Explain away this NDE - Proof of Atheism

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  1. Mark Knowles profile image60
    Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago

    I will be interested to see the reaction of our religious members to this breaking news.

    http://thaumaturgical.com/christian-wom … after-nde/

    A devout Christian woman turns atheist after spending 30 days in a coma. “I was promised butterflies and big pink fluffy clouds by my neuroscientists,” says the woman, “All  the scientists and doctors I  had spoken to in the past guaranteed that I would experience heaven if I went into a deep enough coma.  Turns out they were lying. I may sue.”

    The woman says:

    "As a righteous Christian, I was assured that the stories of heaven were true. I had spoken to numerous neurosurgeons and neuroscientists, and they assured me that the deep coma would produce all the  scientific proof I needed  to continue believing. I researched all the possible ways of inducing a coma, and finally settled on bacterial meningitis is a likely way to produce the necessary experience. It took me some time to find a suitable way of catching this rare disease, but eventually I found poor family in Mexico willing to give me a blood transfusion from their eldest son who was suffering from the disease. As a good Christian, I was able to pay for the boys recuperation and eventual recovery. I was injected with 50 cc of his blood and immediately flown to a hospital in San Diego, where I languished in a coma for 30 days."

    Comments?

    1. pisean282311 profile image60
      pisean282311posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      @mark arent u same guy who wrote gospel some 1900 yrs ago?...coming to suing , i doubt one can sue anyone for believing in fanatsy...tomorrow i go in coma by jumping from high rise building believing that christ would save me....now it is my fault or long dead christ?

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I see you were unable to cope with the proof. big_smile

        1. pisean282311 profile image60
          pisean282311posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          @mark lol

    2. W Vidal profile image57
      W Vidalposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Christian Woman Turns Atheist After NDE
      Blog entry by- 'The Righteous Atheist' | Oct 11, 2012 | 0 comments

      Well, that blog entry has been created today. It belongs to a website called "thaumaturgical.com" which is controlled by five profiles, which are-  Mark Knowles, The Religious Atheist, Mark Ewbie, Daily Tampon and BT Evilpants.

      Here is the profile of Mark Knowles, on that crap website- http://thaumaturgical.com/author/mark-knowles/

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        So - you deny the proof?

        1. pisean282311 profile image60
          pisean282311posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          what more proof u need mark....u r ex christian who turned atheist because jesus didnt choose to reply to u...u r not scientist turned christian that i can believe u...i strongly feel u r the mark who wrote gospel some 1900 years ago....

        2. W Vidal profile image57
          W Vidalposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Nope. I trust that blog entry. The reputation of that host website (thaumaturgical.com) is beyond doubt. I guess they even beat online mags like 'Science' or 'Nature', when it comes to the reliability of facts that they share.

          And, added to that, the people who run that website are all sweet, reliable people. Who on earth can doubt the integrity of their characters? Plus, they are all professional scientists themselves. Just look at their curriculum vitae.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I would certainly put it up against the Daily Mail for accuracy.

            1. pisean282311 profile image60
              pisean282311posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              lol

          2. B.T. Evilpants profile image61
            B.T. Evilpantsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I'm actually more of an amateur scientist, but I appreciate the sentiment! As far as thaumaturgical being a "crap website," I didn't see a single article about crap on there.

      2. twosheds1 profile image60
        twosheds1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        It was obviously satire, Einstein.

        1. W Vidal profile image57
          W Vidalposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          The satire, in this case, is that the satirist is trying to find a mirror to recognize himself.

    3. Titen-Sxull profile image85
      Titen-Sxullposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Something seems funny about this, and by funny I mean suspicious. Who would attempt to voluntarily induce a coma in order to disprove the afterlife? This doesn't make any damn sense whatsoever.

      This just seems like a reversed attempt at the same story we've heard a thousand times from the theist side, you know the story where the atheist has a NDE and suddenly converts. The problem is that the story isn't going to convince anyone in reverse.

      You can pull the beard off a fake Santa but the child who is a true believer won't accept that, same goes for believers in God... because they already believe and that has a lot more to do with emotions and conviction in the FACE of evidence than it does with positive evidence.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        You sure you don't mean funny as in "Ironic."?

        Crikey - I can see needing to 'splain it to the theists, but the atheists.........

        Just got up? big_smile

        1. Titen-Sxull profile image85
          Titen-Sxullposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Just got off work actually. It's not really ironic, because the story is a manufactured one, it never happened. It would be ironic if the story was actually true.

          This story reminds me of watching a movie in Bible Class, way back when, I was forced to go in with the other teenagers, we watched a movie called Escape from Hell. In this movie a scientist/doctor induces cardiac arrest to study Near Death Experiences and ends up descending to Hell. One of those fun "scare tactic" movies the youth group leaders would play when they were too lazy to drum up a sermon.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Well - if I was a believer and I read that story about the scientist who had bacterial meningitis and then went to heaven for a week - I would want some of that.

            Wouldn't you?

            1. W Vidal profile image57
              W Vidalposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              What would be really interesting is, when it happened, and that doctor could not convince others that it happened. He had no camera or other device, to document that reality, to provide us evidence.

              We would miss the opportunity, to know a truth which could change our life forever.

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                jomineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                That is why one should always take a camera while in coma, who knows where all might we go! I heard they have camera's for the sole, er soul.

              2. W Vidal profile image57
                W Vidalposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Well, that knowledge is comparable to the knowledge of where men go after death. Some people, with a rich vocabulary, call that place soul. Instructive.

            2. A Troubled Man profile image60
              A Troubled Manposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              It's funny how so many here missed the point of your OP. Good one! lol

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Yup - funny like bacterial meningitis is funny. wink

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                Emile Rposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                I would think the primary point is that Mr. Knowles has too much time on his hands.

                1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                  A Troubled Manposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Ah, and you felt compelled to jump right in an toss an ad hominem at Mark?

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                    Emile Rposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    I obviously felt compelled to 'jump right in' as you put it. The rest of your assumption is open to conjecture.

          2. pisean282311 profile image60
            pisean282311posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            scientist r doomed to go to hell...they challenge authority of god and try to question god...

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            Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Think parody, Titen  smile

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          Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I am so glad you posted it here.  Couldn't comment on the actual blog.  This is some funny stuff. smile

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      Emile Rposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Why convert to atheism when there is money to be made? Sounds like a classic reason for a malpractice suit to me.

  2. stclairjack profile image82
    stclairjackposted 6 years ago

    that qualifies as a 7.5 on my wierd-shit-o-meter,... prety good for this early on a thursday mornin,..... jeeze people are stupid..... i mean really,.... i like christianity, a whole lot,... christians, indiviualy, i have real problems with at times!

 
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