalf.

      7. The God of the Old Testament is much different than his son.

      They are one and the same. Father, Son and Holy Ghost, are the Trinity. In my hub, I describe it as three states similar to water, ice and steam. All are the same molecule but in three very different states.

      8. That God that the Old Testament attributes to creating the heavens and the earth, and Adam and Eve is an angry, unforgiving and vengeful God.

      I grant you that the God of the Bible is a jealous God. He wants to be worshiped as the only God and no other. What is wrong with that?

      9. Why else would he make the Sin of Adam and Eve the sin of the billions of people that would come after them?

      The Sin of Adam is propagated to his descendents. Just like DNA…

      10. Before God sent his son, he tried to put fear into the people so that they would follow him without question. Even the great flood and all the other acts that God used on the people were unsuccessful. So he sends Jesus to do public relations.

      No, he gave people free will. Jesus was a merciful act.

      11. Jesus inspires the writing of the second bible, now called the New Testament. There is very little connection between the two bibles, including God. God plays only a tiny supporting role.

      That is false. The authors of the New Testaments was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

      12. Still no one ever saw God in either of the bibles, they may have seen manifestations attributed to God but not God.

      That is because, it is stated that Man cannot see God or he will die. He is all powerful.

      13. With the arrival of Jesus, God is no longer the focal point for the people to pray. God no longer wants them to contact him, now Jesus will have the duty of passing on the prayers to his father.

      Again, you are miss understanding the role of Jesus. People pray to all three (God, Father Son and Holy Spirit).

      14. The New Testament also adds the spirit. Because it becomes part of something now called the Trinity, it is the Holy Spirit. You can’t see the spirit, but it can fill you up. The Father, a son and a Holy Spirit, so how does Father and Son factor in to this Trinity? There are no female deities with this God. The Son played no part in the Old Testament.

      Jesus was there from the Beginning. In the beginning was the Word…

      15. The concept of the Trinity is not really known, even by the writers of the bibles.

      Perhaps, but that is the profound knowledge that comes from studying the scriptures.

      16. There is talk that the Trinity is God, and they are one together, and yet not separate.

      ??? What is your point or question?

      17. The bibles are not self authenticating, yet when people quote scripture they believe that are putting out undeniable proof of their position. In order for that to be true, the bibles would need to be authenticated. Unfortunately, only God, or the Trinity can do that, but they are silent. They have been silent for over two thousand years.

      The Bible is the Word of God. How else would you communicate to your flock? If you have a better idea, let’s hear it.

      18. The Old Testament includes Genesis, or simply the story of God creating the Heaven and the Earth, and the people.

      Yes, it is a version of the creation story. It does not have to be the only one. The Bible at that time was written to communicate to those people with those experiences. Like a children story, it was written so people of primitive times could comprehend.

      19. Even an elementary school child could write a more definitive account of the Earth and the Universe than is found in Genesis.

      What is your point?

      20. Genesis didn’t show any divine inspiration or knowledge that wasn’t known to man at the time of its writing.

      Not true. Genesis described the sequence of creation that was only know in recent times by scientists.

      21. The Old Testament was not written by one person, nor contemporaneously with the events described in it. It took fourteen hundred years before BC.

      That is true. And yet, it is surprisingly consistent. You try and create a version as good.

      22. During that time intelligent people of philosophy and science made remarkable discoveries. They even knew that the Earth was round.

      Yes, so what. It just proves men are clever.

      23. But what they didn’t know until 1523AD was that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

      That was the Church. They just assume the Earth being the center of the Universe. God never said it one way or another.

      24. Copernicus who was a cleric with the church at that time made this truth.

      Yes, he discovered the heliocentric solar system.

      25. The church even after his death, and even though they knew Copernicus was correct, still spoke badly of him

      Yes, they did the same to Galileo. It was the Church leaders who were miss guided. By the way, many smart scientists such as Newton and Einstein were all religious believers.

      ***

      Brad, I don’t claim to have all the answers. I’ve learned from reading many others who are a lot smarter and better writers than I.

      Here is a list to start:

      1. CS Lewis – Mere Christianity.

      2. William F. Buckley Jr. – Nearer My God.

      3. Gerald Schroeder – The Science of God.

      These writings will answer some of the questions you may have. Good luck.

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack

      You made it personal, read your comments, name calling and labeling are not valid responses to specifics comments.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Brad, how did I belittle you?

