Religious discussions four
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Dear readers, this article is the continuation of religious discussions three, we are continuing to discuss religious issues, which are endless. You see, when we discuss religious issues, because religions are complex, we can go on forever arguing about what is right and what is wrong: which religion is good and which one is not; what beliefs can be true and what cannot be true, and above all, does God really exist, or is God an invention of the human mind? These questions about religions have been there for ages. So, they will continue in the future if we don’t find a better explanation. In fact, in the future it will become more urgent to find an answer to these religious questions.
It is going to be so, because now that the people can learn faster than they used to learn before, because the computer makes it easy to find any information we want; so, what is going to happen to religions when the people realize that there are so many religions in the world, beside their own religious beliefs, we don’t know.
Is it possible that the people will ignore this newfound knowledge and continue to believe in religions the way that they have believed for thousands of years?
Or the people will see all these existing religions, and so, they will start to believe that religions are manmade, this will happen because I believe myself that religions could be man-made; anyhow, this subject we are going to discuss in our next article.
Now having come so far writing articles about religions, I believe that I have to continue to write them, in the hope that with the help of my friends and perhaps God, I can suggest a way that will explain religions in a modern way, that is if I can find it and then publish it here.
With this decision in mind, I am going to talk to our religious friends, I must explain to them that I want to find out more about religions, and they can help me achieve my goal, in the hope that I can see, how religions can become in the future.
Now that I have explained to our readers what is on my mind, all I must do is to meet with our religious friends and continue discussing these religious issues, hoping that we can find answers to our questions.
Calling on our religious friend
Calling on my friend Mark
A few days after the meeting that I have talked about in the last two articles, I was thinking to invite my friends again, but this involved to tell them what I wanted to do, or find another excuse to invite them, but in the end I decided to visit first my serious and trusted friend Mark; I wanted to talk to him one to one instead of talking with my other friends.
So, one day I went to see Mark at his home, knowing that this was his day off from work, when I arrived at his home there was this other friend with him, but anyhow it was John the bloke that read the end of the Bible in one of our previous articles; The end of time discussions, therefore, the presence of John did not worry me, since John is a religious bloke and religions is what I wanted to talk about. The reason that John was there is that he lives up the street and he was going to the shops past Mark house, he saw that Marl was there and decided to stop and chat with Mark.
So, when I arrived John was about to leave, but my arrival stopped him, as Mark invited me and him back inside to have a cup of tea or drink something.
Anyhow, we set down and we started to talk, and soon I was talking about a chance meeting that I had with Gino and Peter the previous day and the religious talk that I had with them, so, I told Mark and John in detail what we said.
Gino and Peter believe that man cannot be created from plain dirt, because even God must be subject to the laws of physic or natural laws, and anyhow, if there is a God, then this God will use first of all the natural laws to create anything.
And then they came up with this theory, the Hebrews wanted their God more powerful than any other God in the world, so, they invented a god so powerful that can create a man from dirt.
Now, I have come here to have a friendly talk, and to talk about this Gino and Peter theory. Do you think that it is possible what they have said?
Now if you believe that is possible, then for the first time we have explained what is written in the Bible in a different way. So, from now on, we must look if we can find other religious writings in the Bible that can be explained in a different way, and the reason why they have been written the way they have been written.
Now I want to know what you think about Gino and Peter theory, and what do you think we can do, to find out how these present religious problems can be solved. I believe that you know that I am keen to write this new religious theory that can suggest to the world a new way of seeing God and religious issues, at the same time I know that what I am going to write has got to be a simple religious theory, because it is easier to write it, and it is easier for the people to accept it.
The ancient religious Bible
John reaction to their theory
John reaction to Gino and Peter theory
Dear reader, I didn’t want to involve John in these religious talks, but he was there, so, it would have been rude to get rid of him, and now we must hear what he wants to say. He is impatient and he wants to say what he thinks about Gino and Peter theory, so, let hear him.
I wonder what has gone wrong with Gino and Peter; I don’t know why they are turning atheist or what these days. I am saying that they are turning atheist because that is the only way that I can explain what they have said about the Bible and the creation of man.
Why are they saying that God cannot create man from dirt, when the Bible says that he did? Why they try to find all these excuses to change the meanings of the Bible, when the Bible has been written thousands of years ago from people inspired from God and people believe that it is so?
Why should the Jews invent their own God, as if God needs to be invented? They should be ashamed of themselves for saying so many profane things about God and the Bible.
