New Testament discussions
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About the New Testament
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Dear readers, in our last hub we have talked about the Bible and The Old Testament being the Hebrew history, as well as a religious book for them, in this hub will talk and discuss about the New Testament and other things as well.
As we all know, religions could be said to be very complex and sometime hard to understand, so, we need to discuss those religious issues, if we want to understand them properly, for this reason today we would like to discuss The New Testament, just to see what we think about some issues that happen there. We know that religious issues are very complex and they take a long time to sort out, for example here we are working to find a way out of some issues that seem to bother the world of religions today, the main issues that religions face today could or would be: to find a way how to survive the atheist attacks; how to stop pedophilia in the religious orders and how to stop extremists to use religions for their own violent acts, which if we think about it, it is really absurd the way that religions are being used from these extremists.
These issues when we think about it, they seem to have a link to the way religions have been formatted in the past, yes religions have been man-made mainly for the purposes of controlling the people, but at the same time we need to say that today they are not as good as they were supposed to be; of course, we accept that God and other spiritual entities may really exist, for this reason we should continue to believe in God and religions.
Anyhow, because we believe in God and religions, we have looked at many religious issues already and written many articles about it; in the last post we have also written about the Old Testament, which is the religious book that tells us how this religion was made from the very beginning; of course it all depends of how people understand the Bible, because, so many people see it in different ways, but that does not matter as it is still the most read religious book in the world. Anyhow, we are doing all this religious study in the hope of finding ways that would help religion survive better, the attacks of the atheists and the attacks that the extremist groups produce against religions today and other issues.
Because of the actions of these groups the rest of the religious community needs to start asking whether it is wise to continue to believe in religions just the way they are today, or we should look if there is a better way. So, let us look together with our religious friends where we stand today in religious matters; for this reason I have asked my friend Mark to say something about it, keeping in mind what we have already talked about in our last hub, I have asked Mark to comment on the New Testament, since we have already written about the Old Testament in our last hub, now we would like to see how Mark is going to explain the New Testament and the religions that exist today.
Book of the New Testament
Comments on the New Testament
Our fried Mark’s comment
Dear readers, my name in these religious writings is Mark and I believe that we have met already, as I have had some religious discussions with my friend Frank and other fiends before, and as far as I know Frank has already written in his posts what I personally have said before, so in a way you know me already.
I have to say that today I have been asked from my friend Frank to comment on the New Testament and the existing religions as I see them today, so that he can include my comments in his religious articles, as we all know, or seem to be aware of, every one of us sees religions in a slightly different way, I suppose that these religious differences also apply to me, since I have been asked to comment on religions, you see that is the reason why I have been asked to comment, it is just to see the way that I see religions today. Now that I have said that let me start my comment on religions.
Since I have been following Frank’s religious posts, I know what he wants me to comment about today. So let us start from Frank’s last hub, where there were descriptions and comments about the Old Testament and this is what Frank wants me to talk about. You see Frank wants me to talk about the reasons why we switched from the Old Testament to the New Testament and so on and also if the New Testament is going to last forever, so to speak. But I am going to say a bit more than just that, as I would like to start to talk about other religions as well, so let me see from where I can start.
If we try to look back in time, we will see that there were lots of religions that were practiced for a period of time, and then they were modified or abandoned for another religion, but religions have always existed, as far back as any human record can be found, therefore religions are necessary to humanity, if they were not necessary humanity would not have invented them or followed religions for so long.
Now don’t get me wrong just because I have said that religions were invented from us people; therefore you may start thinking that I might be an atheist. No, I am not an atheist but I believe that God exists and the spiritual world exists, even if we have to find it in another dimension; now this spiritual world might be somehow different form the way that most people believe it is today, but that is something that remains to be seen.
Perhaps I have taken you too far away from what my friend wants me to comment on, which is about the New Testament, how it was connected to the Old Testament and also how could it be connected to future religious beliefs, so let me start to connect every spiritual thing together, since I believe that everything in the world would be a link of the chain that goes around and connect everything together and this includes religions also.
For a start, all religions are so made that they try to give the people something back when they follow religions, most of them promises future benefits even if these benefits are to be found mostly after dead in the spiritual world, but people see these benefits as being important to them and follow religions, these is how religions are made and survive for as long as their follower see these benefits.