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack and DTMB

      Have continued to belittle me personally, great Christian ethics. The one thing that you both have not done is answer my comments. Let me know when you can even try to answer them.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Brad, DTMB may be right. It is useless to argue over beliefs that are so deeply rooted. I choose to engage you because I do think you are intelligent and open to suggestions. Here is one challenge, how would you design a world that is "perfect" in your opinion? The one caveat is whatever you come up with, would have to abide by the same physical laws.

      One example that I talk about in discussing AI and robots is the human body. Can you come up with a better model of the human being, one that is versatile and mobile and intelligent and self healing...? As advanced as our current science in AI, we have no competition by an order of magnitude.

      I look forward to your perfect design alternative.

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      Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 9 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

      Jack it is futile to waste your time answering Brad's questions. They have all been answered and more he hasn't even thought of. If he had the sincerity to research the answers for himself, and they are there but it requires study, as the Bible says, study to show yourself approved, he would not be asking such questions couched in ways that are not questions but his contrived statements.

      If he is not interested enough to simply study a little and discover the answers for himself of what use do you think traveling down his contrived primrose path will be to anyone?

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack

      I am sorry, I gave you a hubs worth of comment, and you have yet to answer it.

      You already know how I view the biblical God.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Brad, A good way to understand God, is to put yourself into his shoes. If you were God, and you have unlimited power, what would you do? How would you design the perfect human? What laws or rule would you impose so that all will be perfection?

      What would you do to gain respect and worship from your creations?

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Brad, I see you've been thinking a lot about this topic. Perhaps you can write a hub on it. It is hard to debate in a comment section.

      I will point you to some of my thoughts on this topic. I wrote a hubbook on it.

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Faith-And...

      Here is the quick answer as to why God just don't make himself appear and settle it once and for all? He did 2000 years ago and look at what they did, they crucified Him. For some people, no amount of proof is sufficient. They can always say its magic, or an illusion or a trick...

      Faith in God comes from within. A true believer does not require any proof. The proof is all around us. I make the case in some of my other hubs on the human brain and artificial intelligence.

      I see miracles happening all around me.

      The reason we are having a hard time is because of Free Will. God gave us free will but it comes with consequences. He cannot intervene willy nilly otherwise it makes the free will a joke.

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack

      The Biblical God of the Old Testament was an angry and vengeful God, who was so bad that Angels willingly left Heaven and God.

      The Biblical Jesus and Holy Spirit of the New Testament was the Loving and Caring but ineffective part of God.

      Also God no longer allowed any contact to himself directly, now all humans must go through Jesus and the Holy Spirit. This sort of confuses the Trinity concept.

      ***

      There is nothing PERFECT about the biblical God and his alleged creations.

      Angels aren't perfect

      The Earth isn't perfect

      Humans are not perfect

      The Garden of Eden had a big pest in it, so it wouldn't be perfect.

      God created Evil, how ridiculous is that for an accomplishment.

      The Solar System is not perfect

      The Universe is a death trap and not useful to us.

      Evil is more powerful than Good. No one has to be taught or reminded to be evil, but Good on the other hand has to be both taught and given reminders daily.

      **

      The Bible itself predicts the failure of the bulk of humans, how encouraging is that note.

      God has been credited by the bible as creating Good and EVIL.

      **

      There was no Jesus before the New Testament, and humans were around even by Biblical Reference for thousands of years. So Christianity was not the original concept. BTW, Christianity is being overtaken by Islam. The bulk of the world remains outside these two religions.

      **

      I maintain that the Bible(s) were created from the imagination and the desire to control people by very smart humans.

      At the time of their writing, Men and not women were the superior human, as most women were treated as chattel.

      There are no female deities, and having a God that is a Father, with a Son that has no Mother really is meaningless.

      Adam was created by God and Even was cloned from Adam by God. To have been equal Adam and Eve should have both been created in the same way. But to do so would not have been popular by the males who controlled the then world.

      **

      Science is more definitive and specific in its theories, laws, axioms, and postulates than the bible(s).

      So there is no real way to give more credibility to the information contained in the Bible(s)

      It has been 2012 years into AD, and God, nor Jesus, nor the Holy Spirit has made any real contact with the Earth or its humans.

      Contrast today with the contact mentioned in both of the bibles. We have more sightings of ET and UFOs than we have of physical sightings of God, or the Trinity.

      I don't rule out the possibility of a creator, but it is not the deities in the bible(s).

      I am not opposed to Religion Per Se, I think as a social gathering it can be powerful on its own even without the biblical God. It can be a great Humanitarian group to help other people, even if it focuses on a biblical God. It can generate the feeling of caring and well being among its members. It can give them a focus on something greater than themselves.