I believe that they are being brainwashed from the atheists, otherwise they would not say this. What gave John and Gino this idea that the Jews invented their own God? And then, to show that their God was a super God they made God create man from dirt, when the Bible says that God made man as his own imagine? What has gone wrong with them to turn to atheism.
Here John started to calm down as he had said what he wanted to say about Gino and Peter, so, we knew that soon everything would be normal, and we could have normal discussions. And hear what our friend Mark had to say.
The Indian god Brahma creator of the world and people
Discussions with Mark and John
After John had said what he wanted to say, Mark started talking and said;
I believe that you have had a real interesting discussion with Gino and Peter about this creation of mankind in the Bible; but I cannot help thinking that Gino specially when he is with Peter, Gino can tell you some extreme views, therefore, to say that Gino is becoming an atheist is wrong, because I know Gino very well and I can tell you that he likes to exaggerate things, I am telling this specially for you John, because you are worried about this religious situation that Gino has got into; do not worry about it my friend, because everything is going to be normal.
John said; okay Mark I can see what you mean; but I believe what I believe and I am not going to hold it back, therefore, when I believe that I have to speak out, I will speak out and this is just what I did, okay. Anyhow, let us hear what you think yourself about what they said.
You see, Gino and Peter have sometimes extreme views, but when reflecting what they have said this time and other things, it is not that extreme, when we use our logic reasoning mind.
So, let us reflect on this situation by using our own intelligence and imagination; first of all, there have been always extreme beliefs and views in religious circles, if we look back at history we will find that religions have helped mankind in many ways, especially because it brings friendship to people, you see, although religions are made to follow a god with a set of rules, those people that follow them are bound to discuss these things together, and by discussing and sharing them with other people they become friends, this is one of the best sides of religions.
But then on the other side, there are times, when religions have done things so extreme and terrible; to do these extreme things religions has to have something within that is extreme, otherwise these things do not happen.
You see, you cannot control people just by being nice to them; people need rules to follow and somebody or something that enforces those rules and that is the reason why religions have been written the way they have been written.
I am sorry to say this John, but what is written in religious books is not always the whole truth. Therefore, if Gino and Peter have gone out of the way of the beliefs that everybody accept, just because we have been told that that is the truth; then Gino and Peter may have got it right this time, just because what they are saying is just as extreme as the creation of mankind in the Bible, if we use our own logic reasoning mind.
We have to keep in mind that there are other major religions that explain the creation of man in different ways; here I am talking about the Indus religions and I quote;
“Hinduism perceives the whole creation and its cosmic activity as the work of three fundamental forces symbolized by three gods, which constitutes the Hindu Trinity or ‘Trimurti’: Brahma - the creator, Vishnu - the sustainer, and Shiva - the destroyer.” End of quote. It is said that mankind sprang from Brahma body and there were four caste, or type of men. As you can see this is different from the Bible creation.
For these reasons, I can say well done Gino and Peter, since you have opened a new way on how to challenge those things in the Bible that don’t make sense.
What do you think about all what I have said, Frank and John?
Here Mark stopped talking about religion, and then started talking about other things.
Now, reflecting on what has been said above, I believe that Mark is right. So, I need to meet with our religious friends in the future, to discuss, how we can review what is written in the Bible. You see, I need my friends to back me up. This is one of the reasons why, I like to talk to my friends just to feel more confident.
I believe that I have said enough in this article, so, see you next time, where we are writing about, religions could be manmade.
May God bless us all.
Religious links to blogs and sites
- Prayers of Reconciliation
Prayers of Reconciliation, I come to you praying Father Most High and eternal life giver of every living thing, I am praying thee for forgiveness of my sins and reconciliation.. People prayers to God.
- Nature of the Universe and earth 64
Theory of how God spiritual world could be. Personal imaginary theory about how to reconcile all religions
- Religions are man made 44
There are many religions in the world. Which religion could be the true religion, if there is one that can claim that? There are reasons to believe that religions are man-made. Religious discussions about where religions may come from.
- Man needs God
Another religious blog including religious pages
- Religious Reconciliation Doc
Religious blog about reconciliation
- Prayers of Reconciliation
This is a religious site opened to house most of my religious discussions, it includes a list of attached files like in book format, which give the readers a better chance to read the whole story.
- God in the universe
This site has been opened to keep my religious writings of Prayers of Reconciliation, Reconciliation of the Universe and God of the Universe, text and sketch.
- Major Religions Ranked by Size
This is a listing of the major religions of the world, ranked by number of adherents.