Now, since with the passing of time things slowly change, also the value of the benefit might change, perhaps not the afterlife benefit because nobody knows if they even exist, Since nobody can come back from the dead and tell us; but other benefit that are more down to earth may change, and for this reason one day the follower of religions might be looking for something else.
For this reason religions need to change to fit the needs of the people, what I have just said may sound a crazy thing to say, but the reality is that this is how it all happens, when we think about it. Now let us see why the change occurred from the Old Testament to the New Testament, as written in the Bible; anyhow this reason is not really explained anywhere, but if we read between the lines, there is something like the explanation below.
Explaining why the New Testament
To explain why the New Testament came about, we need to start talking about religions in a general way; so, when we look at religious history, the old religions gave way to other religions and so on; so, during one of those religious changes that occur from time to time; in the Old Testament Yahweh became the Hebraic God that the Hebrew people worshipped, this was achieved by Yahweh freeing the Israelites from the Egyptian Pharaoh who was keeping them as slaves, so it is said the Yahweh did many things to achieve that; but Yahweh was a very tough god to deal with, and there are good reasons for Yahweh God being so tough, it was because the Jews needed a tough God.
The reason why Yahweh was a very tough God to deal with, it was because the Israelites were also tough people to deal with; in other words, I believe that people get the god that they deserve according to their own behavior. Just think what the Hebrew were doing or wanted to do when Yahweh was leading them to the Promised Land. People in those times were very tough and even violent; therefore they needed a tough god and tough laws to guide them in the right direction that is the reason why the Old Testament was so violent, this type of religion lasted for a very long time, as it was needed until things would change for the better. Now to give a description of what happens next, let us say that when God saw that this was not the best way to lead his people as the people had become a little bit more tame, then God thought to bring about a new religious way, and this is when Our Lord Jesus Christ came down to earth to show us how to live peacefully on earth with this new religious way, which today is known as Christianity.
At this point of time I (Frank) come in and say to Mark to come to the point more quickly, as he is taking too long to come to the religious point that I have asked him to comment on, because also our other friends may want to say something about this religious issue.
The New Testament is about Christianity
Mark's comment, the New Testament is about Christianity.
Now just to come to the point more quickly as my friend Frank is urging me, I am going to say that today Christianity is the largest religion in the world, even if it has many denominations and some of them may be a bit different from one another, they all derive from the change of religions that our lord Jesus Christ brought with his coming on earth, and of course what he taught us in words and examples. Jesus was able to change the Ten Commandments without losing any of their meaning, by saying that we should love God our Father and should love our neighbors as ourselves. This is approximately what I believe he wanted to say, even if he used different ways or words.
Our Lord Jesus Christ also gave us the greatest prayer that the world has ever known, when he was asked how we should pray our Father in heaven, Jesus gave us 2000 years ago; The lord’s prayer, which is the prayer that we pray even today, starting with: Our Father who art in heaven; and so on. I hope you see what I mean.
As we all know the New Testament is about the life of Jesus Christ and his religious teachings, these new religious teachings of Jesus formed the New Testament, which has lasted for 2000 years or there about and we still use them today and perhaps we will be using them for many thousands of years in the future.
As we all know Jesus Christ teaching were followed by so many people that became a new religion, which we call today Christianity, which is nearly one third of the world population, if we group the different denominations together. Here I would like to point out that the teaching of Jesus Christ was all about love and humbleness, like you should love your Father God, and love your neighbor and don’t do anything to others that you would hate if anyone did it to you, or something like that, here we could add that Jesus Christ taught us also to be merciful. So Jesus Christ was a very loving person and taught only about love. So, the New Testament should be about love above all, and the Old Testament about fear you god, it should or would be abolished according to the ways that Our Lord Jesus Christ taught us.
Now as we have said above, our Lord Jesus Christ was a very loving person and taught more about love than anything else this was his personality, well at least this is what we usually understand when we read the four gospels of The New Testament, so, I believe that if we use the teaching of our lord Jesus Christ we would be on the right path and going in the right direction even today, in this very mixed up world of religions.
Now, let me point this out something odd that happens at the end of the Christian Bible, because I find that at the end of the Bible suddenly Jesus Christ personality seems completely changed, so, let us see what it is, and perhaps why there is this change.