      It can accomplish this with or without the biblical God.

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack

      1. Bad Apples – The world is filled with bad people, and like bad apples they adversely affect the good apples.

      2. Good Apples – While good people have a better chance at turning around bad people, in the apple world there is no chance. In the people world, it is a very rare exception.

      3. When a God doesn’t show himself to his creation, how or why should people take it seriously?

      4. Add to that, even the bible written about him mentions his failures. Even the simplest thing like making a tablet that would last to hold the commandments.

      5. Why is there a need for two bibles?

      6. Isn’t it a failure of God to have to send his “son” Jesus to stop the people from disobeying him?

      7. The God of the Old Testament is much different than his son.

      8. That God that the Old Testament attributes to creating the heavens and the earth, and Adam and Eve is an angry, unforgiving and vengeful God.

      9. Why else would he make the Sin of Adam and Eve the sin of the billions of people that would come after them?

      10. Before God sent his son, he tried to put fear into the people so that they would follow him without question. Even the great flood and all the other acts that God used on the people were unsuccessful. So he sends Jesus to do public relations.

      11. Jesus inspires the writing of the second bible, now called the New Testament. There is very little connection between the two bibles, including God. God plays only a tiny supporting role.

      12. Still no one ever saw God in either of the bibles, they may have seen manifestations attributed to God but not God.

      13. With the arrival of Jesus, God is no longer the focal point for the people to pray. God no longer wants them to contact him, now Jesus will have the duty of passing on the prayers to his father.

      14. The New Testament also adds the spirit. Because it becomes part of something now called the Trinity, it is the Holy Spirit. You can’t see the spirit, but it can fill you up. The Father, a son and a Holy Spirit, so how does Father and Son factor in to this Trinity? There are no female deities with this God. The Son played no part in the Old Testament.

      15. The concept of the Trinity is not really known, even by the writers of the bibles.

      16. There is talk that the Trinity is God, and they are one together, and yet not separate.

      17. The bibles are not self authenticating, yet when people quote scripture they believe that are putting out undeniable proof of their position. In order for that to be true, the bibles would need to be authenticated. Unfortunately, only God, or the Trinity can do that, but they are silent. They have been silent for over two thousand years.

      18. The Old Testament includes Genesis, or simply the story of God creating the Heaven and the Earth, and the people.

      19. Even an elementary school child could write a more definitive account of the Earth and the Universe than is found in Genesis.

      20. Genesis didn’t show any divine inspiration or knowledge that wasn’t known to man at the time of its writing.

      21. The Old Testament was not written by one person, nor contemporaneously with the events described in it. It took fourteen hundred years before BC.

      22. During that time intelligent people of philosophy and science made remarkable discoveries. They even knew that the Earth was round.

      23. But what they didn’t know until 1523AD was that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

      24. Copernicus who was a cleric with the church at that time made this truth.

      25. The church even after his death, and even though they knew Copernicus was correct, still spoke badly of him

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack and DTMB

      God without religion is what?

      Genesis is useless, ambiguous and vague. It is so broad that it can capture anything you want it to, but it doesn't give answers. Again, they had no idea the Sun didn't revolve around the Earth. The creator would have known that.

      What is to be gained by reading, rereading, and reinterpreting the same words for 2000 years?

      First, the original bible was written in Hebrew without punctuation or spaces. How well do you think all those translations worked out.

      Second, One God, One Religion. It is not up to the people to make the rules, like the protestants did. They were made by humans to make their own rules. Episcopalians, The King wanted to divorce so he got rid of the Pope. Hardly a divine decision.

      Every preacher, priest etc makes their own interpretation of what the bible says, and how it should be interpreted.

      By the way, making this personal is not the same as making an intelligent argument or position. When people run out of valid arguments they resort to name calling and saying things that make it personal.

      I am giving you my well researched, and cogent arguments on why the biblical God is created by mere man. In return, I am receiving names and criticizing me rather than my arguments. Much like the democrats do to Trump.

      Instead you may want to try and address the detailed arguments from my previous comments.

      The bibles cannot self authenticate. Moses couldn't find the promised land with God guiding him, and you want me to put credence into his Genesis. Why does that make sense?

      Let me know when you have some valid arguments?

      Quotes from the bibles is not proof of anything.

      Just to prove how vague the bible is tell me how many angels exist.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

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      Jack, you are witnessing exactly what the Bible warns against. God's ways are not man's ways, Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.” And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”…

      Brads comments are exemplary of these facts and his own words demonstrate it in spades. He says he has read Genesisand according to his narrow mind it has no answers. You can read Calculus and will find no understanding of it without having studied mathematics and Calculus. If Brad stopped relying on his human wisdom and studied the gospel he would realize how ignorant he is of God and spiritual things. The Bible has his kind pegged before he ever existed and the fact that he doesn't look beyond his own understanding nails it.

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      You are confusing God with Religion. They are not one and the same. The questions you asked are answered by Schroeder. The part that the Bible got right is the order of the things that came into being, light, water, aquatic life, land animals and human... The 7 days of Creation. Time is also addressed by Schroeder. We know now about relativity courtsey of Einstein. A day in biblical time may be millennium...

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack

      I read and reread Genesis and it provided no real answers that didn't already exist.

      How come they didn't know that the Sun didn't revolve around the Earth, and it took 2000 years, when Copernicus figured it out scientifically. The Pope didn't like that, calling it blasphemous.

      What exactly do you think that they got right.

      The uncertainty still creates a limit to the age of the universe; it must be at least 11 billion years old. It can be older, but not younger.

      The age of the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old.

      Where is that in Genesis or the bible?

      Where was the dinosaur, or the Ice Age, or that the Moon was made from a body colliding with the Earth. Where is the info on the Axis of the Earth?

      How does a God fail to get Moses to the promised land after 40 years in a small desert?

      What exactly did they get correct?

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Brad, you touched upon many points here and it would take another hub to address them all. I would just say that the Bible, as written by numerous authors, over a span of decades, basically gets the creation story right as explained by Schroeder in his book the Science of God. The sequence of how things come about, or "created" is the same order. How do you explain that? How these early men, with little knowledge of science or instruments, were able to get the creation story correct? Without divine inspiration...interesting to think about.

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      bradmasterOCcal 9 months ago from Orange County California

      Jack

      Throughout recorded history Mankind has been evil. We have war after war. God, if it exists created Evil, and that Evil has not been contained.

      No one has to be taught how to be evil, but we all have to be taught and reminded to be good.

      You can't judge the world by looking at the US, although there is enough evil here as well.

      Genesis contains not a divine knowledge of the Earth and the Universe but only what mankind knew at the time of the writing. A writing that took hundreds of years by multiple authors. The writings were not written contemporaneous with the events they depicted.

      Genesis is ambiguous and vague, and has no real understanding of the world or the universe. As for your new Earthlike planet that is observed, neither Genesis nor the rest of the bible makes any mention of it.

      The bible was a failure as evidenced by the creation of a second bible. Like WW, it didn't have a multiple title. WWI, WWII, Old Testament, and the New Testament.

      The new Testament was also written by multiple authors and it was also not written contemporaneous with the events depicted. It was also written because of the failure of the Old Testament.

      My point is that both bibles were written by men with no divine inspiration. They are more like Fables, and many previous religions have had similar stories.

      No one has seen the biblical God, they only heard him.

      The list of these anomalies is long, but I am moving onto the subject of the hub.

      Thankful for ?

      1. A brain that is intelligent,

      but cannot be used to follow the biblical God. Obedience to an invisible God is loyalty, and it doesn't utilize the power of the brain. The brain is analytical and it should question and resolve all the mysteries around it. Yet, God wants obedience, not brilliance. A dog has a low IQ compared to man and it is well adapted to be the loyal servant of man. But, Man is the highest intelligent on Earth, so why should it be treated like a dog?

      2. Birth and procreation

      We have birth defects, that cover the multitude of infirmity of humans. Through no fault of their own babies die before birth, or shortly thereafter. If they are lucky enough to survive, they may have birth defects. You know all of them. The only thing that they all have in common according to the bible is the original sin. This sin was not theirs, but burden on them by God acting like an emotional hum for the "sin" from Adam and Eve. And after more than 100 billion humans, God still can't end it. God was a poor creator in that who puts a devil in paradise. Who doesn't protect their children, and give them lessons that will allow them to learn and protect themselves. Apparently God doesn't do it. The whole idea of a Tree of Knowledge is meaningless, and it was never used. The Cherub had total control over God's paradise.

      3. Diseases

      If you are lucky enough to be born defect, or patently defect free, the world attacks you with disease after disease. The most common disease today involves your own immune system attacking you. Insects and animals have better immune systems. The cockroach has survived even the Atom Bomb and been here for millions of years.

      4. The Environment

      The world is a dangerous place for humans. We have all sorts of natural disasters. Is this the kind of world you would design. It is ironic that these phenomenons are called Acts of God. This hardly satisfies the characteristics of a planned creation. It is Chaos, and chaos is the default in this world and universe.