The only way that we can describe this is that for us believers and this includes myself there is something strange written at the end of the Bible in The New Testament, which somehow seems out of place with the rest of Jesus Christ teachings, and this article is called Revelations where the end of the existing system is forecast; we are saying this because, we suddenly find the Lord Jesus Christ behaving somehow like Yahweh in the Old Testament, therefore we become suspicious whether it is really our Lord Jesus Christ that dictate Revelation. You see Revelation it is written in such a dramatic way that to me it seems that it has nothing to do with the New Testament and the way that our lord Jesus Christ was teaching us.
But at this point of time I believe that I have said enough, because I want also to leave something to say for our other religious friends. Perhaps Gino would like to take over from me and talk about Revelation, as I remember he had something to say about revelation before, so I am sure he is going tell us his own views here again.
But let me just say briefly something else, Christianity achieved two major things, one was that it split the old Jewish religion, one part of this religion is today Judaism, and they still uses most of the old Bible, in their religious book called the Torah, and the other one was that the pagan religion came to an end, after a few century, when Christianity took over under Emperor Constantine. That is all for now.
See you later: from, Mark
Now, since Gino happened to be there, I asked him if he wants to say something about the Bible Revelation and he agreed.
The imaginary Revelation beast with seven heads and horns
Our friend Gino speech
Hello my readers and listeners, here again I have been asked to say something about the Bible Revelation, as our friend Mark has pointed out that I may be willing to talk about it; okay I am willing but I will try to be as brief as possible as I was going to leave you, because I have some personal things to attend to presently, so if you want me to make a long speech you have to wait for another time.
Anyhow as we have said already something on this subject a while ago, I have to continue to say how I see this last chapter in the Bible called Revelation. My personal beliefs are that Revelation seems to be a separate article altogether from Jesus Christ teaching in New Testament, if we look at the way it has been written, revelation is just another very violent episode that the whole world is going to be subjected to, if and when it might happen, therefore it is as if we are going to go back to the Old Testament, where the fear of God was the main driving force, I am sure that it has been written for that intention in mind, in other words to control the people through fear. Of course there must be an explanation for it and this I may have to tell you another time, when I am able to make up my mind what it could mean.
Today the only other thing that I really want to point out is that the intention of Jesus Christ and the New Testament is all about wanting to guide the believers through love and understanding and not through fear, therefore the book of Revelation seems to be out of place at the end of the New Testament. I hope you see what I mean.
See you later; Gino.
My comment and conclusion
Having seen what Mark has said about our Lord Jesus Christ, who taught love and humbleness and also what Gino has said, which more or less agrees with Mark; we cannot avoid to become suspicious of the reasons why Revelation has been written like that, because it seems to me that when we add everything together it does not seem to add up the way it should; therefore we should search for the reason why and then explain it; for this reason we may have to believe that today religions or religious meanings may need to be modified, now when we talk about modifying religious meanings, we are talking about what is hidden behind those meanings that seems right at first sight, and the reasons why they are like that. Perhaps here I may suggest that Revelation might have been written like that just because there was no other way to keep the Christian people together in those troubled times?
Anyhow we might have to assume that because of all these religious problems, if we want some sort of present religious order to survive, we may have to modify them, and if modifying religions as they are today is not going to be enough, then religions need to be changed in such a way that they have to survive, because as we all know man needs God and therefore religions, it has been so since the beginning of the world.
Therefore, let us try if we may to change religion, or at least suggest that religions need to be changed, as much as they need to be changed for them to survive. Of course at this point of time all we know is that religions may need a new method or new theory made in such a way that it could work and be as close as possible to today way of living, so that people may think that religions can still be followed without an extra effort.
Therefore we would like to suggest that a modern religious way needs to be brought about with a modern method or theory, which has got to take in all particulars of each and every religion that exist today, once we have done that we have to try to fit all the pieces together, as we do with a jigsaw puzzle. In other words we have to try to find the way of how life and religions complement each other and there is no difference if one belongs to another religious group; and from this knowledge try to show religious people that they could all be together, they could stay together because the life energies of the universe and the spiritual energies of the universe are together and we are all connected to them, and also that life and spiritual things form a never ending life cycle of the universe, this is what we are going to put forward in our last and third part of our religious writings that we would like to call, Reconciliation of the universe.
Now, if we are able to do that, then with this new theory it might become possible to explain how everything including spiritual things may indeed exist in the universe and how religions could co-exist together in the future and serve humanity, as it has done in the past, I know that this may not be easy, but we have to try, it is the only way to find out. You see, we believe that religions need to continue.
I think we have said enough in this article, so see you in our next article, Religions need to continue.
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