      5. The Universe

      We can't use any of the solar system because it is uninhabitable by humans. A truly divine creator could have given us all we needed with just a Sun, and the Earth. Of course we need the Moon but that was a design defect, as was the necessity of having an accident create the shift in our axis. In fact, a creator could have just created the Earth alone, and made it work the same. The current design while interesting is not an optimal design.

      Our Solar System has an asteroid belt that is like random demolition derby. Look at the Moon and the planets including Earth and see the destruction it caused, and it is still a major threat to our existence today.

      Who would design such a chaotic and dangerous place? Certainly, not an all powerful God, the Creator?

      We can't even get men on the Moon today, much less Mars. And really what is the point of going to Mars? What we are looking to find there should have been in Genesis.

      The Moon on the other hand could be useful for the Earth.

      All across the Universe death and destruction is common. Black holes are like galaxy trash compactors. We have no use for the rest of the universe. We can't even communicate with our nearest galaxy 4.3 light years away. If we did find life on another planet, we couldn't get there.

      My point is that for us, the Universe is just lights in the sky. Maybe if the creator spent more time on our Earth we would have a better designed world.

      Don't judge God and his wonders from the US

      Judge the world as a whole, and all around the world their is War, Diseases, Famine, Water Shortage, or Flooding. The world is filled with poisonous creatures that can harm or kill us. Insects and vermin populate are structures, and they spread disease while not providing any benefits for us.

      We have had to adapt to the brutal climates around the world, but that is not design as much as it is necessity.

      Wildfire, Flooding, Water shortage, Food shortage and more abound around the world.

      Religion

      It is both ironic and tragic that Religion is the cause of many wars. Killing in the name of God, really how absurd is that. Also most religions have been created at the wants and desires of man, not God.

      We don't and never have followed the Ten Commandments.

      We don't even have the original 2 stones containing them. Also, you would think that tablets created by a God wouldn't be able to break.

      All of the things you mentioned are flawed, and many of them work against us.

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      Setank Setunk 9 months ago

      I like your list. My only issue is a relative certainty that only light can travel at the speed of light. At a million miles per hour it would take a ship around 2700 years to get there. Food for thought.

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      Anjali balkrishna 9 months ago

      This has given me a new info and know better how the creator has beautifully presented this before us!..

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      Jack Lee 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

      DTMB, I totally agree. I am convinced this was not by chance or accident... Thanks for stopping by.

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      Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 9 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

      I'm with you Jack, we have a lot to be thankful for! But to think it has anything to do with luck is only fooling yourself!

      "The announcement of a new found earth like planet four light years away got me thinking."

      There is NO other planet "like" earth. Anything you read in the media about discoveries and studies, science in general is tainted and spun by the media's anti God agenda. I have read many media reports about things like "discovering" other planets and the truth is if you read the actual accounting of the events of and by scientists involved it never resembles the conclusions the media leads you to believe about it.

      For example your comment, "a new found earth like planet" to begin with is a lie. No one has found an earth like planet. No human being can possibly know what is to be found 4 light years away, they cannot witness it nor experience it. All that science can do is observe and collect data from instruments that is then interpreted to have certain meanings based on multitude assumptions often based on scientific beliefs that change with new scientific discoveries. This sort of "science" is not fact. Time and time again this approach has resulted in false assumptions leading to false conclusions. It was once conjectured based on "scientific" evidence of the time (before the 1950's) that Venus could be inhabitable with a dense atmosphere of clouds. Not until we sent a probe there did we discover that Venus is a burning-desert world hidden under bitter clouds of sulfuric acid and carbon dioxide. The first time we acquired what appears to be conclusive evidence concerning Venus's un-inhabitability was in 1975 was when the Russians orbited and landed on Venus for the first time with their Venera 9 mission: Venera 9 measured clouds that were 30–40 km thick with bases at 30–35 km altitude. It also measured atmospheric chemicals including hydrochloric acid, hydrofluoric acid, bromine, and iodine. Other measurements included surface pressure of about 90 atmospheres (9 MPa), temperature of 485 °C, and surface light levels comparable to those at Earth mid-latitudes on a cloudy summer day. Venera 9 was the first probe to send back black and white television pictures from the Venusian surface showing shadows, no apparent dust in the air, and a variety of 30 to 40 cm rocks which were not eroded.

      We will never be able to witness first hand what "planets" exist 4 light years away, not in our lifetime, and the media knows this so they portray everything, that is actually unverifiable, as fact solely to divert humanity from believing in the one true God, the creator of the universe.

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